What lens should you buy? 35mm vs 50mm vs 85mm
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Today we're going to be comparing 3 popular prime lenses for portrait photography to help you decide which lens is right for you. I'll be using the Zeiss 35mm f1.4, Zeiss 50mm f1.4 and Sony GM 85mm f1.4 on the full frame Sony A7III. Here are some other videos on this topic that you guys might also be interested in to see more photo examples:
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NEW series!! Comparing focal lengths at a portrait photoshoot, let's start with the 24mm vs 35mm! Watch it here: th-cam.com/video/D6ZCqFNiAEg/w-d-xo.html
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It is hard to find mo useless comparison because the model's head position is different all the time and in comparison photos also - this just defeats the purpose which was to show the difference by comparison isn't it?
I also started with the 50mm and felt it was a great all around lens to start shooting with. Then I tried the 35mm and I can’t stop using it 😍
This must be one of the best and most useful 35-50-85 videos out there, specifically because you matched frames. Thank you!
I'm a videographer but the way you explain things in your videos just hits different. Really appreciate you taking your time to do all of this
Best, most practical and easiest to understand comparison I’ve seen to date. Thanks Julia and keep up the good work!
All three are great. The 35mm is an all-terrain, it is used for portraits as well as to tell where that portrait is. It shows you the atmosphere, the space, the context around the model.
True. But when your clients start complains about lack of of background blur in your pictures. None can beat 85.
@@VishwasRavindran92 Yes but you forget the rule of 3 when it comes to doing photography for clients... wides, medium and tight, wides with a 35 to get an establishing shot and show the client and background of where you are taking the photo, mediums with a 50 to get those nice full body and half body photos and tights with the 85 to show the details in the faces and if you are also doing engagement shoots, to show the rings etc... If all your clients are complaining about not getting "bokeh" and compressed background with a shallow depth of field, you are taking on the wrong type of clients.
@@mikebray48 I just think it's a matter of personal preference. Not the wrong type of clients. As an amateur photographer I prefer the compression of the headshot and back up to get more of a full body.
@@mikebray48 the wrong type of clients? So if a client wants specific shots that go with their personal preference, you think they're the wrong type of clients?
I think you're the wrong type of photographers no offense.
Are these focal lenghts for apsc or full frame?
I`ve been watching your videos for 2 weeks now and learned a lot. Now let`s see it all in practice since I`m doing my very first portrait photoshoot tomorrow here in London. Really appreciate all your contents and knowledge you are sharing. The way you explain is super easy to understand and entertaining at the same time. Keep up the good work! Thanks again!
Thank you, I hope your portrait session went well!
A very well-made video with crisp and precise info about the most widely used focal lengths. Again, different focal lengths can be used to achieve the same results but with some compromises. Good job Julia! 😊👍🏼
Brilliant video!
Your comparison of the focal lengths through actual shooting examples and your personal insightful comments make it a superb learning resource.
Thank you, Julia!
Thanks so much, I'm glad you liked it!
These are always my favorite videos! I love lens comparisons.
Charlotte is doing such an awesome job here, and you too of course! Thank you for this.
I love, love, LOVE this video ✨ This was just a such a great break down of the go-to prime lenses 🥰
I use a 35mm for a lot of my street photography! But I LOVE my 85mm for portraits!
Portrait king 85
Depends on model, my wifey for example doesnt like 85, makes her face look wider, compared to 35mm and even 50mm.
This is helpful especially in looking at the examples. I've always used the FE 50mm 1.8 for a lot of different stuff. Automotive photography, portrait, and some street photography. The FE 85mm 1.8 and GM 85mm 1.4 I'm quite addicted to using for automotive and portraiture. I generally do not get bored of the 85 as I like to experiment framing. The 50 I will get bored with fast! I have yet to try the 35mm but have seen some astounding work with it. After seeing this video, I'll upgrade and do some adding to the arsenal!
When you already know all of this stuff but you still enjoy watching this video. Good job on making this stuff fun to learn.
Excellent Video, Thank you for sharing this info and the great sample comparisons.. Keep up the great work Julia!!
I always heard that longer lenses were better for portrait , but shot people with 100mm other people say that's a good shot but the subject hates the photo! I guess we are used to our reflection close up and taking selfies from wider lense that the longer lens photos don't matchup with our self image. I think some distortion can be flattering, love the 35 shot for this model (although she looks stunning in all the shots!)
This is my favorite photography TH-cam channel! The content, the way she explains and that smile 😊
Thank you so much!
@@juliatrotti I just got the new tamron G2 28-75 and a 7iii let’s see if I can learn with your videos. Moving from a Canon T5 is like to learn a new language. Thank you and your partner for putting so much effort on teaching us.
Never knew a wider angle lens complimented rounder faces, very helpful!
It's actually not the lens itself but the viewpoint and distance that give the perspective in depicting a 3D world on a 2D surface. Then you would argue, but with the 85 I cannot get the angle of view at the distance of a 35 and that's true. But, in pure geometric terms, it's the distance, angle of view and angle to the subject that give the perspective. What Julia shows here is a valuable lesson for many. When you become experienced, you do not have to experiment with lenses and people to get the right combination, anymore. You'll have to train your brain to get to that point, and this will take some 10,000 conscious shots and the in-your-brain comparison between what-you-expected-before with what-you really-got. The general problem with wide angle lenses is that they bring you and the camera in the face of the model. Here is an important thing to consider: a female photographer is less "threatening" than a male, when in your face (as per functional MRI based psychological research of how women react to a woman versus a man, and how men respond to women or men, looking at activity in their amygdala where we have raised activity during risk assessment). So a Julia may have an easier time doing these wide angle portraits than an Andrew.
And my hypothesis is that "the people's" acceptance of wide-angle portraits (headshots or closer than half the body) with the associated perceived distortion has been facilitated by smartphones and selfies where people take a shot of themselves at an arm's length.
@@jpdj2715 It's quite a likely explanation.
35mm is very useful for portraits of Asian women.
This was sooooo informative! I've watched a couple of your vids today and you have cleared up soooo much. I'm still in the beginning phases of learning photography but I do want to be more versatile. Of course I started with the nifty fifty lol
Watched a ton of videos related to prime lenses suggestions and without a tthis is the best explained and informative video. Subscribed.
Beautiful model and gorgeous photos! I like the way the 35mm gives that editorial look with the distortion ☺️
this is the best comparison video I've seen so far. very straight to the point
I'm looking for a nice prime for portraits (I have the 20mm for vlogging and 28-75 G2 for zoom, but I'd like to have a dedicated nice portrait lens... hard to decide between the 35 & 50! Thanks for all the example shots!
I love watching all your videos, they're so fun!
This had lots of useful info. Going to watch again 😊❤️
35 and 85 are my go to! A lot of the time my 35 is what stays on my camera! The sigma 35 1.2 can definitely give some nice bokeh if you’re shooting wide open.
Love the lens advice but these photossssss >>>>. they are soooo gooood
Julia, there are many "similar" stuff around, but your summary is perfect, just in point, and very-well documented, as always : )
Thank you for posting this video, Julia. As you are undoubtedly aware, the lens does not distort or stretch the subject. The appearance of unflattering distortion is strictly a result of the lens-subject distance and nothing more. If you use a camera with a full-frame high resolution sensor, shoot all portraits with a 35mm lens, always stand back from the subject at least 6' irregardless of the final framing, and do all final framing (cropping) on the computer and not in the camera, you will find distortion-free useable images for all portrait situations using only the 35mm lens. With high resolution sensors, and the fact that so many images are now shared via the internet in sizes ranging from 2MB to 6MB, there is simply no need for anything other than a 35mm lens. So forget spending money on extra lenses and instead put the money saved toward photography lessons with pros like Julia Trotti, and your photos will improve. And always remember that every woman looks their best when no one can see their tiny hairs growing over their lip, or their crusty eyelashes - high resolution images shot full-frame in the camera using 85mm and 135mm lenses will NOT be attractive. So forget worrying about high resolution final images that show every tiny flaw in a woman's appearance, images that will require hours of retouching to make them presentable. One camera and one 35mm lens, and that's it.
As always, love these videos! I’m enjoying shooting with a Sigma 24-35 f2 on one camera and my little Canon 85 1.8 on another at events, I keep telling myself eventually I’ll get a 35 1.4 (either tamron or canon), and maybe the canon 85 1.4 IS, or - if I won the lottery - the new 85 1.2 RF, but for now it’s a really great combo!
Always enjoy seeing great photographers like yourself show the differences both in an analytical side by side comparison, but also demonstrating with a great model, great choice of angles, poses, expressions, and always well edited. You also really bring out the best in each lens!
Thanks again Julia, keep up the great work!
If you're getting a 35mm for Canon definitely go the Tamron f1.4, it's amazing and out-performs most other 35mm EF lenses.
@@JarraxQ definitely top of my list, just waiting for one coming up used, doesn’t happen a lot which I take to be a good sign! 😀
Thank you so much, I really appreciate it! I agree the Tamron f1.4 is a great 35mm lens, I have a review video about it that I posted way back. The only downside for me personally is that it's quite a heavy lens - but if you don't mind that, the results are definitely worth it!
@@juliatrotti That's very true it's certainly not a small lens. Definitely a factor worth considering when making a decision on what to buy!
Thanks so much the end part was super helpful. I have a 35mm prime and I'm trying to figure out what to get next (on a budget)! Think I'll go for the 50mm for now😊
35mm is my all time favorite focus length. I've shot entire films just on a 35mm. Love your videos Julia.
I really loved your video. Thank you for explaining so well 😊
I actually really love 35mm to show some of the background - it shifts the energy in the picture from very static and painting-like to a very dynamic one. I really love 85mm for potraits, but it can get boring very fast. 50mm is my favorite focal length, but lately, I'm also starting to use 35mm a lot. I also have 24mm lenses and I find them to be honestly the most challenging ones to use. So far I've only had success with shooting skating with 24mm - it really helps create a very dramatic dynamic look when shooting skaters, but you have to work with them closely and plan tricks ahead so that it is both safe for them and you, as you need to get really close!
See, it depends on what you do. For concerts i concluded that 85mm works best up close and 200mm or a 100-400 zoom from a distance (outdoors or well lit stages). 50 is useless and 35 works well for capturing the whole stage - but i don't take photos where i capture the stage. If i'd go wide i'd go 15mm.
I think to have all 3 is the best move , but hey I only have an 85 on your list , I do have a 45 though & use a 16mm apsc lens on my full frame camera for a 24mm lens for my wide shots . great video Julia , your 35mm work is my favourite
Great video, thank you. My favourite focal length for portraits at the moment is the 58mm 1.4 Voigtlander f mount adapted on a Nikon Z7. The 50mm 1.8 is my jack of all trades.
Very good analysis, I also use the 50mm as my favorite lens. I sold the 85, since I rarely used it, but I have a 35, which I wouldn't really use for close-up portraits. It might be able to "dot the trick", but I would rather crop the picture than get too close to the model due to the angle distortions. But I also have a 24-70 2.8, which is super-sharp and versatile, and usually, I don't like to kind of blur out the background too much. For that, if have the 50mm 1.4.
Excellent breakdown. Thanks
Thank you for these tips. As beginner photographer they are really helpful.
this review is exactly what I was looking for.. thanks!
I bought all three lenses and I have the 35mm on 90% of the time, barely use the 50mm! Every time I’ve taken it out I wished I brought my 35 instead! I love having the environment in my images (probably a bit too much😂), but I go to beautiful locations so not sure why I want to blur it out completely.
I always like your video's, and how you explain thing abd give examples. I have on my full frame all three these lenses from Sigma, aswell the 24mm from Sigma. They give perfect pictures.
28mm is also a great alternative to 35mm, though I love both focal lengths. 85mm is great for close up portraits with blown out bokeh. Thanks Julia.
Thanks Julia, that was superinteresting! About facial compression, for quite many clients I've noticed the same thing with 85-ish focal length (face width and jaw/neck appear to be bigger) and I will start using my 50mm more often in studio headshots. Basically close enough to fill the frame vertical for head and shoulders/upperbody but not any extreme close ups. I figure distorsion shouldn't be an issue then? No tilting or anything. Just "old school" headshots :-)
I used mostly 28mm in the past for portrait and recently got a old lens 105mm which quite close to 85mm. Thanks for explaining in which suitation or style that I want.
I in general use 85 for portrait since portrait is about the subject. so the compression and blur that 85 produces are most suitable for portrait in my opinion.
After 7 years in photography, i finally found the 35mm prime look to be the most pleasing, 5 years after and still loving the 35mm along with 85mm to compliment. I have never touched a 50mm lens for almost half a decade.
I’m wondering whether I should sell my 50! I agree 35 & 85 is 👍
I can't stand anything between 16 and 85, might aswell leave the camera home
My favourites have to be 35 and 50 mm .
I hate my 50mm lol
Above 50mm, wifey says her face starts to look too wide. She doesnt like 85 which I agree make you look wider. At 35mm she likes her face the best.
It was easy understand explanation and practical content. Thank you so much!!
Fantastic work, thank you!
You’re right about people’s face shapes suiting different focal lengths, it definitely isn’t the same for everyone. I guess it’s good to have a variety and experiment.
of course it's better to have all the focus ones, but how to make money on them, lol
If you are a photographer or aspiring one, it doesnt get much better than this video. Nice werkkkkk
My...beautiful pictures, gorgeous model, and the video is awesome. Thoroughly enjoyed this one!
Thanks so much!
Great video! Thanks a lot for all the insights. What do you think about 40mm lenses?
thkU 4 an all-round intro, very informative cheers
Thanks for this, I personally use and prefer the Sony Zeiss 55mm over the 85mm due to versatility.
JT I love your photos!!!
Amazing video Julia, you're always getting better and better, amazing comparison !!! Question, are you using the Accsoon CineEye to record your camera screen? Do you have any video showing how works? If not can you make one or explain on a future video? I find super nice how you show your perspective, it's a great addition to your content :) . Thank you very much for sharing your experiences with us !!!! You're the best!!
try OBS video
Thank you for this really informative video! I will recommend it to every novice photographer who tries to insist on zoom lenses as their first choice :) I think learning to use perspective early on is very important and I always recommend people to start with primes!
like your detailed comments and personal thoughts.
Hi, my favorite lens is a 28 MM, for most of my photography. However, when it comes to photographing people, a 28 MM requires me to get a bit too close, making them uncomfortable or overly self-conscious. I recently acquired a 85 MM 1.8 and it makes portraiture considerably easier, especially for the subjects, as I can photograph them from a relatively safe and comfortable position, making them more relaxed, spontaneous and natural.
A 28mm lens does not require anyone to get a bit too close to the subject. Forget about tight framing of the subject in camera. Instead, use your 28mm lens on a camera with a high resolution full-frame sensor, stand back 6' to 8' from the subject and shoot away with your only focusing on the posing, facial expressions, and lighting on the subject. Make all framing decisions on the computer and your images will be gorgeous and your subject will not appear to be distorted. As long as the final cropped digital image is no smaller than 6MP, you will have very presentable images for at least 95% of your work. And always remember that high resolution photography is the nemesis of beauty, especially for women.
New to photography but have already found that the 35mm that I bought is a great lens for almost everything I shoot. Thanks for posting this video.
Yep 35mm is my go to lens for almost everything! I love it haha
My favorite combo is my 24mm 1.4 G Master and 85mm 1.8.
This is exactly what I needed. Julia. any recommendations for lenses for videos on the other hand. ex wedding videographies?
Still super helpful. Thank you!
I recently got a 35mm f1.4 for my R6 and I've been absolutely loving it so far. I've also had a 50mm for a long time but I just found it was stuck in the middle like you described in the video. I have a selection of zooms as well but the 35mm is fast becoming my go-to lens.
I agree, I looove how versatile a 35mm is!
@@juliatrotti Definitely! I'm also really keen to pick up an 85mm prime but there are way too many choices when it comes to RF and adapted EF lenses 😂
alright nice video makes me think again about which lenses to choose but i also want to know which lens was used to shoot behind the scenes when u were taking shots and also which lens was used for your explaination shot
Please tell me I’m not the only one who fall in love with all the models in your videos!! 😂😂
Hi Julia. I am a fan. What about comparing these lenses on GROUP portraits - which would you use? Recently got the A7iv because of your videos. Thank you.
Awesome informative video... thanks!
Enjoyed the lens comparisons. What is the wire coming out of your camera? Is it a tether? Thanks!
I like the 35/85 prime combo for portraits. But I'm curious about trying 24/50/135 prime trio.
i have 35 and 50 on full frame...i want the 85...great work! thanks!
I've tried all three focal lengths and for me, the 85 gets boring really fast after a while since the background always gets blown out easily. I've been leaning towards the 35-50 side for all portrait/landscape stuff now!
Agreed 85 is so overrated. Here in the UK I don't usually have the space to back up - everything is indoors.
Ive got my lens down to 18mm interior /exterior 24mm people with environment and 50mm portrait details and product. Those three sort most of what you need
Yes, 85mm is very limiting for me due to the longer minimum focus distance. My go to is a wide lens with the 50mm being my most used lens and then a 105mm macro lens to cover all bases.
Minimal but a very versatile setup for me.
Agree on the other comments for the 85, was never a fan of this focal length even though I have had it in my kit for years, the framing is just too tight for my taste and there's usually not enough space to back up. The 50mm is a lot more versatile with plenty of bokeh wide open already with f1.2/f1.4, and if I need anything wider for subject and environment shots, I'll reach for 24GM or 14GM for really tight places.
@Carl you do know and 85mm is designed to blur out the background right at lower apertures right? The reason you want the blurred out background is for subject focus and removing distracting elements in the background (or boring backgrounds). If you hate the blur, just raise the aperture to 5.6 or higher and you’ll easily get sharper backgrounds. As for complaints about it being too close… guys/girls come on. It’s a portrait lens. It’s designed for close in shots that are half body or less.
@@thewhoopimen Yeah, I'm aware of being able to stop down to lower get sharper backgrounds. The point I was trying to make is that (for me at least) it's easy to get lazy with the lens even if it's stopped down because of the background compression, that's why I said it gets boring because the compositions aren't as interesting compared to other lenses such as a 35 or 50. Blurred out backgrounds are cool and I'm not ragging on the 85. It's just that it gets boring for me personally to bring a lens like that to a shoot. I've shot a ton with the 85, and I liked it, but it's too plain for what I do nowadays and reach for other focal lengths instead.
Shooting a ton with all three, I'll definitely agree they all have their uses. Personally though, when I cull a set I'll always pick 50mm shots a ton more than anything else at the end of the day. No idea why exactly, but it is what it is.
I have all three for general use and portraits. I use 35mm the most because it's most versatile for kids, family, and walk around. 50mm is nice for portraits with good bokeh at f1.8 and still flexible so I use it second most. 85mm is good for bokeh portraits but I rarely use it because it's more specialized for set up photos. 85mm is also difficult to take group pics without upping the aperture
I agree, I definitely prefer the 85 for solo pics! Sometimes I use it for portraits at a wedding with a couple, but for families it can get tricky since you need a lot of space to step back.
Fantastic work
For practical reasons, what you say is right. What really changes "distortion" and the shape of the face is the distance really. All the lens really does is magnifiying the image more or less. If you stay at the same distance of the subject with the 35mm as with the 85mm and cut out the face as a face shot, you get the same effect as with the 85mm, just with less resolution.
This is not true
@@adamjobs Prove it! Perspective and distance are the only relevant parameters for the optical effect.
This is very true. Try it. There is a reason the "real" focal length changes when you are using an APS-C lens. You have to stand further back to get the same farming, which effects the distortion.
@@KennethLyVideography Then again, when you use the very same lens on FF and APSc, make let's say a half body portrait with the FF camera, stay in the same spot and make the photo with the APSc camera (and same lens), you get just the crop of the first photo, the inner part. Perspective and optical effect is exactly the same just cropped. The rest was said in the last posting above.
excellent breakdown !!
Great video and very intuitive comparison! I also shoot with only prime lens and would love to know what's your thought on a 135mm lens.
Just the video I needed!
I use both a zoom and prone in my kit. I use a 35 1.8 and a 70-180 2.8. The bokeh I get with the prime is why I carry it around.
Hello and thank you for this videos and these beautiful photos! Personally I really like my Combo. Canon RP + RF 50mm f1.8 stm. I hesitate to buy this RF 35 f1.8 Macro as well, because I'm not sure it really gives me much more than with my RF 50mm ? What do you think ?
Thank you Julia! Just what I needed🤍
Thank you! I'm glad you liked it 😄
I love your videos... I got my 50 1.4 because of you, know I'm thinking about the 35 :-D
Thanks for all that information on those lenses. 🙂
Awesome vid, thanks
Love my 50mm and 100mm macro lenses 🥰
Among 3 types of lens, each has typical effects-Beautiful photos
Funny you say about usually shooting with a 35 & 85 as the last wedding I did I limited myself to these lenses and really liked it
Thanks. Nice job
Thanks Julia..👍❤
When I started photography I use 50mm prime until now
thanks, that was very helpful, I am going for the 35 mm :-)
I love to use 35 for family. I feel close when I see photo. It can take group of people , it shows the background for travel portrait , i love 35gm and distagon
❤️❤️❤️very helpful
Head & shoulders - I stand further back & shoot 85-90mm. Upper body - I shoot 50mm and full body - I shoot 35mm. If shooting close then normally it’s 35mm all the time. But hey, its easy to zoom in and out just by using our feet and taking a few steps backwards or forwards as needed.
Good practical comparison 👍
Colorbee photography (Melbourne based) youtube channel back in 2018 made a video recommending 35mm to beginner over 50 as well as 85. One of the arguments used against 85 was the same as what you've said regarding 85 has the tendency of flattening the face features in a closeup portrait shot of someone with a rounder face. I didn't believe the host. But since you've mentioned this, I really need to put this to the test and see for myself. Thanks for sharing by the way.
Good work Yulia ❤️ thank you
Thank you!