Just a suggestion from an old ER nurse- If at all possible, move out of your wilderness of choice into some kind of civilization before starting antibiotics. An allergic reaction while out in the boonies can make a bad day worse.
I agree, I would only use this kit if I wasn't able to get back to my doctor first. I wouldn't take these meds unless I had no other option. I have personally taken each of these particular antibiotics for one reason or another so I am familiar with each but I know your body's reaction can always change. Again, I think this kit would be a last resort in a scenario I hope I am never in. Thank you for sharing your thoughts!
Even more critical than antibiotics is a strong pain medication. At the last Wilderness Medical Conference, it was stated, by one of the more famous wilderness medical doctors.... you may not be able to solve every medical issue that occurs in the field, however you should be able to manage pain. A torn ACL for example, is extremely painful. A good pain medication may just allow you the ability to walk out with that kind of injury. Other extremely painful injuries need pain meds to take the edge off. Pain is immediate, where as antibiotics can usually wait for you to get back while shortening your trip. For decent pain meds, you certainly need a good relationship with a doctor that understands back country travel.
That would be a good thing to have for sure but quite difficult to get legally. In today's climate, doctors are VERY reluctant to prescribe RX pain meds due to misuse/abuse. 800 mg of Ibuprofin, 1000 mg of Tylenol (Acetaminophen) and a dose of Benedryl (diphenhydramine) has been used as a substitute and allowed for rest when pain is high. I am not a doctor but just sharing a simple OTC solution that has worked in the absence of other better alternatives. Thanks for tuning in and sharing!
@@blackhatbushcraft I never understood the reason for doctors prescribing mega doses of Tylenol or Ibuprofen. Just buy the normal or extra strength OTC ones and up the dosage to match the prescription! Helluva lot cheaper! I keep bottles of generic Benadryl in my camping packs. I get weird allergic reactions from time to time and I don't want to have one pop up in the wilds.
Thank you... I've often thought about meds to have "Just in Case" a person desperately needs them. Glad you addressed expiration dates, and which type would tend to keep their potencies longer... Good knowledge and understanding. You're the first TH-cam outdoorsman I have come across to breach the topic of antibiotics. Thank you!!
Good to know .. I had a tooth starting to absess this past weekend while out on a trip .,luckily it didn’t get out hand before I made it to the dentist today
Sorry to hear that Ken! Tooth pain is no joke! I hope it is all squared away. I think it is always the best plan to get to the doctor/dentist as a first resort and something like this kit would be a last resort or worst case tool to use. Thanks for tuning in!
Excellent idea! Also, some but not all pharmaceuticals are effective many years past their expiration date if stored properly. The military did some studies on this and I think the info can be found online.
You are correct Jack. They are definitely not all equal. I think that is something each person should do a little research on before depending on that as a strategy. Storage can also make a difference as well. Thanks for tuning in!
Thank you so much for those kind words brother! I appreciate you tuning in and commenting. These are some unsettling times for sure and any preparations towards being self reliant are wise I believe. Take care and be safe James!
I am allergic to cypro, had kidney infection and was prescribed it. 24 hours later i had a severe rash with little blisters around my lower abdomen front and back. Talk about painful. I am also allergic to MOST Painkillers as well. I tough out my headaches or other pain like when i had a broken ankle (broken in three places)i rather chew on Willow bark for my pain...
I’m not a big fan of people prescribing antibiotics for themselves. First, an allergic reaction in the field could cause big problems or even death. Second, fluoroquinolones - a class of antibiotics that includes the popular drug Cipro - carries a serious risk of tendon rupture, which would also be bad news in the field. Carrying a satellite device like a Garmin InReach for emergency evacuation or for consultation with medical professionals is a safer option for most people, IMHO. The need for antibiotics can be assessed once the person is out of immediate danger.
I totally get that. I have personally taken each of these meds previously for one reason or another so I am quite familiar with them. I also would say, I am not keeping these so that if something comes up I will take them first thing. I would go to my doctor and be diagnosed and prescribed meds if at all possible. This is for those times when the meds are critically needed and you are not able to get to the doctor. In the world we live in, those scenarios wouldn't be too difficult to imagine. I would again personally always opt to see my physician first if at all possible. That Garmin unit wouldn't be a bad investment either I agree :)
people should know their allergies and not take the ones that are unknown to them doesn't mean they can' have and take any. what happens if you don't take them? Not meant for people to be just willy nillie about taking them. Thats why you have to fill out the form about your medical history. I really doubt any of these come with fluoroquinolones????????? too specific
@@standingbear998 Cipro is a fluoroquinolone and is the most commonly used wide-spectrum antibiotic. And no, people don’t always know their allergies. I’ll just carry an emergency comms device, get out of the situation, and see a doctor. I really can’t think of many antibiotic “emergencies” (unless you have leukemia or something). People tend to overuse antibiotics and/or use them incorrectly anyway. But as always, talk to your doctor first, and you do you.
Great information something alot of people don't think about especially this day and age when things are going to be harder to get like you mentioned. I have heard of Jase medical but need to do more research on things I may need and the price is great when you really think about it and how this will work for you and can be done without Drs and hospital stays. Thank you for sharing. Great video as always brother 👍
Vary interesting. I'm going now to the site and read up on it. A great piece of kit for the multi day haul. Oh say.. are we any closer on the black hat bush blade?
Hi Corey, Absolutely better to have it on hand and not need it than to be in a pinch without it. As for the BHBB, yes indeed! It is about 2 to 3 weeks out according to William. I am excited! It will be at Ridgerunner Blades in NC. If you reach out to them now, you can request special handle material as they are currently in heat treat. There will be some beautiful knives but if you want custom scales and or liners of a certain color, now is the time to reach out. Ask for Jason at Ridgerunner. If you get one, I hope you enjoy it as much as I do! Take care and thanks for your interest!
It is definitely a seasonal class. They would need to be relatively close together since there is definitely a window of opportunity to find the most examples on the property. I agree with you though, it is a fun class and one I thoroughly enjoy.
Been seeing and studying this product a lot lately. The better half is looking at me like I’m nuts . I’ll turn her yet 😁 Wasn’t sure if it was going to be Black hat or Black Cap on this one . Thanks for the review. Have a great evening
My better half said the same John :) I say better to have and not need than to need and not have. God forbid a scenario ever arise that you need this but if it ever did, you would be the wisest man she knows 🙂 I wouldn't use these meds lightly, only if I couldn't get to medical care but in that scenario, this could literally save a life. Blame it on me buddy!
Excellent info, I found another company that the price was higher but does the same thing. I have been looking for something like this, especially if you get rocky mountain spotted fever or lymes disease you would wish you had this kit. Poison ivy is another one for me. I was going to talk to my regular doctor about doing this too. I will have to check them out.
Thank you Jeff! I have also considered talking to my doctor about this but the problem is insurance doesn't allow prescriptions proactively. I have personally at one time or another taken each of these medications so I am familiar with them. It wouldn't hurt to discuss it with your doctor either way. Take care!
Thank you Todd! I hope you are doing well brother. I do like it. It is well made and you can strap stuff on top or below so it adds some flexibility. It isn't a large pack really though. It makes a good day bag, or overnighter. If you are packing light it's good but in winter with extra clothes and insulation, it will get tight. Take care!
When you do your consultation before anything being prescribed, they will address all of that. They will prescribe meds based on your individual medical needs/history/allergies, etc. In your case, they may prescribe something in place of a med that you cannot take.
Hi Matt, luv your videos. This comment doesn't refer to this video. I had improved my Mora Eldris necklace knife. I think you might enjoy looking at it 🙂. Would like to see what you think.
Thank you for tuning in Daniel! All the meds have a one year expiration according to the label. That is pretty common with most prescriptions I get. Of course, expiration dates are artificial. Usually, (not always) they are VERY conservative. It is a good topic to research on. Take care!
Just a suggestion from an old ER nurse- If at all possible, move out of your wilderness of choice into some kind of civilization before starting antibiotics. An allergic reaction while out in the boonies can make a bad day worse.
I agree, I would only use this kit if I wasn't able to get back to my doctor first. I wouldn't take these meds unless I had no other option. I have personally taken each of these particular antibiotics for one reason or another so I am familiar with each but I know your body's reaction can always change. Again, I think this kit would be a last resort in a scenario I hope I am never in. Thank you for sharing your thoughts!
Even more critical than antibiotics is a strong pain medication. At the last Wilderness Medical Conference, it was stated, by one of the more famous wilderness medical doctors.... you may not be able to solve every medical issue that occurs in the field, however you should be able to manage pain. A torn ACL for example, is extremely painful. A good pain medication may just allow you the ability to walk out with that kind of injury. Other extremely painful injuries need pain meds to take the edge off. Pain is immediate, where as antibiotics can usually wait for you to get back while shortening your trip. For decent pain meds, you certainly need a good relationship with a doctor that understands back country travel.
That would be a good thing to have for sure but quite difficult to get legally. In today's climate, doctors are VERY reluctant to prescribe RX pain meds due to misuse/abuse. 800 mg of Ibuprofin, 1000 mg of Tylenol (Acetaminophen) and a dose of Benedryl (diphenhydramine) has been used as a substitute and allowed for rest when pain is high. I am not a doctor but just sharing a simple OTC solution that has worked in the absence of other better alternatives. Thanks for tuning in and sharing!
@@blackhatbushcraft I never understood the reason for doctors prescribing mega doses of Tylenol or Ibuprofen. Just buy the normal or extra strength OTC ones and up the dosage to match the prescription! Helluva lot cheaper! I keep bottles of generic Benadryl in my camping packs. I get weird allergic reactions from time to time and I don't want to have one pop up in the wilds.
Thank you... I've often thought about meds to have "Just in Case" a person desperately needs them. Glad you addressed expiration dates, and which type would tend to keep their potencies longer... Good knowledge and understanding. You're the first TH-cam outdoorsman I have come across to breach the topic of antibiotics. Thank you!!
Thank you so much for your kind words my friend and I am glad you found this helpful. I appreciate your time and interest. Take care and be safe.
Good to know .. I had a tooth starting to absess this past weekend while out on a trip .,luckily it didn’t get out hand before I made it to the dentist today
Sorry to hear that Ken! Tooth pain is no joke! I hope it is all squared away. I think it is always the best plan to get to the doctor/dentist as a first resort and something like this kit would be a last resort or worst case tool to use. Thanks for tuning in!
I can’t believe how much meds cost on the other side of the Pond…
Excellent idea! Also, some but not all pharmaceuticals are effective many years past their expiration date if stored properly. The military did some studies on this and I think the info can be found online.
You are correct Jack. They are definitely not all equal. I think that is something each person should do a little research on before depending on that as a strategy. Storage can also make a difference as well. Thanks for tuning in!
great video Matt glad to see you posted to your channel
Thank you so much Hiram! I appreciate you tuning in friend!
Love this video Matt! Awesome info! Keepin it real brother! God bless
Excellent video, I really like your editing and presentation style as well as the timely reminder of the importance of proper preparation! God bless!
Thank you so much for those kind words brother! I appreciate you tuning in and commenting. These are some unsettling times for sure and any preparations towards being self reliant are wise I believe. Take care and be safe James!
@@blackhatbushcraft You're welcome, brother!
I am allergic to cypro, had kidney infection and was prescribed it. 24 hours later i had a severe rash with little blisters around my lower abdomen front and back. Talk about painful.
I am also allergic to MOST Painkillers as well.
I tough out my headaches or other pain like when i had a broken ankle (broken in three places)i rather chew on Willow bark for my pain...
I’m not a big fan of people prescribing antibiotics for themselves. First, an allergic reaction in the field could cause big problems or even death. Second, fluoroquinolones - a class of antibiotics that includes the popular drug Cipro - carries a serious risk of tendon rupture, which would also be bad news in the field. Carrying a satellite device like a Garmin InReach for emergency evacuation or for consultation with medical professionals is a safer option for most people, IMHO. The need for antibiotics can be assessed once the person is out of immediate danger.
I totally get that. I have personally taken each of these meds previously for one reason or another so I am quite familiar with them. I also would say, I am not keeping these so that if something comes up I will take them first thing. I would go to my doctor and be diagnosed and prescribed meds if at all possible. This is for those times when the meds are critically needed and you are not able to get to the doctor. In the world we live in, those scenarios wouldn't be too difficult to imagine. I would again personally always opt to see my physician first if at all possible. That Garmin unit wouldn't be a bad investment either I agree :)
people should know their allergies and not take the ones that are unknown to them doesn't mean they can' have and take any. what happens if you don't take them? Not meant for people to be just willy nillie about taking them. Thats why you have to fill out the form about your medical history. I really doubt any of these come with fluoroquinolones????????? too specific
@@standingbear998 Cipro is a fluoroquinolone and is the most commonly used wide-spectrum antibiotic. And no, people don’t always know their allergies. I’ll just carry an emergency comms device, get out of the situation, and see a doctor. I really can’t think of many antibiotic “emergencies” (unless you have leukemia or something). People tend to overuse antibiotics and/or use them incorrectly anyway. But as always, talk to your doctor first, and you do you.
As always thanks for your time and info, stay safe and God bless 🙏😎
Thank you! Will check them out. Nice and close here in Utah.
Thank you Jim! I appreciate you tuning in.
Great information something alot of people don't think about especially this day and age when things are going to be harder to get like you mentioned. I have heard of Jase medical but need to do more research on things I may need and the price is great when you really think about it and how this will work for you and can be done without Drs and hospital stays. Thank you for sharing. Great video as always brother 👍
Vary interesting. I'm going now to the site and read up on it. A great piece of kit for the multi day haul. Oh say.. are we any closer on the black hat bush blade?
Hi Corey, Absolutely better to have it on hand and not need it than to be in a pinch without it. As for the BHBB, yes indeed! It is about 2 to 3 weeks out according to William. I am excited! It will be at Ridgerunner Blades in NC. If you reach out to them now, you can request special handle material as they are currently in heat treat. There will be some beautiful knives but if you want custom scales and or liners of a certain color, now is the time to reach out. Ask for Jason at Ridgerunner. If you get one, I hope you enjoy it as much as I do! Take care and thanks for your interest!
Great idea. Thank you for sharing this!
Really wish The Pathfinder School would offer the Wild Edibles more than once a year.
It is definitely a seasonal class. They would need to be relatively close together since there is definitely a window of opportunity to find the most examples on the property. I agree with you though, it is a fun class and one I thoroughly enjoy.
@@blackhatbushcraft I didn't buy quickly enough. Oh well, at least I'll be dying in the July heat w/ y'all in Basic Survival this year!
Great video Matt. Good advice!!
Great advice, thanks for the video!
Thanks for the information. I'm definitely going to look into this. Stay safe and God bless.
Thank you so much for tuning in Justin! I appreciate your time and interest and I hope this is helpful for you. Take care!
This is really good info to have and know about thanx for sharing this one im gonna look that company up God bless take care
Thank you so much George! I hope this works out for you! God bless you and yours and take care!
Been seeing and studying this product a lot lately. The better half is looking at me like I’m nuts . I’ll turn her yet 😁 Wasn’t sure if it was going to be Black hat or Black Cap on this one . Thanks for the review. Have a great evening
My better half said the same John :) I say better to have and not need than to need and not have. God forbid a scenario ever arise that you need this but if it ever did, you would be the wisest man she knows 🙂 I wouldn't use these meds lightly, only if I couldn't get to medical care but in that scenario, this could literally save a life. Blame it on me buddy!
Great info Matt 🤠
I definitely like your demo better than coalcracker's version!
Thanks, Matt. ATB Sam Adler from Vietnam
Great video great review. We all could use that kit. God bless. From Glenn CATT in Massachusetts.
Thank you so much Glenn! Blessings to you and yours my friend!
That's a great idea!!! Thanks for the video and information.
Absolutely Richard! Thank you so much for tuning in!
Excellent info, I found another company that the price was higher but does the same thing. I have been looking for something like this, especially if you get rocky mountain spotted fever or lymes disease you would wish you had this kit. Poison ivy is another one for me. I was going to talk to my regular doctor about doing this too. I will have to check them out.
Thank you Jeff! I have also considered talking to my doctor about this but the problem is insurance doesn't allow prescriptions proactively. I have personally at one time or another taken each of these medications so I am familiar with them. It wouldn't hurt to discuss it with your doctor either way. Take care!
Enjoyed...!! PS- how you like the little bergen daypack??
Thank you Todd! I hope you are doing well brother. I do like it. It is well made and you can strap stuff on top or below so it adds some flexibility. It isn't a large pack really though. It makes a good day bag, or overnighter. If you are packing light it's good but in winter with extra clothes and insulation, it will get tight. Take care!
has anyone done a lab analysis to find out the contents of the pills. It could very well be a placebo-style sugar pill.
That hat looks a little Brown, Matt. Watch out because Shawn is always looking for ammunition
This is very true! 😃 Thanks for tuning in!
you could have mentioned something about allergies, I am allergic to some antibiotics.
When you do your consultation before anything being prescribed, they will address all of that. They will prescribe meds based on your individual medical needs/history/allergies, etc. In your case, they may prescribe something in place of a med that you cannot take.
Awesome information and find!!!!! Thanks for sharing!
Thank you so much for tuning in and commenting brother! I appreciate your support!
Thank you for this! I'll look into it.
I hope it will be helpful for you Karen! Take care.
Pretty handy! Thanks, I'll look into this one.
I hope it is helpful to you Rob! Take care.
Hi Matt, luv your videos. This comment doesn't refer to this video. I had improved my Mora Eldris necklace knife. I think you might enjoy looking at it 🙂. Would like to see what you think.
Trying to get you a picture.
curious about those boots ?
Good to know, vary interesting. What's the shelf life on that order?
Thank you for tuning in Daniel! All the meds have a one year expiration according to the label. That is pretty common with most prescriptions I get. Of course, expiration dates are artificial. Usually, (not always) they are VERY conservative. It is a good topic to research on. Take care!
@@blackhatbushcraft Thanks Matt, I will check them out closer.
Im curious on what pack you use
This particular one is a Helikon Tex Bergen. It is a good traditional design with modern materials. It reminds me of an ALICE pack in many ways.
Good deal
Thanks for tuning in Chuck!
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I want to subscribe to your channel, but after watching two videos, it was clear that your narratives contained too many anecdotal stories.
Peace,✌