Yeah his spider sense is kicked off even more intensely than Dr ock appearing at the bridge wrecking havoc. Tho I suppose the fact that goblins change was unseen makes it even more creepy.
I came to comment this exact thing. The fact that Goblin’s presence is such an oppressive force of evil is crazy and is so nostalgic to the very first Tobey Spiderman movie. I remember watching that as a kid and the Goblin was terrifying he was just a malevolent force of murder and mayhem. He tortured Aunt May in that movie with the Hail Mary scene and of course there’s the events of this movie where he shows how evil he really is.
This is the proof that Willem Dafoe as the green goblin is the ultimate villian of spiderman. His voice, his presence and his determination are so menacing. And he was responsible of two Peter Parkers becoming spiderman by attacking their hearts
One good movie and one good actor is all it takes to improve a character. I'm not saying green goblin wasn't a big deal, but iron man was a only a b lister until RDJ upgraded him so much because of iron man 1.
Defoe's Green Goblin is one of the best comicbook movie villains. He was killed off too quickly in the original Spider-Man movie. Bringing him back wasn't just nostalgia - it was genius.
@@thudthud5423 Goblin is solo villain. It was good move to kill him in particular in first movie. Its not like he was any other marvel villain - he actually had good run during his movie, great duel and great death. Even his death made impact that lasted in Peters life until the end of S3 with Harry trying to pick up goblin mantle. Goblin still was Peters main enemy, even from the grave after he was long dead - he still haunted him.
This is the movie that taught me how Goblin is basically the Marvel's equavelent of The Joker. He's evil to the core, doesn't care a wit about anyone or anything else including himself, and wants only chaos and this self-fulfillment through these evil deeds, and only wanting to see the protagonist and their ideals shatter into pieces, mentally breaking them at the end
I think the mask was great in the original movie and putting a screen over its mouth to see Defoe "evil-talking" behind it was a good move. Keeping him in the green armor in this movie and having him collected a purple hoodie was a slick move to get him into a more comicbook accurate look. But, as you said, Defoe's face and expressions made a great if not superior "mask".
@@La.2blea.ivan04that pepole with such powers like them can have evrything they want and take over the world,but peter is "too weak" and refuses,just like he said to tobey in Spiderman 1
I love how oppressive and suffocating goblin is to Peter during their first fight, giving him no room to recover and standing unflinching to his Peter's attacks. Really makes you go "oh no..."
Yeah, it really elevated the fight and played into Goblin showing Peter why his morality was his weakness. Bro kept beating the shit out of him. No pause, no rest, just a merciless beat down to enforce that feeling of powerlessness. It was so reminiscent of goblin’s fight against Tobey’s Spider-Man in the Raimi movie as well - when he uses the Tram and civilians to fight him and then throws a bomb in his face no warning or nothing then proceeds to beat the shit out of him as well. He only stops to give his villainous monologue and to revel in Peter’s misery.
It's ironic, when Goblin said "i'm gonna fix you" he really did fix Peter, but not the way he wanted, by killing his aunt he basically made him become Spider-Man towards the end XD
What do you mean by "he basically made him become Spider-Man towards the end"? Peter Parker has always been Spider-Man since Civil War, what are you talking about?
@AmericanUNCENSORED This is the movie and role that got me into Willem Dafoe so I give this film a ton of credit for getting me to better know an actor like him.
This was one of the most Spider-Man things I have ever seen. Peter having all of his biggest villians in an apartment behaving civil for once to try to help them until it all goes out of control. Its like a whacky scenario that you would see in one of his comic issues. And ofcourse the fight sequences are very well thought out and true to Spidey's style of fighting.
The Lizard scene where he says "and so it begins" really bugged me at first. I thought the whole thing was staged at first and that they planned at a certain time to begin the fight. Now I think what makes more sense is Lizard, like Peter, has a sensing ability. So Lizard sensed Goblin and knew a fight was about to ensue.
I dislike how people keep claiming Tom is stronger. Like, let each Spiderman have their own thing. Tom already is the super genius with Stark Tech, he doesn't need to be the best at strength, speed, agility, and everything else.
Vulture attacked peter physically, Mysterio attacked his mind, but Goblin went straight for the heart. He didnt even hesitant. The true antagonist to every Spider-Man. And he wasn't even first canonically (in the comics)
Having Goblin no sell spider mans strikes and laughing in his face was brilliant. Having him show no pain and just loving the conflict is terrifying. This rework of Goblin has to be the best depiction so far
@@andreasboose5611 I didn't, it made him look like a Power Rangers villain, Gobby is supposed to be grotesque. He is much more frightening without the mask, him wearing green Joker-type war paint would be good enough.
@@KenMasters.Yeah yeah yeah, Power Rangers. Keep that complaint back in 2002. It's goofy. The only problem with the helmet is that it hides Willem Dafoe's incredible facial acting. I think No Way Home did a good compromise by having the helmet be present in the movie, but be destroyed early on.
Aunt May's final words weren't for concern about herself, but concern about Peter. She asked if he was okay when his hand was revealed to be all bloody. She honestly believed he was the one who was hurt and her concern was for his safety, when she lay there dying. Little wonder her death shook Peter as hard as it did.
As someone who had to watch his father figures die in front of him. It indeed shakes you. You're never the same after it happens. Especially 4 times within the same month
@@Carlos-nz3vi its a callback about the monologue he gave to Spider-Man (tobey) in the first 2002 movie,the lesson about what it matters is power and that the way of the hero is useless bc ppl will never accept it, they rather prefer to see a hero/die/fall bc is more Easy,with that monologue goblin states that he and Spider-Man are "gods" to these people and they should be the ones teachin them lessons
What’s crazy is although people didn’t like how May said the famous quote said by Stan Lee, she actually said it verbatim. “With great power, there also must come great responsibility” is the full quote and Marissa Tomey killed it. It also kills me that when she saw blood she asked what happened like Pete was hurt, only thinking of others till the very end. Such a great scene
My two favorite parts to the Goblin was when he's laughing as Peter is on top of him pounding his face and at the end when Peter says "I just want to kill you myself" to which the Goblin says "Thata boy". The Goblin wants Peter to be as violent as he is. It's what he's always wanted. He hates Peter the most when he's being kind...which makes sense as it's kindness that ultimately kills the Goblin side.
That was a huge creepy factor to the entire fight. He is LAUGHING as Peter is using his full strength to punch him and he's just laughing. And it's not just bc he's facing spider man. He's laughing bc he finally broke a spiderman mentally and made him snap. Goblin couldn't do it with his own spiderman so he did to one from another universe.
and he fight him and kill his aunt may and destroy the box and that make peter decide to tell strange make everyone forgot who peter parker he literally destroy him
This is what the MCU needs. Stakes. Drama. Intensity. Less talking hippos, more of this. It’s why Iron Man and Civil War are its best films. They were funny but also took the story seriously when they needed to. I hated Homecoming and Far From Home and had totally written off Watts as a director but damn when this third movie hits, it hits hard. The goblin scenes were perfect. Wish we’d gotten more doc ock on this level. But I’m so grateful they brought back one of the all time great villains of cinema and made him MORE menacing.
Can I ask why you hated the first two? I thought they had pretty good stakes and drama, the villain being the love interest’s dad was very personal, even on a more lowkey level, and how utterly beaten by Mysterio he was after the major illusions scene was rough. Not knocking your opinion, just wondering
@@alexcooke4856 I personally hated Homecoming because of how childish they make this Peter. Yeah I know he's a teenager but it gets to a point where its too much, then I couldn't even finish Far From Home because it was just so boring, cringey, and a romantic comedy not a Spider-Man movie.
@mailpaper7754 I mean feel like Spider-mans early comics when hes in high school just felt like cheesy romance stories with a superhero in it so it makes sense.
This threequel should've had just Kraven in it. But the idea of every veteran actor coming back needed to be in another Spider-Man trilogy all on its own (like a College Saga). Just so there can be more scenes, more comebacks and more character interactions.
Canon Event Tobey Spiderman : Lost Uncle Ben and Harry Osborne Andrew Spiderman : Lost Uncle Ben and Gwen Stacy Tom Spiderman : Lost Tony Stark and Aunt May
Correction : Tom's spidey lost Uncle Ben, Tony Stark and Aunt May. And yes we count Tony as one of his losses because he was like a father figure to Spider Man in the MCU
*"The* *hardest* *thing* *about* *this* *job* *is,* *you* *can't* *always* *save* *everybody"* Spider-Ham was right, and Peter (Tom) had to learn that the hard way
In the Love & Capes webcomic which is a somewhat idealistic nod to Marvel and DC's heroes that's brought up in a storyarc for the Superman expy's then GF and later wife. She gains superpowers like his via magic to know what his life is like and they'll stick as long as she wants to keep them because the spell is fueled by her love for him. While Crusader (Superman expy) and Darkblade (Batman expy) are talking Darkblade brings up that thing (meaning not being able to save everybody) and Crusader's adamant that doesn't have to happen, until of course it does happen and she can't save everyone after an Earthquake causes a bridge collapse and she can't save everyone. She quickly loses the powers while talking to Crusader because she doesn't think she can deal with that part of being a superhero.
I love in this scene, how Spider Man can sense how huge a threat the Riblin is. He just doesn't know it yet, and all his senses are desperately trying to warn him -
This Goblin has a much higher body count in the OG Sam Raimi Spider-Man film and yet, the impact feels more real in this one. He’s so much more aggressive and sadistic in this movie, it’s legitimately terrifying.
It is kinda weird how strong Green Goblin is... In Spider Man (2002) , he kicked the shit out of Tobey , and here he kicked the shit out of Holland brutally ! Speaking of strength , Spider man is very strong , so how strong is the Goblin !!
Norman Osborn tested a performance-enhancing serum on himself in a gas chamber which gave him an 800% increase in strength and was able to hold a 11 ton Ariel tramway with one arm and tear through tobey’s organic webbing which was stated to be as strong as steel.
Because they are still holding back as much as they could. They wanted to hit hard to a stronger opponets but not until the point they could kill them. When tobey spiderman stops holding back during they last fight. Goblin was unable to overpowered him.
@@spiderxparker_ I feel like he'd need a much higher strength increase than 800%. 800x maybe, but 800% is not going to allow a human to hold 11 tons or rip apart steel.
Spider-Man is strong enough to stop a moving train going at full speed. Spider webs strong enough to break concrete. The goblin treated those webs like they made of paper. That moving train is in the realm of Wonder Woman. Some of those acts are in the realm of Superman.
@@lxsagi9126 Well... to be fair at the end, SM didnt hold back anymore... punch him 3-4 times and Goblin didnt bleed one bit... and after that you look at Tom face, with scars, blood and scratch all over his face... Goblin needed to be strong and durable to hold a bloodlust spider-man and if you look at the end, the goblin is pretty much clean... no blood, nothing. Impressive at least.
NEVER .. i felt this is a 22 year old villain from a different universe talking... so well was the acting and the writing! The green goblin here is more sinister than what Toby had to face
I like how doc ock, goblin and the OG Peter Parker come back 2 decades later in this movie and literally fuck shit up like it was 2002 again. Literally mind boggling
I love Willem Dafoe in this. He plays the evil crazy characters so well, and you can tell he is having a blast. I also love the improvement on the Green Goblin's look. Showing his face was the best idea they could have had. Excellent movie!
His face without ANY Make up or ANYTHING looked PERFECT as Green Goblin... now imagine if they had made him turn Greenish due to his "Goblin" Side taking over. he would have been the Bar None PERFECT Movie Green Goblin..
He's literally cut out to play the joker. Its actually an absolute mystery how he hasn't been casted as him. Like R Downey JR as Iron man is what Willem Dafoe would be for Joker. Probably the closest we'll ever get to the comic Joker, hes literally like a real life version. Also Green Goblin and Joker are extremely similar in character and mannerisms, so if you done a deep fake with the Joker makeup over him, you would think hes genuinely acting as him.
@@PLUTOXGOATDefoe has already stated he didn’t wanna do Joker anymore once he got the Goblin role..By time the first Spider-Man came out the Joker character was at its lowest and wasn’t even featured in Batman movies during the 90s
i didnt. coz unlike 'the other' aunt may, she been in 2 film but dont really have presence (like it not really taken root). so third one simply use her demise for MC psychological impact
Only watched this film out of the newer marvel ones. Jus cos dafoe, Maguire and dock ock coming back. So I felt nothing when the woman who looks like Peter's older sister died
Sorry, but I was SO glad when they killed her. Finally we see a movie where it's the same as the other Spidermans but different, and I never liked her anyway.
i love how william dafoe ends up being the best villan of both spider mans, say what you will about mysterio, but the green goblin knows how to hit it personal and the fact that he technically almost killed tobeys aunt may and that this time he actually suceeded in doing it, he almost broke peter parker and without the other peters to help him the green goblin would of turned him into a monster like him
Iv seen all the mcu on Disney+ and I felt that this third spiderman movie was more about spiderman fighting his demons. They weren't world ending events more like demons unleashed to destroy spiderman and everything around him
The one thing people wondered about goblins new armor is how the hell it got there. It's a simple answer. At one point during the fixing process Goblin took control of Norman and he built the upgrades to his armor little by little. Notice how he never once took that cloak off and we never saw anything beneath it up until Goblin attacked. Sneaky bastard. While everyone was distracted nobody saw him fiddling with the fabricator.
Peter in a room with four of his most classic and deadly villains, it's a wonder his Spider-sense wasn't going bonkers the whole time. Talks of rehabilitation not withstanding, they're still four dangerous characters
Because even Tom Spider-Man can beat all of them except Goblin..Goblin was the only real threat that’s why his Spidey senses didn’t start going crazy until Goblin entered
With the inhibitor chip intact, doc is not a villain im the slightest. Sandman isnt on fighting terms with peter at this time. Its really only electro and goblin, and I'm pretty sure electro has some sort of inhibitor on right now, its just goblin who'd be triggering it.
Notice there is no score as May gives her final wisdom to Peter... and only the lightest most somber music as she passes... then after she is gone the music becomes so much louder. I saw this in the theater and when everyone realized May was gonna die, people gasped, some cried. For me, I broke when Happy started screaming at Peter to run after cutting the cops off. I wept when the other Peters, MJ, and Ned found him atop that building. I lost myself when he found MJ in the Coffee Shop and gave up on his own heart because he couldn't think of a way to get her to believe let alone remember. This movie may be the best superhero movie of all time which is why I love it. It embodied the cost of doing the right thing in a very Kantian way....which is why I hate it. I pray Peter finds his way back to MJ...
What? Peter didn’t give up his own heart because he couldn’t figure a way to tell MJ. He was going to tell her, then MJ brushed her hair to the side revealing the bandage on her forehead. When Peter asked if she’s okay, MJ said that “it doesn’t hurt anymore”. At that point Peter realized that she got hurt for being with him, and Ned and MJ forgetting about him is actually the best way to protect them, so he smiled and walked away in the end.
This scene is proof that it’s one of the greatest Spider-Man movies, or rather the best Tom Holland Spider-Man movies even without Tobey and Andrew, like they didn’t even need to be in this and it would of been great.
The only Unlikely Non-MCU character that I truly cared about in this movie is Dr. Octopus. Is because that he is the only character out of the 5 Villains from the past Spider-Man who does have a very good storyline from start to finish. Where he is truly fish out of water and he is the only one who known about the MCU World for a short period of the time. And he is truly the only good character that I can trust in this film who did found a way to redeem himself the most.
I imagine Willem Dafoe might have said this during the negotiations: "Sure, I'd like play Norman Osborn again. I only have a few conditions, namely I get to do my own stunts and I don't wear a mask most of the time."
Loved this movie cuz Peter finally got a reality check and not everything is all fun and games. Now we start to get a more mature Spider-Man who understands that actions have consequences
That's very common after accidents. The adrenaline makes you feel little to no pain and you walk away thinking you're fine, but it turns out you aren't. I've seen it in myself when I walked away from an accident with my arm broken and didn't notice it until several minutes later, and I've also known of many more extreme cases.
5:02 Goblin slammed down Spiderman with only his weight, without any Superman like powers just with his weight and somehow penetrated 3 concrete floors like they're made out of cardboard... they really didn't bother with immersion.
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Just love how easily dafoe slips back into the role of goblin. Like he was literally born for this role.
He is also born to be the Joker. But, doesn’t get the role.
@@TheGianLimHe literally said Green Goblin was his favorite role.
Amazing acting by Dafoe. Made me hate his guts.
For real this was the best Goblin to date imo
This was the role that got me to like Willem Dafoe
I love the fact that Goblin taking over was such a huge threat his spider sense immediately went haywire.
Yeah his spider sense is kicked off even more intensely than Dr ock appearing at the bridge wrecking havoc. Tho I suppose the fact that goblins change was unseen makes it even more creepy.
This was the first time Holland's Spidey sensed pure evil.
@@unkennyvalley287and how peter cant pinpoint where its coming from at first, just that he knows something is wrong. such an awesomely cool scene
@@xzyxyzt00 like, seriously wrong.
I came to comment this exact thing. The fact that Goblin’s presence is such an oppressive force of evil is crazy and is so nostalgic to the very first Tobey Spiderman movie. I remember watching that as a kid and the Goblin was terrifying he was just a malevolent force of murder and mayhem. He tortured Aunt May in that movie with the Hail Mary scene and of course there’s the events of this movie where he shows how evil he really is.
This is the proof that Willem Dafoe as the green goblin is the ultimate villian of spiderman. His voice, his presence and his determination are so menacing. And he was responsible of two Peter Parkers becoming spiderman by attacking their hearts
One good movie and one good actor is all it takes to improve a character. I'm not saying green goblin wasn't a big deal, but iron man was a only a b lister until RDJ upgraded him so much because of iron man 1.
Defoe's Green Goblin is one of the best comicbook movie villains. He was killed off too quickly in the original Spider-Man movie. Bringing him back wasn't just nostalgia - it was genius.
@@thudthud5423 Goblin is solo villain. It was good move to kill him in particular in first movie. Its not like he was any other marvel villain - he actually had good run during his movie, great duel and great death. Even his death made impact that lasted in Peters life until the end of S3 with Harry trying to pick up goblin mantle. Goblin still was Peters main enemy, even from the grave after he was long dead - he still haunted him.
@@thudthud5423they brought him back in little cameos in Spiderman 2
This is the movie that taught me how Goblin is basically the Marvel's equavelent of The Joker.
He's evil to the core, doesn't care a wit about anyone or anything else including himself, and wants only
chaos and this self-fulfillment through these evil deeds, and only wanting to see the protagonist and their ideals shatter into pieces, mentally breaking them at the end
It's a hundred times better that Dafoe broke the goblin mask so he could do some facial acting this time to show how menacing Goblin is.
Lol
Definitely wish he wore the mask a least have the movie or just a lot me but you’re entitled to your opinion of course.
@TiychristianJohnson I think the mask is cool, no mistake.
I think the mask was great in the original movie and putting a screen over its mouth to see Defoe "evil-talking" behind it was a good move. Keeping him in the green armor in this movie and having him collected a purple hoodie was a slick move to get him into a more comicbook accurate look. But, as you said, Defoe's face and expressions made a great if not superior "mask".
He did get to do his crazy faces plenty of times in Spider-Man tho
"Strong enough to have it all, too weak to take it" I fucking love this quote.
That’s my favorite thing Goblin says out of all the things he says in both the original film and in this one.
Goblin thought spidey was Hulk or something 😂😂
@@DEVIL-yf3bnare you dumb? Spidey is really fucking strong
What does he mean by that
@@La.2blea.ivan04that pepole with such powers like them can have evrything they want and take over the world,but peter is "too weak" and refuses,just like he said to tobey in Spiderman 1
_"Gods don't have to choose... We take."_
Such an awesome villain quote. You know Max can't resist the temptation
I have a feeling they could have been talked out of it instead of taking the powers away :(
A god named sparkles?
They did their homework. Cutting to Max while Norman said that was perfect.
"I'll be like a god to them..."
Morning
I love how oppressive and suffocating goblin is to Peter during their first fight, giving him no room to recover and standing unflinching to his Peter's attacks. Really makes you go "oh no..."
"Strong enough to have it all.............TOO WEAK TO TAKE IT!!"
Yeah, it really elevated the fight and played into Goblin showing Peter why his morality was his weakness. Bro kept beating the shit out of him. No pause, no rest, just a merciless beat down to enforce that feeling of powerlessness.
It was so reminiscent of goblin’s fight against Tobey’s Spider-Man in the Raimi movie as well - when he uses the Tram and civilians to fight him and then throws a bomb in his face no warning or nothing then proceeds to beat the shit out of him as well.
He only stops to give his villainous monologue and to revel in Peter’s misery.
This fight really shows you how much Peter holds back
@@hagoromootsutski9058 No their final fight in the old church was off the hook.
DaFoe is really the perfect foe
No he’s not
Nick magazine had an article for the first spider man movie titled,
“Meet Dafoe”
He is da foe
WOULD BE THE
((((PERFECT))))
....JOKER....
@@pomps2003 your opinion will matter once you get more likes than OP
It's ironic, when Goblin said "i'm gonna fix you" he really did fix Peter, but not the way he wanted, by killing his aunt he basically made him become Spider-Man towards the end XD
Maybe that's the way he wanted. Because The goblin needs a fully mature Spider-Man.
@@Sergioz2ul7no… he clearly wants to hurt him.
@@Liry1 Like the Joker to Batman
Why because it’s canon
What do you mean by "he basically made him become Spider-Man towards the end"? Peter Parker has always been Spider-Man since Civil War, what are you talking about?
Who's ever idea it was to give Electro more power through an arc reactor deserves a raise.
Foreal it’s genius.
Goblin was awesome. I loved the purple hoodie too. Its cool to see Willem Dafoe's face when he acts as the Green Goblin.
Really good choice, dafoe is scarier than then regular goblin face
@@halo3isawsome321 Even scarier than Darth Sidious in my opinion as well.
WHEN MAY STUCK
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Those wild facial expressions damn.
@AmericanUNCENSORED This is the movie and role that got me into Willem Dafoe so I give this film a ton of credit for getting me to better know an actor like him.
This was one of the most Spider-Man things I have ever seen. Peter having all of his biggest villians in an apartment behaving civil for once to try to help them until it all goes out of control. Its like a whacky scenario that you would see in one of his comic issues. And ofcourse the fight sequences are very well thought out and true to Spidey's style of fighting.
Nailed it
🎯
The Lizard scene where he says "and so it begins" really bugged me at first. I thought the whole thing was staged at first and that they planned at a certain time to begin the fight. Now I think what makes more sense is Lizard, like Peter, has a sensing ability. So Lizard sensed Goblin and knew a fight was about to ensue.
He may have also just noticed that more and more people were gathering around the building and knew that it was going to escalate from there.
@@maxdoles5806 Ohhh good point. Wish the movie made it clear. I got confused so many times throughout the film.
Yeah because dude has animal instincts like an actual lizard
I with you because it didn’t make sense
@@DTCAllOver Like Lizard was calm and peaceful. Why did he then join in on the fight and throw Peter to Goblin lol
Goblin was insanely strong. Shows how powerful the maguire spiderman is.
Naw fr and ppl say that tom is stronger is cap cs tom would lose to vemon
I dislike how people keep claiming Tom is stronger. Like, let each Spiderman have their own thing. Tom already is the super genius with Stark Tech, he doesn't need to be the best at strength, speed, agility, and everything else.
@@Here_is_Waldo ha ing tech has nothing to do with sheer strength. Maguire definitely was the strongest
@@carloscallins7846Tom is clearly stronger this feats are superior
Bully stopped an entire moving train singlehanded. He strong fa’sho
Vulture attacked peter physically, Mysterio attacked his mind, but Goblin went straight for the heart. He didnt even hesitant. The true antagonist to every Spider-Man. And he wasn't even first canonically (in the comics)
More like thanos attack Peter body and mind but goblin, he attack Peter heart.
@@鄧焯文 he fought thanos for like 3 seconds. he doesn't count
“The HEART, Osborn! First, we attack his heart…”
Ehh, being first doesn't always equal a arch-nemesis so I wouldn't even mention that tbh
"THE HEART, OSBORN!"
Having Goblin no sell spider mans strikes and laughing in his face was brilliant. Having him show no pain and just loving the conflict is terrifying. This rework of Goblin has to be the best depiction so far
What makes this special and interesting to watch is that Peter had no idea that the goblin was just a next level problem.
Yep, he's genuinely like "He's going to kill me"
the one time Tom Hollands spiderman had a real actual villian
Bringing William Defoe's Green Goblin back is the best decision Marvel has ever made.
They did it because Disney knows their own versions of Goblin and Doc Ock would suck compared to Sam Raimi's.
@@KenMasters. i prefer the original Raimi Suit with the iconic mask
@@andreasboose5611
I didn't, it made him look like a Power Rangers villain, Gobby is supposed to be grotesque.
He is much more frightening without the mask, him wearing green Joker-type war paint would be good enough.
Deadpool aka Marvel Jesus
@@KenMasters.Yeah yeah yeah, Power Rangers. Keep that complaint back in 2002. It's goofy.
The only problem with the helmet is that it hides Willem Dafoe's incredible facial acting. I think No Way Home did a good compromise by having the helmet be present in the movie, but be destroyed early on.
5:00 i still can’t get over this move
Same here
I come just for this
Shit was vicious, devious, and diabolical
It’s a gorilla press spine buster it’s a wrestling move
Chills
Goblin really just showed up in another universe, saw a Spider-Man, and immediately decided to ruin his life.
Aunt May's final words weren't for concern about herself, but concern about Peter. She asked if he was okay when his hand was revealed to be all bloody. She honestly believed he was the one who was hurt and her concern was for his safety, when she lay there dying. Little wonder her death shook Peter as hard as it did.
She’s also his mom. That’s gonna hurt
@@jrwitherite12Technically she was his aunt, but definitely a motherly figure just like Uncle Ben was to the other Peters
As someone who had to watch his father figures die in front of him. It indeed shakes you. You're never the same after it happens. Especially 4 times within the same month
The qoute was badly delivered though
I really like how they made it, so the purple hoodie Norman was wearing before is torn up and is the purple part of his original comic design.
At 4:22 😂😂😂😂 the way he was smiling. They def need to make this next spider man ground level.
"Gods dont have to choose...
We Take"
I remember the chills I got in the theater
till this day still gives me chills.
I don't get it
@@Carlos-nz3vi its a callback about the monologue he gave to Spider-Man (tobey) in the first 2002 movie,the lesson about what it matters is power and that the way of the hero is useless bc ppl will never accept it, they rather prefer to see a hero/die/fall bc is more Easy,with that monologue goblin states that he and Spider-Man are "gods" to these people and they should be the ones teachin them lessons
Profound scene. What a character Defoe played.
What’s crazy is although people didn’t like how May said the famous quote said by Stan Lee, she actually said it verbatim. “With great power, there also must come great responsibility” is the full quote and Marissa Tomey killed it. It also kills me that when she saw blood she asked what happened like Pete was hurt, only thinking of others till the very end. Such a great scene
Voltaire originally said that
4:20 that was an awesome laugh
Perfect enough for a haunted movie style
Yeah, the grin and laugh while Peter is slugging away at him, one of my favorite bits.
Hard to believe this is Disney.
@@yukijadenfilms3425This isn’t Disney, this is Marvel.
@@TronicSSJ07which is under disney lmao
I love how Octavius stays sane and good, and doesn’t turn on Peter like everyone else. He even saves Electro at the end. Fantastic.
Well yeah, Peter already cured the problem with Ock's brain chip, so the arms weren't controlling him anymore.
My two favorite parts to the Goblin was when he's laughing as Peter is on top of him pounding his face and at the end when Peter says "I just want to kill you myself" to which the Goblin says "Thata boy". The Goblin wants Peter to be as violent as he is. It's what he's always wanted. He hates Peter the most when he's being kind...which makes sense as it's kindness that ultimately kills the Goblin side.
That was a huge creepy factor to the entire fight. He is LAUGHING as Peter is using his full strength to punch him and he's just laughing.
And it's not just bc he's facing spider man. He's laughing bc he finally broke a spiderman mentally and made him snap.
Goblin couldn't do it with his own spiderman so he did to one from another universe.
So basically the joker
Norman? Norman’s on sabbatical honeyyyy…
The hell? 🤣🤣🤣
Goblin was more menacing in this movie because he fought spider man before, but this Spider man never fought him before.
and he fight him and kill his aunt may and destroy the box and that make peter decide to tell strange make everyone forgot who peter parker he literally destroy him
The goblin might be the only villain that scares me
He can hide behind Norman, who is a fundamentally decent, if flawed, man, then attack at the most vulnerable point
If you noticed Sandman didn't attack anybody. He never sided with the Green Goblin
Not in this scene. But he literally tries to drown Toby inside the Statue of Liberty.
So why does he run
That's because Sandman was not actually in the movie. They took portions of Spiderman 2 and essentially videoshopped it. The actor never filmed.
He sided with green goblin because his power is the only way to sae his daughter
Sandman/ Flint Marko sided with himself.
This is what the MCU needs. Stakes. Drama. Intensity. Less talking hippos, more of this. It’s why Iron Man and Civil War are its best films. They were funny but also took the story seriously when they needed to.
I hated Homecoming and Far From Home and had totally written off Watts as a director but damn when this third movie hits, it hits hard. The goblin scenes were perfect. Wish we’d gotten more doc ock on this level. But I’m so grateful they brought back one of the all time great villains of cinema and made him MORE menacing.
Can I ask why you hated the first two? I thought they had pretty good stakes and drama, the villain being the love interest’s dad was very personal, even on a more lowkey level, and how utterly beaten by Mysterio he was after the major illusions scene was rough. Not knocking your opinion, just wondering
@@alexcooke4856 I personally hated Homecoming because of how childish they make this Peter. Yeah I know he's a teenager but it gets to a point where its too much, then I couldn't even finish Far From Home because it was just so boring, cringey, and a romantic comedy not a Spider-Man movie.
@@mailpaper7754you have bad taste
@@masonwright7700 "taste" is a bad choice of word, not all people want to watch a teenager grow up.
@mailpaper7754 I mean feel like Spider-mans early comics when hes in high school just felt like cheesy romance stories with a superhero in it so it makes sense.
Still can't believe that we got a movie with all 3 Spider-Man.
This threequel should've had just Kraven in it.
But the idea of every veteran actor coming back needed to be in another Spider-Man trilogy all on its own (like a College Saga).
Just so there can be more scenes, more comebacks and more character interactions.
Just wish they could have at least included a cameo to the original TV live-action version.
@@shadizersilverhand2113
He would probably be the Uncle Ben type figure of the four Spideys.
Goblin is a straight menace. He killed Spider-man’s aunt and said “You can thank me later 😎”
Canon Event
Tobey Spiderman : Lost Uncle Ben and Harry Osborne
Andrew Spiderman : Lost Uncle Ben and Gwen Stacy
Tom Spiderman : Lost Tony Stark and Aunt May
Not really everyone lost Tony stark. Tom Spiderman just lost aunt May
Correction : Tom's spidey lost Uncle Ben, Tony Stark and Aunt May. And yes we count Tony as one of his losses because he was like a father figure to Spider Man in the MCU
@@isomericgamer6644tony stark have shadow of Richard Parker and ben parker
@@isomericgamer6644and by the end of this movie he lost his best friend and his best girl.
@@fishfingers4483not everyone because people like Christine Everhart hate tony stark more than love him
Goblin is right, the Spidey Sense really is something else. It can literally sense pure evil.
*"The* *hardest* *thing* *about* *this* *job* *is,* *you* *can't* *always* *save* *everybody"*
Spider-Ham was right, and Peter (Tom) had to learn that the hard way
In the Love & Capes webcomic which is a somewhat idealistic nod to Marvel and DC's heroes that's brought up in a storyarc for the Superman expy's then GF and later wife. She gains superpowers like his via magic to know what his life is like and they'll stick as long as she wants to keep them because the spell is fueled by her love for him. While Crusader (Superman expy) and Darkblade (Batman expy) are talking Darkblade brings up that thing (meaning not being able to save everybody) and Crusader's adamant that doesn't have to happen, until of course it does happen and she can't save everyone after an Earthquake causes a bridge collapse and she can't save everyone. She quickly loses the powers while talking to Crusader because she doesn't think she can deal with that part of being a superhero.
I love in this scene, how Spider Man can sense how huge a threat the Riblin is.
He just doesn't know it yet, and all his senses are desperately trying to warn him -
The riblin strikes fear into his enemies
Riblin
Riblin
Riblin
Riblin
4:09 like really, dayyymn that's the best and most villanous qoute i've ever heard, not even Thanos can top that
All that high, 616-tech and the Goblin still outmuscles them all.
In the theaters goblin punches were like thunder strikes. Truly made us feel how fkin powerful Goblin is.
Sound effects are a mf
so were peters at the end.
When electro said “ the hell “ 🤣🤣
hes black asf
Jamie Foxx’s delivery of that line was gold.
Laughing while getting punched in the face, then powerbombing Spidey through 5 whole floors. That's a Supervillain right there.
This Goblin has a much higher body count in the OG Sam Raimi Spider-Man film and yet, the impact feels more real in this one. He’s so much more aggressive and sadistic in this movie, it’s legitimately terrifying.
Its so baffling to me that May just saw peter get suplexed like 7-8 stories and she’s like “yeah imma beat goblin with a metal stick” lol
It's overwhelming to see how Peter hits the green goblin's head without stopping... and the goblin just laughs in a crazy way, it's badass.
It is kinda weird how strong Green Goblin is... In Spider Man (2002) , he kicked the shit out of Tobey , and here he kicked the shit out of Holland brutally ! Speaking of strength , Spider man is very strong , so how strong is the Goblin !!
Norman Osborn tested a performance-enhancing serum on himself in a gas chamber which gave him an 800% increase in strength and was able to hold a 11 ton Ariel tramway with one arm and tear through tobey’s organic webbing which was stated to be as strong as steel.
Because they are still holding back as much as they could. They wanted to hit hard to a stronger opponets but not until the point they could kill them. When tobey spiderman stops holding back during they last fight. Goblin was unable to overpowered him.
@@spiderxparker_ I feel like he'd need a much higher strength increase than 800%. 800x maybe, but 800% is not going to allow a human to hold 11 tons or rip apart steel.
Spider-Man is strong enough to stop a moving train going at full speed. Spider webs strong enough to break concrete. The goblin treated those webs like they made of paper. That moving train is in the realm of Wonder Woman. Some of those acts are in the realm of Superman.
@@lxsagi9126 Well... to be fair at the end, SM didnt hold back anymore... punch him 3-4 times and Goblin didnt bleed one bit... and after that you look at Tom face, with scars, blood and scratch all over his face... Goblin needed to be strong and durable to hold a bloodlust spider-man and if you look at the end, the goblin is pretty much clean... no blood, nothing. Impressive at least.
Goblin tore Peter up. Lol
Defoes acting was really excellent and enjoyable. I believed his performance
Despite not having the mask, i feel Goblin’s mannerisms and facial expressions were expressed to the absolute point
The Goblin-mask back in 2002 made him look too silly, like a Power Rangers villain.
He's better without it.
NEVER .. i felt this is a 22 year old villain from a different universe talking... so well was the acting and the writing! The green goblin here is more sinister than what Toby had to face
This was one of the most terrifying scenes in the entire MCU
The first movie in this trilogy that actually felt like a Spider-Man movie
There is only two good types of characters in the entire Spider-Man Home Trilogy in general:
The main villain and the OG characters, no one else.
I like how doc ock, goblin and the OG Peter Parker come back 2 decades later in this movie and literally fuck shit up like it was 2002 again. Literally mind boggling
6:26 Goblin cuts off Daily Bugle's van antenna,I like that detail
I love Willem Dafoe in this. He plays the evil crazy characters so well, and you can tell he is having a blast. I also love the improvement on the Green Goblin's look. Showing his face was the best idea they could have had. Excellent movie!
Crazy Dafoe's Green Goblin became the main villain for two generations of spiderman and friggin' brilliant at that!
That damned belly to back suplex through 7 floors was beautiful 😂
Dude seing spider and goblin destroying a build down with they bare hands is crazy!
"You can thank me later"...just sends chills down my spine.
Having Norman’s dark purple hoodie get torn up into the Goblin’s cloak from the comics was absolutely brilliant!
His face without ANY Make up or ANYTHING looked PERFECT as Green Goblin... now imagine if they had made him turn Greenish due to his "Goblin" Side taking over. he would have been the Bar None PERFECT Movie Green Goblin..
See you right there. That’s why I think he would make a fantastic joker.
He's literally cut out to play the joker. Its actually an absolute mystery how he hasn't been casted as him. Like R Downey JR as Iron man is what Willem Dafoe would be for Joker. Probably the closest we'll ever get to the comic Joker, hes literally like a real life version.
Also Green Goblin and Joker are extremely similar in character and mannerisms, so if you done a deep fake with the Joker makeup over him, you would think hes genuinely acting as him.
@@PLUTOXGOATDefoe has already stated he didn’t wanna do Joker anymore once he got the Goblin role..By time the first Spider-Man came out the Joker character was at its lowest and wasn’t even featured in Batman movies during the 90s
I hate this trope but damn he’d make a fantastic joker. He so damn intimidating.
I hate this trope but damn he’d make a fantastic joker. He so damn intimidating.
This is what happens when you don’t listen to Dr. Strange
Man this was such a cool movie to see in theaters. Everyone got goosebumps when the goblin revealed himself.
There are two types of people.
Those who cried when Aunt May died, and liars.
i didnt. coz unlike 'the other' aunt may, she been in 2 film but dont really have presence (like it not really taken root). so third one simply use her demise for MC psychological impact
Only watched this film out of the newer marvel ones. Jus cos dafoe, Maguire and dock ock coming back. So I felt nothing when the woman who looks like Peter's older sister died
This Aunt Mat sucks so I didn't care, I was just surprised someone actually died in these movies; there was actually stakes.
call me a liar all you want but i had no attachment to this aunt may whatsoever
Sorry, but I was SO glad when they killed her. Finally we see a movie where it's the same as the other Spidermans but different, and I never liked her anyway.
This was the moment the Tom Holland movies felt less like a Disney Spiderman film like the first 2. We need more violence in the MCU
4:21 Bro this never fails to give me goosebumps. Chills bro
Those events make Peter even more compatible with the Venom symbiote that stayed in the MCU.
Was there one that stayed?? I didn't know that, when do you see one stays? It's been a while since I watched NWH so I might have forgotten.
Anyone else felt Peter’s frustration when Goblin started laughing at his punches?
6:07 Biggest missed opportunity ever to say "Peter, Peter, pumkin eater" and toss a pumpkin bomb. DAMMIT MARVEL
i love how william dafoe ends up being the best villan of both spider mans, say what you will about mysterio, but the green goblin knows how to hit it personal and the fact that he technically almost killed tobeys aunt may and that this time he actually suceeded in doing it, he almost broke peter parker and without the other peters to help him the green goblin would of turned him into a monster like him
if Green Goblin has its own movie, Williem Dafoe definitely winning the Oscar
Iv seen all the mcu on Disney+ and I felt that this third spiderman movie was more about spiderman fighting his demons. They weren't world ending events more like demons unleashed to destroy spiderman and everything around him
The movie is basically Tom Spider-Man turning into a REAL HERO and not just being Spider-Man
4:21 This shot and the accompanying music is horrifying. I feel like I've seen this in a nightmare before.
The one thing people wondered about goblins new armor is how the hell it got there.
It's a simple answer. At one point during the fixing process Goblin took control of Norman and he built the upgrades to his armor little by little. Notice how he never once took that cloak off and we never saw anything beneath it up until Goblin attacked.
Sneaky bastard. While everyone was distracted nobody saw him fiddling with the fabricator.
Damn. Never noticed.
Goblin doing Bill Goldberg's signature Spine buster though the floors is the best scene of the goddamn movie 😂
You tried to fix me. Now im gonna fix you. 💪🏽
The way Green Goblin just ruthlessly beats Peter in hand-to-hand combat shows how strong he really is.
Peter in a room with four of his most classic and deadly villains, it's a wonder his Spider-sense wasn't going bonkers the whole time. Talks of rehabilitation not withstanding, they're still four dangerous characters
Because even Tom Spider-Man can beat all of them except Goblin..Goblin was the only real threat that’s why his Spidey senses didn’t start going crazy until Goblin entered
With the inhibitor chip intact, doc is not a villain im the slightest. Sandman isnt on fighting terms with peter at this time. Its really only electro and goblin, and I'm pretty sure electro has some sort of inhibitor on right now, its just goblin who'd be triggering it.
6:09 dude looked like a crackhead on a glider lmfao
The Goblin serum is in fact a drug.
You're both right
Notice there is no score as May gives her final wisdom to Peter... and only the lightest most somber music as she passes... then after she is gone the music becomes so much louder.
I saw this in the theater and when everyone realized May was gonna die, people gasped, some cried. For me, I broke when Happy started screaming at Peter to run after cutting the cops off. I wept when the other Peters, MJ, and Ned found him atop that building. I lost myself when he found MJ in the Coffee Shop and gave up on his own heart because he couldn't think of a way to get her to believe let alone remember.
This movie may be the best superhero movie of all time which is why I love it. It embodied the cost of doing the right thing in a very Kantian way....which is why I hate it. I pray Peter finds his way back to MJ...
Incredibly far from the best superhero movie. Lots of nostalgia pulling. Other than that it's OK nothing that great
What?
Peter didn’t give up his own heart because he couldn’t figure a way to tell MJ.
He was going to tell her, then MJ brushed her hair to the side revealing the bandage on her forehead. When Peter asked if she’s okay, MJ said that “it doesn’t hurt anymore”. At that point Peter realized that she got hurt for being with him, and Ned and MJ forgetting about him is actually the best way to protect them, so he smiled and walked away in the end.
"We dont you to save us..WE DON'T NEED TO BE FIXED!". I like the voice infection without yelling
Sadly it seems that good men as well as good heroes are shaped by those they have lost and that loss alone
This scene is proof that it’s one of the greatest Spider-Man movies, or rather the best Tom Holland Spider-Man movies even without Tobey and Andrew, like they didn’t even need to be in this and it would of been great.
The only Unlikely Non-MCU character that I truly cared about in this movie is Dr. Octopus. Is because that he is the only character out of the 5 Villains from the past Spider-Man who does have a very good storyline from start to finish. Where he is truly fish out of water and he is the only one who known about the MCU World for a short period of the time. And he is truly the only good character that I can trust in this film who did found a way to redeem himself the most.
This movie should be called Willem Defoe featuring other actors
I imagine Willem Dafoe might have said this during the negotiations:
"Sure, I'd like play Norman Osborn again. I only have a few conditions, namely I get to do my own stunts and I don't wear a mask most of the time."
To think that this is the first time we see Green Goblin since 2002 is insane
I guess we don’t count that mess in Amazing Spider-Man 2…?
@@BlanketMan No that wasn't even Dafoe lol
honestly. william defoe carried this movie
I like this scene, how the spider-sense is depicted, how the goblin talks like magneto, that’s some really good stuff for this movie who needs more
Perfect Joker performance from DaFoe.
Loved this movie cuz Peter finally got a reality check and not everything is all fun and games. Now we start to get a more mature Spider-Man who understands that actions have consequences
Goblins laugh is up there with Mark Hamill's Joker laugh for me.
5:01 is when I lost it in the theater.
William Defriend's manical laughter is a masterpiece!🎉🎉
Willem Dafoe was BORN to play
Green Goblin,
And you will never change my mind
on that
6:43 Anyone else laugh when aunt may gets up every time like no way she could’ve survived that.
That's the thing, she didn't. The adrenaline at the moment must be pretty high
That's very common after accidents. The adrenaline makes you feel little to no pain and you walk away thinking you're fine, but it turns out you aren't.
I've seen it in myself when I walked away from an accident with my arm broken and didn't notice it until several minutes later, and I've also known of many more extreme cases.
5:02 Goblin slammed down Spiderman with only his weight, without any Superman like powers just with his weight and somehow penetrated 3 concrete floors like they're made out of cardboard... they really didn't bother with immersion.
Peter Parker: 145 lbs
Norman Osborn: 185 lbs. (385 lbs. when wearing Goblin-armour)
Laughing while get punched in the face by spiderman is absolutely diabolical