Always had a suspicion Formosa was harder than CYCLOLCYC simply because there is a world record for CYCLOLCYC but there was no world record at all for Formosa
fun facts: a lot of the level works on 2000 fps, even the framegate the final clicks works on 15668 fps (i remember that) one of the last ufo jumps needing a ssb movement works in 16k/17k fps a lot of parts works in 1440 fps, most of them are impossible for 240 :b
one of the people that helped in deciding the movement of Formosa above CYCLOLCYC here. Although not having botted the entirety of either level, I have botted a little more than half of each from 0 and segments of difficult parts as well. While Formosa is much easier than cyc in terms of botting (in my opinion), cyc consists of less difficult gameplay overall with buffs compared to formosa, and the botting process was only annoying due to x-pos alignment issues (also to note, botting difficulty doesn't always translate to playing difficulty especially this high up the list. A good testament to this fact is the existence of the RILL if I remember the list requirements correctly). Formosa has way harder raw gameplay especially with swift clicks and double clicks at such an absurd FPS number, and people usually, and have underestimated the real difficulty in these inputs specifically in this level (however, I wouldn't be surprised if levels such as Miss Massacre by crimson were underestimated and are moved up the list in the future as well).
mm mentioned!!! ive been trying to pass the alignments for weeks and although botting difficulty isnt the same as level difficulty i still think its very underrated on the list, probably by around 10 spots or so because of the 80 swifts at the beginning
Honestly, this makes a lot of sense; I remember back in the day seeing the transition into the drop literally be the hardest part of singularity (or at least that’s what it looked like) and just thinking “huh… interesting that this is so much harder”
2:45 Can someone explain to me why Tax Evasion was removed from the list? I thought it was because 2.2 made it physically impossible, but I'm probably wrong.
I had an idea to try to make a top 1 ILL as a 1 player level by buffing every click and release to the limit, what Cyclolcyc really lacks. Guess Eightos' efforts were enough to make it happen
The fact that this beast requires 10x the fps needed for completion compare to CYCLOLCYC makes sense for it's movement from #7 to #5, #2 and finally dethrone CYCLOLCYC itself
It's a complete cringe that the level has risen from just above Arcturus to the top 1, harder Cyclolcyc. Let each new level in the sheet be checked for frame perfects immediately.
If John Cole train didn’t play every note exactly how he did on the song giant steps this level wouldn’t have been created and if you want me to explain comment below this
My face when there is misinformation spread at the 0:36 seconds mark in the video! 😱 (its not the hardest jump because thats not the framegate, the one frame clicks at the end are the framegate)
CYCLOLCYC contains insane gimmicks that makes it actually extremely hard, yet it's FPS and CPS requirement it's pretty average. Meanwhile Formosa requires 10× the minimum FPS requirement. No need for a competition here
I was always though formosa was really underated and a few weeks ago I saw your tax evasion video and though it would be cool if you did one about formosa and you did, thanks!
Welp it had to happen at some point, still in my opinion and will likely never change. Cyclolcyc is my favorite level, probably in all gd, due to amazing atmosphere and music and design. Maybe theyll buff it, probably not tho
Wow. Ive never seen the bones of an impossible level of this difficulty. Ive always wanted to make a top 1 impossible level just for fun, but i never knew how to make it hard. I never knew the mechanics and stuff. This video really explains it well. Also, im not used to cyc not being top 1 anymore lol.
Yeah but we can't forget the big bad 20000 fps frame perfect Last time I checked tidal wave only had one 120 fps frame perfect, and most of these are likely over smth like 360 fps
when you talk about frame perfects it seems to be in a range of like 240 fps frame perfects to 20000 fps frame perfects, when one is added to the counter what fps is it for? 60?
Or if you meant how you jump on dash orbs with swift clicks: if you click a multi-activate orb twice on the same frame it does not activate the orb twice but instead lets you do the input you would usually do. For dash orbs you would be forced to release before being able to do the second input though because the dash would counteract the input otherwise
@@samuel27294 Dang, wonder why. I think I heard Skub mightve gotten into some controversy but idk if that's true. if it is, that might explain why Tax Evasion got removed.
Swift clicks arent even that hard to recreate ingame, if you use a device like a drawing tablet. I've been able to make nearly impossible levels and verify them myself using a drawing tablet that inputs at the smallest possible time interval, which isnt even a macro or anything, it just can't hold unless you are physically dragging the nub
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
how to post a comment before the video was uploaded ?
@@Cold-s6pDoki probably sent it to Eightos early as an unlisted video to make sure everything was correct
>:(
@@Cold-s6pthe video was private before we released it
Did you expected this to happen?
Always had a suspicion Formosa was harder than CYCLOLCYC simply because there is a world record for CYCLOLCYC but there was no world record at all for Formosa
@@GDOddMod expert estimator
Theres a world record for formosa now by emp
smartest
this your fav top 10?
ik it is
“avernus has the worst hitboxes”
formosa:
Avernus: you can’t beat me
Any other level: I know but he can
Formosa:
Domba be like:😂
Fun fact: this level was placed at #7 on the ILL, but it started slowly but surely moving up the ranks until it surprisingly dethroned CYCLOLCYC.
Where is the list?
@@Dragonlegend-im5sojust look it up on google...
@@Dragonlegend-im5soi remember seeing something about it getting deleted a while back but i don’t know if it’s true
@ i relly relly need to know
@@Dragonlegend-im5so just checked, there’s a link to the ILL on the gd wiki
"oh yeah btw guys you actually witnessed the hardest click in history and didnt know it"
fun facts:
a lot of the level works on 2000 fps, even the framegate
the final clicks works on 15668 fps (i remember that)
one of the last ufo jumps needing a ssb movement works in 16k/17k fps
a lot of parts works in 1440 fps, most of them are impossible for 240 :b
Oh well maybe the framegate is possible on a lower fps but the whole level is only possible on 20k fps so practically the video is still accurate
@Locked101 yerp
the framegate is no longer skippable so doesnt work on 2000
and the number is 15336 not 15668
@@icespirit what
the last frame gate works on 15331 not 15668, and most of the level works on 600fps, 1000fps, and 2000fps, going to 61%, 66%, and 76% respectively
one of the people that helped in deciding the movement of Formosa above CYCLOLCYC here. Although not having botted the entirety of either level, I have botted a little more than half of each from 0 and segments of difficult parts as well. While Formosa is much easier than cyc in terms of botting (in my opinion), cyc consists of less difficult gameplay overall with buffs compared to formosa, and the botting process was only annoying due to x-pos alignment issues (also to note, botting difficulty doesn't always translate to playing difficulty especially this high up the list. A good testament to this fact is the existence of the RILL if I remember the list requirements correctly). Formosa has way harder raw gameplay especially with swift clicks and double clicks at such an absurd FPS number, and people usually, and have underestimated the real difficulty in these inputs specifically in this level (however, I wouldn't be surprised if levels such as Miss Massacre by crimson were underestimated and are moved up the list in the future as well).
mm mentioned!!! ive been trying to pass the alignments for weeks and although botting difficulty isnt the same as level difficulty i still think its very underrated on the list, probably by around 10 spots or so because of the 80 swifts at the beginning
@@_Po1s0n-Ivy we did move it from 37 to 24 i just realized lol i should be less blind as a list helper
update, i botted it i think its harder than wistfully idk im tired hope this gets it moved up a little
Formosa never looked that hard to me, even knowing that there were swift clicks. I never knew it was actually this hard though, nice video!
I always had a suspicion that Formosa underrated but I didn't think much of it and dismissed it
Formosa’s initial placement would be out of top 10 ILL. But people started to realize it’s difficulty it seems
0:37
the world record in question:
Just from the first 40 seconds of this video alone, this has already convinced me that this is the hardest ILL level LOL
Achlys jumpscare
Honestly, this makes a lot of sense; I remember back in the day seeing the transition into the drop literally be the hardest part of singularity (or at least that’s what it looked like) and just thinking “huh… interesting that this is so much harder”
2:45 Can someone explain to me why Tax Evasion was removed from the list? I thought it was because 2.2 made it physically impossible, but I'm probably wrong.
@@velveee because skub is a pedophile :/
i'm pretty sure it was because of the allegations against skub
@@VenomousCosmo this comment just did not appear on mobile thanks youtube
@@VenomousCosmo It also did not appear for me, but thanks for answering, perfectly understandable.
I think that in some parts reached more than 15 cps and that’s why it got removed
even though this is an impossible level, its always been one of my favorites in the game, and I hope that it'll get more attention after this
Nothing changed in the last 2 years 😭 I remember this same convo in 2022 lol
this is such a neat impossible level tbh
1:11 Someone's definitely goona try this part in particular
This is another reason i love this level, the deciration, the gameplay, the sing choice, it all adds up till it creates a masterpiece
In Argentina, Formosa is also the hardest province to live in
I had an idea to try to make a top 1 ILL as a 1 player level by buffing every click and release to the limit, what Cyclolcyc really lacks. Guess Eightos' efforts were enough to make it happen
this has always been my favorite impossible level
This level uses a Thundercat song which instantly makes it the best level in the entire game
0:40 WHAT
its honestly beautiful to see an ILL level that doesnt consist of uninteresting wave gp and have more frame perfects than extreme demons in the game
@@Kruxxdd huh?
😭❓❓
What my friends see when I am playing literally any level
The fact that this beast requires 10x the fps needed for completion compare to CYCLOLCYC makes sense for it's movement from #7 to #5, #2 and finally dethrone CYCLOLCYC itself
*21 days later:* ZOINK VERIFIED FORMOSA!
This has always been my favourite ILL level, im glad its now top 1 :D
It's a complete cringe that the level has risen from just above Arcturus to the top 1, harder Cyclolcyc. Let each new level in the sheet be checked for frame perfects immediately.
thats ill placements for you
How is it cringe
how is it cringe bruh
qwat
Finally, a good looking top 1 impossible level
5/10 at best
modern impossible level lmfao
I love how the 2 most seemingly easy parts were the hardest
Comically large dash orb may have to do with it
How hard this level would be if there weren't any shenanigans with invisible spikes and orbs and shit?
not very
whats craziest about this level is that it is in single player mode
Zoink verifying this in 1 week
it would be rly interesting to see how hard the lvl would be without any invisible gameplay or swift clicks ngl
never thought i would hear thundercat in a geometry dash level
If John Cole train didn’t play every note exactly how he did on the song giant steps this level wouldn’t have been created and if you want me to explain comment below this
please give me your wisdom, kind sir.
Zoink: and that's what I call extreme demon to me
peak song choice
the gameplay actually seems quite good for an impossible level
someone just needs to make something like this but 2 player and we will indeed have a new top 1
The biggest problem is that people would have to make it good enough to pass quality control
i quit ill for months and this happens lol
Some of the chillest music and deco for the hardest level 💯 🔥
Wait what? I swear I was trying to bot this level on 240 fps and passed the "hardest jump in history" on 240 fps
yeah it can be passed on lower but doesnt matter since you need 20k for the rest
Frame alignment. You’re not surviving swift clicks with that though
we need the best CPU to do the 20k fps frame perfect
WHICH MEANS P2W LEVEL LOL
I’ve always enjoyed this level, just because of the song
this video is a misinformation, domba is harder!
You are a liar!!!!!
Thundercat mentioned wtf is a bad song
Excellent Video Edition
1:11 "i wouldn't be surprised if it can be completed in 240fps without noclip"
my brother in christ look at it
he means that part could maybe be botted in 240fps
Good analysis, but I can't read most of the text because it disappears too fast
@@CatkinsonGD i noticed this but it was too late
@@VenomousCosmo well, i slowed down to 0.5x,the music is still good,and it look like a normal video
My face when there is misinformation spread at the 0:36 seconds mark in the video!
😱
(its not the hardest jump because thats not the framegate, the one frame clicks at the end are the framegate)
CYCLOLCYC contains insane gimmicks that makes it actually extremely hard, yet it's FPS and CPS requirement it's pretty average.
Meanwhile Formosa requires 10× the minimum FPS requirement.
No need for a competition here
That bass line is KILLER
zoink, its time to verify!
I was always though formosa was really underated and a few weeks ago I saw your tax evasion video and though it would be cool if you did one about formosa and you did, thanks!
Nice! Love formosa, thundercat is so good
For the first time, the layout looks way harder than the finished level
honestly no this is maybe a medium demon at best tbh
Even the easiest part, i can't even handle it💀
now i wanna see someone count how many orbs it have 😂😂😂
0:39 oopsies i passed it on 3k fps in 2.2 without noclip
the level doesn't work on 2.2 so doesn't matter
@@Locked101 what do you mean by that though?
Bro is explaining why an impossible level is HARD🗿
when the impossible levels are more impossible than other impossible levels
welp that was not on my bingo list
Rip tax evasion for the 15cps rule.
Tax evasion: *cries*
no
was removed due skubb request
“One of the easiest parts of the level” accompanied by some of the most impossible gameplay ever is hilarious
Welp it had to happen at some point, still in my opinion and will likely never change. Cyclolcyc is my favorite level, probably in all gd, due to amazing atmosphere and music and design. Maybe theyll buff it, probably not tho
i noticed every time you showed the layout of the level, like at 1:02 & 1:14, you can see an invisible orb that follows the player. what is it?
Wow. Ive never seen the bones of an impossible level of this difficulty. Ive always wanted to make a top 1 impossible level just for fun, but i never knew how to make it hard. I never knew the mechanics and stuff. This video really explains it well.
Also, im not used to cyc not being top 1 anymore lol.
0:39 this jump was still impossible for me even on 20,000 fps
had a suspicion the level was harder than it seemed, probably biased since this is one of my favourite levels in the game
ALSO LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I remember first time botting this level in 2022, this took me one week to bot, bcs my macro always broke.
I always liked this level so that's cool
2:45. Wait. I thought True Schafs is finished 0_.
@@dokitachiOk. Anyway I love it, especially because of the MGR song 💥💥💥
I thought tax evasion was part of the ill too
And tax evasion isn't coming back:p
@@FINALBOSS101wrong info
will be back but not now..
i wonder if this level would be humanly possible if the invisible buffs were removed
Almost defininitely not
131 20k fps frame perfects is crazy
taiwan mentioned 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Song’s a banger
Less frames perfects than tidal wave, zoink can beat this
(this is ragebait don’t harass me lol)
Good video!
You can do it on the rest of the ILL, for example with Lunar Empress next
lunar empress would be good ngl
"LeTim no clear"
i love this level
Knowing that Tidal Wave has more frame perfects than this is crazy💀
That doesnt mean anything
It's 20000 fps frame perfect .... And tidal wave only have 200 60 fps frame perfect and 1 120 fps frame perfect
Any "ding" you hear is arguably 333 times harder than any of tidal wave's frame perfect inputs, which makes this incommensurably harder
Yeah but we can't forget the big bad 20000 fps frame perfect
Last time I checked tidal wave only had one 120 fps frame perfect, and most of these are likely over smth like 360 fps
First 2& harder then ttv x20 I’m afraid
New peak video!
0:39 is not true, this jump is also possible on 3k
when you talk about frame perfects it seems to be in a range of like 240 fps frame perfects to 20000 fps frame perfects, when one is added to the counter what fps is it for? 60?
20000
how would swift clicking defeat the dash orb i dont get it
If you swift a dash orb it doesnt cancel your momentum so you would carry the blue pad momentum into the spike
Or if you meant how you jump on dash orbs with swift clicks: if you click a multi-activate orb twice on the same frame it does not activate the orb twice but instead lets you do the input you would usually do. For dash orbs you would be forced to release before being able to do the second input though because the dash would counteract the input otherwise
@@erzor9689 okay thats what i thought they meant, guess theyre just misusing the term swift click
i know the guy with WR on this lol
I miss Tax evasion :(
So basically top levels nowadays are so tight that its paywalled by your computer’s fps!? Lol/j
impossible levels :/
no?
@@Xkorpion it was a joke, sorry if the comment wasn’t clear enough
I thought Tax Evasion was on the ILL and its buffed version was considered harder than CYCLOCYC. Was it removed?
yeah
Why???@@samuel27294
Because the creator of it is a pedo@@ImmenseJ-tard8253
@@samuel27294 Dang, wonder why. I think I heard Skub mightve gotten into some controversy but idk if that's true. if it is, that might explain why Tax Evasion got removed.
i like cyclolcyc way more, ideas were way better executed
very interesting video tho, i'll try to bot it someday
NO FKIN WAY THEY NAMED THE LEVEL AFTER AN ARGENTINE PROVINCE🗣🔥🧉‼️🙏
For the Frame Perfect Counter, what FPS does the fp count on?
@@abeginnergdplayer 20000
Woah! Ok!
Swift clicks arent even that hard to recreate ingame, if you use a device like a drawing tablet. I've been able to make nearly impossible levels and verify them myself using a drawing tablet that inputs at the smallest possible time interval, which isnt even a macro or anything, it just can't hold unless you are physically dragging the nub
still less frame perfects than slaughterhouse
fricking 9 year old roblox iPad kids
seriously, this level has 131 20k fps frame perfects and slaughthouse has 240/60
stfu
@ bro take a joke dont take everything so seriously i was messing about??
eightos if you can hear me you should make a level to didn’t cha know by erykah badu☺️
i actually really like this video ngl
you don't see videos actually EXPLAINING why a level on the ILL is placed at a certain spot
So how do you do the ufo black orb click like in RAIN