Наташа большая молодец!!!Смотрю и восхищаюсь ее талантом и что сказать в то время советская хореография была одна из лучших в мире,а наши гимнастки выступали с душой!Это было настоящее искусство и мастерство!
Natalia Shaposhnikova performing and her particularity as always sensibility and solid athletics, a rare combinaison in russian gymnastics. She is splendid !
I totally agree... Its a very 'quiet' gymnastics, because '72 made Korbut, and '76 made Comeneci, 84' made Mary-Lou and so on... 80 was less consipcuous but I believe Gymnastics was at its peak in many ways here, when Artistry was just peaking with true acrobatics... Sydney was a shame, because it was a great competition and venue :-) But the Vault and poor Raducan really spoilt things....
I forgot to mentiona that Rastorotsky also coached the wonderful Natalia Yurchenko: it was he who dreamed up the vault which is now the most popular style of entry in gymnastics, the roundoff approach to the vaulting platform. Natalia Yurchenko first showcased it in 1985.
I had to run over and watch this Shapo Fx AGAIN because I just saw Beth Tweddle's 2011 Euro FX, My eyes!!! Shapo will restore the BALANCE that is supposed to be ARTISTIC gymnastics!! :)
Just rewatching this routine, and I think you are right; being a very flexible gymnast, she tends to trade off power for flexibility. She almost hyperextends her leaps, but her tumbling is pretty low and quite "archy"(back flex). I still love this routine though and would love to see gymnasts dance like they used to:(
Actually, Yurchencko unveiled it at the Spartakiad 1982 and internationally at the World Cup that same year. It didn't get popular until 1985 (ironically it was Shushunova who won the world title with it and by then several of the Romanians were performing it as well). However, I have a feeling that had the Soviets participated in the 1984 Olympics, most of the team would have vaulted a Yurchencko full.
Hmm.... For a Soviet, this routine is just ok. The tumbling isn't all that great and I felt this routine wasn't very well suited for Shaposhnikova. She's a great dancer and the choreography was good, but overall she seemed a little at odds with the music imo.
I dont agree. Even though the pure classic suited her better she still had the most difficult tumbling combined with lyricism only Lysenko could do on Shaposhnikovas level. Comaneci had incredibly bad choreo and boring tumbling which also was messy. Kim was brute like a lumberjack so I dont know how I would score them, but Natalia had the best package.
no her first tumbling pass is round off 1 1/2 twisting layout, bhs,double pike her second tumbling pass is a double twist and her third tumbling pass is also a double twist.
Yes i think you're right... Plus shes much faster through her tumbling then the other gymnasts of her day, I think the springiness of the floor today allows gymnasts to not have to work so hard on their technique, its much easier to have good form and impulsion on a springier floor....
You're right..but she since ive watched it more im starting to see her excellent musicality...the whole routine flows very nicely...the middle tumbling run is beautifully poised...
No. But watching some of the vids from this Olympics, I just got the impression that the floor was kinda hard because almost every landings I saw looked jarred and it seemed like their knees were taking all the pressure.
I just thought i'd share my thought here.... as many times as ive seen this video (and ofcourse made my own, as we all know), its bizarre when you consider shapo (circa 80) is probably about the same size as moceanu (circa 96) and yet her grace and lines make her distinctly more feminie and gracious (and 5 years age difference ofcourse) and appear FAR taller than she probably is... she doesnt look short at all....
Her coach Vladislav Rastorotsky had some wonderful gymnasts: Natalia, Ludmila Tourishcheva, Albina Shishova. All coached by him. He had some very strange coaching methods. But he certainly knew how to make gymnastics artistic;)
Actually Shawn does get deducted on her "split" leaps; the split must hit at least 180 degrees(full split) for the gymnast to be given the credit for it. You would have thought that Shawn's coaches, being Chinese, who are renowned for their attention to things like flexibility, would have rectified this wouldnt you?
So would I!!! Believe me, when I said she hyperextends her leaps, I meant it as a GOOD thing!!! I hate seeing some of the poor excuses which pass as "ring leaps", "switch ring leaps" and "split leaps" these days:(I also hate to see sheep jumps where the feet dont touch the head. That should be a deduction, as the element requires that the feet touch at least the hair, and I am going off topic now........lol.........
The floor was definitely less sprung, it has become progressively more sprung, perhaps the floor in 2007 worlds was more old school....Who knows...but your right, hence the massive effort the rotations look...
The greatest, sexiest, and most dynmaic floor exercise in the history of gymanstics. How did she not win the gold medal for this glorious routine???!!! As great as Anna Pavlova is, and she is great; yes, Shapo was clearly more talented. The only gymanst more talented was probably Mukhina.
I was just kidding when I said that it was awesome. You should be ashamed of yourself making fun of Natalia like that. She was such a sweet girl. She was one of the best of all time.
i like this routine a lot too,and i like natalia...she is goood gymnast and really cute,but i think she is not teqnicly perfect... she was the bes on vault,not beam
I don't mean to discredit Shaposhnikova, but it's a shame she qualified for the floor EF. Naimushina and Davydova had a much greater chance to win the gold over Nadia on floor.
Fair and square Beth cant dance, BUT....shes cert not alone is she (like the current Olympic champion on floor cough cough) thats where the likeness of Tweddle and Raisman ends though, Beth can point her godamn toes.......
I dont get it? How am I making fun of Natalia? I love this routine and made my own version?.....You need a reality check man...Its a tribute not a pisstake....
Beautiful routine, great tumbling. And she only got bronze because Kim and Comaneci tied for gold. What a rip-off. This routine deserved at least a silver compared to the others. Only Gnauck had more difficulty.
Yes it a farce Nadia and Nelli tied for gold. When they should have been like 4th or 5th. Both should have been ashamed. I loved the crowd booing their lame asses off on the podium while sharing their "gold" (snickers) medal. Nadia earlier that same night had been gifted a gold on beam too. The entire judging of these Olympics were a farce with Nadia, Nelli, that crummy East German gymnast (not Gnauck, the other ones) the biggest beneficiaries all games and Shaposhnikova, Gnauck, Davydova (despite deservedly winning the AA, thank goodness) the biggest victims.
Cry harder, you hater. Nadia's compulsory FX was perfect. The best optional FX Soviet gymnasts failed on compulsory so they couldn't even make the final. Why did Nadia have to take risks in the final when her compulsory guaranteed her gold if she did a clean optional in the final?
Наташа большая молодец!!!Смотрю и восхищаюсь ее талантом и что сказать в то время советская хореография была одна из лучших в мире,а наши гимнастки выступали с душой!Это было настоящее искусство и мастерство!
Natalia Shaposhnikova performing and her particularity as always sensibility and solid athletics, a rare combinaison in russian gymnastics. She is splendid !
Какая пластика и красота, Наташа была удивительная гимнастка❤
Прошло 40 лет, а Красота Наташи все краше и краше!!! Лучшая!!!
wow that first pass was impressive for the 80s!!
Elias Flores Especially when you consider that the floors were not spring loaded back then.
It looked as hard as it was lol
She had already done it at the '78 Worlds - and actually overdid the double pike and crashed out of bounds!
One of the most beautiful gymnasts ever.
Great gymnast.Loved it.
Very stylish performance. Reminds 80s-era greatly!!!
I totally agree... Its a very 'quiet' gymnastics, because '72 made Korbut, and '76 made Comeneci, 84' made Mary-Lou and so on... 80 was less consipcuous but I believe Gymnastics was at its peak in many ways here, when Artistry was just peaking with true acrobatics...
Sydney was a shame, because it was a great competition and venue :-) But the Vault and poor Raducan really spoilt things....
In 1992, gymnasts were only completing a 1 1/2 twist into a double twist, much less into a double pike. Amazing Natalia did this in 1980.
Boginskaya did a 1 1/2 twist to a double back at the 1990 European championships
@@mmoran3 Dianne Durham did that pass back in 1984. But still, flash forward to 2021 and both are considerably rare.
Melhor de todas!
I forgot to mentiona that Rastorotsky also coached the wonderful Natalia Yurchenko: it was he who dreamed up the vault which is now the most popular style of entry in gymnastics, the roundoff approach to the vaulting platform. Natalia Yurchenko first showcased it in 1985.
I had to run over and watch this Shapo Fx AGAIN because I just saw Beth Tweddle's 2011 Euro FX, My eyes!!! Shapo will restore the BALANCE that is supposed to be ARTISTIC gymnastics!! :)
Just rewatching this routine, and I think you are right; being a very flexible gymnast, she tends to trade off power for flexibility. She almost hyperextends her leaps, but her tumbling is pretty low and quite "archy"(back flex). I still love this routine though and would love to see gymnasts dance like they used to:(
Наташа Супер !!!
Actually, Yurchencko unveiled it at the Spartakiad 1982 and internationally at the World Cup that same year.
It didn't get popular until 1985 (ironically it was Shushunova who won the world title with it and by then several of the Romanians were performing it as well).
However, I have a feeling that had the Soviets participated in the 1984 Olympics, most of the team would have vaulted a Yurchencko full.
Всегда восхищаюсь нашими гимнастами, для меня они лучшие в мире.
MUY BUENA EJECUCION.
Thats my coach now!
Hmm.... For a Soviet, this routine is just ok. The tumbling isn't all that great and I felt this routine wasn't very well suited for Shaposhnikova. She's a great dancer and the choreography was good, but overall she seemed a little at odds with the music imo.
I dont agree. Even though the pure classic suited her better she still had the most difficult tumbling combined with lyricism only Lysenko could do on Shaposhnikovas level.
Comaneci had incredibly bad choreo and boring tumbling which also was messy. Kim was brute like a lumberjack so I dont know how I would score them, but Natalia had the best package.
no
her first tumbling pass is round off 1 1/2 twisting layout, bhs,double pike
her second tumbling pass is a double twist and her third tumbling pass is also a double twist.
Absolutely smashing gymnast!
Yes i think you're right... Plus shes much faster through her tumbling then the other gymnasts of her day, I think the springiness of the floor today allows gymnasts to not have to work so hard on their technique, its much easier to have good form and impulsion on a springier floor....
You're right..but she since ive watched it more im starting to see her excellent musicality...the whole routine flows very nicely...the middle tumbling run is beautifully poised...
No. But watching some of the vids from this Olympics, I just got the impression that the floor was kinda hard because almost every landings I saw looked jarred and it seemed like their knees were taking all the pressure.
I just thought i'd share my thought here.... as many times as ive seen this video (and ofcourse made my own, as we all know), its bizarre when you consider shapo (circa 80) is probably about the same size as moceanu (circa 96) and yet her grace and lines make her distinctly more feminie and gracious (and 5 years age difference ofcourse) and appear FAR taller than she probably is... she doesnt look short at all....
This exercise was way ahead of its time, both in terms of jumps and leaps, as well as in relation to tumbling diagonals.
Шапошникова Супер !!!
I did check it out. It was simply awesome! Thank you very much for telling me about it.
her landings are hard somehow,and if you watch her performance of so many skills,she is not really tehnicly perfect,but i love her soooo much....
Her coach Vladislav Rastorotsky had some wonderful gymnasts: Natalia, Ludmila Tourishcheva, Albina Shishova. All coached by him. He had some very strange coaching methods. But he certainly knew how to make gymnastics artistic;)
Actually Shawn does get deducted on her "split" leaps; the split must hit at least 180 degrees(full split) for the gymnast to be given the credit for it. You would have thought that Shawn's coaches, being Chinese, who are renowned for their attention to things like flexibility, would have rectified this wouldnt you?
Practically 44 years later, people like Ava Stewart still use Natalia's first diagonal.
9.90 and a bronze medal in the last performance by Natalia. After Moscow Games, she did not compete any more, at the age of 19.
I don't think her energy matches the music. They should've gone with something slower.
KaBoom first thing i saw anyway it wasnt her falt shes very good indeed
What is the name of the music?
th-cam.com/video/gDPz3LWP9JE/w-d-xo.html
@@MrMartinportnoy Thank you.
So would I!!! Believe me, when I said she hyperextends her leaps, I meant it as a GOOD thing!!! I hate seeing some of the poor excuses which pass as "ring leaps", "switch ring leaps" and "split leaps" these days:(I also hate to see sheep jumps where the feet dont touch the head. That should be a deduction, as the element requires that the feet touch at least the hair, and I am going off topic now........lol.........
Its all quite static really....Lacking in ''Pzazz'' big time...but I always liked her alot too...
Lindona.
sorry for the abrupt tone of that btw i think i was multi tasking at the time lol
The floor was definitely less sprung, it has become progressively more sprung, perhaps the floor in 2007 worlds was more old school....Who knows...but your right, hence the massive effort the rotations look...
No spring floor in 1980 Moscow Olympics
This music remind me of something from Final Fantasy 4.
The greatest, sexiest, and most dynmaic floor exercise in the history of gymanstics. How did she not win the gold medal for this glorious routine???!!! As great as Anna Pavlova is, and she is great; yes, Shapo was clearly more talented. The only gymanst more talented was probably Mukhina.
Im laughing my head off now! Do a bid more research please before giving comments like this. Hahahaha
I'm not saying it's a bad routine. I'm just saying both Naimushina and Filatova deserved finals spots more than either nelli or Shaposh.
looking camp right in the eye
Please type in 'shaposhnikova 1980 my version'.... I have literally made my own tribute lol..Im sure you'll appeciate it swale...
Brenna Dowell has the same music now!
I was just kidding when I said that it was awesome. You should be ashamed of yourself making fun of Natalia like that. She was such a sweet girl. She was one of the best of all time.
Definitely not onrthe best of all time thats for sure. People get carried away when they like a special gymnast
Definitely not one of best of all time thats for sure. People get carried away when they like a specific gymnast...
i like this routine a lot too,and i like natalia...she is goood gymnast and really cute,but i think she is not teqnicly perfect...
she was the bes on vault,not beam
I don't mean to discredit Shaposhnikova, but it's a shame she qualified for the floor EF. Naimushina and Davydova had a much greater chance to win the gold over Nadia on floor.
Yeah thanks to the compulsories… I feel Nadia would have been gifted the gold anyway.
It's a shame that Nelli Kim qualified for floor finals, especially over Davidova.
by the way, that floor looked really hard.
Yes. Olympics had hard floors with no springs until 1984.
What’s the floor made out of? Lmao
Fair and square Beth cant dance, BUT....shes cert not alone is she (like the current Olympic champion on floor cough cough) thats where the likeness of Tweddle and Raisman ends though, Beth can point her godamn toes.......
I dont get it? How am I making fun of Natalia? I love this routine and made my own version?.....You need a reality check man...Its a tribute not a pisstake....
hahaha chante Clair music😂anyway very good
+aury love vintage 1942, Aram Khachaturian, Soviet composer. It's called Sabre Dance.
nineball039 oh thank you😂
Beautiful routine, great tumbling. And she only got bronze because Kim and Comaneci tied for gold. What a rip-off. This routine deserved at least a silver compared to the others. Only Gnauck had more difficulty.
Kim should not even have medalled
@@stephanfourie6879 Nadia should not have even medalled either.
Yes it a farce Nadia and Nelli tied for gold. When they should have been like 4th or 5th. Both should have been ashamed. I loved the crowd booing their lame asses off on the podium while sharing their "gold" (snickers) medal. Nadia earlier that same night had been gifted a gold on beam too. The entire judging of these Olympics were a farce with Nadia, Nelli, that crummy East German gymnast (not Gnauck, the other ones) the biggest beneficiaries all games and Shaposhnikova, Gnauck, Davydova (despite deservedly winning the AA, thank goodness) the biggest victims.
Cry harder, you hater. Nadia's compulsory FX was perfect. The best optional FX Soviet gymnasts failed on compulsory so they couldn't even make the final. Why did Nadia have to take risks in the final when her compulsory guaranteed her gold if she did a clean optional in the final?
@@stephanfourie6879 You mean Nadia should not have even medaled. Possibly not Kim either, but for sure not Nadia.
I"m glad they final got rid of the piano and allowed the girls to use a recording!
Nick Mann ????
@@rosspalmer4651 Prior to 1980 floor exercises were performed to a live piano.
Sloppy af
Natalia did compete in the UsSR till 1981 but never was in top shape or form again. She fell off Bob at their USSR championships.