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Simple explanation. Isis and afiliates got strong selling that oil to the black market thru turkiye. No oil - no money for weapons - no isis or afiliates. Why? Cause assad, russia, iran etc all claim to have fought isis but none of them did, they went after isis when they had less weapons acess due to less funding cause usa took the oil fields. It's pretty simple, cause history didn't start yesterday 🤷♀️
@anonymoususer8895 probably those 900 people, are just wearing and imposing as us soldiers In us supposedly us bases in northeastern Syria Yeah it's probably some random people, acting as us soldiers
I think it's important to mention that a member not seeing eye to eye with NATO isn't just a Turkey thing, in the past decade France has multiple times take the opposite stance on NATO, the biggest example being the post-Gadhafi era in Libya where they supported a wanna be strong man and dictator Khalifah Haftar against both the UN and NATO.
The EU often uses discourse on democracy and human rights to criticize Turkey, especially its counter-terrorism policies. However, we see that EU countries are approving, even supporting, Israel's severe violations of the Geneva Convention in its attacks on Gaza. The statement by the Israeli Defence Minister, giving the Israeli army free rein to do whatever they want, has not even been criticized by the EU. The EU has lost all its credibility on democracy and human rights during the bombing of Gaza. From now on, if you criticize Turkey on counter-terrorism, the response you will get from the Turks will be "go to hell."
@@balporsugu2.0usa deciding what to send next is ten times more important than that useless strait in this land war. Then only thing clear is that turkey has no place in nato, their place is with Afghanistan, Iraq and iran, other countries that reason the same way.
@@Doge811 the OP used those term correctly, yes its a system that have nothing to do with human rights but both apply to israel current state, the EU didn't have the same comments when israel where having their own grab on power issues with the court reshape. second this isn't this or that, the west is hypocrite at leas the leaders on those issue and often use those term to justify their own national interests regardless if they have a point or not. a lot of people/nation wouldn't have to be with iran, iraq, afghanistan if the west would treated them like Ukraine, instead like Palestine. ethical national interest is something the west lack and while it seem there no rational need for it however that a short sighted view, there is a reason why we individually evolved to have ethics, because faking doesn't work for very long cracks form and the whole thing break at some point. look to the west now filled with people who dispose there own nation filled with resentment to the point of celebrating hamas killing civilian, or look at israel on the other hand how long can they keep that up and will it ever come back to bite them, what happen when EU follow the public will which often lag behind, its clear west is moving away from israel, but israel is moving no where stuck in the 80s, wasting time which better spent on rebranding its nation and rebuilding ties.
Dont speak for all Turks, not all Turks support terrorism and most support Israel's right to defend itself. As usually less civilised are the louder ones
@@Doge811Let us host the Syrians. Let America buy the oil there, irrelevantly. There is no such world. In this case, he should take people to his own country.
@@Doge811 Unlike the U.S., Türkiye has a 911km border with Syria. It has to secure this border for its domestic security. What would the Americans think if Türkiye set up bases in Mexico along the U.S. border, trained&armed terrorist groups that attack U.S. cities on a regular basis, and then brazenly claimed that it is there for lofty purposes?
@@Doge811 Baybe 6 million refugees and a active terrorist organisation in the borders give Turkey a right to intervene, also Turkey litterally has a right to intervene acording to Treaty of Lousanne.
@@Doge811 Max am rican 🧠. If stupidity was considered a crime in your country, you would have to build 10 times as many prisons as you currently have.
Imagine Kurds occupying Tajikistan and telling them they do not exist and forcing Kurdishness upon them. Imagine Kurds were fascists acting all entitled on other people's land.
@@sapphyrus YPG rule is secular and premised on equality. Turks can take their propaganda to the Xinjiang region and save their own people there. Kurdistan is not yours, never will be.
@@Magneticvortex-kk4gb YPG rule is communist dictatorship a la Pol Pot Cambodia. Turkey is a secular democratic country where Kurds and Turks live in peace.
@@Magneticvortex-kk4gbdon't make me laugh. They are literally militants. The only reason they seem like that to you is the influence the US has over them.
As a Turk I want to say this: I dont want terrorists in my country. And America is supporting this terrorist groups. ( Those groups have plans for us ) Btw there is no Turkish-Kurdish conflicts in Türkiye. We live with peace. Our problem is with terrorism!
@@dannyrasul2077 You are full of crap. Months ago some terrorists caused an explosion in Istanbul. Our country is fighting with terrorism for 40 years and America is supporting them. SO you are full of crap
In the Video it was forgotten to mention that turkey also hosts more than 3,5 million syrian refugees which were planned to be settled in the regions controlled by türkiye.
türkiye building homes for syrians in the region that they took from syria you may say'' but it makes no sense'' and I say yes it makes no sense but erdogan doesnt care about turks a lot, he cares about muslims and he trying to be ''leader of islam in 2thosunds' @@tiglishnobody8750
Im sorry but the map depicting kurdish majority areas are plagued with errors considering you marked the Tuz Golu as majority Kurdish alongside big chunks of Konya, Kirsehir and Ankara which are definetely not majority kurdish
Lots of info missed tbh. No mention of the Tigris & Euphrates starting in these Kurdish-Turkish areas which is why Erdogan is so interested in the area to begin with. Fresh water control of the Middle East is of great import, especially considering which countries these rivers flow towards. Control of resources/electricity gives geopolitical leverage for global issues.
The Map was for the Situation after the Ottoman Empire broke Apart as that was what the Video Explained when the Map was Shown. It was not meant for Current Times.
@@Gilder-von-Schattenkreuz Why would they show a map depicting a demographic from pre Republican Turkey while talking about a contemporary issue? Like use a more modern map which they did good until you see majority in Konya which is not true in current times
Westerners are deeply ignorant on eastern European and Middle East matters. As soon as I heard the British accent I stopped the video and went straight to the comments.
Turkiye has more than 1000 kms of borders with Syria and Iraq, that's why it is concernd with the out of the control, out of the government events in those countries.. Then, how many kms of borders the US has with those countries, how many kms the US away from this location of the earth, why the US interfere all the events take place here, what is the explanation of "American profits"???
It's explained in the video, if they leave, there'll be a power vacuum that could be filled by Assad or ISIS. Moreover, the local population helped in the fight against ISIS.
@@chugachuga9242 to keeb the oil/wheat feilds out of the syrian gov hands its part of the economic sanctions the last 6 years syria had wheat/fuel shortage and without russian support the gov would collapse from within search for the economic production of syria before 2011 you will understand
You had some mistakes also on the history, in fact during the Turkish War of Independence, Kurdish people sided with Turkish rebels and they didn't want independence until the land reforms started. Even then the resistance was not ethnicity based, it was the landlords who started rebellions claiming "Turkey is becoming Christian" or some religious bullshit. Real ethnic Kurdish movement for separation started after the coup at 1980 since they were very harsh towards all leftist people but especially Kurds, they even banned the Kurdish language.
false and true, yes kurds fought with turks only because they where facing foreign power, kurds have already fought and rebel even before the war started, they wanted independence not change of who rule them.
@@rushyscoper1651 the idea of a nation state appeared in Anatolia very late. Both Turks and Kurds didn't really understand such concepts well. There are historical examples of Turkish people filling forms and writing "muslim" as their nationality during the last 30 years of the Empire. I don't think an average Kurdish person understood the difference either. We were forced to understand what ethnicities and nations meant by the Western influence. If you dig deep enough, you will see all of those rebellions were motivated by something else. Land reforms, religious changes, religious minorities, famine. You can't rebel for an ethnicity that you don't consider different than the rest. It's important to understand how people viewed the world back then.
@@danielcavender1092 the Ypg and pkk are completely linked. Kurds are not all terrorists but the Ypg and pkk are terrorists just like how hamas is a terrorist organisation but palestinians are not all terrorists. America should not expect turkey to not attack terror groups when it allows Israel to do the same
If they're willing to support Kurdistan that much why shouldn't they just create Kurdistan inside their country? Rather than just trying to create an country where 4 of countries will not want it? USA seems to be so interested in creating Kurdistan, so why they shouldn't create Kurdistan in their lands?
@@Vulcan_111Kurds are from Zagros mountains. Kurds are Western Iranian. They marginalized from Farsi brothers. They didnt live the coasts of mesopotamia rivers😂
There may be Kurdish groups in Turkey, Syria, Iraq, and Iran; they have existed throughout history. Why does this concern other countries? Could it be to exploit the oil in that region
@@romanhama5377 If we assume that you are so narrow-minded, the only way to convince you would be to have a Azerbaijani citizen and a Libyan citizen respond. We buy oil and natural gas from countries like Libya, Russia, Iran, Iraq, Azerbaijan, and Turkmenistan, while they obtain it through occupation. That's the difference.
@@sinopbizimmemleket7953 Doughtful, everyone is looking out for their own best intrests. And those who don't rarely survive, the Kurds being a perfect exemple or look at the Sams of Sweden & Finland or the Catalonians of Barcelona. Sweden being also a good exemple of taking best intrest in mind, during WW2 they let Nazi Germany secretly buy iron from them and even use their borders to surprise attack Norway. And when the Norwegian king, a relative of the Swedish begged for refugee they denied it, despite claiming to be a neutral country in that war.
I disagree, if current governments undermine certain “values” or “principles”, then you should challenge them. If they then ignore them, then they should remove them from the alliance. An important question is if freedom is worth sacrificing for peace, especially of another group.
I dont see how turkey is beneficial to the usa at all.. Maybe when the ussr existed and they controlled the black sea, nowdays turkey has close relations with russia they wont help in a potential conflict.
Imagine Turkey supports an uprising in Mexico that involves Latins in the US and next to the US's borders and Turkey shot downs an US drone in Mexico. This exactly what happens in Syria.
And since when were Latinos oppressed by the Federal government and treated as secondary citizens? Hell, since when do American Latinos advocate for their own independent nation when the majority of the Americas are already Latino countries? This is a godawful analogy, do better next time
“Ever since a US fighter drone shot down a Turkish drone”, I love the content but you don’t seem to have made that much progress of sloppy mistakes audio wise
Yeah I agree, I've been listening to TLDR for awhile now but this video feels like it was rushed in the making. We all make mistakes, but there's quite a few in this one. TLDR, we wish for improvement 💪
0:32 where did you get this map? The inner parts of Turkey do not have Kurdish majority. You can simply check the latest election map and see where the Kurdish parties got the majority votes.
@@a_kazakis dude I literally live in the central part of Turkey, and am from the eastern part of Turkey. Just because there is a map you don’t have to believe it. But I give you that you can look at the previous election maps too, which would be a bit healthier. I only mentioned that because it is the easiest and quickest way to disprove it.
@@aliyarozercan I have no idea or interest about the ethnic composition of central and south Turkey tbh, you asked where they found the maps and I provided a source. Ofc it can be wrong, but on the other hand you are a random person on the internet so I would say it's 50-50 on what is correct. Cheers.
There are in some places. Like Haymana, Ankara; Karacabey, Bursa etc. There were kurdish displacement during ottoman to prevent vendetta between clans...
I'm not a fan of almost anything erdogan does, but even as an American I've gotta admit he's kinda right about the YPG. Western nations like the US agree with Turkey that the PKK is a terrorist group and also have them designated as such, and there are links between the UPG and the PKK. So it's kind of hypocritical of us to support the YPG if we are opposed to terrorism and designate the PKK as a terrorist group. I understand and support wanting to protect the kurds, but maybe not by going through an organization which is at best linked to terrorists.
We still support the Kurds , also worked good with them + not beginning of the Groups Turkey supports like Gray wolves, radical Islamic imams in germany
@Janoip that sounds like you're just saying 2 wrongs make a right. I'm in no way defending just about anything erdogan's government does, just saying we prpbably shouldn't be supporting a group which is supporting an organization we designated as terrorists.
Nowadays the word "terrorist" is slapped onto any organization or group one's geopolitical sphere is opposed to. The Mujahedeen, most of whom became members of the Taliban, were lauded as honorable defenders of Afghanistan when it was the Soviets they were fighting.
@AVA_Beats that is true to some extent, but there are still plenty of actual terrorists. It's more common for a group which should be labeled as terrorists not to be than the other way around, like you said with the mujahideen.
There's a large minority of Syrian Turks who live along the Turkish/Syrian border. They have been there since Ottoman times and are ethnically related to Azerbaijanis of Western/Northwestern Iran. Turkey has had to protect those communities from ethnic cleansing by Assad as well as hostile Kurdish tribes.
Please don't fall into the trap of conflating the PKK/YPG with "the Kurds". Kurds are a politically diverse group. Only a small minority actually are part of PKK/YPG or even support them. You can find far more Kurds who are pro Turkey and even more who are just apolitical and hate the politics. The idea of calling PKK/YPG, "The Kurds" is a completely modern Western concept that started when Washington found that the PKK/YPG were very useful foot soldiers for the US to get control of Syrian oil. So now they are hiding a US oil grab behind this Marxist terror group.
In a way Turkey is right, it's hypocritical to fight a terrorist organisation by supporting another terrorist organisation just because the other one didn't kill civilians in your own country... Yet
lol is Turkey not hypocritical? they for example support Palestinian right to self-determination and deny Kurds' right to self-determination. they ignor Uyghurs for financial reasons.
Most of the territory kurds hold is populated by an arab majority, much more so before the Civil War or where do you think the millions of refugees living outside syria come from ypg is ethnically cleansing syrian Arabs from northern syria and giving fellow kurds stolen originally arab houses abd villages Many of the girls used in marketing are around 16years old and were kidnapped as children by ypg at the ages of 5-12
Why Türkiye is in Syria? You can see the most important information about this conflict in this TH-cam video: " Senior US general explains rebranding YPG away from terror group PKK "
0:29 you couldn't possibly compose a worse map from the sources you had provided. You had just randomly colored some places on the map, not even fitting with your reference maps.
Its simple really. As a Turkish person watching everything unfold, how can anyone expect us to trust nato or west? I can clearly feel that no matter what Turkish state or nation does to please west we never get the respect we deserve. So if you have Turkophobia please take your seat and watch what your stupid fear over some ethnicity (or maybe religion) end up created. Trust is broken once.
About separatist movements in Syria... US be like : we need to bring “democracy” to Kurdistan✌🏻😎 Russia supports Donbass* USA be like: This is terrorism!!!🤬🤬
@@anonymoususer8895 But the United States has already annexed *60%* of Mexican territory, annexed Hawaii, and continues to occupy Guantánamo Bay.🤡 It would be a bit hypocritical of them to criticize Russian annexation lol🤭😂
@@romanhama5377 Libian elected government asked and signed security deal with Turkey so Turkey send troops to stop General Hafter whom is trying to put there by Us and France . how is that sound to you ? truths hurt ?
As a Kurdish citizen of Turkiye who has never voted or Erdoğan, I completely agree with what he is doing in this matter. I don't want a Kurdish state that will be founded by terrorist organizations and will be a repeat of Arab countries in the region. If USA can be a multi ethnic democracy why can't Turkiye, Syria or Iraq be that? And also we are part of the NATO and we even have their bases in Turkiye. So why is USA looking for other allies which we consider terrorists in the region? What are the intentions and interests that leads them to look for allies opposing Turkiye?
I think the difference between other Multi-Ethnic countries and the USA is that everyone chooses to live in the USA, and nobody chooses to live in a Multi-Ethnic country Edit: I mean today, not back 200 years ago, where everyone forced to be in America is dead by now
My problem with Erdoğan, is that he is a anti democracy/imperialist. He is not happy with the US and the kurdish, but he has no problem with harbouring leaders from the HAMAS terrorist group,that wants the genocide of Jews and likes to hide behind innocent civilians and children. Not to forget that they live like royalty in Turkey, Qatar and other places, while the Palestinian people suffer, mostly because of the decisions of their leaders. Palestine was never an independent country, neither the kurdish. But what Erdoğan is not ready to give the kurdish,he thinks the Israeli must give to the Palestinian. HYPOCRISY AND DOUBLE STANDARDS AT IT'S WORST.
Turkish here. I grow up seeing the PKK terorism in Turkey. I have seen the worst years, 90ies where there were no day without a group of Turkish soldiers being attacked or killed on the news. That is a 40 year old problem. We all grow up together with Kurdish friends, they never been any different than our Turkish friends and this is still the case. The extremist and separatist group is very very minor. This is good to underline. I just wanted to underline that these kind of videos are usually clickbait and the video includes many wrong information. But this one is very well prepared and informative. Kudos to the team worked on this. I don't have much to add. US and Europe has always backed PKK and PYD (YPG in this video) both in weapons, politically and money-wise. Up until now, most of the high level PKK members are in Sweden. That is the reason Turkey is not allowing them in NATO. The most recent military developments in Turkey puts Turkey in a good position against PKK and that should be upsetting US for their own benefits.
For Europe, yes, they did supported PKK, probably due to turkophobia and racism against turks. For US, its more recent, before US, Russians supported and helped found the PKK which designates itself as communist.
@@adamfarmer7665Don't attribute to malice what can be attributed to raw self-interest. Most of the West doesn't care and is not pro-PKK or anti-Turk (maybe anti-Muslim). The only people who care about your conflict here are leftists, because they see Kurds as oppressed progressive socialist victims. Our leaders probably only helped the YPG because they advance our geopolitical interests in the Middle East.
Like you said, its malice - malicious intent, in the form of geopolitical reason of destablizing turkey. Same reason why Turkey is bribed to hold millions of refugees, to destablize turkey. They see "PKK and YPG" "as oppressed progressive socialist victims", not Kurds, majority of the Kurds in Turkey do not support PKK and YPG, PKK and YPG have people of kurdish origin, they are not "Kurds" as a whole. Its depicted as "Kurds" to support a narrative maliciously. @@felixb6
@@doncorleone1553 You do realise there are Turkmen in syria? Literally our people are in Syria and we are trying our best to protect them. Plus we got terrorist problems as well.
@@danielcavender1092 they run drug trade to fund their operations, steal syrias oil, kidnap children from villages and use child soldiers and they are an off shoot of a recognized terror organization. If thats not terrorism, then what is?!?
actually if turks were really bombing innocent kurds then turkiye woulndt breathe from sanctions but thre isnt any sanction why? think about it@@danielcavender1092
We consider ISIS (IS/ISIL) a terrorist organization in Turkiye. We have been hit by bombing attacks by those jihadi terrorist militants in Istanbul and Ankara, just like Paris and London. Turkish Armed Forces neutralized its so-called leader, terrorist El-Baghdadi. But we have also been experiencing same kind of terrorism by PKK (YPG/KCK). We have been hit in Istanbul, Ankara and many other cities by PKK terrorist militants. We witnessed a bombing attack outside Vodafone Arena Stadium after a soccer match, people died and there were blood and missing body parts everywhere. Horrible! But the thing what we are having difficulty to understand is the fact that why our supposedly NATO allies supplying ammunition to this terrorist organization which are used to carry out terrorist attack in our metropolitan areas which results in losses of many civilian "casualties". Please empathize and think for just a second. An armed terrorist organization who claims to be freedom fighters, true believers or any ideological fundamentalism carrying on armed assaults and car bombing activities within your border. They don't even distinguish army or civilians. And your supposedly allies in a "mutual defense" organization is systematically supplying them arms and weapons which are revealed in both open declarations and ballistic investigations. What would be you think and feel? Please be sincere.
Don't forget that many human rights organizations are pushing for the removal of the PKK from terrorist lists because they are acting like internal conflict actors. And a few courts have also been pushing for this because Turkey has been unable to prove legally that the PKK should be labeled terrorists rather than civil war combatants
I think a lot of people in the west sympathize with the Turkish point of view. US foreign policy in the region is centered around Zionism. My theory is they interfere in Syria to keep them weak so they arent a threat to Israel.
i have a radical idea, let the kurds have their own state, they are an independence movement fighting a government that for a very long time refused to even accept their existence and banned their culture and langauge, are you surprisded many of them hate you? forcing your will on them again and again will do nothing but maintain this conflict. is your desire for land worth it?
Wanting independence is understandable mate but killing civilians, firing busses with commuters within, arsoning forests, ... is not. I support political rights and freedom of speech but not violence and terrorism. I believe there is a difference between those for reasonable persons.
Two perspectives can be true simultaneously: 1. The US is aiding Kurdish separtists. Doing so creates favorable oil conditions for themselves. 2. Withdrawing US troops from Syria will lead to more violence from Middle Eastern terrorist groups, authoritarian Middle Eastern countries, and Russia.
All of this started with the europeans meddling in middle eastern affairs since oil has been discovered in the area. The muslims pretty much only fought each other (shia vs sunni, salafists vs moderates) before the colonizers arrived. The only reason any terrorism is happening in the west is because of the british and americans propping up these extremist dictators to control the oil coming out. Same thing with the Kurds like you said. They don’t care about terrorism, it’s just a casus belli to legitimize their strategic and business interests. It’s literally putting gas on to put out a fire. When the west completely leaves the middle east alone, then things might slowly start to turn to normal. Although the geopolitical situation has been set up so that there will be conflict, so it will be slow and bloody. It’s either that or it will stay stagnant and lead to even more bloodshed until a few decades after the oil runs out.
@@kaankanca4634 America certainly does have a lot to answer for. I agree with that. However, I do have to correct one point. The islamic empires definitely did not keep their conflicts among themselves. Since the beginning of Islam in the 8th century until the fall of the Ottoman Empire in the 20th century, Islamic lands have launched conquest against and established colonies in any land they could. All in order to convert the locals to their tradition and establish favorable trade. Sound familiar. They conquered Spain, Greece, Morrocco, Egypt, etc. Sure, many of those are Muslim countries today, but that is only because the islamic empires conquered them. This isn't to justify what europeans did. It is just illustrating in a timeline where europeans tried not to interfere with the Middle East, islamic lands would still be launching attacks against non islamic lands.
The reason why "terrorist" organisations exist in the first place is because of US intervention. You are clearly an american so you should know this(maybe you are not idk), if middle east is in turmoil USA gains resources from it. There is no "fighting terrorist groups". All this is done by design. Also what Ottoman Empire did is NOT "colonializm". That is because back then nationalizm was not a thing. Every piece of land and its people under Ottoman banner was free to follow their religion, use their language and carry on with their culture in general. I know this because my grand grandmother was a christian. What sparked the change of this was spreading idea of nationalizm. People wanted their own free states. And arabic lands were literally provoked by british to rebel against ottoman empire and was promised their own "nation". Again Ottoman empire was not a "nation" and it went completely against the spread of nationalizm at the time. And that was one of the reason why Ottoman Empire commited the armenian genocide, which btw i accept the fact that it happened as a turk. Ottoman Empire was scared armeniens would want their own nation aswell and commited horrible actions because they were paranoid. In this subject however i would also like to point out current republic of Turkey is NOT ottoman empire. In fact when we started the independence war which again was sparked by spread of nationalizm, Ottoman Empire literally declared us rebels when the republic was formed! What i am saying is, its not about really someone answering for crimes or not. Every action a country, empire or a nation in general takes, is for their own gains. There is no morality in politics. Thats why i find this USA's "fighting terrorists" propaganda very stupid. Anyone who belives that has no idea how politics work.
why exactly US is in midlle east? middle east is thosunds of kilometers away from US but they are in there but turkey is bordering middle east so it makes no sense what US doing
@@HollowVortex81 Europe is beginning to lean towards the U.S. for their fuel imports, so it makes sense why we’d have less of a reason to be in the region nowadays
Turkey entered into Syria where there is no sovereign country because in order to have sovereign country, you need to control country. If you are out of control, to stop terrorism spreading, 1 can intercept if not massacaring any1 after nor having nationalistic evil hidden agenda. Which Turkiye does not and Turkiye looses money every month with this economy to help that region. Turkiye is the no1. country in the world that makes humanitarian aid to poorer nations when compared with overall economy GDP. European hypocrisy is European not Turkish. Turkish culture is more Balkan and Asian but not European. You can call Turks not well modernized, sometimes emotionaland sometimes acting stupid but never hypocritic.@@skepticsphere5930
@@skepticsphere5930 The syrian-arab state and al-Assad still have some chlorine attacks to account for. Syria got on a path to be a russian client, where russian urban siege doctrine propped up al-Assad.
@@skepticsphere5930 which assad needs to ask putin bc he invited putin in syria and putin invited turkey in syria after ISIS ypg and pkk got together to launch katyusha rockets to the turkısh border ofc thıs was ıgnored at the fırst 2-3 years as assad said he had it under control : spoiler : he didnt had it under control so with the invite from russia turkey went in also assad really didnt mind as hım and erdogan at the time was friends so yea turkey is kinda safe game .. for now atleast
As a Turkish citizen, i have to thank TLDR team for preparing a non-biased news. I also want to add, PKK have killed and abducted many (thousands) children from Turkish villages for decades and this has been an ungoing fight. Many civilians have suffered in the eastern region of Türkiye...
How can turkey give morality lessons to anyone when it can't even recognize its own wrongdoings ? Not even the Armenian Genocide lmao Schengen visa denials to turks reached a record this year, i hope they reach a Guinness world record
I love TLDR's works! Here are my constructive feedbacks to make your work better. Map shows that some parts of Central and Northeastern Anatolia are where Kurdish population is majority but it is false. There are some comments which argues these maps are from the times that dissolution of Ottoman Empire happened but as far as I know this was not correct as well. Another point from me, US's and many Western countries' labeling PKK as a terrorist group could have been mentioned for those who don't know the issue. Finally, the UAV shot down by the US army wasn't belonged to Turkish army but Turkish Intelligence Agency. This helped both countries to avoid flaring up the tensions however some concerns needed to be addressed to soften public discourse. If this weren't an UAV, according to me, the loss of military personnel would have a greater impact on the relations.
Büyük olasılıkla İncirlik ve Kürecik üssleri kapatılırdı. Kaldıki ABD'nin Suriye ve Filistin politikaları böyle devam ederse yakında bu iki üssün kapatılması çok olasıdır
@@simko28 as a person who sees the world as a mix of people categorized within different groups of identities, I acknowledge that in the history there have been obviously and certainly Kurdish people in the mentioned areas as is the case today. But I think sometimes you should also get away from your nationalist myths. Because the map in the video and my comment is about places where Kurds are majority. Nationalist myths always assume that their nation was at the center of everything before others. To put it mildly, your ethnic cleansing argument about the mentioned areas is baseless. Part of the world that Armenians or Kurds aren’t majority doesn’t necessarily mean that they had been majority once upon a time and then murdered by the Turks. Sometimes there are just people who repeat their baseless ideological arguments together with hostility they cannot suppress at every opportunity.
@@simko28 Türk hükümetinde(Ak Parti), birkaç Bakan Kürt kökenli, 50'nin üzerinde Kürt kökenli milletvekili var, binlerce bürokrat, yüzlerce danışman Kürt kökenli! Türkiye'nin Kürtlerle sorunu yok, Türkiye'nin sorunu, bir kukla terör örgütü olan Pkk ve uzantılarıyla.
Well yeah, we're still dealing with the mess of the Ottoman empire. Armenian genocide, invasion of Cyprus etc. Turkey still occupies Constantinople and large areas of Thrace.
@@alanay It's obvious that there won't be a restoration of the Ottoman Empire. The idea is preposterous. If I had said that it's well-known that there won't be a restoration of the Roman Empire, would you have challenged that too? Your last sentence is irrelevant - the Ottoman Empire is what we're talking about. This is such an obvious point that I'm not interested in discussing it further. Blocked.
Summary of the conflict: US wants to defend Israel in the region against Syria and Iran, wants to gain control over the area and get the oil at the same time, by causing instability in the region and using Kurdish groups as a disposable manpower. Turkey wants US to stop arming Kurdish groups who uses those weapons against Turkey and creating a big national threat. I leave it to you to decide which side's motive is more meaningful...
@@beausheffield1895kurds were threatened only by ISIS. Neither Assad nor Erdogan inititiated fighting with the Kurds. What self defense you are talking about.
@@beausheffield1895 does Crimea have the right to self determination? If you are going to give the right of self determination to any separatist movement then give to every single one around the globe.
@@salmanahmadabbasi6791 I don’t mean to “Insult your Turkish Nation”, but it seems to me that you lost the right to govern the Kurds as you can’t seem to stop killing them 40000 have died most of whom were civilians. It’s bad enough that you still deny the Greek and Armenian genocides. You’re going to try an deny the one you’re committing right now against the Kurds?
Türkiye is not fighting the USA. Turkey is fighting the YPG terrorist organization, which has carried out numerous terrorist attacks in Turkey. The real problem is that the USA provides weapons and equipment to these terrorist organizations.
US control of the oil fields in north-east Syria was to deny ISIS any revenue from the oil. Helping the Kurds process their own oil, is simply making sure the Kurds have the resources to continue fighting ISIS in that area.
@@marknunya3107I mean we export more than we import... labor and processing just cheaper elsewhere. Also saves time/ money transporting to Europe The US needs oil? Nah they just want more money lol I know SPR is low, but that's a recent development
I don't see the double standard there. The YPG proved to be a valuable ally in the fight against ISIS; whereas, Turkey did next to nothing to fight ISIS, not even curbing the flow of ISIS recruits through their territory. Meanwhile, Hamas has American blood on their hands, not just in this recent conflict, but going all the way back to when the group was established. While the United States does not tacitly support what Israel is/has been doing to the Palestinians, when it comes to Hamas, we've also run out of f***s to give. Furthermore, Turkey just has not proven itself to be a reliable ally to the United States or NATO at all. The way I see it, the United States is simply just remembering who its actual friends are.
@@ccvcharger in wich World do you live turkey started a ground offensive against Isis. Why the al nusra also fighted against Isis what makes them different terrorists are fighting against terrorists. Turkey is the most important ally for USA. Turkey is the only NATO member that tries to deescalate.
Because Hamas is just like isis they are a terrorist group but YPJ is the only tolerance and Democratic Party in entire Middle East including Turkey that’s why
@@scottgleeson4905 isolationist and entangling alliances are not the same thing. Entangling alliances would be allying ourselves with Saudi Arabia and Israel and Qatar. Even though all three of them don't like each other.
@@romanhama5377 Actually what you are saying is ridiculous. Do you speak Persian or Kurdish? It's the same language lol. My grandma is Kurdish, I lived with them. They are being used by Western countries unfortunately
@@barisveesitlik9310 Hahaha you stupid fool, I thought you would never ask 😂 Very well here is the answer to your question: To name a Kurdish country in history hope you are ready 😁 Hope you don't delete your comment now Early entities: 770-1836 AD Sadakiyans (770-827) Daysam (938-955) Hadhabanis (906-1080) Aishanids (912-961) Shaddadids (951-1199) Rawwadids (955-1071) Hasanwayhids (959-1014) Marwanids (983-1096) Annazids (990/91-1117) Shabankara (11th century-12th century) Principality of Eğil (1049-1864, Diyarbakir) Hazaraspids (1115-1425) Ayyubid dynasty (1171-1341) Principality of Bitlis (1187-1847) Vassaldom of Ardalan (14th century-1865 or 1868) Zakarids (1161-1360) Emirate of Çemişgezek (13th century-1663) Mukriyan (14th century-19th century) Zarrinnaal Dynasty (1448-1925) Emirate of Pazooka (1499-1587) Principality of Suleyman (15th century-1838) Emirate of Soran (before 1514-1836) ---------------------------------------------------------------- Remnants of the Ayyubid Dynasty (13th century-19th century) Various Kurdish political entities blossomed in the period after the disestablishment of the Ayyubid dynasty in 1260. Some of these rulers claimed descent from the Ayyubids. Principality of Donboli (1210-1799) Emirate of Bingöl (1231-1864) Emirate of Hasankeyf (1232[28]-1524]) Emirate of Kilis Emirate of Şirvan (?-1840s) Emirate of Hakkâri (?-1845) Principality of Zirqan (1335-1835) Emirate of Bahdinan (1339-1843) Emirate of Bohtan (?-1833) Principality of Mahmudi (1406-1839) Principality of Pinyaşi (1548-1823) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Other dynasties of Kurdish ancestry Zand dynasty (1750-1794) - The dynasty is of Kurdish Lak origin. Safavid dynasty (1501-1736) - The dynasty was partly of Kurdish origin. ___________________________________________ 20th-21st century entities Kurdish State (1918-1919) Kingdom of Kurdistan (1921-1924 and 1925) Kurdistansky Uyezd (1923-1929) and Kurdistan Okrug (1930) Republic of Ararat (1927-1931) Republic of Mahabad (1946-1947) Republic of Laçin (1992) Kurdistan regional government (1992 - to this day) ----------------------------------------------------------------------Sources are implied here easy to follow and verify en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Kurdish_dynasties_and_countries
5:24 It's dark comedy how Americans keep using the term (we shot back in self-defense) over and over again when they are being in others' countries, uninvited, performing covert COMBAT missions...man the moment you cross the borders of another country without approval you're no different from thos who you are try to fearmonger your own people for crossing your southern borders😉, so, if you're entitled to fire back in self-defense, that means those people are also entitled to do the same. Question: haven't you noticed that wherever US is intervening, regional instability & turmoil strike?
I know they have comedic responses, if they were legally entitled to be there in the 1st place they would have said - we acted in accordance to our obligations in International Law and Rules Based Order. But since they are not in Syria legally....they do the self defence thing and their public believes them.
@@Vulcan_111 Not a single country in the world, including the United States, recognises "Kurdistan". It is the sovereign territory of the Syrian Arab Republic.
@@Vulcan_111 I hate to break it to you but there is a tiny issue with that statement which is the fact that Kurdistan is only a region and not a country.
As a Turkish I can say that Türkiye has to find another commercial partners and alliances and has to produce their own nukes with +10000 km ranged hypersonic ballistic missiles
The us is incredibly stupid to keep selling f16s to turkey. The US should ban the export of f110 engines. Let the pathetic Turkish "fighterjet" fly with hopes and dreams
@@HM-iy3dc All the parties besides the main two are almost certainly controlled opposition. There's a reason the communists and libertarians have reputations for being morons and lunatics. Green party is probably real but they're morons without help.
Fight between USA and Turkey is some kind of friendly fight at all, a small fight between two friends who get along well in many things with some exceptions that cause temporary fights. it will never get so big. Both countries need each other.
The USA-Turkey relationship has become frayed during Erdogan's time in office, largely because of Erdogan's obsession with the Kurdish issue, but also because of his drift towards authoritarianism which also upsets Europe.
@@aydinturhan9698says the illiterate turk 😂 your trt news brainwash has worked in lowering your lQ that wasn't high to beguin with. The whole world knows how pathetic turkey is. Enjoy the lira inflation
NATO doesn't mean that countries allied with US. It means countries that aillied with each other for PEACE at home peace in the world. So main question is "If US/Turkey/any NATO member joins to conflict against non-NATO country that bombing hospitals, killing thousands of innocent civillians trying to displace people because thay are muslim/jewish etc., for defending millions of innocent civillians; what should NATO allies do?".
I think your question should be if a terriost organization uses human shield hiding under hospitals using innocent people money to create missiles and send them on civilians and crying about the "death" of innocent lives you are an hypocrite
Ok?? US controls Oil fields? would you rather have the terroist control them and make money, buy more weapons and become stronger? US doesn't need the oil.
There is no 30 million not even 10 million Kurds. Population much much lower. Less than 7-8 million in Middle East. They speak different language , not understanding each other.
What the hell is going on with the maps? It's like they gave a drunk a pencil and showed him what map he was supposed to draw looks like and then didn't bother to check if he got the map wrong. I know that you guys need to rush this content but it might end up misrepresenting the actual events you were supposed to inform us about.
Kurds don’t have a UN recognized country, it’s illegal invasion regardless of oil or not, neither US or turkey have a right to be in syria. At least the Russians and iranians were invited by the UN recognized govt of syria.
erdoğan is right at least in this situation. it is border of turkiye and syria. what is america doing in another country even another continent? and it is not very important to name them as a terrorist or not. if they attack to turkish border or even to turkiye's capital city, turkiye gonna respond. and its truly understandable why turkiye builds a buffer zone. because there is a lot of refugees in turkiye. and they want to be sure refugees gonna be okay in syria so they build a safe zone for them.
So turkey has the right to invade syria even tho it didn't get attacked but turkey criticizes Israel for invading gaza? If hypocrisy had a homecountry that would be Turkey
@@MinecraftMasterNo1 No but it covers NATO and Turkey and the US is NATO. It said if someone (State only, not non-state actor) attacked one of NATO then all other NATO will come to help
It is sad that TLDR insists on not addressing PKK as a terrorist organization. 5 minutes of research is enough to find that PKK is internationally recognized as a terrorist organization...
@@AvrahamYairStern תודה bro I have a huge respect for your people you guys had to face massacres, polgroms, blamed for all the problems but you guys survived and manage to create your own country in your ancestral lands and manage to defend it. Even tho I am a muslim I cant help but show respect. I wish you guys finally can achieve peace
@@DoofyGilmore1299 being Muslim doesn't have to mean we can't have respect for each other. I have Muslim friends, they're great people and I wish all Muslims could be like this, we both just want peace. Türkiye is a great country, good food, good people, good culture and history, I can't wait to visit!
@@AvrahamYairStern yes bro I also have a jewish friend, I want a middle eas where jews and muslims can live together in harmony. I hope you can come and visit Turkiye soon, take care of yourself friend.
Both the US and Turkey are illegally occupying sovereign Syrian territory, according to the United Nations charter. The Iranians and Russians were invited into Syria by the internationally recognised Syrian Government. Hence their military presence is legal and lawfull.
except for the fact that just as skp87 said turks got the consent from russıans and also bashar did invite the turkısh military for operation europhats shield * i spelled that wrong but i think u get the point
@@danielbuddenmusic1502He is right. You're just saying he is idiot because so he failed at that plan. Was that plan any good for you? Imagine, just destroying an country for oil trough you call him an idiot because he didn't wanted to ruin Iraq?
@@danielbuddenmusic1502 He was commander in chief and were obviously told the reason.It's just that Trump has no diplomatic filter so he spoken it aloud.
30 million Kurds? The lowest estimates are at about the 50-55 million zone. There are at least 25 million Kurds in northern Kurdistan occupied by Turkey.
We no longer use the name "Turkey" but "Türkiye". This new name is used both in diplomatic sources and in the UN, OECD, EU and other international organizations.
Omg you still coping about that? 😂 Turks really have low self esteem 😂 🦃 If a country wants to hurt the Turkish people , it just has to refer to their country as turkey
Let me write about what happened in northern Syria. Syria's most productive water and oil resources are in this region. Although the organization in that region is a socialist organization, it is financed by capitalists. A useful apparatus was needed for Israel and the US and it was found in that region :)) They are taking their last steps in this region before heading to the Pacific. As long as this process continues like this, Turkey and the US will most likely part ways. The US largely lost control over Turkey after 2016. There are two major obstacles left in front of them in the Arab spring and the great Middle East project, one of which is Turkey and the other is Iran. This stage will not be easy for them.
sounds funny hope turkey leaves Nato fast so we can finaly act against them + stop the easier access to the eu market, stop the blackmailing and put up again weapon export controls on turkey (and no turkey is by far not ready to do it alone, for that still far to many parts come from western companies + allies) Also we can support Greece more without caring about Turkish crying Greetings from Germany
Rojava was only militarily backed by the US, not at all financed. Most of its income comes from oil and agriculture, and the US is not one of their main economic partners. Turkey is a quasi fascist state and Iran is a ruthless theocracy. I hate the US as your next person, being a socialist from Brasil, and rly stand with Iran when it is about defending it's soberany against imperialism but 1- Erdogan will never get the guts to part ways with one of their biggest actual partner out of the Middle East, and 2- I'll never support Iran's government
@@Ventosis Ultimately, these two countries will decide the bond between themselves. For now, this bond has not been completely broken. As soon as it is completely disconnected, it has no meaning whether it is a NATO member or not.
It's not a question of "if" Türkiye will bail on NATO, but when. And it is to be expected, because Türkiye conducts itself to it's own ends, in all matters.
This is not a NATO issue. NATO's vision is clear and Turkiye shares it. It doesn't bind anyone to do anything for its borders. Also we are the border of the NATO. Turkiye thinks her interests like any other country in the world, we call it "foreign policy". if you don't know, suggest you to check what it is. The world is not a playground of the USA.
Turkey will never leave NATO, the government higher ups are deeply interconnected with the west, especially the UK. The opposition parties are actually more anti-western than the current government.
What a childish thing to say. Turkey is trying to protect its own people and interests. The USA is also trying to protect the interests of Israel, sorry, its own people. What the USA is doing in this region on the other side of the world is a bigger crime. Otherwise, it is a crime; Doing things that the USA does not want? If a country is to be excluded from NATO, it should be the United States, which implements policies against an ally that it has promised to protect when necessary. As it is known, a country with an ally like the USA or UK does not need another enemy. Look how many people died and are dying in Ukraine. Of course, this is the case for reasonable and logical people.
Turkey sees what it can get They are opportunistic but they are on our side They’re a frenemy Better than Russia or China Also turkey is the only western country that legitimately scared China and Russia
when the US released the former baathist government officials they went into an alliance with radical sunni tribal leaders in western iraq, they then started conquering land the closest of which was lands inhabited by kurds
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@@HollowVortex81yes great idea
and North west iraq?
Dood, do pre-editing of your videos... daaamn
Its not that hard to reshoot and reupload.
"What are you doing in Syria, Turkey?"
"What are you doing 9 thousand kilometers away from the American continent, USA?"
The USA is a Superpower that could glass ankara if it wanted to
Both want the oil.
America is a country. The US ain’t in Syria. Get your facts right!
Simple explanation. Isis and afiliates got strong selling that oil to the black market thru turkiye.
No oil - no money for weapons - no isis or afiliates.
Why? Cause assad, russia, iran etc all claim to have fought isis but none of them did, they went after isis when they had less weapons acess due to less funding cause usa took the oil fields.
It's pretty simple, cause history didn't start yesterday 🤷♀️
@@Migssato Let US try. A combined force made of Brits, French, Italians, Greeks, Russians, Armenians and Anzacs tried before US once
Turkish army should go to the Mexico border to protect Mexicans and secure their mineral sources.
Exactly! Stupid muricans do that to syria.
A turk seems to be butt-hurt. You're occupiers, living on other people's lands, you're the Israel of the Muslim world.
Ve sonra Kaliforniya, Arizona, New Meksiko, Teksas, Nevada gibi eyaletleri Meksika'ya bağlamalı, nasıl olurdu? 😃
82 Kaliforniya, 83 Arizona
yeah, as if you even the power to challenge them. A single U.S Navy fleet could make you rats bugger out of the mediterranean.
The real question is „what the f*** is the usa doing in syria?“
Edit: this was a rhetorical question
Dave Chapolle
Interviewer: They say that usa is in the Middle East only for the oil?
Dave Chapolle: Who says something about oil, beaach you cooking?
They are doing bullshit
The US ain’t in Syria. Get your facts right!
@anonymoususer8895 probably those 900 people, are just wearing and imposing as us soldiers
In us supposedly us bases in northeastern Syria
Yeah it's probably some random people, acting as us soldiers
@@aj3314 Maybe, perhaps maybe, those aren’t US soldiers but instead UN peacekeepers?
I think it's important to mention that a member not seeing eye to eye with NATO isn't just a Turkey thing, in the past decade France has multiple times take the opposite stance on NATO, the biggest example being the post-Gadhafi era in Libya where they supported a wanna be strong man and dictator Khalifah Haftar against both the UN and NATO.
Exactly
TLDR may want to make a video highlighting this if they haven’t already. As well as other divisions and common objectives.
in Turkey we dont trust and believe Nato from the beggining.
@@Tay12345 splatoon
yes @@smoothbrainsquid1904
The EU often uses discourse on democracy and human rights to criticize Turkey, especially its counter-terrorism policies. However, we see that EU countries are approving, even supporting, Israel's severe violations of the Geneva Convention in its attacks on Gaza. The statement by the Israeli Defence Minister, giving the Israeli army free rein to do whatever they want, has not even been criticized by the EU. The EU has lost all its credibility on democracy and human rights during the bombing of Gaza. From now on, if you criticize Turkey on counter-terrorism, the response you will get from the Turks will be "go to hell."
And democracy is a system, it has nothing to do with bombings or human rights.
@@balporsugu2.0usa deciding what to send next is ten times more important than that useless strait in this land war.
Then only thing clear is that turkey has no place in nato, their place is with Afghanistan, Iraq and iran, other countries that reason the same way.
@@Doge811 the OP used those term correctly, yes its a system that have nothing to do with human rights but both apply to israel current state, the EU didn't have the same comments when israel where having their own grab on power issues with the court reshape.
second this isn't this or that, the west is hypocrite at leas the leaders on those issue and often use those term to justify their own national interests regardless if they have a point or not.
a lot of people/nation wouldn't have to be with iran, iraq, afghanistan if the west would treated them like Ukraine, instead like Palestine.
ethical national interest is something the west lack and while it seem there no rational need for it however that a short sighted view, there is a reason why we individually evolved to have ethics, because faking doesn't work for very long cracks form and the whole thing break at some point.
look to the west now filled with people who dispose there own nation filled with resentment to the point of celebrating hamas killing civilian, or look at israel on the other hand how long can they keep that up and will it ever come back to bite them, what happen when EU follow the public will which often lag behind, its clear west is moving away from israel, but israel is moving no where stuck in the 80s, wasting time which better spent on rebranding its nation and rebuilding ties.
Dont speak for all Turks, not all Turks support terrorism and most support Israel's right to defend itself. As usually less civilised are the louder ones
Propaganda... I guess you don't know the Geneva convention..
The map of US bases corresponds pretty well with the map of oil fields
What a coencidance.
The U.S. is run on scumbags, joining nato implies permission to let the U.S. grope your nation.
Makes strategic sense if you don’t want your enemies to have those energy resources…
@@jtgdand if you want to have those energy resources
@@KenanJoseph17 America doesn't use those resources.
The real question is:
“Why US is even in Syria?”
Why turkey is?
@@Doge811Let us host the Syrians. Let America buy the oil there, irrelevantly. There is no such world. In this case, he should take people to his own country.
@@Doge811 Unlike the U.S., Türkiye has a 911km border with Syria. It has to secure this border for its domestic security. What would the Americans think if Türkiye set up bases in Mexico along the U.S. border, trained&armed terrorist groups that attack U.S. cities on a regular basis, and then brazenly claimed that it is there for lofty purposes?
@@Doge811 Baybe 6 million refugees and a active terrorist organisation in the borders give Turkey a right to intervene, also Turkey litterally has a right to intervene acording to Treaty of Lousanne.
@@Doge811 Max am rican 🧠. If stupidity was considered a crime in your country, you would have to build 10 times as many prisons as you currently have.
Imagine Turkey arming & training Mexican cartels in Northern Mexico which would cross over the border and attack the Capitol with rocket launchers.
Imagine Kurds occupying Tajikistan and telling them they do not exist and forcing Kurdishness upon them. Imagine Kurds were fascists acting all entitled on other people's land.
@@Magneticvortex-kk4gb That’s what happens under YPG rule, don’t need to imagine.
@@sapphyrus YPG rule is secular and premised on equality. Turks can take their propaganda to the Xinjiang region and save their own people there. Kurdistan is not yours, never will be.
@@Magneticvortex-kk4gb YPG rule is communist dictatorship a la Pol Pot Cambodia. Turkey is a secular democratic country where Kurds and Turks live in peace.
@@Magneticvortex-kk4gbdon't make me laugh. They are literally militants.
The only reason they seem like that to you is the influence the US has over them.
As a Turk I want to say this: I dont want terrorists in my country. And America is supporting this terrorist groups. ( Those groups have plans for us ) Btw there is no Turkish-Kurdish conflicts in Türkiye. We live with peace. Our problem is with terrorism!
What a load of bull crap.
@@dannyrasul2077do you live in Turkiye?
@@dannyrasul2077 You are full of crap. Months ago some terrorists caused an explosion in Istanbul.
Our country is fighting with terrorism for 40 years and America is supporting them. SO you are full of crap
@@dannyrasul2077who do you think you are? Scum
Atadog supporter nerd turg
In the Video it was forgotten to mention that turkey also hosts more than 3,5 million syrian refugees which were planned to be settled in the regions controlled by türkiye.
settle? Do you mean to return home or resettle?
@@tiglishnobody8750 both. not all refugees in Turkey came from the Turkish occupied parts so the idea is to settle them back in Syria to the corridor
@@Ceylin_Kurtbogan I see
türkiye building homes for syrians in the region that they took from syria
you may say'' but it makes no sense''
and I say yes it makes no sense but erdogan doesnt care about turks a lot, he cares about muslims and he trying to be ''leader of islam in 2thosunds'
@@tiglishnobody8750
@@tiglishnobody8750both but specifically those areas to ethnically cleanse the Kurds in those areas. Like Israel in the West Bank
Im sorry but the map depicting kurdish majority areas are plagued with errors considering you marked the Tuz Golu as majority Kurdish alongside big chunks of Konya, Kirsehir and Ankara which are definetely not majority kurdish
Lots of info missed tbh. No mention of the Tigris & Euphrates starting in these Kurdish-Turkish areas which is why Erdogan is so interested in the area to begin with. Fresh water control of the Middle East is of great import, especially considering which countries these rivers flow towards. Control of resources/electricity gives geopolitical leverage for global issues.
The Map was for the Situation after the Ottoman Empire broke Apart as that was what the Video Explained when the Map was Shown.
It was not meant for Current Times.
@@Gilder-von-Schattenkreuz Why would they show a map depicting a demographic from pre Republican Turkey while talking about a contemporary issue? Like use a more modern map which they did good until you see majority in Konya which is not true in current times
Yeah that map is terrible
Westerners are deeply ignorant on eastern European and Middle East matters. As soon as I heard the British accent I stopped the video and went straight to the comments.
Turkiye has more than 1000 kms of borders with Syria and Iraq, that's why it is concernd with the out of the control, out of the government events in those countries.. Then, how many kms of borders the US has with those countries, how many kms the US away from this location of the earth, why the US interfere all the events take place here, what is the explanation of "American profits"???
Because it’s the United States we are the world’s Big Daddy , it’s not really two NATO countries that has differences.
US is NATO !
ABD'nin amacı bölgeyi "Büyük İsrail" için hazırlamak ve enerji kaynak ve koridorlarını ele geçirmek.
I meant religion from political perspective
The US ain’t in Syria. Get your facts right!
@@anonymoususer8895 I'm a Turk living in Turkiye, a lecturer who also fallows news.. where are you from?
WTF is the US doing in Syria?!?!
WTF turkey doing in syria????
we defend our land wbu? u guys stole everything @@a.d.sstudioanimation6438
@@a.d.sstudioanimation6438preventing the creation of another proxy state of usa in the Middle East
Oil
@@a.d.sstudioanimation6438 securing it s fucking borders???
What is USA doing in syria?
@@casper6014sure 😅
Israel’s bidding.
For oil
It's explained in the video, if they leave, there'll be a power vacuum that could be filled by Assad or ISIS. Moreover, the local population helped in the fight against ISIS.
invading a country and stealing there land like Russia in Ukraine but whit far less justification
american propaganda "we fight for freedom "
TRUMP "its all about the oil "😂😂😂
He said the quiet part out loud.
"Trump is a liar except when he says what I want him to say"
Yeah keeping the oil out of ISIS hands and keep it available for the Kurds
@@chugachuga9242 there is no isis it is american propaganda lie
@@chugachuga9242
to keeb the oil/wheat feilds out of the syrian gov hands
its part of the economic sanctions
the last 6 years syria had wheat/fuel shortage
and without russian support the gov would collapse from within
search for the economic production of syria before 2011 you will understand
You had some mistakes also on the history, in fact during the Turkish War of Independence, Kurdish people sided with Turkish rebels and they didn't want independence until the land reforms started. Even then the resistance was not ethnicity based, it was the landlords who started rebellions claiming "Turkey is becoming Christian" or some religious bullshit. Real ethnic Kurdish movement for separation started after the coup at 1980 since they were very harsh towards all leftist people but especially Kurds, they even banned the Kurdish language.
Kemalisme fucked us over
Finally someone spitting the facts!
Greetings from Turkey
if u want to kill me of course im shutting my mouth
false and true, yes kurds fought with turks only because they where facing foreign power, kurds have already fought and rebel even before the war started, they wanted independence not change of who rule them.
@@rushyscoper1651 the idea of a nation state appeared in Anatolia very late. Both Turks and Kurds didn't really understand such concepts well. There are historical examples of Turkish people filling forms and writing "muslim" as their nationality during the last 30 years of the Empire. I don't think an average Kurdish person understood the difference either. We were forced to understand what ethnicities and nations meant by the Western influence. If you dig deep enough, you will see all of those rebellions were motivated by something else. Land reforms, religious changes, religious minorities, famine. You can't rebel for an ethnicity that you don't consider different than the rest. It's important to understand how people viewed the world back then.
Why does America expect turkey to not attack the ypg but is perfectly happy with israel attacking hamas
Because the West is hypocrit
Because YPG is not the PKK. Just because Kurds organize, does not mean they’re terrorists
@@danielcavender1092pkk organised ypg
and ypg is twin brother of pkk
@@danielcavender1092 the Ypg and pkk are completely linked. Kurds are not all terrorists but the Ypg and pkk are terrorists just like how hamas is a terrorist organisation but palestinians are not all terrorists. America should not expect turkey to not attack terror groups when it allows Israel to do the same
@@danielcavender1092 Look up their top dogs. You won't find 5 different people in their top 20. It is not an off-shoot. It is the same group
I have a great idea 💡 maybe America should give Texas to them
If they're willing to support Kurdistan that much why shouldn't they just create Kurdistan inside their country? Rather than just trying to create an country where 4 of countries will not want it? USA seems to be so interested in creating Kurdistan, so why they shouldn't create Kurdistan in their lands?
@@user-4xislbstupid enoght
@@Vulcan_111 The lands you mentioned are lands that have been used since the first civilizations. A race can never claim Mesopotamia.
@@Vulcan_111Kurds are from Zagros mountains. Kurds are Western Iranian. They marginalized from Farsi brothers. They didnt live the coasts of mesopotamia rivers😂
There may be Kurdish groups in Turkey, Syria, Iraq, and Iran; they have existed throughout history. Why does this concern other countries? Could it be to exploit the oil in that region
Same reason Turkey care about Azerbaijan and Libya?
@@romanhama5377 If we assume that you are so narrow-minded, the only way to convince you would be to have a Azerbaijani citizen and a Libyan citizen respond. We buy oil and natural gas from countries like Libya, Russia, Iran, Iraq, Azerbaijan, and Turkmenistan, while they obtain it through occupation. That's the difference.
@@sinopbizimmemleket7953 You send trops and weapons to aid one side to secure cheaper access to the oil. How is that any different from them?
@@romanhama5377 Could our historical connections and kinship be a reason? Just like the Palestinians.
@@sinopbizimmemleket7953 Doughtful, everyone is looking out for their own best intrests. And those who don't rarely survive, the Kurds being a perfect exemple or look at the Sams of Sweden & Finland or the Catalonians of Barcelona. Sweden being also a good exemple of taking best intrest in mind, during WW2 they let Nazi Germany secretly buy iron from them and even use their borders to surprise attack Norway. And when the Norwegian king, a relative of the Swedish begged for refugee they denied it, despite claiming to be a neutral country in that war.
allies don’t really have to see eye to eye in all matters. overall the US-Turkish allience is still positive for both countries
I disagree, if current governments undermine certain “values” or “principles”, then you should challenge them. If they then ignore them, then they should remove them from the alliance.
An important question is if freedom is worth sacrificing for peace, especially of another group.
If we ignore the problems of others, then we should expect them to ignore ours.
no, Turkey is more generally causing all sorts of problems for NATO all the time, it is just an extremely unreliable ally, if it can be called one
turks = sick man of NATO and the near-east.
I dont see how turkey is beneficial to the usa at all.. Maybe when the ussr existed and they controlled the black sea, nowdays turkey has close relations with russia they wont help in a potential conflict.
Imagine Turkey supports an uprising in Mexico that involves Latins in the US and next to the US's borders and Turkey shot downs an US drone in Mexico. This exactly what happens in Syria.
Turkey isn't a super power
That is a pretty accurate analogy
And fsa was divided so they couldn't fight isi and ypg was alternative
And that will of course lead to the US invading Turkey under the guise of "regime change".
And since when were Latinos oppressed by the Federal government and treated as secondary citizens? Hell, since when do American Latinos advocate for their own independent nation when the majority of the Americas are already Latino countries?
This is a godawful analogy, do better next time
“Ever since a US fighter drone shot down a Turkish drone”, I love the content but you don’t seem to have made that much progress of sloppy mistakes audio wise
Or when he said that the kurds live mainly in SOUTH-west syria.
Or Trump withdrawing from northern Syria in 2009
Map at 0:35 is cursed as f 90%-99% ethnic Turkic cities shown as majority kurd
Yeah I agree, I've been listening to TLDR for awhile now but this video feels like it was rushed in the making. We all make mistakes, but there's quite a few in this one. TLDR, we wish for improvement 💪
They make spelling mistakes in their graphics that a beginner English student isn't likely to make.
0:32 where did you get this map? The inner parts of Turkey do not have Kurdish majority. You can simply check the latest election map and see where the Kurdish parties got the majority votes.
Just google: Kurdish diaspora map. Also a single election is a terrible measure to get demographic data. You need a lot more research for that.
@@a_kazakis dude I literally live in the central part of Turkey, and am from the eastern part of Turkey. Just because there is a map you don’t have to believe it. But I give you that you can look at the previous election maps too, which would be a bit healthier. I only mentioned that because it is the easiest and quickest way to disprove it.
@@aliyarozercan I have no idea or interest about the ethnic composition of central and south Turkey tbh, you asked where they found the maps and I provided a source. Ofc it can be wrong, but on the other hand you are a random person on the internet so I would say it's 50-50 on what is correct. Cheers.
I have met a lof of Kurds from that area. see this article: tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orta_Anadolu_K%C3%BCrtleri
There are in some places. Like Haymana, Ankara; Karacabey, Bursa etc. There were kurdish displacement during ottoman to prevent vendetta between clans...
I'm not a fan of almost anything erdogan does, but even as an American I've gotta admit he's kinda right about the YPG. Western nations like the US agree with Turkey that the PKK is a terrorist group and also have them designated as such, and there are links between the UPG and the PKK. So it's kind of hypocritical of us to support the YPG if we are opposed to terrorism and designate the PKK as a terrorist group. I understand and support wanting to protect the kurds, but maybe not by going through an organization which is at best linked to terrorists.
We still support the Kurds , also worked good with them + not beginning of the Groups Turkey supports like Gray wolves, radical Islamic imams in germany
@Janoip that sounds like you're just saying 2 wrongs make a right. I'm in no way defending just about anything erdogan's government does, just saying we prpbably shouldn't be supporting a group which is supporting an organization we designated as terrorists.
You probably preffer isis or the jihadists supported by turkey.
Nowadays the word "terrorist" is slapped onto any organization or group one's geopolitical sphere is opposed to.
The Mujahedeen, most of whom became members of the Taliban, were lauded as honorable defenders of Afghanistan when it was the Soviets they were fighting.
@AVA_Beats that is true to some extent, but there are still plenty of actual terrorists. It's more common for a group which should be labeled as terrorists not to be than the other way around, like you said with the mujahideen.
There's a large minority of Syrian Turks who live along the Turkish/Syrian border. They have been there since Ottoman times and are ethnically related to Azerbaijanis of Western/Northwestern Iran.
Turkey has had to protect those communities from ethnic cleansing by Assad as well as hostile Kurdish tribes.
ottoman only one who aknowledged we exist and we had peace region for hundred to 3 hundred year
Also Iraqi Turkmen on the Turkish border and up to Kerkuk
@@Ungehorsam I think that might be what the comment was about
Please don't fall into the trap of conflating the PKK/YPG with "the Kurds". Kurds are a politically diverse group. Only a small minority actually are part of PKK/YPG or even support them. You can find far more Kurds who are pro Turkey and even more who are just apolitical and hate the politics. The idea of calling PKK/YPG, "The Kurds" is a completely modern Western concept that started when Washington found that the PKK/YPG were very useful foot soldiers for the US to get control of Syrian oil. So now they are hiding a US oil grab behind this Marxist terror group.
In a way Turkey is right, it's hypocritical to fight a terrorist organisation by supporting another terrorist organisation just because the other one didn't kill civilians in your own country... Yet
You couldnt explain better. If USA wants to know what happens when you support YPG and PKK look no further than france and what they did this year
They literally have the same members. They just created a 2nd organisation with a different name. It is quite hilarious that it's working.
lol is Turkey not hypocritical? they for example support Palestinian right to self-determination and deny Kurds' right to self-determination. they ignor Uyghurs for financial reasons.
Most of the territory kurds hold is populated by an arab majority, much more so before the Civil War or where do you think the millions of refugees living outside syria come from
ypg is ethnically cleansing syrian Arabs from northern syria and giving fellow kurds stolen originally arab houses abd villages
Many of the girls used in marketing are around 16years old and were kidnapped as children by ypg at the ages of 5-12
On the basis of my other reply, it's pretty clear israel is more comparable to kurds in this situation
Why Türkiye is in Syria? You can see the most important information about this conflict in this TH-cam video:
" Senior US general explains rebranding YPG away from terror group PKK "
0:29 you couldn't possibly compose a worse map from the sources you had provided. You had just randomly colored some places on the map, not even fitting with your reference maps.
whats a better map?
Nah this is a pretty good map, only contention would be to include Goranis in Iran which speak a Kurdish dialect which they didn't include
@@Lockfly😂😂😂 yeah ya keep on telling yourself that lil man
Its simple really. As a Turkish person watching everything unfold, how can anyone expect us to trust nato or west? I can clearly feel that no matter what Turkish state or nation does to please west we never get the respect we deserve. So if you have Turkophobia please take your seat and watch what your stupid fear over some ethnicity (or maybe religion) end up created. Trust is broken once.
Erdogan is playing the religion game
As a turkish person why are you trying to please somebody else, do you not have backbone?
@@OmegazJokerZoruna mı gitti? Dedikleri sonuna kadar haklı.
US be like :
We want "freedom" for lands with oil
We support separatist groups🦅
so we can use newborn governments
Kurdistan should be free from turkish and arab fascism, it will happen one day hopefully soon
About separatist movements in Syria...
US be like : we need to bring “democracy” to Kurdistan✌🏻😎
Russia supports Donbass*
USA be like: This is terrorism!!!🤬🤬
The US ain’t in Syria. Get your facts right!
@@alessandro_junior_007 The US ain’t in Syria. Get your facts right! Russia wants to annex Donbas. The US does NOT want to annex Kurdistan.
@@anonymoususer8895 But the United States has already annexed *60%* of Mexican territory, annexed Hawaii, and continues to occupy Guantánamo Bay.🤡
It would be a bit hypocritical of them to criticize Russian annexation lol🤭😂
What is Usa doing in thousands miles away from their soil which is Turkeys security alert zone .
Protecting Turkish borders? Guess not. US even pulled out their Patriot batteries during a time when fighting was most heated in Syria.
Could say the same about Turkey in Lybia
@@romanhama5377 Libya is just around the corner dude. We share the same maritime border.
@@vkuyrukcu If I were to sell illegal stuff in my town or in another planet, would that make it any less different for the ones suffering from it?
@@romanhama5377 Libian elected government asked and signed security deal with Turkey so Turkey send troops to stop General Hafter whom is trying to put there by Us and France . how is that sound to you ? truths hurt ?
So many unemployed turks and arabs in the comments
All in Germany.
I'm a simple man. I see a TLDR News video, I dislike it.
Based
As a Kurdish citizen of Turkiye who has never voted or Erdoğan, I completely agree with what he is doing in this matter. I don't want a Kurdish state that will be founded by terrorist organizations and will be a repeat of Arab countries in the region. If USA can be a multi ethnic democracy why can't Turkiye, Syria or Iraq be that?
And also we are part of the NATO and we even have their bases in Turkiye. So why is USA looking for other allies which we consider terrorists in the region? What are the intentions and interests that leads them to look for allies opposing Turkiye?
I think the difference between other Multi-Ethnic countries and the USA is that everyone chooses to live in the USA, and nobody chooses to live in a Multi-Ethnic country
Edit: I mean today, not back 200 years ago, where everyone forced to be in America is dead by now
It's brain dead US foreign policy 😵💫
Ur mountain Turk
My problem with Erdoğan, is that he is a anti democracy/imperialist. He is not happy with the US and the kurdish, but he has no problem with harbouring leaders from the HAMAS terrorist group,that wants the genocide of Jews and likes to hide behind innocent civilians and children. Not to forget that they live like royalty in Turkey, Qatar and other places, while the Palestinian people suffer, mostly because of the decisions of their leaders. Palestine was never an independent country, neither the kurdish. But what Erdoğan is not ready to give the kurdish,he thinks the Israeli must give to the Palestinian. HYPOCRISY AND DOUBLE STANDARDS AT IT'S WORST.
Agree as a Turk
Turkish here. I grow up seeing the PKK terorism in Turkey. I have seen the worst years, 90ies where there were no day without a group of Turkish soldiers being attacked or killed on the news. That is a 40 year old problem.
We all grow up together with Kurdish friends, they never been any different than our Turkish friends and this is still the case. The extremist and separatist group is very very minor. This is good to underline.
I just wanted to underline that these kind of videos are usually clickbait and the video includes many wrong information. But this one is very well prepared and informative. Kudos to the team worked on this. I don't have much to add.
US and Europe has always backed PKK and PYD (YPG in this video) both in weapons, politically and money-wise. Up until now, most of the high level PKK members are in Sweden. That is the reason Turkey is not allowing them in NATO.
The most recent military developments in Turkey puts Turkey in a good position against PKK and that should be upsetting US for their own benefits.
For Europe, yes, they did supported PKK, probably due to turkophobia and racism against turks. For US, its more recent, before US, Russians supported and helped found the PKK which designates itself as communist.
@@adamfarmer7665Don't attribute to malice what can be attributed to raw self-interest. Most of the West doesn't care and is not pro-PKK or anti-Turk (maybe anti-Muslim). The only people who care about your conflict here are leftists, because they see Kurds as oppressed progressive socialist victims. Our leaders probably only helped the YPG because they advance our geopolitical interests in the Middle East.
@@felixb6The EU is supporting terrorism no matter how much you deny it.
Like you said, its malice - malicious intent, in the form of geopolitical reason of destablizing turkey. Same reason why Turkey is bribed to hold millions of refugees, to destablize turkey. They see "PKK and YPG" "as oppressed progressive socialist victims", not Kurds, majority of the Kurds in Turkey do not support PKK and YPG, PKK and YPG have people of kurdish origin, they are not "Kurds" as a whole. Its depicted as "Kurds" to support a narrative maliciously. @@felixb6
I grew up seeing dead Armenians from the Armenian genocide in Syria. Yet your government denied it ever happened.
Syria is right next to Turkey. The United States is coming from across the Atlantic and causing trouble.
Turkey is still an occupier of Syria either way. Doesn’t matter how far away they are.
Basically the same lame excuse russia used to invade Ukraine.
@@doncorleone1553 You do realise there are Turkmen in syria? Literally our people are in Syria and we are trying our best to protect them. Plus we got terrorist problems as well.
Turkey is the one attacking.
Don't tread on us or our faithful allies.
What an ally. First support and protect the terrorists who want to separate our nation then attack us when we attack the terrorists.
Just because they’re Kurds, doesn’t mean they’re terrorists. FYI that also applies to Armenians.
@@danielcavender1092 they run drug trade to fund their operations, steal syrias oil, kidnap children from villages and use child soldiers and they are an off shoot of a recognized terror organization. If thats not terrorism, then what is?!?
But it's no way near Mongolia?
mongolia and turks were soo different@@popdartan7986
actually if turks were really bombing innocent kurds then turkiye woulndt breathe from sanctions
but thre isnt any sanction why?
think about it@@danielcavender1092
We consider ISIS (IS/ISIL) a terrorist organization in Turkiye. We have been hit by bombing attacks by those jihadi terrorist militants in Istanbul and Ankara, just like Paris and London. Turkish Armed Forces neutralized its so-called leader, terrorist El-Baghdadi.
But we have also been experiencing same kind of terrorism by PKK (YPG/KCK). We have been hit in Istanbul, Ankara and many other cities by PKK terrorist militants. We witnessed a bombing attack outside Vodafone Arena Stadium after a soccer match, people died and there were blood and missing body parts everywhere. Horrible!
But the thing what we are having difficulty to understand is the fact that why our supposedly NATO allies supplying ammunition to this terrorist organization which are used to carry out terrorist attack in our metropolitan areas which results in losses of many civilian "casualties".
Please empathize and think for just a second. An armed terrorist organization who claims to be freedom fighters, true believers or any ideological fundamentalism carrying on armed assaults and car bombing activities within your border. They don't even distinguish army or civilians. And your supposedly allies in a "mutual defense" organization is systematically supplying them arms and weapons which are revealed in both open declarations and ballistic investigations.
What would be you think and feel? Please be sincere.
Don't forget that many human rights organizations are pushing for the removal of the PKK from terrorist lists because they are acting like internal conflict actors.
And a few courts have also been pushing for this because Turkey has been unable to prove legally that the PKK should be labeled terrorists rather than civil war combatants
I think a lot of people in the west sympathize with the Turkish point of view. US foreign policy in the region is centered around Zionism. My theory is they interfere in Syria to keep them weak so they arent a threat to Israel.
i have a radical idea, let the kurds have their own state, they are an independence movement fighting a government that for a very long time refused to even accept their existence and banned their culture and langauge, are you surprisded many of them hate you? forcing your will on them again and again will do nothing but maintain this conflict. is your desire for land worth it?
Wanting independence is understandable mate but killing civilians, firing busses with commuters within, arsoning forests, ... is not.
I support political rights and freedom of speech but not violence and terrorism.
I believe there is a difference between those for reasonable persons.
@@tim211292uhm hello Israel? Palestians? Hypocracy?
Two perspectives can be true simultaneously:
1. The US is aiding Kurdish separtists. Doing so creates favorable oil conditions for themselves.
2. Withdrawing US troops from Syria will lead to more violence from Middle Eastern terrorist groups, authoritarian Middle Eastern countries, and Russia.
Us troops and the destruction of syrai has caused this.
Us troops are behind all the trrorist
All of this started with the europeans meddling in middle eastern affairs since oil has been discovered in the area. The muslims pretty much only fought each other (shia vs sunni, salafists vs moderates) before the colonizers arrived. The only reason any terrorism is happening in the west is because of the british and americans propping up these extremist dictators to control the oil coming out. Same thing with the Kurds like you said. They don’t care about terrorism, it’s just a casus belli to legitimize their strategic and business interests. It’s literally putting gas on to put out a fire.
When the west completely leaves the middle east alone, then things might slowly start to turn to normal. Although the geopolitical situation has been set up so that there will be conflict, so it will be slow and bloody. It’s either that or it will stay stagnant and lead to even more bloodshed until a few decades after the oil runs out.
@@kaankanca4634 America certainly does have a lot to answer for. I agree with that. However, I do have to correct one point. The islamic empires definitely did not keep their conflicts among themselves. Since the beginning of Islam in the 8th century until the fall of the Ottoman Empire in the 20th century, Islamic lands have launched conquest against and established colonies in any land they could. All in order to convert the locals to their tradition and establish favorable trade. Sound familiar. They conquered Spain, Greece, Morrocco, Egypt, etc. Sure, many of those are Muslim countries today, but that is only because the islamic empires conquered them.
This isn't to justify what europeans did. It is just illustrating in a timeline where europeans tried not to interfere with the Middle East, islamic lands would still be launching attacks against non islamic lands.
Tbh idoubt its about human lifesor oil this is most likely for preparation for war possibility against Turkey
The reason why "terrorist" organisations exist in the first place is because of US intervention.
You are clearly an american so you should know this(maybe you are not idk), if middle east is in turmoil USA gains resources from it. There is no "fighting terrorist groups". All this is done by design.
Also what Ottoman Empire did is NOT "colonializm". That is because back then nationalizm was not a thing. Every piece of land and its people under Ottoman banner was free to follow their religion, use their language and carry on with their culture in general. I know this because my grand grandmother was a christian.
What sparked the change of this was spreading idea of nationalizm. People wanted their own free states. And arabic lands were literally provoked by british to rebel against ottoman empire and was promised their own "nation". Again Ottoman empire was not a "nation" and it went completely against the spread of nationalizm at the time.
And that was one of the reason why Ottoman Empire commited the armenian genocide, which btw i accept the fact that it happened as a turk. Ottoman Empire was scared armeniens would want their own nation aswell and commited horrible actions because they were paranoid. In this subject however i would also like to point out current republic of Turkey is NOT ottoman empire. In fact when we started the independence war which again was sparked by spread of nationalizm, Ottoman Empire literally declared us rebels when the republic was formed!
What i am saying is, its not about really someone answering for crimes or not. Every action a country, empire or a nation in general takes, is for their own gains. There is no morality in politics. Thats why i find this USA's "fighting terrorists" propaganda very stupid. Anyone who belives that has no idea how politics work.
why exactly US is in midlle east?
middle east is thosunds of kilometers away from US but they are in there
but turkey is bordering middle east so it makes no sense what US doing
Hum maybe it's all the oil there that the rest of the world needs 🤔
Stealing oil I guess?
We’ve been involved in the Middle East to some degree since our founding. It all started with the Barbary Wars
@@HollowVortex81 Europe is beginning to lean towards the U.S. for their fuel imports, so it makes sense why we’d have less of a reason to be in the region nowadays
@@HollowVortex81 protecting since when stealing something became "protecting"
Turkey's concerns are fair and legitimate this time
No, they are not. Syria is a sovereign country and has asked them to leave Syria. Neither US or Turkey should be occupying Syria.
@@skepticsphere5930 you know that same terrorist groups kill people in Turkey right?
Turkey entered into Syria where there is no sovereign country because in order to have sovereign country, you need to control country. If you are out of control, to stop terrorism spreading, 1 can intercept if not massacaring any1 after nor having nationalistic evil hidden agenda. Which Turkiye does not and Turkiye looses money every month with this economy to help that region. Turkiye is the no1. country in the world that makes humanitarian aid to poorer nations when compared with overall economy GDP. European hypocrisy is European not Turkish. Turkish culture is more Balkan and Asian but not European. You can call Turks not well modernized, sometimes emotionaland sometimes acting stupid but never hypocritic.@@skepticsphere5930
@@skepticsphere5930 The syrian-arab state and al-Assad still have some chlorine attacks to account for. Syria got on a path to be a russian client, where russian urban siege doctrine propped up al-Assad.
@@skepticsphere5930 which assad needs to ask putin bc he invited putin in syria and putin invited turkey in syria after ISIS ypg and pkk got together to launch katyusha rockets to the turkısh border ofc thıs was ıgnored at the fırst 2-3 years as assad said he had it under control : spoiler : he didnt had it under control so with the invite from russia turkey went in also assad really didnt mind as hım and erdogan at the time was friends so yea turkey is kinda safe game .. for now atleast
so.....oil?
As a Turkish citizen, i have to thank TLDR team for preparing a non-biased news. I also want to add, PKK have killed and abducted many (thousands) children from Turkish villages for decades and this has been an ungoing fight. Many civilians have suffered in the eastern region of Türkiye...
How can turkey give morality lessons to anyone when it can't even recognize its own wrongdoings ? Not even the Armenian Genocide lmao
Schengen visa denials to turks reached a record this year, i hope they reach a Guinness world record
I love TLDR's works! Here are my constructive feedbacks to make your work better.
Map shows that some parts of Central and Northeastern Anatolia are where Kurdish population is majority but it is false. There are some comments which argues these maps are from the times that dissolution of Ottoman Empire happened but as far as I know this was not correct as well. Another point from me, US's and many Western countries' labeling PKK as a terrorist group could have been mentioned for those who don't know the issue. Finally, the UAV shot down by the US army wasn't belonged to Turkish army but Turkish Intelligence Agency. This helped both countries to avoid flaring up the tensions however some concerns needed to be addressed to soften public discourse. If this weren't an UAV, according to me, the loss of military personnel would have a greater impact on the relations.
Büyük olasılıkla İncirlik ve Kürecik üssleri kapatılırdı.
Kaldıki ABD'nin Suriye ve Filistin politikaları böyle devam ederse yakında bu iki üssün kapatılması çok olasıdır
Those are Kurdish people forcibly displaced by Turkish government, part of ethnic cleansing procedure
@@simko28 as a person who sees the world as a mix of people categorized within different groups of identities, I acknowledge that in the history there have been obviously and certainly Kurdish people in the mentioned areas as is the case today. But I think sometimes you should also get away from your nationalist myths. Because the map in the video and my comment is about places where Kurds are majority. Nationalist myths always assume that their nation was at the center of everything before others. To put it mildly, your ethnic cleansing argument about the mentioned areas is baseless. Part of the world that Armenians or Kurds aren’t majority doesn’t necessarily mean that they had been majority once upon a time and then murdered by the Turks. Sometimes there are just people who repeat their baseless ideological arguments together with hostility they cannot suppress at every opportunity.
@@simko28
Türk hükümetinde(Ak Parti), birkaç Bakan Kürt kökenli, 50'nin üzerinde Kürt kökenli milletvekili var, binlerce bürokrat, yüzlerce danışman Kürt kökenli!
Türkiye'nin Kürtlerle sorunu yok, Türkiye'nin sorunu, bir kukla terör örgütü olan Pkk ve uzantılarıyla.
All this effort to stop the Ottoman Empire from ever getting back together again?
Did you see what Germany did after wwi when they started down the same path that the Ottoman empire is on?
Well yeah, we're still dealing with the mess of the Ottoman empire. Armenian genocide, invasion of Cyprus etc.
Turkey still occupies Constantinople and large areas of Thrace.
No, it's well-known that that won't happen in any event.
@@alanay It's obvious that there won't be a restoration of the Ottoman Empire. The idea is preposterous. If I had said that it's well-known that there won't be a restoration of the Roman Empire, would you have challenged that too? Your last sentence is irrelevant - the Ottoman Empire is what we're talking about. This is such an obvious point that I'm not interested in discussing it further. Blocked.
@@otisdylan9532erdogan has dreams though.
7:16 it is not 2009, it is 2019
Summary of the conflict:
US wants to defend Israel in the region against Syria and Iran, wants to gain control over the area and get the oil at the same time, by causing instability in the region and using Kurdish groups as a disposable manpower.
Turkey wants US to stop arming Kurdish groups who uses those weapons against Turkey and creating a big national threat.
I leave it to you to decide which side's motive is more meaningful...
Do Kurds not have a right to self determination or self defense?
@@beausheffield1895kurds were threatened only by ISIS. Neither Assad nor Erdogan inititiated fighting with the Kurds.
What self defense you are talking about.
@@beausheffield1895 does Crimea have the right to self determination? If you are going to give the right of self determination to any separatist movement then give to every single one around the globe.
This sums it up. Thank you.
@@salmanahmadabbasi6791 I don’t mean to “Insult your Turkish Nation”, but it seems to me that you lost the right to govern the Kurds as you can’t seem to stop killing them 40000 have died most of whom were civilians. It’s bad enough that you still deny the Greek and Armenian genocides. You’re going to try an deny the one you’re committing right now against the Kurds?
Türkiye is not fighting the USA. Turkey is fighting the YPG terrorist organization, which has carried out numerous terrorist attacks in Turkey. The real problem is that the USA provides weapons and equipment to these terrorist organizations.
0:31 this map has nothing to do with reality. There is no Kurdish majority in Türkiye other than east-southeast.
so from this video I have learnt that my home village was Kurdish xd...
majorirty... Majority...
Do a DNA test.
bunlar ankara ve konya bile kurdistan olarak koymuslar amk
US control of the oil fields in north-east Syria was to deny ISIS any revenue from the oil. Helping the Kurds process their own oil, is simply making sure the Kurds have the resources to continue fighting ISIS in that area.
… And to get the oil. We runnin was short, ya know.
😉surely
There is no isis anymore
More like helping themselves
@@marknunya3107I mean we export more than we import... labor and processing just cheaper elsewhere. Also saves time/ money transporting to Europe
The US needs oil? Nah they just want more money lol
I know SPR is low, but that's a recent development
Turkey must set up a military base in Mexico at the border of USA
😂😂😂 The cartels would destroy it in a day 😂😂😂
America is working with Mexico snd isn't trying to invade them.
You can see the double moral of USA they supporting Israel against hamas but they defend pkk/ypg against Turkey
I don't see the double standard there. The YPG proved to be a valuable ally in the fight against ISIS; whereas, Turkey did next to nothing to fight ISIS, not even curbing the flow of ISIS recruits through their territory. Meanwhile, Hamas has American blood on their hands, not just in this recent conflict, but going all the way back to when the group was established. While the United States does not tacitly support what Israel is/has been doing to the Palestinians, when it comes to Hamas, we've also run out of f***s to give. Furthermore, Turkey just has not proven itself to be a reliable ally to the United States or NATO at all. The way I see it, the United States is simply just remembering who its actual friends are.
@@ccvcharger in wich World do you live turkey started a ground offensive against Isis.
Why the al nusra also fighted against Isis what makes them different terrorists are fighting against terrorists.
Turkey is the most important ally for USA.
Turkey is the only NATO member that tries to deescalate.
@@ccvchargerTurkey is their ally, NOT YPG.
Because Hamas is just like isis they are a terrorist group but YPJ is the only tolerance and Democratic Party in entire Middle East including Turkey that’s why
It's almost like early US foreign policy of staying away from entangling alliances was a good idea
The US ain’t in Syria. Get your facts right!
No. It wasn't. If you actually learn US history, there's no good case for isolationism that can be made. It fails everytime.
@@scottgleeson4905 isolationist and entangling alliances are not the same thing.
Entangling alliances would be allying ourselves with Saudi Arabia and Israel and Qatar. Even though all three of them don't like each other.
The Kurds have fought with us for decades we will not allow Turkey take that right from them.
And no mention of how the borders were drawn to deny Kurds a nation? Sykes-Picot in 1916 set the stage for most of this mess.
Because they aren't a nation. They are originally Persians that assimilated in time. They never had own language or lands
@@barisveesitlik9310 Their DNA, history, culture and language says otherwise. Where is the proof for this ridiculous claim of your?
@@romanhama5377 Actually what you are saying is ridiculous. Do you speak Persian or Kurdish? It's the same language lol. My grandma is Kurdish, I lived with them. They are being used by Western countries unfortunately
@@romanhama5377 What history also? Name one Kurdish country in the history? Lol
@@barisveesitlik9310 Hahaha you stupid fool, I thought you would never ask 😂
Very well here is the answer to your question: To name a Kurdish country in history hope you are ready 😁
Hope you don't delete your comment now
Early entities: 770-1836 AD
Sadakiyans (770-827)
Daysam (938-955)
Hadhabanis (906-1080)
Aishanids (912-961)
Shaddadids (951-1199)
Rawwadids (955-1071)
Hasanwayhids (959-1014)
Marwanids (983-1096)
Annazids (990/91-1117)
Shabankara (11th century-12th century)
Principality of Eğil (1049-1864, Diyarbakir)
Hazaraspids (1115-1425)
Ayyubid dynasty (1171-1341)
Principality of Bitlis (1187-1847)
Vassaldom of Ardalan (14th century-1865 or 1868)
Zakarids (1161-1360)
Emirate of Çemişgezek (13th century-1663)
Mukriyan (14th century-19th century)
Zarrinnaal Dynasty (1448-1925)
Emirate of Pazooka (1499-1587)
Principality of Suleyman (15th century-1838)
Emirate of Soran (before 1514-1836)
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Remnants of the Ayyubid Dynasty (13th century-19th century)
Various Kurdish political entities blossomed in the period after the disestablishment of the Ayyubid dynasty in 1260. Some of these rulers claimed descent from the Ayyubids.
Principality of Donboli (1210-1799)
Emirate of Bingöl (1231-1864)
Emirate of Hasankeyf (1232[28]-1524])
Emirate of Kilis
Emirate of Şirvan (?-1840s)
Emirate of Hakkâri (?-1845)
Principality of Zirqan (1335-1835)
Emirate of Bahdinan (1339-1843)
Emirate of Bohtan (?-1833)
Principality of Mahmudi (1406-1839)
Principality of Pinyaşi (1548-1823)
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Other dynasties of Kurdish ancestry
Zand dynasty (1750-1794) - The dynasty is of Kurdish Lak origin.
Safavid dynasty (1501-1736) - The dynasty was partly of Kurdish origin.
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20th-21st century entities
Kurdish State (1918-1919)
Kingdom of Kurdistan (1921-1924 and 1925)
Kurdistansky Uyezd (1923-1929) and Kurdistan Okrug (1930)
Republic of Ararat (1927-1931)
Republic of Mahabad (1946-1947)
Republic of Laçin (1992)
Kurdistan regional government (1992 - to this day)
----------------------------------------------------------------------Sources are implied here easy to follow and verify
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Kurdish_dynasties_and_countries
5:24 It's dark comedy how Americans keep using the term (we shot back in self-defense) over and over again when they are being in others' countries, uninvited, performing covert COMBAT missions...man the moment you cross the borders of another country without approval you're no different from thos who you are try to fearmonger your own people for crossing your southern borders😉, so, if you're entitled to fire back in self-defense, that means those people are also entitled to do the same.
Question: haven't you noticed that wherever US is intervening, regional instability & turmoil strike?
I know they have comedic responses, if they were legally entitled to be there in the 1st place they would have said - we acted in accordance to our obligations in International Law and Rules Based Order.
But since they are not in Syria legally....they do the self defence thing and their public believes them.
@@Vulcan_111 Not a single country in the world, including the United States, recognises "Kurdistan". It is the sovereign territory of the Syrian Arab Republic.
@@Vulcan_111 I hate to break it to you but there is a tiny issue with that statement which is the fact that Kurdistan is only a region and not a country.
@@Vulcan_111 What's Kurdistan?
As a Turkish I can say that Türkiye has to find another commercial partners and alliances and has to produce their own nukes with +10000 km ranged hypersonic ballistic missiles
As always, the US is sticking their noses where it doesn't belong.
turkey glazer
@@cia5649 The fuck does that even mean.
@@DeadGlassEyes i guess you glaze turkeys.
Then it won't be murica anymore
Then they leave, and everyone begs them to go back in. . .
The US will never learn from its mistake of supporting extremists.
I know they should kick turkey out of nato already
@@littleking1994twowe will see
bad move nato needs turkiye@@littleking1994two
It’s all about the Bosporus
@@littleking1994twothat would give Türkiye a reason to do more extreme things when NATO isn’t there to hold them accountable
0:30 Wtf? How is nearly all of Anatolia "Kurdish Majority Area"? 🤣
nearly all? its not even half, and there are 20 m kurds alot of provinces are majority kurdish
@@meretricioussimp7759 Haha, yeah! LMAO 🤣
The us is incredibly stupid to keep selling f16s to turkey. The US should ban the export of f110 engines. Let the pathetic Turkish "fighterjet" fly with hopes and dreams
Türkiye have 900 km border line with Syria so what do u have America 9000 km flight ??
Guys, which political party in the US is against presence in the middle east?
Trick question. They're both for it, while the small elements of both parties that aren't controlled by the Washington establishment are against it.
@@dansands8140 and besides the main two?
@@HM-iy3dc All the parties besides the main two are almost certainly controlled opposition. There's a reason the communists and libertarians have reputations for being morons and lunatics. Green party is probably real but they're morons without help.
None we need to worry about.
The US ain’t in Syria. Get your facts right!
Fight between USA and Turkey is some kind of friendly fight at all, a small fight between two friends who get along well in many things with some exceptions that cause temporary fights. it will never get so big. Both countries need each other.
no.
they have conflicting interests
When you shoot down an aircraft (in this case , a drone) it's serious. And no, the US doesn't need turkey but you keep telling yourself that 😂
The USA-Turkey relationship has become frayed during Erdogan's time in office, largely because of Erdogan's obsession with the Kurdish issue, but also because of his drift towards authoritarianism which also upsets Europe.
Europe fears another ottoman empire. Hell everyone fears another ottoman empire. @@scottgleeson4905
No. Turkey hasn't been complaint about US sport for Kurds. They are complaining about support for a terrorist organisation
Which is hilariously ironic because turkey is the one supportive of hamas and isis 😂😂😂
@@nostro1940 clearly the only research you've done is Tik tok videos
@@aydinturhan9698says the illiterate turk 😂 your trt news brainwash has worked in lowering your lQ that wasn't high to beguin with. The whole world knows how pathetic turkey is. Enjoy the lira inflation
USA be like: Aman petr'oil! Canım petr'oil! Sana, sana, sana, sana muhtacım petr'oil!
Lausanne and Lucerne are two different cities, so you may want to pronounce the name of the treaty properly as well
NATO doesn't mean that countries allied with US. It means countries that aillied with each other for PEACE at home peace in the world. So main question is "If US/Turkey/any NATO member joins to conflict against non-NATO country that bombing hospitals, killing thousands of innocent civillians trying to displace people because thay are muslim/jewish etc., for defending millions of innocent civillians; what should NATO allies do?".
I think your question should be if a terriost organization uses human shield hiding under hospitals using innocent people money to create missiles and send them on civilians and crying about the "death" of innocent lives you are an hypocrite
7:22 when you hear OIL and US in one sentence 💀💀
Ok?? US controls Oil fields? would you rather have the terroist control them and make money, buy more weapons and become stronger? US doesn't need the oil.
There is no 30 million not even 10 million Kurds. Population much much lower. Less than 7-8 million in Middle East. They speak different language , not understanding each other.
What the hell is going on with the maps? It's like they gave a drunk a pencil and showed him what map he was supposed to draw looks like and then didn't bother to check if he got the map wrong. I know that you guys need to rush this content but it might end up misrepresenting the actual events you were supposed to inform us about.
no its all true!!1!!1! Ankara is rightful kurdish land !!!11!!1111!!!!!!!!!1!
Kurds don’t have a UN recognized country, it’s illegal invasion regardless of oil or not, neither US or turkey have a right to be in syria.
At least the Russians and iranians were invited by the UN recognized govt of syria.
the Kurds have the right to fight for Kurdistan by any means necessary
@@mikeriley3556come border and try it
erdoğan is right at least in this situation. it is border of turkiye and syria. what is america doing in another country even another continent? and it is not very important to name them as a terrorist or not. if they attack to turkish border or even to turkiye's capital city, turkiye gonna respond. and its truly understandable why turkiye builds a buffer zone. because there is a lot of refugees in turkiye. and they want to be sure refugees gonna be okay in syria so they build a safe zone for them.
So turkey has the right to invade syria even tho it didn't get attacked but turkey criticizes Israel for invading gaza?
If hypocrisy had a homecountry that would be Turkey
Wow, this is some mind opening, and mind boggling news, man! Thanks for sharing this. This is putting some pieces to my puzzle together.
REALLY? Tldr is bullshit. if this is mind opening then you know nothing of the middle east, Turkiye or the terror organisations in the region.
Article 5 hurt itself in its confusion.
Edit: it's a joke. Now start a war in the replies.
Article 5 doesn't cover the Middle East. Only Europe and North America. If someone attacked Guam or French Guyana, it would not trigger Article 5.
*Its S U P E R E F F E C T I V E*
W-what?!? Turkey is evolving!......
The confusion was caused by the hurt, not the other way around so this statement makes no sense
@@MinecraftMasterNo1 No but it covers NATO and Turkey and the US is NATO.
It said if someone (State only, not non-state actor) attacked one of NATO then all other NATO will come to help
It is sad that TLDR insists on not addressing PKK as a terrorist organization. 5 minutes of research is enough to find that PKK is internationally recognized as a terrorist organization...
But they would "hurt" westoids and ignorants that way. Of course they'd refuse to see Turkiye is right.
Cry more.
@@a_kazakis Oh. I see a regular Greek troll here. You guys should grow up already. Get a personality.
Yeah, but many would also consider the Turkish government to be a terror organisation.
What with them invading Cyprus.
@@user-ds8rj2vc4vyeah keep crying. You are probably either Greek or Armenian. Or just hate Turkey for some other reason
You did not say that the PKK is designated as terror organization by the West
The map 0:33 is quite misleading, those are no Kurdish “settlements”. Those are Kurdish cities and villages that have been decolonised.
Turkey should never have been let into NATO.
You would have lost the Korean War, and North Korea would have been a bigger player then now.
Why? America is the one whose wrong here
We, as Turks, are extremely uncomfortable being in NATO, please remove us.
If it wasn't for turkiye there wouldn't be NATO
You turks are so ridiculously narcissistic
Ww3 might just happen I’d thought it’ll happen out in the Asian pacific
That’s where the biggest wars have been *ending* for the past 120 years
What is the difference between ISIS and USA? It seems that they are the same organization.
Only to an ignorant turk who only watches trt. The rest of the world saw russian satellite footage of isis oil trucks going to turkey
May Türkiye reclaim Türkmeneli! 🇹🇷🤍🇮🇱
Thank you friend for your support. Israel is a beautiful country I want to visit Israel as a Turkish
@@DoofyGilmore1299 and I want to visit Türkiye someday soon. Also, Türkçe öğreniyorum. Türkiye seviyorum İsrail'den 🇮🇱🤍🇹🇷
@@AvrahamYairStern תודה bro I have a huge respect for your people you guys had to face massacres, polgroms, blamed for all the problems but you guys survived and manage to create your own country in your ancestral lands and manage to defend it. Even tho I am a muslim I cant help but show respect. I wish you guys finally can achieve peace
@@DoofyGilmore1299 being Muslim doesn't have to mean we can't have respect for each other. I have Muslim friends, they're great people and I wish all Muslims could be like this, we both just want peace. Türkiye is a great country, good food, good people, good culture and history, I can't wait to visit!
@@AvrahamYairStern yes bro I also have a jewish friend, I want a middle eas where jews and muslims can live together in harmony. I hope you can come and visit Turkiye soon, take care of yourself friend.
Just read the history especially war between UK and Ottoman in this region. Treaty of Serves explain everything
What's Turkeys business In SYRIA? I bet it's so noble…..
Both the US and Turkey are illegally occupying sovereign Syrian territory, according to the United Nations charter.
The Iranians and Russians were invited into Syria by the internationally recognised Syrian Government. Hence their military presence is legal and lawfull.
UN Charter, article #51...
Technically turks have got Russian consent who themselves were invited by the syrians
except for the fact that just as skp87 said turks got the consent from russıans and also bashar did invite the turkısh military for operation europhats shield * i spelled that wrong but i think u get the point
Man i love Trump😂 Spoiling a very secretive topic infront of the press and insisting on every detail of it
@@danielbuddenmusic1502He is right. You're just saying he is idiot because so he failed at that plan. Was that plan any good for you? Imagine, just destroying an country for oil trough you call him an idiot because he didn't wanted to ruin Iraq?
@@danielbuddenmusic1502 He was commander in chief and were obviously told the reason.It's just that Trump has no diplomatic filter so he spoken it aloud.
@@j.k.1239commander in chief of what he was told.
30 million Kurds? The lowest estimates are at about the 50-55 million zone. There are at least 25 million Kurds in northern Kurdistan occupied by Turkey.
it should be 20 million as I remember, there are lots of kurds in turkey
There is no occupied Kurdistan. Kurdish population is 18-25 Million.
North America, Australia and NZ are occupied by Anglo-Saxons, so what?
The real question is: WTF is Syria doing in Syria?!
Türkiye is nato what are the Americans doing in the black see and Syria and Irak you understand Turks are nato we don’t need back up .
We no longer use the name "Turkey" but "Türkiye". This new name is used both in diplomatic sources and in the UN, OECD, EU and other international organizations.
No one cares you are not privileged to have a name in your own language to be used everywhere.
Omg you still coping about that? 😂 Turks really have low self esteem 😂 🦃
If a country wants to hurt the Turkish people , it just has to refer to their country as turkey
Let me write about what happened in northern Syria. Syria's most productive water and oil resources are in this region. Although the organization in that region is a socialist organization, it is financed by capitalists. A useful apparatus was needed for Israel and the US and it was found in that region :)) They are taking their last steps in this region before heading to the Pacific. As long as this process continues like this, Turkey and the US will most likely part ways. The US largely lost control over Turkey after 2016. There are two major obstacles left in front of them in the Arab spring and the great Middle East project, one of which is Turkey and the other is Iran. This stage will not be easy for them.
sounds funny hope turkey leaves Nato fast so we can finaly act against them + stop the easier access to the eu market, stop the blackmailing and put up again weapon export controls on turkey (and no turkey is by far not ready to do it alone, for that still far to many parts come from western companies + allies)
Also we can support Greece more without caring about Turkish crying
Greetings from Germany
Rojava was only militarily backed by the US, not at all financed. Most of its income comes from oil and agriculture, and the US is not one of their main economic partners. Turkey is a quasi fascist state and Iran is a ruthless theocracy. I hate the US as your next person, being a socialist from Brasil, and rly stand with Iran when it is about defending it's soberany against imperialism but 1- Erdogan will never get the guts to part ways with one of their biggest actual partner out of the Middle East, and 2- I'll never support Iran's government
The US doesn't want Turkey out of NATO, Turkey doesn't want out of NATO, and there is no mechanism to remove a country from NATO once it is in.
@@Ventosis Ultimately, these two countries will decide the bond between themselves. For now, this bond has not been completely broken. As soon as it is completely disconnected, it has no meaning whether it is a NATO member or not.
The YPG and it's actual politics are socialistic, true
Like nearly all countries in Europe do prefer to act economically.
The US really needs to get out, Why Syria? that place has been lost like Afghanistan
6:55 never back down never what?
It's not a question of "if" Türkiye will bail on NATO, but when. And it is to be expected, because Türkiye conducts itself to it's own ends, in all matters.
This is not a NATO issue. NATO's vision is clear and Turkiye shares it. It doesn't bind anyone to do anything for its borders. Also we are the border of the NATO. Turkiye thinks her interests like any other country in the world, we call it "foreign policy". if you don't know, suggest you to check what it is. The world is not a playground of the USA.
Turkey will never leave NATO, the government higher ups are deeply interconnected with the west, especially the UK. The opposition parties are actually more anti-western than the current government.
What a childish thing to say. Turkey is trying to protect its own people and interests. The USA is also trying to protect the interests of Israel, sorry, its own people. What the USA is doing in this region on the other side of the world is a bigger crime. Otherwise, it is a crime; Doing things that the USA does not want? If a country is to be excluded from NATO, it should be the United States, which implements policies against an ally that it has promised to protect when necessary. As it is known, a country with an ally like the USA or UK does not need another enemy. Look how many people died and are dying in Ukraine. Of course, this is the case for reasonable and logical people.
@@TheNoronist
If Turkey in general shares NATO's vision, Erdogan definitely doesn't.
Turkey sees what it can get
They are opportunistic but they are on our side
They’re a frenemy
Better than Russia or China
Also turkey is the only western country that legitimately scared China and Russia
How is it that the Islamic state was created in an area inhabited by the majority of Kurds?
when the US released the former baathist government officials they went into an alliance with radical sunni tribal leaders in western iraq, they then started conquering land the closest of which was lands inhabited by kurds
Turkey is secular bur ok
Both turks and kurds are Muslims
Ethnic cleansing and forced migration of arabs
We have been living here for 5 thousand years. Don't believe what you see on TV.
usa is legally in siria ? 23 bases ?