The retcon wasn't as major as i thought it'd be, which makes me glad tbh - even tho Rell is connected to the Blackrose and that one school (we'll most likely follow Annies perspective if they ever choose to animate this 'school'). But, yea, I'm sure Rell will still have her Metallic powers, and it'll be interesting to see how it's implemented in the book (Mages a welcomed in Noxus afterall).
Knew from the title it was gonna be Rell. In the middle of S2 when all the black rose stuff started going down I couldn't help but wonder where the hell Rell fit in all of this, being someone who is also hell bent on fighting the black rose. The mystery of Mel's parentage and Rell having a mysterious militant mother figure had me questioning the current canon and wondering if they weren't going to retcon Rell as being a secret Medarda or half sibling or something, but I like the "adopted daughter Ambessa wish she had" angle more.
Rell is a kid that was forced by the Black Rose and the big heads in Noxus to become the weapon that she is now. She HATES people like Ambessa, and now she is the adopted daughter of a warlord that was part of the system in Noxus that she hates.... 😐
It is Riven because they showed us that Ambessa and her warrior Rictus used exactly the same black metal green runes as Riven's blade to block magic. That's how Riven gets the same anti-magic green shield in league as Ambessa did in Arcane.
@@dimi2805 Those metal runes are the "Kaenic Rookern" item in League that are actually tied to Ambessa, not Riven. They look similar but are not the same thing.
Tbf, they did a fairly bad job with her on the "living weapon against Mordekaiser" front. Homegirl should have been a top laner instead of a support nobody plays.
In shambles, LoL’s lore lies torn apart, A tapestry of tales, now fractured at the heart. Each retcon a dagger, piercing the old, Whispers of yore now drowned by the bold. Hextechs, once proud, now cast aside, Their gears ground to dust, their spark extinguished, In this world of chaos, where balance falters, A game of endless edits, where nothing lasts. Toxicity in each thread, a tangled maze, Players lost in the fog, with no clear phase. Fractured symmetry, a broken mirror’s glance, Where every patch brings more confusion and less chance. A world once vibrant, now shadowed and gray, Where lore is redefined every day.
Maybe the retcon is that, instead of Rell breaking out of whatever Black Rose facility she was in, it's actually Ambessa who broke her and other "experiments" out. That would add further fuel to the Ambessa vs. BlackRose conflict and it might also be tied to Mel's father. After all, he's also supposed to be a powerful mage and Ambessa's involvement with him ticked the Black Rose off. So he might have already been their enemy and Ambessa freed Rell because he asked her to do it OR he too was a sort of experiment for the Black Rose and Ambessa freed him because she wanted his power, and now repeats that with Rell, hoping to gather more support to take on the Black Rose. That would also keep, what I think is, the emotional core of Rell's story intact, which is ultimately that she's very pissed at the Black Rose and her parents I think for having kept her imprisoned.
It is Riven because they showed us that Ambessa and her warrior Rictus used exactly the same black metal green runes as Riven's blade to block magic. That's how Riven gets the same anti-magic green shield in league as Ambessa did in Arcane.
@@dimi2805 I think that's a weak link. After all, these runes are not unique to Riven. Sure, her sword uses them but she didn't make the sword nor invent the runes. That all comes from the Black Rose, so the fact that Ambessa, or to be more precise Rictus, uses them too is more suggestive of their shared past with the Black Rose, rather than their shared past with Riven.
@ But the runes that Riven uses come from her sword. And that big Rune Sword was given to Riven by the Black Rose. Riven herself doesn't know any runes or where the sword comes from. So the runes also link back to the Black Rose, not to Riven.
It is Riven because they showed us that Ambessa and her warrior Rictus used exactly the same black metal green runes as Riven's blade to block magic. That's how Riven gets the same anti-magic green shield in league as Ambessa did in Arcane.
As a certified Rell enjoyer I'm excited for this, especially if the main aspects of her story will be preserved. It's about time she got more attention in the lore, especially with the second part of Noxus season apparently focusing on Mordekaiser. I'm hyped for this.
i love learning about a fictional universe that seems interesting to me especially when every single thing i learned for 10 years means nothing cause its all getting changed at an alarming pace for the sake of making greedy people more money
Yeah same, I don't even know if I should bother with this new timeline, when in 10 years it'll get another retcon. They should never have stayed with the precident, that no lore is sacred (except when it makes tons of money)
@ Riot didn't properly advertise the previous lore and deemed the writing team as an unnesecary expense. For example during the Ruination event, they weren't allowed to lead the event, the skin team did and the writers needed to scramble for a story. Thus many important characters to that story were pushed to the side, like Yorik. Arcane was also first intended to be a seperate universe so that the writers had full creative freedom. But then Arcane was succesful and made them more money than any stuff of the universe. So they discarded anything on there and just said lets make Arcane canon, and now anything on the universepage is questionably canon. They had 2 universes, the Game one and the Arcane one, instead of continuing both, like Marvel, they did cost reduction and said we will make Arcane canon and betrayed alot of old lore fans.
@@Joi2212 The Sentinels of Light event was sooo sad, I remember at one point even Senna complained that they were doing nothing but running around recruiting random people. It really felt like a writer venting after having to put so many random champions in this story.
Really weird how they are ''aging up'' the characters when compared to the previous canon. Rell is a teenager/young adult in ''current'' Noxus (the one pre-Arcane retcon), she was a little kid during the invasion of Ionia, if they make her a teen BEFORE the invasion and Swain's coup that would completely change her opinion about him (as she hates him for knowing about what the Black Rose is doing and not acting upon it, which wouldn't happen now) and place her solely against the Black Rose and nothing else (considering she's a bit of an anarchist, that changes a lot) The same with Riven (if the spoilers about being Rell are fake), she was in her early 20s during the invasion, that change would put her into her 30s *after* being brought back to Noxus leading to Awaken and the events of Ruination with this altered timeline (or even older, considering ''young women'' described her could mean she was in her early 20s *before* the invasion) If they're really changing the invasion of Ionia from a background important event into THE actual plot of what we're gonna see in future series, then yeah the retcon is all-encompassing, cuz most of the Ionia characters AND Noxus characters had that as the background of their stories (Irelia would be in her early teens, Shen and Zed teenagers) Edit: can't help but just not believe what Christian Linke said about ''oh no it was planned for Arcane to be canon from the beginning!'' thing with this Rell retcon lol
Don't forget about Xin, who's also tied to Demacia. Like, with all those retcons they have to literally rewrite the ENTIRE lore. This was a stupid idea from the very beginning.
@ Forgot about him lmao. He was already kind of in Limbo considering him getting in Demacia was through a Jarvan III raid on Noxus fucking Capital, which is VERY BIG EVENT to basically never be mentioned anywhere besides his own Bio, but now he's even more in Limbo
I mean with Riven being a gladiator in her current lore for a bit, and the fact that she is the only one who we actively see use rune weapons, the only other ones being Ambessa and Rictus in Arcane. I feel like there's a good chance that the retcon has to do with the runic weapons since we really haven't seen them anywhere else as Ambessa in league still doesn't use runic anything but y'know.
Yeah I feel Riven is way more likely than Rell? Especially since Riven's initial storyline had to do with Singed being in Noxus, and I don't get the impression they're going to pursuing that storyline, they only hinted at it before pivoting to him 'winning' - so they'll likely need to do something else with her.
It does make me a bit sad that Rell is getting her story rewritten. It was compelling to see how (from my understanding) she grew up thinking her and her friends at school were just training, and the slow horror of realizing they are all missing and she is getting more powerful, and then finding out it was LB sacrificing the other kids to make Rell more powerful (assumingly to combat Mordekaiser one day). Rell realized all of these kids, her friends, are dead in the name of power and Noxus, so in a fit of rage she completely destroys the academy. Her bio didn't really tie in with other characters so I could see why Riot would want to try and re-write her into Ambessa's story, and I think it could be cool, but just like with Ekko's old lore, it will always hold a special place in my heart.
0:40 I genuinely disagree with that. I don't think that most retcons were negative. The retcon of the Darkin made them way more in tune with the setting as a whole. The retcon of Volibear's story was also really good at improving his lore and the lore of the Freljord as a whole. I feel like there have been some really good retcons and some really important ones for the setting to prosper.
Nah the first Varus retcon was booty the demacian one is meh, the removal of "Captain" Teemo cause it was a title that made allusion to war ranks and Yordles don't go that way. Like dang man, I didn't know the captain of the soccer team or the captain of the fishing boat was a warlord. I could go on for a while but that's just some I can think of rn.
Necrit learning more japanese media(anime/manga) jargon is funny to see, second only to the missing free hextech chest, which will surely come back... right ?
I can't believe Necrit spent several decades of his life on the Internet and about a third of that time in lore and fandom and managed to dodge the term "yuri". 😂
Wait...what if...Rell was actually the creator of the chests? The black Rose using her power to create them and just "branding" them hextech to make profit in Runeterra? That would explain why the retcon arrived after taking hextech chest from us
@@BrolysShadow_ Black rose are the ones that made both runes, riven sword rebuild itself and does some cool stuff cuz of them, and Rookern absorb magic cuz of them too.
It is Riven because they showed us that Ambessa and her warrior Rictus used exactly the same black metal green runes as Riven's blade to block magic. That's how Riven gets the same anti-magic green shield in league as Ambessa did in Arcane.
I have always been excited for League of Legends news and videos! But ever since they removed the Hextec Chests I am even more excited. Because I can't wait to tell them TO BRING THEM THE FK BACK !
I don't see how Rell being into girls is a retcon? I'm pretty sure right on the release of Rell it was pretty much confirmed she was bi? *Not to mention she quite literally has interaction lines for both strong men and strong female champions of her being a complete bi mess towards them*
She literally has 2 lines to Leona one of them is calling her hot and when she kills Leona she literally asks if she still has a chance so i dont know why ppl are surprised about this
Her being Bi is not the retcon that he was talking about but the backstory of Ambessas protege. Focus for once on stuff thats not LGBTQ and you would see the obvious stuf infront of you.
@@zema9401 i dont like her new lore at all beacuse it literally sounds like a fanfic made by someone that has only watch arcane and heard shit theories on twitter
Ambessa and Rell are a fascinating master/student pairing. While I think working under a very harsh and practical Ambessa could help seed in Riven's disillusionment with Noxus, it could also serve as a solid substitute fuel for Rell's one-woman crusade. Wonder if Rell's gonna form a relationship with Mel, Elora, or some new character. Would be neat if it was Cass before she departs for Shurima, but I doubt it.
Riven has an Ironclad piece of lore. She is a fan favourite (saddly, personally I dont like her) so there is no way in hell she is the one to get retconned. On the other hand Rell's story is shallow, with very little development. Frankly as a lore enjoyer I found her story pretty meh, even though I enjoy the champions gameplay.
It is Riven because they showed us that Ambessa and her warrior Rictus used exactly the same black metal green runes as Riven's blade to block magic. That's how Riven gets the same anti-magic green shield in league as Ambessa did in Arcane.
I went from having read all the journals of justice and champion bios to having no idea what the hell is going on or if something is canon at any time.
I mean here I am, but I'm pretty sure no one would actually care sadly, but this new story for Rell is just out of character. Rewriting Rell, a character that hates big heads in Noxus and wants to turn it all down along with the Black rose, as now an "adoptive daughter" of one of the most Noxus like characters AND a big head in there is just... Sad, she would hate someone like Ambessa what you mean she is now looking up and learning from her????
I quite literally thought this up after I watched Arcane S2 finale before the welcome to Noxus cinematic was released. Theory time: My thoughts are that this is a younger Darius, years before the establishment of the Trifarix. Maybe right before he has become the Hand? He will get a new runic magic axe, a big beefy one like the one in 2XKO! I also think that the Silken Dance isn't a one time game event, but rather a Black Rose tradition used to conduct sensitive business and scout new possible members. If it happens say every 5 years or so, then It is possible that all the champs who have skins, do eventually attend a Silken Dance, just maybe not the one in this cinematic. I think Arcane happens much earlier on the timeline than most fans think and that the next show should pick up with Mel and her return to Noxus as matriarch of the Mardardas. Boram Darkwill should still be ruling Noxus, and this should be before the the 1st invasion of Ionia. I think that the item LeBlanc tricks Darkwill into looking for in Ionia is a Darkin weapon and that is what starts the 1st invasion. We know because of Legends of Runeterra that there are Darkin weapons in Ionia, and they do technically let you live forever if your bound to them, so..... The raven at the end of Arcane probably was just Raum, not Swain yet. Singed being a wanted man in Piltover-Zaun has also fled to Noxus, where he will be recruited by their military to make weapons. The main storyline should be the things happening in Noxus before and during the Ionian invasion, Darkwill's fall, and the rise of the Trifarix. I want this to be about 4 seasons. I think Rell should be introduced as Mel's secret twin! Ambessa should have been the person running the Black Rose's mage School/weapons project. It was a deal she made with LeBlanc in order to add mages into her bloodline. According to the deal, she was to give all arcane gifted children to the Black Rose for training, but she hid Mel's power instead and sent her to Piltover partially for that reason. When she told Mel about having to sacrifice one child for another, maybe she wasn't just talking about Kino. Mel and Rell, I think that would be interesting. We might get a few scenes of the war because the latter half of this show, Seasons 3 & 4, take place during the Ionian invasion, but it shouldn't really focus on that. The main plot should focus inside the political machinations of NoxusI I would have the next show after Noxus, be in Demacia. It would be 5 seasons. S1 would start about a year or so before the Noxus show ends. It would set up characters like Lux, Garen, Jarvan IV, Sylas, Poppy and Fiora, as well as have major flashbacks to Targon with the story of Pantheon, Kayle, and Morgana. S2-S4 would address the system of the mageseekers, continue progression of the Kayle/Morgana story, give side stories for Shyvana and Fiddlesticks and show the creation of Galio. S5 would have the full outing of Lux as a mage and the full Mage Rebellion. In the very last episode Jinx would show up to help Demacia rebuild and restructure their society and start to build a life long friendship with Lux. This canonically should start around the same time as the last year of Arcane's story, Outside of flashbacks, this should be about a 5 year story. Sometime after the Noxus show ends, but before the Demacia show does, a theatrical movie release should happen. It should be a story about Jinx in a Bilgewater adventure. That is where she headed after leaving Piltover-Zaun. After a high speed, adrenaline pumping, gun blazing pirate adventure with Miss Fortune, and being tested by Illoai, she should head to Demacia. The events of the movie should happen at the same time as Miss Fortune taking down Gangplank and replacing him as leader of Bilgewater. Her and Jinx can start off at each others throats, and then combine forces to beat Gangplank. They could introduce Nilah here and coincide a new champion drop ingame with Jack, The Winner! He's a badass Sharkman who made some unknown deal with Tahm Kench. Also, they should show the origin of Pyke, not the champ as we know today, just the incident that cause his creation. Also, in LoR Miss Fortune has a monkey idol that is stated to have been taken by her from some old enemy. Also, there is a slot machine robot that had a 3 bomb jackpot and actually blew up the 1st time someone hit it. They've since fixed the robot but removed the bomb function.. I think it would be cool if Jinx was the original designer of the robot and made the idol in a buhru temple.
I don't think that they are retconning Rell, just providing more context to her story. They don't actually have to change a whole lot to Rell's story at all just add to it.
It is Riven because they showed us that Ambessa and her warrior Rictus used exactly the same black metal green runes as Riven's blade to block magic. That's how Riven gets the same anti-magic green shield in league as Ambessa did in Arcane.
@dimi2805 Nope! Riven's story tells us exactly how she got her blade, and it had nothing to do with Ambessa and would need a deep retcon to make that work, where Rell's story needs very little!....ijs
At around 5:00 when you say Riven and Rell... I would think it may be more likely Riven than Rell because Ambessa has a Voiceline connected to Riven; "The Exile! You betrayed your Nation for a useless cause! Pathetic!" For me it feels like Ambessa and Riven share atleast some history together. Also when Ambessa kills Riven; "Another dead traitor! If only you made something out of yourself Riven". I dont know... feels like a hinted former teacher/student relationshit or Ambessa once saw potential in her to Rise even higher. Because Riven was a Commander of a own warband. Has to be around the time where Ambessa was still in Noxus.
I figured it'd be riven cuz it sets up her character for the (alleged) Noxus show. Leading into the Ionian invasion since it was teased with Singed's recruitment. They could do a similar dual point of view with Riven and Swain since we also got the Raum teased
This Retcon drama & the last drama have major similarity. They both have chest in it... Anyway, So... Where is our Hextech Chest? Are we downgraded to Buy Battlephase for skin now?
Scared for what they may do to Rell, as a Rell enthusiast to quite the degree. But also intruiged as I, again, am a Rell Enthusiast. Rell being in arenas doesn't seem fitting but perhaps I'm wrong, because she could use arena's as a way to find more about the Null Children and if she can snag any info on the Black Rose. Can't wait to read it!
Yuri is a hobby for Himejoshi, who are people that mainly ship woman/woman content. They are the counterpart to Fujoshi, who enjoy Yaoi as a hobby. Creating fan content, such as fics, artwork, discussing the dynamics, is actual hobby stuff, and ends up with specific communties for these activities. Himejoshi, fujoshi and non-joshi alike all want one thing though. Hextech chests.
The book is all about how the blackrose are actually the good guys trying to bring back hextech chests, that's what leblanc meant by 'our next move must be bolder'
Kinda funny they decided to remove hextech chests cuz hextech got destroyed in arcane. Jokes aside you are improving a ton with lore videos lately, keep it up necrit
only a 12 and a half minute video over a reddit post???? whats going on here i was expecting more from you smh necrit falling off rip gonna remember your legacy with a hextech chest
They did say they didn't plan for Arcane to be canon back when it released and it only became so when it became a phenomenon. So when you brought up Rell, I thought "yep. Yep, that's her."
OK SPOILERS FOR MY THOUGHTS! Redacted character might be Riven? specially with the Noxian and "sharpening her teeth in the arena" Edit: Rell? I kinda prefer Riven, but i love Rell's design and whole metal girl vibe so might be cooler? Edit 2: Saphic couple possibly Rell and Mel? Rell has some quotes hinting she is BI so would be interesting to see
It is Riven because they showed us that Ambessa and her warrior Rictus used exactly the same black metal green runes as Riven's blade to block magic. That's how Riven gets the same anti-magic green shield in league as Ambessa did in Arcane.
Well Rell is bi so it would make sense. However, I hate that they decide to just destroy her lore after destroying the champion (Rell main from 2021 to 2024)
Imagine if Rell turns out to be a part of the Medarda clan, she could use her magnetic powers to get us back our chests
😂
Now i want a Rell skin that the horse is made of chests
@@jmanjulian it wouldn't surprise me if modders already did something like that xD
They retconed hextech chests
you beat me to it , where are them hextech chests
also level and ranked rewards!!!!!
They removed hextech chests using king crimson so chests never happend.
@LigmaLE more like they used heavens door on every player
@@rickroll276 they created a completly new reality where everything is reworked including the lore,
"Sir if we fuck with the lore enough people will forget about hexchests" "YES! that's BRILLIANT"
But never forget the hexstrap.
Something, something, hex chest
I wanna feel involved too
I hope they Ekko R back in time to when we had chests
@@swicknees1055 too many seconds ago, sadly :(
i cant wait to read the book and see ambessa open the hextech chest
Daily reminder that we still use summoner's spell
😂
Sir a Second retcon has hit the League of Legends
Edit: clearly many people dont deserve to hear jokes on the internet. It hurts their brain to much
Third. Rest in peace summoners
Maybe 1002nd retcon.
The retcon wasn't as major as i thought it'd be, which makes me glad tbh - even tho Rell is connected to the Blackrose and that one school (we'll most likely follow Annies perspective if they ever choose to animate this 'school'). But, yea, I'm sure Rell will still have her Metallic powers, and it'll be interesting to see how it's implemented in the book (Mages a welcomed in Noxus afterall).
we're on like retcon 5
There'll be no hospital then.
I'll tell the children.
Imagine Riot retconning Kled and nobody even noticing
Who?
Retconning the looney tune swearing Yordle? I mean, they can try
I mean, they can make retconning Kled cannon by just saying that he's insane and all his stories are just in his head.
@@Dr_Mundo I am 100% down for turning him into league's version of soldier
@@Dr_Mundo lmao couldn’t you say that for every character.
" this char is actually in asylum, talk to itself and this story is in its head" :')
The hextech chests have been retconned 😂
The way i saw the thumbnail and said "what the fuck" then insta clicked
Yeah I was wondering about that
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Rell has always been bi, so her having a yuri relationship is not a retcon
@@a.a677 yeah, but nobody cares about rell
@a.a677 yeah but that's not Rell on the thumbnail
Knew from the title it was gonna be Rell. In the middle of S2 when all the black rose stuff started going down I couldn't help but wonder where the hell Rell fit in all of this, being someone who is also hell bent on fighting the black rose. The mystery of Mel's parentage and Rell having a mysterious militant mother figure had me questioning the current canon and wondering if they weren't going to retcon Rell as being a secret Medarda or half sibling or something, but I like the "adopted daughter Ambessa wish she had" angle more.
Rell is a kid that was forced by the Black Rose and the big heads in Noxus to become the weapon that she is now. She HATES people like Ambessa, and now she is the adopted daughter of a warlord that was part of the system in Noxus that she hates.... 😐
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It is Riven because they showed us that Ambessa and her warrior Rictus used exactly the same black metal green runes as Riven's blade to block magic. That's how Riven gets the same anti-magic green shield in league as Ambessa did in Arcane.
No, she'll be the second Yorick in Sentinal of Light
@@dimi2805 Those metal runes are the "Kaenic Rookern" item in League that are actually tied to Ambessa, not Riven. They look similar but are not the same thing.
THE HEXCHESTS THEY ARE IN MY HEAD
"Mr. President, there's been another retcon" ahh title
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so rell will go from a "human weapon against mordekaiser" to "random child warrior N°13" ?
Tbf, they did a fairly bad job with her on the "living weapon against Mordekaiser" front. Homegirl should have been a top laner instead of a support nobody plays.
Does this mean Riot will also boycott the hextech chests?
In shambles, LoL’s lore lies torn apart,
A tapestry of tales, now fractured at the heart.
Each retcon a dagger, piercing the old,
Whispers of yore now drowned by the bold.
Hextechs, once proud, now cast aside,
Their gears ground to dust, their spark extinguished,
In this world of chaos, where balance falters,
A game of endless edits, where nothing lasts.
Toxicity in each thread, a tangled maze,
Players lost in the fog, with no clear phase.
Fractured symmetry, a broken mirror’s glance,
Where every patch brings more confusion and less chance.
A world once vibrant, now shadowed and gray,
Where lore is redefined every day.
Lot of nothing
Peak poem
Oh what a shocking news! Anyway where are my Hextech chests?
Maybe the retcon is that, instead of Rell breaking out of whatever Black Rose facility she was in, it's actually Ambessa who broke her and other "experiments" out.
That would add further fuel to the Ambessa vs. BlackRose conflict and it might also be tied to Mel's father. After all, he's also supposed to be a powerful mage and Ambessa's involvement with him ticked the Black Rose off. So he might have already been their enemy and Ambessa freed Rell because he asked her to do it OR he too was a sort of experiment for the Black Rose and Ambessa freed him because she wanted his power, and now repeats that with Rell, hoping to gather more support to take on the Black Rose.
That would also keep, what I think is, the emotional core of Rell's story intact, which is ultimately that she's very pissed at the Black Rose and her parents I think for having kept her imprisoned.
It is Riven because they showed us that Ambessa and her warrior Rictus used exactly the same black metal green runes as Riven's blade to block magic. That's how Riven gets the same anti-magic green shield in league as Ambessa did in Arcane.
@@dimi2805 I think that's a weak link.
After all, these runes are not unique to Riven. Sure, her sword uses them but she didn't make the sword nor invent the runes. That all comes from the Black Rose, so the fact that Ambessa, or to be more precise Rictus, uses them too is more suggestive of their shared past with the Black Rose, rather than their shared past with Riven.
@@lubue5795 Mel is her past with the Black Rose, Riven is her past with the runes. They didnt make up new kind of runes they used Rivens runes
@ But the runes that Riven uses come from her sword. And that big Rune Sword was given to Riven by the Black Rose. Riven herself doesn't know any runes or where the sword comes from.
So the runes also link back to the Black Rose, not to Riven.
@@dimi2805 They arent Rivens runes, they are from the Black Rose.
Where is the Mordekaiser lore hiding?
If it’s there, he’ll find it
In the hextech chests.
Hextech chest
Retconned as we speak.
mordekaiser hiding all the hextech chests in his realm
Leblanc did say Ambessa stole something from the black rose, and Rell seems like the perfect Medarda heir.
Huh, that actually makes sense, although I still think the something Ambessa stole was, at the end, Mel's power.
The Rell we have now would hate someone like Ambessa... And now she is turned into her "perfect adoptive daughter" is just sad
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@@robert_yebertThis is assuming Rell is ACTUALLY on board with being that heir
It is Riven because they showed us that Ambessa and her warrior Rictus used exactly the same black metal green runes as Riven's blade to block magic. That's how Riven gets the same anti-magic green shield in league as Ambessa did in Arcane.
As a certified Rell enjoyer I'm excited for this, especially if the main aspects of her story will be preserved. It's about time she got more attention in the lore, especially with the second part of Noxus season apparently focusing on Mordekaiser. I'm hyped for this.
Only Arcane Season 1 was in development during Rell's release. Season 2's script was not yet done, which could explain the retcon.
The hex crates situation is crazy
We skipped too fast over Ambessa’s VA being the one narrating the audiobook, I might get it just off that
i love learning about a fictional universe that seems interesting to me especially when every single thing i learned for 10 years means nothing cause its all getting changed at an alarming pace for the sake of making greedy people more money
Yeah same, I don't even know if I should bother with this new timeline, when in 10 years it'll get another retcon. They should never have stayed with the precident, that no lore is sacred (except when it makes tons of money)
How does greed affect lore changes? It seems to just be "creative reinventing" to me
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@ Riot didn't properly advertise the previous lore and deemed the writing team as an unnesecary expense. For example during the Ruination event, they weren't allowed to lead the event, the skin team did and the writers needed to scramble for a story. Thus many important characters to that story were pushed to the side, like Yorik.
Arcane was also first intended to be a seperate universe so that the writers had full creative freedom. But then Arcane was succesful and made them more money than any stuff of the universe. So they discarded anything on there and just said lets make Arcane canon, and now anything on the universepage is questionably canon.
They had 2 universes, the Game one and the Arcane one, instead of continuing both, like Marvel, they did cost reduction and said we will make Arcane canon and betrayed alot of old lore fans.
@@Joi2212 The Sentinels of Light event was sooo sad, I remember at one point even Senna complained that they were doing nothing but running around recruiting random people. It really felt like a writer venting after having to put so many random champions in this story.
the retcon may also be just moving Rel back on the timeline so i would hold my judgements until the book comes out
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League of Retcon
But...But...where are the hextech chests
Really weird how they are ''aging up'' the characters when compared to the previous canon. Rell is a teenager/young adult in ''current'' Noxus (the one pre-Arcane retcon), she was a little kid during the invasion of Ionia, if they make her a teen BEFORE the invasion and Swain's coup that would completely change her opinion about him (as she hates him for knowing about what the Black Rose is doing and not acting upon it, which wouldn't happen now) and place her solely against the Black Rose and nothing else (considering she's a bit of an anarchist, that changes a lot)
The same with Riven (if the spoilers about being Rell are fake), she was in her early 20s during the invasion, that change would put her into her 30s *after* being brought back to Noxus leading to Awaken and the events of Ruination with this altered timeline (or even older, considering ''young women'' described her could mean she was in her early 20s *before* the invasion)
If they're really changing the invasion of Ionia from a background important event into THE actual plot of what we're gonna see in future series, then yeah the retcon is all-encompassing, cuz most of the Ionia characters AND Noxus characters had that as the background of their stories (Irelia would be in her early teens, Shen and Zed teenagers)
Edit: can't help but just not believe what Christian Linke said about ''oh no it was planned for Arcane to be canon from the beginning!'' thing with this Rell retcon lol
Don't forget about Xin, who's also tied to Demacia. Like, with all those retcons they have to literally rewrite the ENTIRE lore. This was a stupid idea from the very beginning.
@ Forgot about him lmao. He was already kind of in Limbo considering him getting in Demacia was through a Jarvan III raid on Noxus fucking Capital, which is VERY BIG EVENT to basically never be mentioned anywhere besides his own Bio, but now he's even more in Limbo
Hextech chest
It's how political correctness starts and it always results in the death of the universe and its art.
I mean with Riven being a gladiator in her current lore for a bit, and the fact that she is the only one who we actively see use rune weapons, the only other ones being Ambessa and Rictus in Arcane.
I feel like there's a good chance that the retcon has to do with the runic weapons since we really haven't seen them anywhere else as Ambessa in league still doesn't use runic anything but y'know.
Yeah I feel Riven is way more likely than Rell? Especially since Riven's initial storyline had to do with Singed being in Noxus, and I don't get the impression they're going to pursuing that storyline, they only hinted at it before pivoting to him 'winning' - so they'll likely need to do something else with her.
It does make me a bit sad that Rell is getting her story rewritten. It was compelling to see how (from my understanding) she grew up thinking her and her friends at school were just training, and the slow horror of realizing they are all missing and she is getting more powerful, and then finding out it was LB sacrificing the other kids to make Rell more powerful (assumingly to combat Mordekaiser one day). Rell realized all of these kids, her friends, are dead in the name of power and Noxus, so in a fit of rage she completely destroys the academy. Her bio didn't really tie in with other characters so I could see why Riot would want to try and re-write her into Ambessa's story, and I think it could be cool, but just like with Ekko's old lore, it will always hold a special place in my heart.
Not sure what i'm more disappointed by. The retconing of Hextech Chests or retconing of Viktor.
Yuri is basically a "hextech chest on hextech chest" activity, Riot just actively mocking their audience
Damn, didn't know Ambessa's VA would be doing the audiobook narration. Think I might have to grab that.
0:40 I genuinely disagree with that. I don't think that most retcons were negative. The retcon of the Darkin made them way more in tune with the setting as a whole. The retcon of Volibear's story was also really good at improving his lore and the lore of the Freljord as a whole. I feel like there have been some really good retcons and some really important ones for the setting to prosper.
Well forget about all that good retcons cuz they will be retconned AGAIN to fit this arcane bulllcrap. Forget everything cuz its all arcane now
Yeah it's an insane take. Most retcon have been amazing receive.
@@taisha7291that's the point. Nothing from arcane or othe rgame based on arcane will be retcon.
Nah the first Varus retcon was booty the demacian one is meh, the removal of "Captain" Teemo cause it was a title that made allusion to war ranks and Yordles don't go that way. Like dang man, I didn't know the captain of the soccer team or the captain of the fishing boat was a warlord. I could go on for a while but that's just some I can think of rn.
Necrit learning more japanese media(anime/manga) jargon is funny to see, second only to the missing free hextech chest, which will surely come back... right ?
I can't believe Necrit spent several decades of his life on the Internet and about a third of that time in lore and fandom and managed to dodge the term "yuri". 😂
I love how Ambessa is ready to sacrifice even her family members for what she wants, it was very well depicted by removal of hextech chests
Never forget Stanpar, Summoners.
Could you provide me some context please?
Hextech chest
Wake me up when they're done with the retcons.
Or when they bring back the chests.
Retcon mean you get some new audience that experience new story for first time, and lost old audience that love the old story.
Rell is confirmed bisexual
This sounds so lovely, let's celebrate it with some hextech chests!
Rell is becoming really popular as a support so I see them wanting to make her have a better story. Hextech chests.
The lore she has now is better then whatever this fanfic shit is
@@pokemonlover4894 You didn't even read it 🙄
@@mkmc94 yes i did mutiple times beacuse Rell is one of my favourite champions
Wait...what if...Rell was actually the creator of the chests? The black Rose using her power to create them and just "branding" them hextech to make profit in Runeterra? That would explain why the retcon arrived after taking hextech chest from us
can't wait to see how rell's new lore talks about the legend of hextech chests
5:15 I would think Riven would be the one. I don't know much about the sword, but to me it kind of looks like the things Ambessa used to block magic.
You mean the item Kaenic Rookern ?, that's what Ambessa used.
@@childofpluto3994 Ah, didn't know it was an item in game. That's a cool reference. I only really play Legends of Runeterra.
@@BrolysShadow_ Black rose are the ones that made both runes, riven sword rebuild itself and does some cool stuff cuz of them, and Rookern absorb magic cuz of them too.
My first thought was immediately Riven
It is Riven because they showed us that Ambessa and her warrior Rictus used exactly the same black metal green runes as Riven's blade to block magic. That's how Riven gets the same anti-magic green shield in league as Ambessa did in Arcane.
I have always been excited for League of Legends news and videos!
But ever since they removed the Hextec Chests I am even more excited.
Because I can't wait to tell them TO BRING THEM THE FK BACK !
It’s absolutely riven because of the green runes they have in arcane that’s it
hextech when?
oh, wrong channel to complain about, srry
Where chests?
Reading comments i agree that the retcon about rell pulling hexchest is actually really good
more scissors ❌️
chest ✅️
She is a child, so I hope it is only a kiss
I mean, Rell has always been gay. Don't you remember how she's short of drooling over Leona in her voice lines?
What about Ekko and Sett? She is in both, and I hope they will keep in that way
It's funny, they forgot about her crush on Sera.
@@nyrowie Nickyboi said, she is not a character
I thought she was Bi
every character is gay, graves cant have a cigar but can fist twisted fate.
I don't think arcane fans ever complained about the sesbian lex.
We lesbians gonna have more lesbian chests to worship then hextech chest to open...
Honestly, I'll take that trade any day
@@serahill you shouldn't
@kintsugi3932 You're probably right, but no one has accused me of being smart.
Actually I think it's gonna be more like at least one bi chest especially if it turns out to be Rell related
@@AMightyStorm Rellated
Sorry
They should release a book about hextech chest
I don't see how Rell being into girls is a retcon? I'm pretty sure right on the release of Rell it was pretty much confirmed she was bi?
*Not to mention she quite literally has interaction lines for both strong men and strong female champions of her being a complete bi mess towards them*
She literally has 2 lines to Leona one of them is calling her hot and when she kills Leona she literally asks if she still has a chance so i dont know why ppl are surprised about this
Her being Bi is not the retcon that he was talking about but the backstory of Ambessas protege. Focus for once on stuff thats not LGBTQ and you would see the obvious stuf infront of you.
@@zema9401 i dont like her new lore at all beacuse it literally sounds like a fanfic made by someone that has only watch arcane and heard shit theories on twitter
I really loved the part where the review explained how rell accidentally sent the hextech chests into the void and now we have to get them back
Oh good, your thumbnail made it seem like they were retconning Ambessa's implied bi-ness to make her straight. Whew. Dodged that bullet.
Wtf the hexchest at.
Ambessa and Rell are a fascinating master/student pairing. While I think working under a very harsh and practical Ambessa could help seed in Riven's disillusionment with Noxus, it could also serve as a solid substitute fuel for Rell's one-woman crusade.
Wonder if Rell's gonna form a relationship with Mel, Elora, or some new character. Would be neat if it was Cass before she departs for Shurima, but I doubt it.
Riven has an Ironclad piece of lore. She is a fan favourite (saddly, personally I dont like her) so there is no way in hell she is the one to get retconned. On the other hand Rell's story is shallow, with very little development. Frankly as a lore enjoyer I found her story pretty meh, even though I enjoy the champions gameplay.
Yep exactly, changing riven's lore will affect yone, yasuo as well
Now i really need to buy this book! As a Rell enjoyer anything that has something to do with her is a must for me!
It is Riven because they showed us that Ambessa and her warrior Rictus used exactly the same black metal green runes as Riven's blade to block magic. That's how Riven gets the same anti-magic green shield in league as Ambessa did in Arcane.
She has 3 chapters written in her POV
Honey wake up... the second retcon in less of three months just dropped!
11:30 not a chance that you didn't know what that meant 😂
Ambessa is also into both at least confirmed by the author
And that's why I no longer care about League's lore
still have this theory that Ambessa had Rell taken from her by the black rose. they're just perfect to be connected like that
I went from having read all the journals of justice and champion bios to having no idea what the hell is going on or if something is canon at any time.
I havent played since season 3 and now I want the hextech chest back
Yeah the redacted character is Rell, other reviewers of the book already confirmed it
That thumbnail I was like what
Are the rell enjoyers with us in the room right now?
maybe after arcane season 3
I mean here I am, but I'm pretty sure no one would actually care sadly, but this new story for Rell is just out of character. Rewriting Rell, a character that hates big heads in Noxus and wants to turn it all down along with the Black rose, as now an "adoptive daughter" of one of the most Noxus like characters AND a big head in there is just... Sad, she would hate someone like Ambessa what you mean she is now looking up and learning from her????
Hextech chest
@@robert_yebertYeah, it completely kills the point of her character and makes her absolutely boring.
6:54 i love this part with the cutoff 😭😭😁😁
I'm remembering the recon movie. Good times. Necrit we live you
I quite literally thought this up after I watched Arcane S2 finale before the welcome to Noxus cinematic was released.
Theory time: My thoughts are that this is a younger Darius, years before the establishment of the Trifarix. Maybe right before he has become the Hand?
He will get a new runic magic axe, a big beefy one like the one in 2XKO! I also think that the Silken Dance isn't a one time game event, but rather a Black Rose tradition used to conduct sensitive business and scout new possible members. If it happens say every 5 years or so, then It is possible that all the champs who have skins, do eventually attend a Silken Dance, just maybe not the one in this cinematic. I think Arcane happens much earlier on the timeline than most fans think and that the next show should pick up with Mel and her return to Noxus as matriarch of the Mardardas. Boram Darkwill should still be ruling Noxus, and this should be before the the 1st invasion of Ionia. I think that the item LeBlanc tricks Darkwill into looking for in Ionia is a Darkin weapon and that is what starts the 1st invasion. We know because of Legends of Runeterra that there are Darkin weapons in Ionia, and they do technically let you live forever if your bound to them, so.....
The raven at the end of Arcane probably was just Raum, not Swain yet. Singed being a wanted man in Piltover-Zaun has also fled to Noxus, where he will be recruited by their military to make weapons. The main storyline should be the things happening in Noxus before and during the Ionian invasion, Darkwill's fall, and the rise of the Trifarix. I want this to be about 4 seasons. I think Rell should be introduced as Mel's secret twin! Ambessa should have been the person running the Black Rose's mage School/weapons project. It was a deal she made with LeBlanc in order to add mages into her bloodline. According to the deal, she was to give all arcane gifted children to the Black Rose for training, but she hid Mel's power instead and sent her to Piltover partially for that reason. When she told Mel about having to sacrifice one child for another, maybe she wasn't just talking about Kino. Mel and Rell, I think that would be interesting. We might get a few scenes of the war because the latter half of this show, Seasons 3 & 4, take place during the Ionian invasion, but it shouldn't really focus on that. The main plot should focus inside the political machinations of NoxusI I would have the next show after Noxus, be in Demacia. It would be 5 seasons. S1 would start about a year or so before the Noxus show ends. It would set up characters like Lux, Garen, Jarvan IV, Sylas, Poppy and Fiora, as well as have major flashbacks to Targon with the story of Pantheon, Kayle, and Morgana. S2-S4 would address the system of the mageseekers, continue progression of the Kayle/Morgana story, give side stories for Shyvana and Fiddlesticks and show the creation of Galio. S5 would have the full outing of Lux as a mage and the full Mage Rebellion. In the very last episode Jinx would show up to help Demacia rebuild and restructure their society and start to build a life long friendship with Lux. This canonically should start around the same time as the last year of Arcane's story, Outside of flashbacks, this should be about a 5 year story. Sometime after the Noxus show ends, but before the Demacia show does, a theatrical movie release should happen. It should be a story about Jinx in a Bilgewater adventure. That is where she headed after leaving Piltover-Zaun. After a high speed, adrenaline pumping, gun blazing pirate adventure with Miss Fortune, and being tested by Illoai, she should head to Demacia. The events of the movie should happen at the same time as Miss Fortune taking down Gangplank and replacing him as leader of Bilgewater. Her and Jinx can start off at each others throats, and then combine forces to beat Gangplank. They could introduce Nilah here and coincide a new champion drop ingame with Jack, The Winner! He's a badass Sharkman who made some unknown deal with Tahm Kench. Also, they should show the origin of Pyke, not the champ as we know today, just the incident that cause his creation. Also, in LoR Miss Fortune has a monkey idol that is stated to have been taken by her from some old enemy. Also, there is a slot machine robot that had a 3 bomb jackpot and actually blew up the 1st time someone hit it. They've since fixed the robot but removed the bomb function.. I think it would be cool if Jinx was the original designer of the robot and made the idol in a buhru temple.
I don't think that they are retconning Rell, just providing more context to her story. They don't actually have to change a whole lot to Rell's story at all just add to it.
It is Riven because they showed us that Ambessa and her warrior Rictus used exactly the same black metal green runes as Riven's blade to block magic. That's how Riven gets the same anti-magic green shield in league as Ambessa did in Arcane.
@dimi2805 Nope! Riven's story tells us exactly how she got her blade, and it had nothing to do with Ambessa and would need a deep retcon to make that work, where Rell's story needs very little!....ijs
Its so cool they retcon stuff so its more immersive with the removal of hextech chests
WHERE'S HEXTECH CHEST .... oh wrong channel
At around 5:00 when you say Riven and Rell... I would think it may be more likely Riven than Rell because Ambessa has a Voiceline connected to Riven; "The Exile! You betrayed your Nation for a useless cause! Pathetic!" For me it feels like Ambessa and Riven share atleast some history together. Also when Ambessa kills Riven; "Another dead traitor! If only you made something out of yourself Riven". I dont know... feels like a hinted former teacher/student relationshit or Ambessa once saw potential in her to Rise even higher. Because Riven was a Commander of a own warband. Has to be around the time where Ambessa was still in Noxus.
The book will tell us that the main reason Ambessa went to Piltover in Arcane is to find Hextech chests
I figured it'd be riven cuz it sets up her character for the (alleged) Noxus show. Leading into the Ionian invasion since it was teased with Singed's recruitment. They could do a similar dual point of view with Riven and Swain since we also got the Raum teased
Soon enough league is going to retcon enough lore that necrit will have to redo every video on his channel.
Man i love the hoodie necrit wears! it would be awesome if remix rumble is the next set revival *wink wink*
I see yuri in the thumbnail I click
I'm ngl the recent retcons checked me out of the lore completely. But by far the worst retcons was that of hextech chests...
Riven’s sword is on the leblanc wall too, it has the same shape anyway
This Retcon drama & the last drama have major similarity. They both have chest in it...
Anyway, So... Where is our Hextech Chest?
Are we downgraded to Buy Battlephase for skin now?
2 LAST RELL ENJOYERS, WE ARE FINALLY EATING WITH THIS ONE!
Scared for what they may do to Rell, as a Rell enthusiast to quite the degree.
But also intruiged as I, again, am a Rell Enthusiast.
Rell being in arenas doesn't seem fitting but perhaps I'm wrong, because she could use arena's as a way to find more about the Null Children and if she can snag any info on the Black Rose.
Can't wait to read it!
Yuri is a hobby for Himejoshi, who are people that mainly ship woman/woman content. They are the counterpart to Fujoshi, who enjoy Yaoi as a hobby. Creating fan content, such as fics, artwork, discussing the dynamics, is actual hobby stuff, and ends up with specific communties for these activities. Himejoshi, fujoshi and non-joshi alike all want one thing though. Hextech chests.
The book is all about how the blackrose are actually the good guys trying to bring back hextech chests, that's what leblanc meant by 'our next move must be bolder'
This was an outstanding video! Thank you so much! 🎉
Kinda funny they decided to remove hextech chests cuz hextech got destroyed in arcane. Jokes aside you are improving a ton with lore videos lately, keep it up necrit
only a 12 and a half minute video over a reddit post???? whats going on here i was expecting more from you smh necrit falling off rip gonna remember your legacy with a hextech chest
I cant wait for the hexchests to be brought into the lore
Man i can't believe the hextech chest yuri was real
They did say they didn't plan for Arcane to be canon back when it released and it only became so when it became a phenomenon. So when you brought up Rell, I thought "yep. Yep, that's her."
i see yuri and a character connected to arcane, i click
OK SPOILERS FOR MY THOUGHTS!
Redacted character might be Riven? specially with the Noxian and "sharpening her teeth in the arena"
Edit: Rell? I kinda prefer Riven, but i love Rell's design and whole metal girl vibe so might be cooler?
Edit 2: Saphic couple possibly Rell and Mel? Rell has some quotes hinting she is BI so would be interesting to see
It is Riven because they showed us that Ambessa and her warrior Rictus used exactly the same black metal green runes as Riven's blade to block magic. That's how Riven gets the same anti-magic green shield in league as Ambessa did in Arcane.
Well Rell is bi so it would make sense. However, I hate that they decide to just destroy her lore after destroying the champion (Rell main from 2021 to 2024)