Conquering The Big Bear Run Hard Route | KLX300 vs CRF300L Dual Sport Shootout
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ต.ค. 2024
- Trevor Hunter and Tyler Belknap tackle the 30th annual Big Bear Trail Riders Big Bear Run Hard Route on a 2024 CRF300L and a KLX300 in near stock trim, comparing the bikes with just Dunlop knobby tires, mousses, and a Ricochet Off-Road Skid Plate equipped on each.
Read more about this experience here: dirtbiketest.c...
Looking to Learn How to Ride Off-Road? Click the Link Below To Learn How!
jimmylewisoffr...
Support DBT:
Shop Rocky Mountain ATV/MC - www.rockymount...
Shop Amazon - www.amazon.com...
Follow us for more bike bike and motorcycle related product testing!
Instagram: / dirtbiketest
Facebook: / dirtbiketest
Too funny 😂 watching those guys pass you on the road and then you giving them the “beep beep” was hilarious
It ain’t always about the bike :-) $20,000 KTM’s getting worked by $6000 bike :-) that’s a kick in the dick lol great video guys
😂 you guys just reinforced the truth that it’s the rider not the machine.
...and more fun to ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow.
Proud of you guys, you did well and probably pissed a lot of riders off with a tap on the horn as you blew by them. My KLX 300 has see a lot of terrain like that and never let me down.
I have an 06 KTM 450 exc, with a plate.
Did Big Bear several times.
Also, many other DS rides...all hard ways.
My bike is very well maintained.
Never rebuilt, never had the head off.
22k miles of often difficult terrain.
I don't abuse it.
Always looking to preserve my bike, but get the job done.
Reliable as a stone axe.
Like someone said..."90% rider, 10% bike."
I am by no means, a great rider.
68 years old.
But, I like to think I'm a wise rider.
Take good care of your bike, and it will take care of you.
Many don't take the care, and just replace.
Silly!!!
Awesome thought
I'm a shit rider on a CRF300l with a few mods. I absolutely love "my" bike it kicks ass. It's great to see someone with skill ride this bike and give it props for what it is.
Why is "my" in parentheses? I swear boomers have such bizarre typing habits.
Why is "my" in quotes? I swear old timers have such bizarre typing habits.
@@DB-sd3cwwhy did you comment the same thing twice but slightly different ? 🤣🤣
@@DB-sd3cw And millenials have editing fixations. The bike is probably financed.
I'm a newbie shit rider on a 2023 crf 300l , no mods. Love the bike, considering I have been on a bike for four weeks, traded in my 2024 150l against the 300l. No deserts, fire roads, cool places to go. Stuck in the suburbs, plus I'm 63 years old. But fuck it I'm gonna try!
Thanks for showing how capable these bikes are. I know my KLX has never let me down I just wish I was a better rider but I will have to work on that. No regrets about buying it I don’t need an expensive bike to have fun.
Right on!
Jimmy Lewis is Trevor and Tyler’s Mr. Miyagi.
Good job guys, I’ve always had the thought process of 80% Rider 20% Bike. You guys definitely proved that in this video. Next time do it on the XT 250, that bike is so capable
That's the plan!
Proving what can be done...absolutely awesome. Well done gents.
Holy smoke. You just send it with this stock bikes. Amazing compared to the other dirt bikes. You just prove that the rider competence is more important than the bike. Something to really consider for all those weekend rider that think he needs to buy a expensive bike and add a lot of bling!
Wow, thanks!
I owned a CRF250L and went trail riding with guys on 450's a few times. In the open desert they were laughing at me, but when the riding got tighter and more technical, the linear power (or lack of) and lower seat height really paid off. Passing guys on a basic bike that costs $5000 is a lot of fun. Next year Honda Trail 125???
125cc 2 stroke, slightly modded ( heavier flywheel weight, revalved suspension, smaller countershaft sprocket) will go just about anywhere ( desert dunes excluded). my Rm85 will get through most of mid-high intensity trails (not hard enduro !) where i live . so yeah, its mostly about rider, not bike :) .
So much fun! Ride what you want and where! Stoked to see more of these vids. Keep it up! ✊🏽
Dude on the KLX is a Beast in the Rocks around like 12:50
Money doesn't always buy speed. People always find that out on a Sportbike track. Awesome video.
matching TW200's for next time
You better off spending cash on riding more than adding do-dads. No harm in modding your bike, no harm in buying the best the the Euro's have to offer, but if you wanna be quick.....ride more.
Very good. You guys did prove your point. Its more the rider than the bikes, of course both bikes are good bikes too.
Sh*t! Some of that terrain I wouldn't want to walk on let along try & ride on it!
90% rider, 10% bike. People don't wanna hear that and they don't wanna build skills on the bike, they would rather good goodies for the bike and hope it makes up for the 25% skills 😂
I couldn't disagree more. I own the CRF 300L and it literally limited my skills DRASTICALLY out the gate. The second I swapped the suspension out, my confidence, the predictability and ABOVE ALL capability of the bike doubled. That's a lot more than 10% the bike. It literally couldn't do basic stuff in stock form.
@@phantomshtter I agree, I had a 250L and the suspension on that thing never gave me any confidence, once I spend some good money on suspension it was a different story, the second problem was the weight, 140kg on tight trails will get you tired especially when you make a mistake and you need to lift up that thing. It's not a bad bike but as a first dualsport it was a bit of a handful, unfortunately at that time the yamaha XT250 was never available were I live because I would preferred that one. Yes skills are very important, more than the bike but as most average Joe's you have to start from somewhere.
Sounds like that crap u hear from brake magazine.. take a multistrada 1250 up the hard route. Goooood luck bro. Sure pros and experts could do it, but the bike makes way more than a 10% difference.
So funny. Tell me you have 10% skills without telling me you have 10% skills.🤣 It's the bike, it the sun in my eyes, it's the tires, I didn't have my favorite grips. Spend money on gas and ride and ride and ride and build skills.
@@Randy_Cox i can tackle trails and sections on a klx300 i wouldnt dare do on a multistrada. Its true for most people btw. Some elite guys can ride anything anywhere, but those guys also dont give a crap about cliches or who said what, they know it doesnt apply to them.
It's kind of like racing on tracks with liter bikes and getting passed by 400cc's. It's skill based. Even in the firearm community which I'm more in tune with. Some kid with a $500 PSA build can and will be better than a guy with a $3000 DD build. It's all about training.
Cracker vid! Rich Larsen did a review of essentially trial riding a KLX230, he absolutely crushed it on that little whip. I’m one of the idiots with a 450 😂😂 Mine is a ‘13 Husaberg I’ve had for about a year, it would have fit right in ten years ago!
Real cool.
Good work!
Love my 300L
I setup my DRz400 for hard use, because its the bike I currently have and I like the damn thing.. Good enduro tires, HD tubes, rim locks, protection parts, springs for my weight, lower gearing, IMS pegs and some weight reduction. The bike will do anything my buds do on their enduros and if I don't have to pick it up much, its somehow less taxing to ride. I will probably get another KTM 2stroke someday because of the lighter weight, but I'm in no hurry.
Thanks for doing this! Every one is always hating on my 300r. You both are awesome! If I ever catch ya beers on me.
Just goes to show it's all about the rider. Time and time again you prove how capable and well rounded rider you are Trevor. And Kudos to you as well Tyler. And yes nothing wrong at all with those bikes. I'm proud of both of you young gentleman!!
I dont understand this video. There was hardly any comparison between the two bikes.
I was a one of the 2nd half HW sweep rider and saw you two come through check point 3. You were rockin'. Glad we didn't see you all afternoon. One year a group of Trail 70 riders did it.
You guys are incredible!
Man, that was some gnarly stuff you guys plowed through, made it look easy, well done!
Awesome content! Respect !
Glad you liked it!
I love both of those bikes but I’d have to go with the Kawasaki purely for the better suspension
Old man logic......it ain't the arrow.....it's the Indian. From Klx 300sm trail outfitted owner! Goodonya
Why is it still claimed a 300cc are a beginner bike? It is not, it is a perfect balance of size, weight and power.
Because most "experienced" riders laugh at bikes like these and dont realize how capable they truly are which led us to this video idea
Would you recommend this bike for a heavier rider 210? I think this is awesome!
Next year Honda Grom and Kawi Z125!! 😂
next time do it on a drz! :) great video
I’ve had extensive time on both. The KLX is way better
Always was, the Wr250r was the best, the Kawa a solid second and the Honda the worst, now that the Yamaha is out the KLX300 is basically almost the same at it was the 250 , still with better suspension, more narrow and feels more natural when standing on the pegs, and maybe still lighter than the Honda.
I've had all three, the wr250r, the klx and the CRF. The wr was the most capable but the CRF has the best engine, clutch and transmission.
Ive had the KLX and WR, my buddy has the Honda.....maybe its the rider, but he struggles, the Kawi to me is a clear winner.
Dude you could definitely do this race on your KLX. You made that stuff at Brown look effortless.
Got to get a TW200 out here...lol
Great bike 👍
I think you should use the same bikes for next years race but do suspension work and exhaust. See how much better you’ll do.
I heard you had a Airmousse foam tire insert in that Honda.
... CRF 300 Rally owner here. You both did GREAT!!!
.
Braught to you by Yamaha!
klx300 big bear trail 2025, sign me up LFG!!!!
Thanks for a great video fellas. 👍
Damn, you guys can ride!
I'd have kept my KLX300 if I could get a larger capacity fuel tank. Acerbis, IMS, I'm not the only one saying this.
Last year I got a deal on a 23' Husky FE 501 S and I've been kitting it out for a lightweight ADV bike, I'll never ride like you guys, I'm in my late 50's. So I've been thinking about going back to the 300cc level but I'd have to go with the CRF 300L or Rally to get that fuel range in the after market, even though I'd love to have another Kawasaki in my lineup.
I might be talking myself into keeping the 501 here. 😉
How did you guys do on fuel...? I have the KLX300 and riding at my old guy, short shifting pace I get about 75 miles before the fuel light comes on...and you guys were ringing the necks out of these bikes. Nice job.
We got about the same. We went a full 90 miles and were on fumes rolling into the finish
I'm almost 60 and love to show up for rides on what is thought to be the wrong bike (old or to small or whatever) just to prove the point that most bikes are good enough. I brought a DRZ400 to a hard enduro ride and did great on it. I used to roll up to hard rides on a 86 husky WR400 and people thought I was crazy, they did not realize how good that bike was and is. FUN!!!
People are finally figuring out....that if u know how to ride offroad these small dual sports are WAY more fun cuz of the Go Anywhere factor and they are more comfortable to ride all day than a high strung, trail specific set up enduro. No 2 Stroke Drama, no flame outs, No Maintenance and No Financing. Iv had a lot of KLX they are all a blast
Delusion breaking productions.
Were so into buying the latest and greatest, and the majority of us then make excuses not to ride.
People would rather chase the idea, thaj the reality. Good stuff.
I was a doubter , I had a Honda 300 and hated it, but you proved it is capable. What normal bike would be your choice for that ride?
What did you hate about it ?
We think a 300 two-stroke would be a lot of fun on this ride
Amen, let's get an "all else" class. Hell, guys are running Harleys with knobbies in a National H&H, so a wackier-the-better class for this? I'm all in.
Martinez Angela Thomas Sandra Lewis Joseph
Both these bikes come with crap suspension, the Kawi just comes with adjustable crap suspension... for $500 more. Putting $700 into Ktech aftermarket suspension on the CRF makes it the superior machine in every way. Power, handling, gearbox, clutch, features, styling, aftermarket, resale...
oh look, and insecure Honda rider.....
Prior to 2024 I'd agree the honda looked better but the 2024 update on the KLX really blows the honda out of the water in terms of looks.
Maybe a Honda XR150L or a CRF 450RL next year. I'm rooting for the 150.
What are your thoughts ?
Why not crf 300?
Agree with previous post about rider, but the machine has to work until the finish. Great riding and great bikes. Congratulations!
I love how the price of the other duel sports keeps increasing with Trevor. Up to $30k US by the end :)
Impressive, I just bought a crf300l. It's amazing what an experienced rider can do with it 👌
TW200s or Trail 125s next year!
Hall Maria Robinson Christopher Jackson Mary
Johnson John Rodriguez Anthony Gonzalez Mark
You gotta be kidding. Wow. That was some craggy road they were on.
Guys, great race, your analysis is very detailed, honest, and informative. Thank you for putting the dilemma of ‘expensive vs stock’ to rest !
Jones Ruth Thompson Charles Miller Paul
Jones Patricia Anderson Matthew Harris Edward
Nice to see what the new Honda can do. I used to ride a '78 Honda XL250s on similar terrain.
rider mod always the best mod. looks like yall had a blast.
What a fantastic video, thanks guys.
Classic underdog story. Loved it!!
I just love this kind of content, super fun and impressive results you made 🎉
This is the exact video I was looking for.
My guy
Id love to know how much he's guys weigh on them.Stalks suspensions. Anybody?
We weighed 165 & 170 lbs, and yes the suspension was completely stock on both bikes
XT250 next yr!
Awesome, more of this!
Jackson Jose Jones Jason Anderson Larry
Beep Beep
I love the CRF skid plate....product name?
Ricochet
Imagine doing this race on you 501 $20,000 bike getting your ass kicked by the terrain then you see a little 300 kawi putting on by you in the big rocks like it’s a an average Sunday ride 😂😂😂😂 I don’t understand why people hate on what bike you’re riding that’s always baffled me at least these guys tried it on done bikes you wouldn’t see
Love my 300l. I can't wait to get a new rear shock, it's just a bit to soft for me. I have a 450rl too if I had to pick just one to keep it would be the 300l. Nice riding guy's.
You guys are animals!!!
I'd like to see a Tenere 700 next time
That is one of our ideas for 2025...
@@DirtBikeTest Whoo Hoo!! And better yet on Jimmy's personal bike!!
check for dacre the longest day. whole teams of big adv bikes tapping out unable to finish- or checking in for lunch at 8pm at night.
@@DirtBikeTest next year Wr 250r and Dr.Z 400?
waay beyond my skill level!
but was so much fun to watch!
when I was younger I rode several trails that were a risk [ I was told] to me it was fun.
but I enjoyed seeing others with skill and I thought "wow"
I get that a lot on my drz400E. One guy with a WR450 on a ride we went on said I was going to slow everyone down, I just didn't say anything as I know what the bike is capable of. We ended up waiting at the end of the trails for him 😂 he was salty as after that. All that power is fun on the open trails, but in the technical stuff, it can get in the way if you don't know how to use it. Sure, the drz400E isn't hi-tech or a fast bike. The WR450 is the far superior bike in every aspect. But knowing what the bike is capable of and its limits and being able to overcome its weaknesses and utilise it strengths will make you the faster rider at the end of the day. The point is that it definitely comes down to the rider.
Nice job! There's a possibility I might buy my first ADV, and am thinking the 300 Rally. You show that I will have plenty of time before I am better than the bike. Everybody says to upgrade the suspension-- and that will be a wonderful time getting to that good. Thanks for the encouragement!
Money does not buy skills... At the end of the day, it is always 75% rider and 25% bike. Well done.
Was that a door for the air filter for the 300l? Or was the seat off?
We had to pull the right side plate off to get to it and unbolt the airbox cover.
I got tired just watching this! I know the Honda is a tough bike. itchy boots proved that!
Fun video, thanks... I can't believe you drink Coors though 🤣
I’ve taken my KLX250 places it shouldn’t be but it got me in and back out. They are very capable. Maybe not the best for hard stuff but if it’s what you got.
If there’s a BBTR Tequila plaque involved, you fill it and Jimmy will come to the Big Bear Field of Dreams ride
I LOVE how you guys were passing all of those “BIG BIKES”!
Cheers! 27:05 i could only suggest a bit wider skidplate for the oil filter cover...
I'm sure the aftermarket is very happy that people are modding bikes , plus, nice equipment is always satisfying to operate, even if you know you're not fully exploiting it.
Gay bear
Come to KY, Renfro valley next year. Check the adv trails.
As an owner of a KLX 300 R great job show casing what these bikes can do for half the money nice job
Bottom line is a good rider can make almost any bike look good and you boys can ride. What impressed me the most about the two bikes was the guys riding them
Drink a beer you fools!
Also there is a reason Honda and Kawasaki sell a ton of these bikes
rider not bike - i keep telling people - it will always be this way
Not sure if ifs possible in California, but I took a klx300r model and made it street legal. I was able to get the weight down to a reasonable level and the bike is a blast.
What did you do to reduce weight? Lithium battery? What else?
Yeah I just got one this week. Would like to know more!
@@d1aman Lithium battery, Pro taper bars, Supertrapp exhaust (retrofitted), Pair valve delete, tip over sensor delete, tusk shifter, amazon foot brake (Oem is heavy)... I'm probably forgetting a few things. It weighs 266wet with 3/4 tank of fuel. That's with all the street legal stuff bolted on.
Lithium battery, Pro taper bars, Supertrapp exhaust (retrofitted), Pair valve delete, tip over sensor delete, tusk shifter, amazon foot brake (Oem is heavy)... I'm probably forgetting a few things. It weighs 266wet with 3/4 tank of fuel. That's with all the street legal stuff bolted on.