I've always hated the "dying villain who acts out of necessity or survival" trope. Especially in this film. This is because it makes him a victim, not a villain, and because it makes Peter, the hero, pathologically unsympathetic. He was willing to let his best friend die without even trying to save him when it was probably solely within his power to do so. There's just no excuse for that.
@@jonathonpolk3592 it's not a bad trope in general. Pretty good and solid reason to become a villain - to survive, plain and simple. But I agree that specifically here Peter just shown as a really strange dude who while being genius scientist and having the cure literally run through his veins, didn't even try to help his dying friend, just refused repeatedly "just because" and ignored him lol
I agree however….on Harry I disagree. Gwen had nothing to do with that shit. An he got her killed all to get back at Spider-Man…for what. An the ironic thing is even if Peter had given his blood to Harry it wouldn’t have cured him anyway. Because the spider venom could only work for someone who had Peter’s father DNA So even if Peter gave Harry his blood, it could have made Harry’s condition worse.
4:01 to 4:06 Fun fact: The actor was asked in a Comic Con what practical effects were used for the back scene and he replied that there are no effects, he was just contorting himself, the magic is in the zoom and sound to make it look more grotesque.
In every single universe harry Osborn is going through something. Him being sick, him hating Spider-Man for killing his dad, him thinking his father doesn’t love him, him trying to to get his father to see him and him trying to be the goblin. I’m just saying in every show, cartoon, movie or game he’s always going through something.
Well Norman sees Harry as a disappointment but saw more potential in Peter even before he became Spider-Man which made Harry envious of Peter and why their friendship is strained. And Norman is cold and calculating, he never told Harry he loved him or even said that he liked him. So, Harry tries to prove himself and win his father's approval
The Green Goblin transformation scene is epic. Proper body horror. I remember cringing at this in the cinema. This was one of the most graphic scenes in a PG13 movie and the Tobey and Andrew films had serious balls on showing some really creative brutal stuff, before MCU going tame on violence and gore (but seems like they are taking notes and going brutal now as well from No Way Home and Doctor Strange 2)
In the TASM universe the reason the Spider-Venom worked on Peter when the Spider bit him was because His father Richard made the Spiders as a potential cure to help Norman Osborn, but when he found out about the Dark Conspiracy Oscorp was going to use the Cross-Species genetics for that he and Doctor Connors worked on he destroyed all his research and tried to leave the country, The Spiders were the most promising cure but the reason they never worked on anyone else but Peter was because Richard sequenced the Genome to only work with the Parker DNA, hence Peter wasn't affected the way Harry was and gained the powers to be Spider-Man, the reason Oscorp couldn't re-code the Spider-Venom was because Richard destroyed all of his research so Oscorp couldn't use it for the Biological weapons that they had made a deal with for a foreign military power to fund Richard's research, and they killed Richard and Mary Parker for betraying them so the guy who created the Spider-Venom was gone. Yeah long winded explanation but that"s the way the lore was written for the TASM Universe
@@CAPEDCRUSADER3900if we think about it, why Peter's father don't lock it to Osborns DNA? Venom will be still not working on others but Osborns family, and Norman can be cured. I mean, Peter's father just as cruel to Osborns family as Peter later
@@darkpartizan Probably because Oscorp would've still found a way to weaponize it, even if it was restricted only to Norman's DNA. They'd still remove Richard from the picture and then keep experimenting with Norman or Harry to find a way to replicate it. Given that some mysterious 'foreign military organization' was funding the project, I doubt they'd even care about what happens to the Osborns as long as they get their weapons in the end.
3:32 so the spider venom that harry was desperate to cure him made his symptoms and condition a disaster since the venom from the Araneus OsCorpeus spider was only meant for Peter since he was bitten in the first movie and realized why his father Richard Parker discovered a dark conspiracy that Norman Osborn made a deal with a foreign military organization to create bio weapons for his company which explains why he destroyed his research
There a bunch of explanations besides obvious filming process. At first, every villain (even if they had redemption in the original films) got transported to MCU before their moment of death. So maybe Harry still alive in TASM universe. And maybe he's not a villain anymore, just prisoner, who repented his actions on Peter. But well, we lost a interesting line, if when Osborn said "there is no even my son" or something like this, and then new Goblin comes around
@@darkpartizan it is entirely possible that he’s alive and repenting. We saw at the end of tasm 2 that the suit he wore had caused his disease to begin healing which I guess restored his sanity and normal body.So maybe with enough time to think it over he did in fact repent.
@@DarthRevan111-p6x but he wasn't insane, just too angry and dissapointed. He acted not because craziness, but over his sense of being broken and abandoned. Also, i think he repent later, but serum is still active in him, so he keep his powers in recovered body
Say what you will of the Andrew Garfield Spider-man films, but I always thought this was THE perfect real-world believable explanation of the Green Golblin’s origin. This scene gave me chills, and I really wished they would have run with the character for a while in sequels.
AVI ARAD has ruined so far... * Borderlands * Venom: The Last Dance * Daredevil (2003) * The Punisher (2004) * Elektra (2005) * Fantastic Four (2005) * X-Men: The Last Stand * Spider-Man 3 * Bratz (2007) * Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance * The Amazing Spider-Man 2 * Ghost in the Shell (2017) * Venom: Let There Be Carnage * Uncharted (2022) * Morbius And now he's gonna ruin... * Kraven the Hunter * Legend of Zelda * Naruto As long as Arad lives, there's no hope
Menken isn't the stupid one. Harry is for not listening to anyone thinking the Spider Venom could save him. Him with diseases makes him make such stupid decisions blinded to think of the consequences.
Defoe had a great perfomance to portrait a fully mentally unstable version of Goblin. Anyway, we still never got an Ultimate version, which looks similar to Abomination, by the way, big, green and ugly. I mean, original GG never was about physiology, it was about psychology
Funny how the people criticizes Spider Man 3's venom, but don't care about this shit Goblin and the fact that they put Harry being goblin first than Norman, lmfao.
Yep Spider man 3 is a masterpiece compared to this shit. TASM2 is an abomination from start to finish and I would happily never watch it again for as long as I live. Hell spider man 3 isn’t even as bad as people say it is. It’s a great movie just not a great Spider-Man movie. The acting in spider man 3 is still great unlike in TASM2. Terrible. Absolutely terrible. Just an awful movie.
Spider man 2 s Peter is such a xxxhole ，your friend is dying and you dont even give him the blood , what can be worst than death? He just dont wanna share the spider power , its not about turning into spider monster.
1:44 I love that Electro was kind enough to close that before he left, he doesn't want anyone to trip over that.
@@luwucian4497 electro is escaping
@@MarkMyers-l5dwhat
@@MarkMyers-l5d no shit sherlock
"Gotta be carefull where you fall" - Max Dillon
Harry: *"What* *is* *all* *this* *stuff?"*
Fans: *"What* *could* *have* *been"*
Two villains I can't help but sympathize with!! Harry just wanted to survive and avoid being ill, and Max just wanted to be seen!!
Electric man and Harry two each another best usually build spider man 😢amazing
I've always hated the "dying villain who acts out of necessity or survival" trope. Especially in this film. This is because it makes him a victim, not a villain, and because it makes Peter, the hero, pathologically unsympathetic. He was willing to let his best friend die without even trying to save him when it was probably solely within his power to do so. There's just no excuse for that.
@@jonathonpolk3592 it's not a bad trope in general. Pretty good and solid reason to become a villain - to survive, plain and simple. But I agree that specifically here Peter just shown as a really strange dude who while being genius scientist and having the cure literally run through his veins, didn't even try to help his dying friend, just refused repeatedly "just because" and ignored him lol
This spiderman movie gotta be the best spiderman movie ever...
I agree however….on Harry I disagree. Gwen had nothing to do with that shit. An he got her killed all to get back at Spider-Man…for what.
An the ironic thing is even if Peter had given his blood to Harry it wouldn’t have cured him anyway. Because the spider venom could only work for someone who had Peter’s father DNA
So even if Peter gave Harry his blood, it could have made Harry’s condition worse.
4:01 to 4:06 Fun fact: The actor was asked in a Comic Con what practical effects were used for the back scene and he replied that there are no effects, he was just contorting himself, the magic is in the zoom and sound to make it look more grotesque.
That's insane
@@thelookingcatwhat is?
@@Hannah-v4p4v that the actor did the contortions himself!!!
@ he did?
@@Hannah-v4p4v that's what the original comment said, yes.
In every single universe harry Osborn is going through something. Him being sick, him hating Spider-Man for killing his dad, him thinking his father doesn’t love him, him trying to to get his father to see him and him trying to be the goblin. I’m just saying in every show, cartoon, movie or game he’s always going through something.
And they Peter has it rough..
Well Norman sees Harry as a disappointment but saw more potential in Peter even before he became Spider-Man which made Harry envious of Peter and why their friendship is strained.
And Norman is cold and calculating, he never told Harry he loved him or even said that he liked him. So, Harry tries to prove himself and win his father's approval
a really underrated movie, Garfield made the role his own and the plot was brilliant
Thank you
It’s pure shit lol
This movie sucked
no, this movie was trash
I love when people try and TELL me what movies are good and bad. It’s my opinion you troglodytes
The Green Goblin transformation scene is epic. Proper body horror. I remember cringing at this in the cinema. This was one of the most graphic scenes in a PG13 movie and the Tobey and Andrew films had serious balls on showing some really creative brutal stuff, before MCU going tame on violence and gore (but seems like they are taking notes and going brutal now as well from No Way Home and Doctor Strange 2)
You call this crap body horror?
Far from body horror lol
I bet you think YA novel films are "good" and you definitely one of those watching Twilight and THINK it's good romance.
So why did Harry need the serum if it was the suit's healing protocol that kept him alive?
He taught the serum could cure him. It didn't work. The suit can prevent him from dying but it also doesn't cure him.
In the TASM universe the reason the Spider-Venom worked on Peter when the Spider bit him was because His father Richard made the Spiders as a potential cure to help Norman Osborn, but when he found out about the Dark Conspiracy Oscorp was going to use the Cross-Species genetics for that he and Doctor Connors worked on he destroyed all his research and tried to leave the country, The Spiders were the most promising cure but the reason they never worked on anyone else but Peter was because Richard sequenced the Genome to only work with the Parker DNA, hence Peter wasn't affected the way Harry was and gained the powers to be Spider-Man, the reason Oscorp couldn't re-code the Spider-Venom was because Richard destroyed all of his research so Oscorp couldn't use it for the Biological weapons that they had made a deal with for a foreign military power to fund Richard's research, and they killed Richard and Mary Parker for betraying them so the guy who created the Spider-Venom was gone.
Yeah long winded explanation but that"s the way the lore was written for the TASM Universe
@@CAPEDCRUSADER3900if we think about it, why Peter's father don't lock it to Osborns DNA? Venom will be still not working on others but Osborns family, and Norman can be cured. I mean, Peter's father just as cruel to Osborns family as Peter later
@@darkpartizan Probably because Oscorp would've still found a way to weaponize it, even if it was restricted only to Norman's DNA. They'd still remove Richard from the picture and then keep experimenting with Norman or Harry to find a way to replicate it. Given that some mysterious 'foreign military organization' was funding the project, I doubt they'd even care about what happens to the Osborns as long as they get their weapons in the end.
@@CAPEDCRUSADER3900but that does not answer the question. He wants to know why harry did not use the healing protocol suit in the first place
Oh.... looking at little goblin jr, gonna cry?
3:32 so the spider venom that harry was desperate to cure him made his symptoms and condition a disaster since the venom from the Araneus OsCorpeus spider was only meant for Peter since he was bitten in the first movie and realized why his father Richard Parker discovered a dark conspiracy that Norman Osborn made a deal with a foreign military organization to create bio weapons for his company which explains why he destroyed his research
That soundtrack reminds me Crysis 2, Hans Zimmer's Touch 🔥♥️
Ιndeed!
Bro the scene where the "drug" is starting to travel from his arm to his neck and the sounds playing are chilling AF 👀
I wish we could’ve seen more of Special Projects Division
Security mode engaged: coincidentally, disco mode engaged!
Nah but why does this transformation give me the chills.. 😳
Because you have a horrible draft in your home.
lol 🤣
It gives me american werewolf in london vibes
Not as bad but Harrys body is literally disfiguring/changing itself as he gets stronger
Power beyond natural.
Watch the extended version its even more horrifying
Loved him in this film. The only issue I had with this scene was how the heck did he even get into the suit in his condition?
Probably like tony in iron man
My question is why didn't the suits lock down when the alarm was set.
@@audrab27as i remeber he broke some of security systems before, with Electro help
My take, suit was about almost automatized, so one thing he should do is just stand up for moments
@darkpartizan oh ok ty. I saw everything closing but that and was curious.
God Dammit, why couldn’t he be in No Way Home??? That would’ve been insane to see the two Goblins interact
There a bunch of explanations besides obvious filming process. At first, every villain (even if they had redemption in the original films) got transported to MCU before their moment of death. So maybe Harry still alive in TASM universe. And maybe he's not a villain anymore, just prisoner, who repented his actions on Peter. But well, we lost a interesting line, if when Osborn said "there is no even my son" or something like this, and then new Goblin comes around
This Goblin was dog shit lol.
@@darkpartizan it is entirely possible that he’s alive and repenting. We saw at the end of tasm 2 that the suit he wore had caused his disease to begin healing which I guess restored his sanity and normal body.So maybe with enough time to think it over he did in fact repent.
@@DarthRevan111-p6x but he wasn't insane, just too angry and dissapointed. He acted not because craziness, but over his sense of being broken and abandoned. Also, i think he repent later, but serum is still active in him, so he keep his powers in recovered body
@@darkpartizan that is a valid theory. However he does scream Harry is dead and laughes like someone who’s insane.
“Everyone evacuate!”
*pulls emergency latch*
*overly dramatic flashing lights*
The Green Goblin and the City of a Thousand Planets.
Say what you will of the Andrew Garfield Spider-man films, but I always thought this was THE perfect real-world believable explanation of the Green Golblin’s origin. This scene gave me chills, and I really wished they would have run with the character for a while in sequels.
Harry is like a Evil Justin Bieber 😂
BAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Omg you're right! He looks like an emo Bieber 😂
Otto octavius arms is there also in a showcase
So... A regular Justin Beiber
@@Breanna-tp7if beat me to it😂😂😂
@@harryturner8701 My apologies. I just call it like I see it.
Best scene of the movie
Dane dehaan is a great potential actor why the F hollywood doesn't use him right
I watched valerian 10 times
I liked that movie since Dane, the actor who played Harry did his time at RavenCroft
Better theme song for green goblin
If you look very closely you can see doc ocs tentacles suit to the left of the goblin suit could in that Dr. Octaves could’ve been in this movie? 2:23
there were deleted scenes from sony of the film with doc oct symbiote rhino vulture setting up for sinister 6 in tasm3
It was setup for a Sinister Six solo movie in the would-be TASMU
Harry: What’s Happening?
Back to formula! Wait...
The electro fx are insane
only a socialpath will rage for a thing so small
AVI ARAD has ruined so far...
* Borderlands
* Venom: The Last Dance
* Daredevil (2003)
* The Punisher (2004)
* Elektra (2005)
* Fantastic Four (2005)
* X-Men: The Last Stand
* Spider-Man 3
* Bratz (2007)
* Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance
* The Amazing Spider-Man 2
* Ghost in the Shell (2017)
* Venom: Let There Be Carnage
* Uncharted (2022)
* Morbius
And now he's gonna ruin...
* Kraven the Hunter
* Legend of Zelda
* Naruto
As long as Arad lives, there's no hope
Wait what they doing a naruto live action
Electro's character design was so good tho. I never understood why people disliked it so much.
This scene scared me when I first watched it. Rewatching it just gives me PTSD
why not just take the suit, and skip the venom if the suit is doing the healing
It only healed the fatal effects of his disease, it wouldn't cure the symptoms.
00:22 - 00:28 "My oh my how the tables have turned" On the nose
Menken isn't the stupid one. Harry is for not listening to anyone thinking the Spider Venom could save him. Him with diseases makes him make such stupid decisions blinded to think of the consequences.
Wow, looks just like Justin beiber👀 👌 😳 🔥
3:33 *best part*
We’re locking down! …Save for these sassy fashions, of course!
Tbh if Harry was so evil he is fine
Imagine if first spider man movie green goblin Transform like this that will be intersting.
For more likes 👍
Defoe had a great perfomance to portrait a fully mentally unstable version of Goblin. Anyway, we still never got an Ultimate version, which looks similar to Abomination, by the way, big, green and ugly. I mean, original GG never was about physiology, it was about psychology
1:56
He can just grab the gun and shoot Harry
That's such a bad thing, why would he do that?
He just wanted to be out
Funny how the people criticizes Spider Man 3's venom, but don't care about this shit Goblin and the fact that they put Harry being goblin first than Norman, lmfao.
Yep Spider man 3 is a masterpiece compared to this shit. TASM2 is an abomination from start to finish and I would happily never watch it again for as long as I live. Hell spider man 3 isn’t even as bad as people say it is. It’s a great movie just not a great Spider-Man movie. The acting in spider man 3 is still great unlike in TASM2. Terrible. Absolutely terrible. Just an awful movie.
@@conallhomer453the cringest and gay villain was there in TASM 2
@@conallhomer453TASM2 isn't that bad.
Poor sally bugs always getting killed.
I can see somewhere venom symbiote
Dang,Electro must stop to allying Goblin-Guys in all his movies(?
To think the Amazing Spider-Man 3 got canceled all because Andrew was sick and couldn't make it to one stupid interview😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Push dorongan
Spider man 2 s
Peter is such a xxxhole ，your friend is dying and you dont even give him the blood , what can be worst than death?
He just dont wanna share the spider power , its not about turning into spider monster.
Scary 😧
The hair they gave goblin, looks so bad
Dehan is the worst actor since Kinnamon and Hammer. Can't even transform into a villain without being insufferable.
Is no one going to say that you can see doctor octopus mechanical arms there
You mean hop goblin was harry not hop goblin ? Correct me if im wrong
Harry was hob goblin the comics
Sheebu my cousin
Miscast. Peter and harry cast should switch.
The gayest Green Goblin so far.
is you
@@widlones that time of month again eh cupcake? 🤣
You shouldn't have said things like that, old man.
Delete this comment you gay
@@widlones why not cupcake?
Villains for gay Gen Z
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Просроченные собаки Баскервилей.
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So dumb!!
The greenest fayest green goblin of al time