Sony 50mm 1.2 GM - 3 Reasons NOT to Buy One

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  • @kanaheiusagi
    @kanaheiusagi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    Seriously the 50GM is one of the best if not the best lens for Sony E, and definitely worth every penny for it. I'll take this instead of the 35GM anyday, and it makes a good trio along with 24GM and 135GM.

    • @organicrobot4710
      @organicrobot4710 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I fully agree...

    • @usynnstradler
      @usynnstradler ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Doesn't look like anything special to me... 85mm 1.4 just as good

    • @ainjuhl4509
      @ainjuhl4509 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      100% 35mm & 85mm are too mainstream. Yes they are classic which is why I use them for analog cameras. Although I prefer as different of a look as I can. My line up is 20mm 1.4, 12-24 2.8, 50 1.2, 105mm 1.4, 200 f/2, A7RV

    • @BealeIam
      @BealeIam ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed. This video doesn't do it justice. It's incredibly sharp at 1.2. It handles back lit subjects so well. Has a lovely lens flare too which I was really surprised about.

    • @_Eye_Of_Ry
      @_Eye_Of_Ry ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Exactly. I have the 35 GM & the distortion is bad. The 50mm 1.2 is the sweet spot along with my 135mm GM 😎

  • @robainscough
    @robainscough ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I recently purchased this lens for my Sony A7RV. I don't pretend to be a professional photography (as in do it for a living), but what I was looking for in this lens that your video didn't touch on at all ... that would be low light situations. IMHO, this lens puts and end to flash photography and need for studio lighting ... it works beautifully with natural lighting. I have a couple of other lens from Sony 70-200mm GM II 2.8 and 24-70mm GM II 2.8 ... both excellent but the Sony 50mm 1.2 GM really excels in low light (both video and stills). If you want that natural lighting, the 1.2 is best option. The 50mm 1.2 goes everywhere with me any time of day or night. Another topic you didn't cover is the Auto Focus, it's incredibly fast and accurate and superb with video.

    • @michelecintramika8482
      @michelecintramika8482 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      From your comment, it seems to me that you don't master a flash. It is completely possible to take natural photos with flash. You just need to know where to position the light. So, no matter what lens you have, depending on what you want, the flash is essential. Now, if you're a point-and-shoot type, you don't need a flash. I use it for hobbies and I always have a flash with me. because I like playing with light even during the day.

    • @robainscough
      @robainscough ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@michelecintramika8482 I guess we disagree, I prefer natural light from a scene, not artificial. I will use studio lighting inside when my goals are very specific like portraits or macro. I'd rather go high ISO and remove noise post.

    • @michelecintramika8482
      @michelecintramika8482 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@robainscough Knowing how to use the flash correctly, it looks natural. The flash helps to add contrast and volume to the image. But you need to know how to use it correctly.

    • @markIRL
      @markIRL 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Low light situations is exactly why i wanted such a fast lens. Very excited to use this lens and capture a variety of moments.

    • @damage968
      @damage968 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@michelecintramika8482
      Totally agree. Even though 1.2 will let a lot of light through that doesn't really matter if the light is hitting your subject from a bad angle. Flash, when well used can be a very good source of beautiful light. Also very useful to shoot pictures of objects or food

  • @jason_kovach
    @jason_kovach 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As much as I hate most gear review videos, yours work because you show real world applications. Love your videos, dude.

  • @MrQwertypoiuyty
    @MrQwertypoiuyty 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Just discovered your channel while I was doing my research for my camera gear upgrade. You're one of the best camera and lens reviewers. Kudos!

  • @johnnykilroy9394
    @johnnykilroy9394 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Any chance you could do a video comparing this lens to Canon’s 50mm 1.2?

  • @stkuj
    @stkuj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    No, it's too expensive. But, compared to the competitors its a deal! Also, I got mine as an open box for $1600 and have not regretted the decision at all. (BTW, I've never been a fan of 50mm, but this lens is the only lens I would use).

  • @orhansnake9824
    @orhansnake9824 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I would love to see an Review about the 55mm 1.8 Sony Zeiss! This Lens is so old but an Classic!🔥🔥🔥

    • @dajusta87
      @dajusta87 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      55mm Zeiss is a good lens but the focus motor is the downside

  • @pematamang9268
    @pematamang9268 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I already in my Bag after selling long used Sony 55mm f1.8 zeiss. There is no better 50mm f1.2 Gm in the entire planet.

  • @vincentsolon3216
    @vincentsolon3216 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can you compare this to Sony 85mm F1.4 GM II. Thanks!

  • @alitabattleangel_army
    @alitabattleangel_army ปีที่แล้ว

    Great! Question, where do you get models to shoot?

  • @torryc
    @torryc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Shots look beautiful, but the video of the shoot looks incredible! What was the video shot on?

  • @gerardneedham
    @gerardneedham 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How good is the A7IV focus breathing comp with Sony glass 🤤

  • @CHTFilms
    @CHTFilms 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What fast AF 50mm lens would you recommend me for a7sIII? I have Sigma DG DN 24mm 1.4 and also Sigma DG DN 24-70mm and they are fantastic. I am looking for that good fast AF 50mm but not as expensive as GM.

  • @jamesamoh7340
    @jamesamoh7340 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    That 1.2 baby! This lens makes me shoot more and enjoy photography now more than ever. I was always 35mm but the 50mm changed everything for me. Anyways, your intentional use of color always further draws the viewer into the feeling and mood of each photograph you take. Cheers mate! 👏

  • @TheDIYFilmmaker
    @TheDIYFilmmaker ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi mate, what lens did you use to film this video in your studio? It looks great. Cheers!

    • @MitchLally
      @MitchLally  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sony 20mm 1.8 :) Thanks!

  • @town3
    @town3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I own it and love, love, love it! along with the 135gm.....Beautiful!

  • @Blackriver69
    @Blackriver69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The title almost scared me off... looked a little too much like click bait but the analysis is pretty much spot on. IMO this may just be the most elite 35mm AF prime lens out there right now for any system.

  • @Cooper_1998
    @Cooper_1998 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What would be a cheap sony lens for people and blury backgrounds?

    • @MitchLally
      @MitchLally  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Definitely the 50mm 1.8

  • @clausschuessler
    @clausschuessler 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I still prefer the 50F1.2 to the 50F1.4 not only for the smoother Bokeh but for it's better quality (sharpness, lens flare, etc .).
    One question: Why do you have so much headroom in almost everyone of your vertical fotos? If you Go a little bit closer to your subject an tilt the camera more down, the composition gets better and the background even more blurred...

    • @g33k3301
      @g33k3301 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No offense but more blur does not mean better image. Also, I guess it‘s also because of the 4:5 ratio of instagram for example and you can also crop better later if it‘s necessary.

  • @JCtravels63
    @JCtravels63 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Some of my fav images you've taken! That 50mm 1.2 hits it

  • @SouBuuS
    @SouBuuS 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just picked up the 1.2 absolutely loving it! Your model friend there is drop dead gorgeous 😱

  • @thefittestyogi
    @thefittestyogi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The photos in this video are from this lens but what about the videos from this video what Lindsay using there?

  • @stalfros25
    @stalfros25 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you get rid of your canon gear?

  • @SwaraliYeolekar
    @SwaraliYeolekar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for involving me as always ❤️🤝

  • @bneil4059
    @bneil4059 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    picked up a near perfect used 1.2 , it is amazing

  • @irvinelee3432
    @irvinelee3432 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Mitch,
    have you used the Voigtlanter 40mm 1.2 se?
    its not a good spec lens, but its one of smallest 1.2 e-mount, and it will give you surprise sometime, for indoor portraiture, babies, children. don't use it in big sun

  • @bly-maninthedark4805
    @bly-maninthedark4805 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hi mitch what lens do you use for this video record?24mm 1.4?

  • @jasonbalenweddingfilm3749
    @jasonbalenweddingfilm3749 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    seeing the outputs i realized the 50mm 1.2 is more like bragging rights between photographers. clients will can never ever tell the diff between that 1.2 and 1.4 or even the 1.8 at 50mm. I havent met a client that zooms at pixel level.

  • @TXTundra-ex8bw
    @TXTundra-ex8bw 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review! I bought the Sigma 50mm 1.4 Art used in mint condition for $600 would it be worth it to upgrade to this lens?? I do love the 50mm prime. Thx so much. Subbed

  • @RohannvanRensburg
    @RohannvanRensburg 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The focus breathing is surprisingly not bad for this one actually, the focus breathing on some of Sony's wide aperture lenses (I think 35 and 85) is _comically_ bad. Like a 10-15% crop.

  • @KienVirak_
    @KienVirak_ ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this video. Thank you for sharing.

  • @lensofliane
    @lensofliane 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love this one Lally🐨 love the soft bokeh it creates! I tend to crop in when I edit so this would be perf ☺️✨

    • @MitchLally
      @MitchLally  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Lanibear

  • @montricewhite5593
    @montricewhite5593 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice photographer work. I like your post edits.

  • @user-pv6lj2no2d
    @user-pv6lj2no2d ปีที่แล้ว

    Besides falling in love w/ a lense well out of my price range 😂 I love how you’ve edited your video too. Can I which one of your preset and LUT would this be? 🤌🏾

    • @MitchLally
      @MitchLally  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I used ‘the OG’ from my lut pack!

    • @user-pv6lj2no2d
      @user-pv6lj2no2d ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MitchLally thank you for responding! I’ve JUST purchased both of your presets and LUTS! 🙏🏾

  • @AndreMonz
    @AndreMonz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This isn't for the begginers because of it's premium price but because begginers MUST start with a standard zoom to figure out the sort of focal lenght suits their needs the best. Then, it might be a good time to jump on primes.

    • @MitchLally
      @MitchLally  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I disagree, zooms I find do the opposite because they can be any focal length in the range it doesn’t force you to think in any one particular field of view. My first lens after the kit lens was a prime and I wish I got it first because it taught me so much about how and why field of view matters.

    • @piotrgraniszewski8544
      @piotrgraniszewski8544 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MitchLally: exactly. I recommend starting out with primes to learn how to visualize the perspective and get a grip on proper framing.
      I started out with 35mm APS-C. Only after I learned (eq.) 28, 50 and 105+, I got my hands on a standard 28-70 zoom lens. I love both ends of the range to death. Having prior experience with primes is crucial in order to know what you're doing with zooms.

    • @817KK
      @817KK ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree. Only because I started with zooms, and later found what lengths i like to shoot best at, and what scenarios to use which at. Now am moving onto primes.

  • @mysingingmonsterspmg
    @mysingingmonsterspmg ปีที่แล้ว

    It helps to have a beautiful model such as the one ur with... she makes it shine.. I just picked one up for 1400 dollars, what a steal... love it

  • @CARLO.OBRIEN
    @CARLO.OBRIEN 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shots are fire dude!

  • @UnconventionalReasoning
    @UnconventionalReasoning 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The first two points on why to *not* get the lens are so important! I use the Nikon Z system, and both points apply there too. In particular, "Invest in your strengths." Mitch does best with 35 or 24mm, I do best with 85 or 105mm, so it seems that neither of us needs to spend the money for the 50mm f/1.2, especially since my 50mm f/1.2 option is 350kg and Mitch's has strong focus breathing. I'll stick with adapted 50mm options and wait for a Nikon 85mm f/1.2S or even better, a 105mm f/1.2S!

  • @liam.chandler
    @liam.chandler 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Never really shot with the 50 either, but I’m highly considering coping a second hand zeiss 50 for the Sony. I know it’s older, but I haven’t heard one bad thing about it either!
    Loved the vid too man!

    • @aboynamedjamil
      @aboynamedjamil 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do it. That lens is magic. Slow, but magic!

  • @bluasterisk
    @bluasterisk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I really like the 50mm focal length and have started off a lot of my photos with the EF 50mm f/1.4. I tried using my dad's 50mm f/1.2 and it was mainly because I wanted to see how much better it was at low light. To be honest it didn't really help very much, in fact the wider aperture made it a lot harder to actually catch focus since that margin of error is thinner for focus. It's definitely a stills first kind of lens, if you want a lens for video you might want to look into cinema lenses. I think any f/1.2 prime lens out there is more so for photographers that are looking for that last 10% in quality for stills.

  • @robinng
    @robinng ปีที่แล้ว

    nice review as always. thanks for the good advice about the focal lenght choice...i will go for the cheaper version (1.8 or 1.4 version) to try out see if i really like this focal length.

  • @satishbamal8447
    @satishbamal8447 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is such an honest opinion, great stuff man

  • @damianbereza6901
    @damianbereza6901 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now I can't wait to see you opinion about new GM 1.4

  • @ALWH1314
    @ALWH1314 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1.2 GM renders color different from other Sony lenses, it has less boring accuracy and more personality. I would put it next to Nikon 105 or Leica Summilux 50. Yes, it’s pricier and heavier than the new f1,4, but it’s a definitely a wonderful lens that if you already have one, keep it. If you don’t, check out the new 1.4 first, it may be good enough for you.

  • @mdjmurray
    @mdjmurray 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does no one use the viewfinder anymore?

    • @MitchLally
      @MitchLally  ปีที่แล้ว

      Not since mirrorless cameras made using the screen easier and better than the OVF.

  • @corey.taylor.photography
    @corey.taylor.photography ปีที่แล้ว

    The 50 1.2 is an absolute monster

  • @wolfgangvogt3482
    @wolfgangvogt3482 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love my sigma ART 35mm 1.2. It's very similar.

  • @frankluo230
    @frankluo230 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Digidirect preorder is like click bait. They are genuine business but their business model of not telling customer stock level online or provide an eta for delivery but charge full amount when preorder is doubtable. I waited one month for Canon 16mm rf, some people waited 3 months for Sony lens rebate specials, so much so that when they were shipped, it has passed the deadline of Sony official rebate.

  • @frankfeng2701
    @frankfeng2701 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sigma 35 & 85 1.4 prime duo or Tamron 35-150 by itself seems a lot more versatile for the similar price.

    • @robinng
      @robinng ปีที่แล้ว

      i still prefer prime. and f1.4 if u do lot of indoor shoot.

  • @mab_visuals
    @mab_visuals 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1.2 vs 1.4 is rather very minor difference in aperture value and is barely visible in photos. I'd suggest getting 1.4 instead and investing the remaining cash elsewhere, hire a pro model, rent a cool studio or travel to a beautiful location instead.

  • @LeoRidesPH
    @LeoRidesPH 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hmmm... Seems like a difficult program to handle but manageable.

  • @igoryudnikov6198
    @igoryudnikov6198 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You didn’t mentioned af speed… but 50mm for shooting sports it probably too close

    • @MitchLally
      @MitchLally  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah AF speed is pretty good. I wouldn't shoot sports with this, no.

  • @imiszasz2442
    @imiszasz2442 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i own one, and i love it :D

  • @TrickShepherd
    @TrickShepherd 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The heft of this lens is a little annoying; feels like it is completely filled up with glass. Wish the F1.4 had come out earlier than the F1.2; the F1.4 is a better compromise.

    • @MitchLally
      @MitchLally  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Better late than never! *ahem - canon*

  • @-Hustle
    @-Hustle 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who's the model girl

  • @TKNORTH
    @TKNORTH 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gimme that 1.2 action

  • @Fontsman-14
    @Fontsman-14 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's a magical lens. Get it if you can afford it!

  • @felixarm
    @felixarm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wont be getting this thick boy or any other 50mm since I also lean more toward wider focal lengths, but that 50mm 1.2 bokeh do be pretty though!

  • @leemjfreeman9856
    @leemjfreeman9856 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Will stick with the biggest bargain in a similar range Zeiss 55. Love that lens and I honestly find bokeh etc massively overrated.

  • @adden2242
    @adden2242 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    2000 bucks? woww thats just too expensive.. a 50mm 1.8 aperture is already fine with me 😇 Nice photos..

  • @RWAquariumPages
    @RWAquariumPages 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love your photos and your comments. For now it's 50 1.8 for me for my casual photos, Noone will notice the difference between the 1.8 and 1.2 and the Wright difference is a huge deal for me, although I regret the rf 85 1.2, I should have stuck with the viltrox, oh well, first world problems

    • @cjm8160
      @cjm8160 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Why do you regret the RF 85mm f/1.2L ? I absolutely love this lens

  • @GBPEndless
    @GBPEndless 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I liked the video.Thanks to the author, it is written clearly, all

  • @RodrigoZadroFilms
    @RodrigoZadroFilms 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love my 50 1.2 GM

  • @robertbohnaker9898
    @robertbohnaker9898 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Mitch. My only knock on these. Sony hypersharp as crystal lens are their lack of character, almost clinical look…

  • @mmariattheresa
    @mmariattheresa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Team 35mm 👋🏻

    • @felixarm
      @felixarm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Team 35mm indeed!

    • @friesengraf
      @friesengraf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Team "usethelensthatyouneed'

    • @takoflame4948
      @takoflame4948 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      And 85mm

    • @boostedprince8163
      @boostedprince8163 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      35mm gm is my go to and I am thinking about 85 gm to compliment it

    • @ainjuhl4509
      @ainjuhl4509 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Too basic, 35mm only for my film cameras, 20mm for vlog and studio TH-cam filming, 24mm for street. & 12-24mm for on the go travel and fashion/architecture/landscape, unique shots

  • @StevenChatburn
    @StevenChatburn 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yoh im made about the pics you shot and the preset even more...stunning...bokeh

  • @peterebel7899
    @peterebel7899 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the RF 1.2 50mm, never thinking about Sony.

  • @saragrant556
    @saragrant556 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The photos convinced me more to buy it lmao

  • @YoMcNeely
    @YoMcNeely 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I mean it looks incredible!

  • @PowerGrindBoxing
    @PowerGrindBoxing ปีที่แล้ว

    Really irritates me that people buy a lens and the. Say don’t get it. Well why in the f$&@ did you get it. Seems like you like the lens and it’s a good buy.

    • @MitchLally
      @MitchLally  ปีที่แล้ว

      Why? because it doesn't validate your purchasing decisions? People are so self centred when it comes to this stuff - sometimes it takes months to know if you enjoy using something and a lot of the time you have no idea if it works for you and your style or not. People base so much of their opinions on what others say and rarely form their own opinions so when I hear somebody doesn't like something and they've actually given good reasons and you can tell they've really properly given it a chance I find it refreshing. There are so many trite narratives on youtube nowadays (eg. "fuji cameras inspire me to take photos") that I'm just sick of hearing the same crap parroted over and over. Sounds like you come to TH-cam to hear what you want to hear and not the truth.

    • @PowerGrindBoxing
      @PowerGrindBoxing ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MitchLally @MitchLally i don't see why you would draw that conclusion. I clicked on the video because im trying to understand why the person bought the lens then they don't give me a good reason and I'm left disappointed. I'm not a camera guy I'm a boxer so alot of times I am really looking for experts and honesty. I felt disappointed! So tell me why you got the freaking lens so I can see things from a buyer perspective bc that's why I clicked! TH-cam is becoming landfill of horrible perspectives. However I still need to get a camera and a lens. SMH

  • @TravelwithTing
    @TravelwithTing ปีที่แล้ว

    buy nice or buy twice

  • @vladepast4936
    @vladepast4936 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I tied it too but it makes images... well, too clinical... I prefer using Canon glass on Sony

  • @jarenroams4245
    @jarenroams4245 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Amazing lens for sure but I would never buy one. 35mm is my bread and butter.

  • @piyushpithava8540
    @piyushpithava8540 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    1.8 and 2.8 is still good
    No more different between 1.2 and 1.8 and price is 10X Higher but quality is 5 to 7 % Higher

  • @oliverlison
    @oliverlison 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A paying customer would not see the difference between an a 50/1.2 f1.4 and f2. It is not worth the price tag.
    Sharpness is also not an issue. Most lenses are sharp enough. I have sharp lenses that are too sharp for my taste and I need to soften the image.
    I downgraded from f1.4 to f2 lenses, except for the 85mm. The 85 is still an f1.4. The f2 lenses are nice and very satisfying. People will not notice. However, many photographers need to show off.

  • @thompsonjames918
    @thompsonjames918 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i always get upset when i see Sony drop 1.2 & 1.4 lens because of their prices. They sell you "new" lens with little no improvement and make a price drop of $100-$180 on the previous version 😒

  • @behystudio
    @behystudio 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Discord Squad

  • @tubgarrik
    @tubgarrik 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Спасибо

  • @nixland
    @nixland ปีที่แล้ว

    It's still cheaper than Canon

  • @strippedlist
    @strippedlist ปีที่แล้ว

    Nikon: 350 kg lens :))))))))))))))))))))))

  • @sijilo
    @sijilo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ☺️

  • @parmanduke
    @parmanduke 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    No 50mm lens should cost over $2000. Can get similar sharpness and bokeh with Sony's 85mm f1.8 and those can be had for $500 or less ALL DAY every day.

    • @exoops
      @exoops 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      check noctilux 50/1.2

  • @jazzb1263
    @jazzb1263 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    350kg lol 😅

  • @brettyg76
    @brettyg76 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You’re hot!.... so I’m following now lol

  • @usynnstradler
    @usynnstradler ปีที่แล้ว

    It's honestly nothing special

  • @williaminbody205
    @williaminbody205 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just no pop…no thanks.