For the boring people who wanna skip 🙄 Disclaimer- 0:00 💚 Hype boy Performance Video Reaction- 5:09 Hype boy thoughts- 8:03 ❣ Attention Music Video Reaction- 9:07 Attention thoughts- 13:31 💖 Hurt Music Video Reaction- 15:19 Hurt thoughts- 18:16 💫 Cookie Music Video Reaction: 20:55 Cookie thoughts- 24:53 🐻 Outro- 26:55 ❤🔥love you sm Thina
@@thekpopanalysis It seems ogkpopstan wants to keep her ethnicity confidential for some reason, because she still hasn't replied to me. Then what ethnicity is she - you should know what ethnicity she is, if you know she's not Korean.
@@MrMusic4676 just because she hasn't replied don't mean she is keeping it secret. A lot of times creators don't see comment replies. And I can't remember for sure as it's been a while since she's said it in a video I think but iirc she's Japanese and/or filipino
I'm glad you're still reacting! Their ages are young for us 20 year olds but if Jungkook, IU, Tzuyu and Fifth Harmony can debut in their teens and have the success they did as teenagers, I root for NewJeans as well!
As a 24 year old who has been a fan since I was 16, I think a majority of us are getting older so seeing people born after 2000s debuting is probably a reason for the shock factor ? but let them chase their dreams
Just because it’s normalised does not mean it’s ok. It’s not about success it’s about safety, and just as we expected old men are standing this children, they’re weak in vocals and dance, therefore they shouldn’t have debuted at such an age
Im glad youre reacting. This group is such a breathe of fresh air. Very talented, different, yet nostalgic. Yes...their ages are a bit too young for most peoples taste but the music and performances speaks for itself without people saying or doing the most. As for the person running the show and her "scandal"...honestly...its all alleged. Shes not necessarily in trouble for anything (plus this has nothing to do with the girls or the group) and most of the accusations are simply rumors. People are just being extra without knowing actual facts and running with it. Glad you clarified, respected, and did what you wanted to do.
Well its natural for gp to get triggered easily since these girls are very young and it isn’t unusual for children like them to be manipulated easily or even ab*sed. Especially with the recent fan meet. Imo, they should wait til all the members are adults to do fan meets since they are super young
@@letyv9071 The way some people talk about teenagers holy shit. We're not animals or something that has to be locked away and 'protected'. We're people with our own dreams, desires and intelligence. Pretty sure some of us are smarter than any of you will ever be.
@@jamnana2235 please shut up. Don’t even start with that. As a teenager, of course we need to be protected. Do you know how many people want to take advantage of us? The career they are going into is full of social pressure, ed’s, and peer pressure plastic surgery. Not to mention, if this group is like other hybe groups, that this fourteen year old girl may be trapped in a seven year contract-until 21. If that’s not explorative to you, you’re obvs not mature enough to look at the bigger picture. Because what does a company benefit from debuting a group full of teens? Exploitation.
Yep! If you have time on your own, check them out! “Attention” came out first and grabbed our attention :) & then the Hype Boy MVs continued the storyline 👍 def a fresh late 90s sound
Hype Boy might be my favorite song this year so far. They have a few versions of the MV and I have watched them all...repeatedly and am still not sick of the song. Such a good song and they can sing! I can't wait to see what's next!
I think one of the reasons NewJeans is getting so popular is because they feel relatable. A lot of Kpop has the artists looking like an 11/10 by dressing them in increasingly extravagant outfits, putting them in crazy scenes in the MV's and what not. But with NewJeans, they are dressed in relatively regular clothes (although a bit oldschool). They are in settings like the beach, a small town concert, or a house party. I think they are being marketed as very relatable and approachable, while also playing into their cute look, their incredible vocal talents, great dancing, and a style of music which you don't hear a ton of from the mainstream groups. All of this put together is a recipe for success for NewJeans. I'm excited to see what they bring next ^_^
"NewJeans is a double-meaning name. Firstly, jeans as a piece of garment are known for their timelessness. Each generation has its emblematic new style of jeans. This group follows the same ambition to become a representative figure of this generation’s pop culture." Timelessness - i think that's why their music and theme is like the y2k. And i also think theyll be showing us other eras of music on their next comebacks. Was also hesitant to stan this group but their music is chef's kiss. It's really my vibe!!
@@heart5077 because of their age. I feel bad for the maknae. She’s still a baby, she should be in school. Going crazy over kpop idols like most girls her age. But then it’s her choiceeee.
their music is also my vibe but like you, I'm hesitant to stan bc of their age, bc I stan almost 100 different groups/soloist (when you include the disbanded, groups on hiatus and current groups) and it's time consuming to remember all names of individuals
@nihilist gyu didnt say it was against her will anyway too. It’s her choice. Just concerned because we all know being an idol is not easy physically and mentally :)
appreciate that you're focusing on the music because honestly, it's hard to hold that against them it's just that dreamy and COOL. So self-assured right out the gate
Critics claim that it should have been expressed as "Cookie's'' rather than "Cookie'', but in Korea, it is generally expressed as "Cookie'', and you can see "Cookie'' written on signs. I think this song is some kind of fan song
There will almost always be hate regarding hybe groups especially the newer ones. Sad that this is happening but not surprised seeing how very successful the company is right now. Rumors be goin crazy even though the manager already explained abt this. Anyways, stan NewJeans the future of Kpop alongside the other Hybe labels' artists.
@@wiztiny9910 almost all idols groups debut underage idols, not only idols but teens have been working in the industry for decades with the approval of their parents of course. But suddenly kpopies now have an issue about only related to newjeans. And if it not just related to newjeans then they should speak up about every group too
I heard someone saying that that cookie is not a metafor for the women’s parts but for records, and that the concept of the song is like, you’ll be so addicted to the records we put out and stuff and that it also represented like the gift at the end of the album, like the desert they were giving us to complete the album, and since I heard it I just think the song is 10 times better
I clicked so fast! I’m glad you enjoyed New Jeans like me! Thank you for your honesty with this reaction. I personally don’t believe you even need to make a disclaimer; you are a reactor that can react to anything you want to react to. People like me enjoy your honest reactions, controversial or not. Keep doing you! ❤️
I could be wrong but I feel like they're the sharpest dancers I've seen from a female kpop group in a while. I also feel like they're choreo is a little more complex and intricate than other groups out right now. Super solid dancing from them. I was pretty impressed.
I love Newjeans, their debut songs are all amazing. No skip. I love their song Cookie. I didn’t think anything of it until people started freaking out. Makes me wonder if they all thought about the fact that some of the members didn’t even know this about the word’s doubling meaning and now they do cuz of these people freaking out.. it’s a great song. I love all of their choreographies too! I adore them and I hope they go far as long as they want to!!!
I’m “freaking out” because people are making excuses for adults literally making children sing a song like that KNOWING they don’t understand what they are saying. That makes it exploitation of minors.
My bias is Danielle, I love the way she is cute, kind and charismatic but at the same time she awakens that dominance confidence, her smile is like sunshine
Tanya Tucker, an American country & western star, sang Delta Dawn in 1972 as her debut. She was only 13 and an American super star. Have a listen to that song someday..LOL Too me, Cookie is just cute even with the innuendos.
The intended way to interpret "cookie" in the Korean context is CD , like a music CD. The best way i can relate it is they dropped a mixtape and once you listen, you'll be wanting more. That's why the CD and cookie transition back and forth.
NewJeans got such 'too young to debut' labeled because of the producer Min Heejin's past controversy but people ignore the fact IVE members are also debut in very young age, Leeseo the maknae is 2007-er and they debuted in 2021 means same age with Hyein (NewJeans maknae) as 2008-er when debuted in 2022. Also there are some boygroups for example Enhypen which debuted in 2020, the maknae Ni-ki is 2005-er & the only one legal age member was Heeseung at that time. I just feel sorry why NewJeans girls got many hate, criticism, and labeled but for other groups got double standard for that.
@@just_a_saeu88 knetz love them tho, u can see from their yt comment all korean comment its full of korean praising them & and they keep on trending positively in several k-comunity, only minority left negative comment. Its only kpoopies who makes such a fuss from making fun of their ages an so on jeez, more negative comments come from kpoopiez
@@just_a_saeu88 not knetz, they adore newjeans. just kpoppies online that's just against newjeans... mostly are also fans of groups that's the same age liners as newjeans too
@@eaf3215 wrong. the lyrics is fine & korean people + k-idols loves them, accepted them as cute concept since the start. those rumor & speculations only came from ‘non-korean speaker kpop fans’ which is no way for you to believe that instantly😵💫
Ni-ki from Enhypen danced Hype Boy with them and in a v-live. They girls talked about how great he is and that they really practiced hard so they would look good dancing next to him. Sunoo also did Attention with them and they said they had a lot of fun and of course his facial expressions were amazing. I am just so happy to see all the HYBE artist interactions! They even have been recycling their outfits between the groups which is cool. NewJeans and ENHYPEN are both killing it! Amazing vocals, dancing, and visuals! (All the members are so TALL too!) 🇺🇸🥰🔀💜👖
i loooove New Jeans....for a new and young kpop girl group to dive into a 90's R&B style with modern pop vibe, it's definitely a breathe of fresh air to the current music style that is currently out right now
Despite the controversy. I just love them for their songs and their choreography. I think they sound different from typical kpop songs. Even though they only have four songs I love all of them.
Just found your channel and I really loved your knowledgeable and mature take. As for the double meanings, back in the 70s and 80s there were many songs like boogie-fever, blame-it-on-the -boogie, boogie-wonderland, jungle-boogie which could be interpreted in a sexual way, if your mind thought that way. Newjeans is what drew me into Kpop - they are a game-changer and if you watch the interviews with their CEO and producer, a brilliant woman named Min Hee-Jin, you will see how much she cares for them and includes their families.
Yay this lovely, kind and genuinely talented girls. Thank u for reacting to them. Their music is really a breath of fresh air, very youthful and nostalgic. I was quite unsure of their music at first but I just find myself replaying 'Hype Boy' and the other tracks HAHAHA. Their music are topping charts recently and they've been applauded by many seniors which is a very great achievement for them.
I'm sad that you have to put in a long disclaimer because people overreact and take things out of context all the time. Happy that you're reacting still, I've been looking forward to this reaction so I could hear your opinions on the dancing style of NJ. Keep doing what you're doing, we love your reactions!
This group debut is such a polished product==from the music to the lyrics, from the choreography to the MVs, down to the styling, they alll come together nicely, artistically speaking==that I'm inclined to think that the controversy/discussion around the appropriateness of the lyrics of "Cookie" is intentional/orchestrated. HYBE know what they are doing.
not gonna lie, my favourite song both in terms of music and choreography is cookie. i think the company knows what it's doing, and we as the audience will have differing opinions on it, I believe it's valid to be concerned, but I will give those responsible for the concept and writing of cookies the benefit of the doubt and enjoy as a song about their addictive, playful, sensual and sweet discography - it certainly is one of, if not THE most alluring song from new jeans so far. and i hope that while people put pressure on companies and certain key persons involved whenever needed, we can continue to enjoy new jeans' music and support the girls.
Like you I'm an OG Kpop stan since the late 90's. New Jeans reminds me a lot of Baby Vox. Particularly the vibe and styling of Hype Boy. Definitely a pleasant throwback to 90's R and B.
Ador, the company NewJeans is under, released an official statement explaining their intentions and thought process while writing the songs. The song is for the fans and in Korea "baking cookie" has the same meaning as "burning CD". In the mv we can see a cookie roll in the begining while we see a CD rolling at the end. I hope people can stop hating Ador and NewJeans since it has been adressed and explained.
@@sotroof That’s the point. There is no double entendre for Cookie. There was never meant to be, and it was only brought up because of the reactions of people who believed it to be so (like yourself, no shade). You have to remember the song was translated into Korean, for Korean’s, first and foremost. I’m 100% the general Korean public would be bashing Hybe and ADOR if the song was a double entendre on their first listen. Instead the only Korean’s who are trying to bash Hybe and ADOR are the ones who claim to have “heard about,” another meaning of ‘Cookie’ from foreigners.
@@sotroof everybody is hating on NewJeans because there at least 17 GROUPS active right now that debuted minors including Classy where the youngest member is 13, Leeseo with IVE and Wonyoung with Iz*one and IVE, and not too long ago JYP debuted a boy group with the youngest member 13 years old (Boy Story). Like it's so comical that people only seem to remember the age question when it comes to NewJeans and not ITZY for example, it's weird and transparently insincere.
I'm a fan of the older gen kpop and I'm glad I was able to discover Newjeans' "Attention" I was immediately hooked because of the the old school vibe it had. I didn't expect much because I didn't really know anything about them or which record label they're under but I listened to their album and I loved all of the songs which is such a rare occurance for me😭 I lost interest in Kpop when 4th gen groups started rolling around but Newjeans saved this gen for me.
In korea, a lot of CD-player generation already knew what the lyrics meant. Baking is 굽다 in Korean. We can use this verb to bake a cookie, but during the cd generation we also used to “bake” CD with music so that we can carry around and listen on our cd player. I can say it is a little similar how we used to say “burn” a CD which obviously doesn’t mean actually setting it on fire. In the music video a huge cookie first appears in the background. And in the end of the video a huge CD appears in a similar manner. There are several other graphics throughout the video with CD and cookies. I guess the post-production team tried to convey the message they best could. Anyways according to their agency’s explanation this song it about NewJeans’ many more songs to come that they wish to share to the listeners and fans. Again, the lyrics could have had other hidden innuendos but as a CD generation myself i thought the cookie idea was very cute 😊
I'm glad u talked about how talented the girls are and how nice their vocals are, few reactors talk about talent tho, all the members have really good vocals, but my favs are haerin and danielle, their vocals are just on another level ❤
people just hate on good things just because they are successful. New jeans is such a good group like bops after bops and already so successful. I'm glad you reacted to them. Also I'm not gonna talk about the "concerns/controversies" since many have already cleared up about it ❤️
Despite all the Min Hee Jin Scandal, i cannot deny how she is a great creative director. She has been working in SM for years and responsible for the Aesthetic Album feel that SM used to release. She gave birth with fx Pink Tape, Red Light and 4 Walls and RedVelvet's Ice Cream Cake, The Red and The Perfect Velvet. all of these albums has a Nostalgic feel. I am not feeling a Hybe group but an SM group. If fx and RV had a daughter, NJ would be it.
Thanks for still checking them out Thina. I really like all their tracks and the refreshing style. I think “Cookie” if interpreted as ADOR stated; it is a fine song. I missed the innuendo first listen as I was enjoying the music. It can be interpreted to be a bit suspect if we use the western slang for sure
its funny how people stopped you from reacting to them. They are actually loved by the Korean general public, it has been charting high for days now. People who stopped you from reacting probably have their favs listening to their songs. The issue is pretty much an allegation. The label addressed the lyrics stating that it really is an innocent song. The Korean public do not have an issue with it actually. They are from Hybe and people just want to taint them down.
You really are just saying lies at this point like the writers are native English speakers, they know what they wrote, in fact, they wrote it two years ago so just how gullible are you to be believing their half assed pr statement
Oh please you are just playing dumb. The song was written by ppl who speak english and are men. Either way debuting a middle schooler itself is already wrong
the lyrics for cookie are suggestive hybe can say it is innocent but at the end of the day the lyrics are fairly clear and the music video doesn't depict innocent fun like what the song is allegedly about
@@bhav2671 what do you mean? In the video they are literally dancing and there are cookies and a CD to represent the songs meaning. I agree that I am sure the original version of the song was meant to be suggestive. But they changed the lyrics to fit Korean standards about "baking" someone a CD. A good example of why this is not that big of a deal is kidz bop. Kidz bop takes pop songs (even suggestive ones) and rewrites them and has them performed by kids for kids. They have told us the meaning of the songs and Koreans agree that it is not suggestive in korean. So if you still associate that with hybe or ador or the girls then that's a you problem
@@bhav2671 it’s not suggestive. You as a viewer took it out of context and interpreted it how you wanted. The only people who had an issue with the lyrics were English speakers. Ironic isn’t it
Thanks for the reaction! Imo the drama and controversy are being bloated out of proportion a bit. The protection of minors is certainly a topic worth being discussed any day of the week. However given the officially explained cultural and semantic nuance at play, going into permanent cancel mode seems a bit knee-jerk. This has likely given the industry a reminder about being more considerate in such matters going forward, which could be considered a plus. I just hope the girls and their careers aren't impacted by this in too much of a negative way. Their songs slap, their choreography is fire and they are talented af. I for one stan and am looking forward to their first comeback.
I love NewJeans. Not very many people reacted to Hurt and it was my favorite of the first album. I wish the people who innocently only knew of a cd being called a cookie could retain their innocence. The choreo in Cookie is great, but the song has become a throwaway.
this outrage over their ages is ridiculous considering newjeans’ ages at debut are the same ages as ive and itzy when they debuted too 😂 it’s all just so hypocritical tbh. not to mention most the controversies surrounding them were heavily embellished and overblown by kpop stans. everyone loved newjeans when they came out with attention and hypeboy in july 22 but then a little over a week later once their preorder numbers came out… the switch up was INSANE 🥴 now they’re charting really well (3 songs in top 10 of melon and 100+ RAKS with attention) and korea seems to really love them so the newjeans hate seems to be here to stay. really goes to show that kpop stans only love something until they become successful and their own faves are threatened
twitter gg stans are just mad at their success, they basically eclipsed almost all girl groups in korea with only a debut, and they're from hybe so the hate was going to be there regardless of their age, anyways the girls are all extremely musically talented and super cheerful and positive, and ADOR is a really great sub label that knows how to manage them (for example, they didn't send them to non-music shows so that's already a great sign) looking forward to their comeback, I just know they'll do really well
I LOVE their Choreography and vocals, and I can't get over their moves in Hype Boy and Cookie. I definitely feel bad, especially with the lyrics in Cookie but I definitely hope for their success because these girls have talent. Great moves! Great reaction as well!
Some people seem to forget or not realize that most kpop idols start their careers at a very young age. Most idols that debuted at 17+ years of age trained for years prior to their debut. It's not unheard of, or even rare, that some idols start officially training at a company at age 10 to 12. Some start even earlier. Then we can get into how training is just as demanding and stressful as performing, if not more so. And this doesn't take into account the training they get at vocal and dance academies before they even audition for a company. Very rarely is anyone chosen by a company for idol training "off the street", with no prior dance and or vocal training. So, if you honestly and seriously have a problem with minors being kpop idols you really need to just give up on kpop in general because the vast majority of them start at a very young age. With that being said, naturally age needs to be taken into account when we're talking about younger idols. They do require some 'special handling' from the companies, mostly in the form of keeping things age appropriate, ensuring that they don't neglect their education and so on. As for the whole Cookie controversy, I think it's ridiculous. Another thing people seem to forget, or just don't understand, is the primary market for kpop, aka Korean pop, is Korea. As a result, people need to look at things from a Korean point of view. Yes, gaining popularity in the west is huge benefit, but the vast majority of kpop groups will cater, first and foremost, to their Korean audience. That's where the real money comes from. This entire scandal, which is based solely on a western (mostly US) interpretation of the lyrics is, as I said above, just ridiculous. And that's all I'm going to say about that.
this girls with not so over cuteness no so over make up not so over their hair style simply natural thats y without any teaser they appeared and loved by nationally and internationnally and by many senior idols first group with bo hate except some people who dont want hybe to suprass more thats not our problem 🤪😂
So glad you get to finally react to them! 🥰 I love them so much. So talented at such a young age. My fav is Hurt & Hype boy. Attention is definately that song to catch your 'attention'. Its a great debut song 💖 Cookie is a fun and hip song. It can be a metaphor for burn disc 23:13 Also, its a fan song ✨
I’m 18 and I’m such a fan. They just feel so fresh and their marketing is brilliant. I like how you said their sound is dreamy. I agree! I felt the same way with Love Dive and I love that type of sound. Unfortunately, the reality of minors in the K-pop industry is a bitter pill to swallow, although it’s been happening since the beginning of the genre. Especially since they keep debuting younger and younger. It definitely makes it harder to support their work.
They are all talented! And very refreshing concept compared to the other groups debuting these days. Love it! And love your reaction I kinda got the same groove as you are while reacting!
I totally agree on your disclaimer. People have been on both sides here. For example, Garam, we just have to wait for it all to clear fully, instead of pouncing on assumptions. Some people also say about age. I get it, I too am born the same year as Haerin. But, it was only a 1 year age difference of debut if you compare the maknae of NwJns and Jungkook. JK debuted at 15, and so did Tzuyu if I am not wrong, so I know it’s kind of young, but the I’ve is also very young. So with that. We just honestly need to suck it up since we can’t control the agency. They are young, but they freaking slay! 100+ calls from companies asking them to advertise their products, variety shows talking about them, even though they haven’t even went to one. Our favs talking about them. Placed 12th on Billboard World Albums of the week October 15 2022, which btw, “The Album” BP was 13th place. Their success is no joke, their potential is also no joke. Other than that, a very rounded group at that, despite the age. The “scandal” too, I mean, she isn’t in trouble, just speculations, and speculations aren’t the truth so we just wait for that honesty. Also, the company has stated with the “Cookie” incident where it was just a cultural misunderstanding of the meaning. You can search it up
I think you got the right word,dreamy song ,very groovy .I just hope that these young girls they are basically still kids won't get eaten by the industry and all the media attention.Hope also people will be very understanding towards them and won't lash their hate comments.
Although, yes, cookie has a cute meaning if it's in korean-the translated lyrics are just not it. Nonetheless, i love their sound so much and i hope they continue on doing it.
@@janana4462 exactly, they tried to play it out as if they were talking about CDs. Then that we americans are dirty minded and the song in Korean is different but the song was not written by a Korean. The woman that wrote it is known for songs with double meanings.
the lyrics as originally written in english are really bad but apparently the korean lyrics, the ones the group actually sings, are not sexual and the korean gp has had no problem with it. So I don't have that much of a problem with it as i would if the actual korean lyrics were super sexual too
Hybe recently released a statement that slapped back hard on the critics regarding the controversy. Those critics that stirred up controversy for views are harming the members, not protecting them. The members even made a video to explain what the "Cookie" lyrics meant for them. Instead of accepting the members and company's legitimate explanation, we have haters that keep insisting on the innuendos, pushing false narratives, and putting dirty words in their mouths are disgusting. "Attention," "Hype Boy," and "Cookie" ranked number 1, 2, and 10 respectively in the recent music chart. So obviously, the Korean public does not have a problem with them. Yet some Western audience insists that the world must know of American slang. Heck, I live in the US and I didn't even know there was a slang meaning for cookies. The members display tremendous talents already and I will root for their success.
Yes yes, only those people so called themselves trying to protect but make themselves the one who doesn't know anything. Especially with english-american slang speaker who always sexualize every words possible
I think most people wouldn't even notice Cookie's lyrics if it weren't for their producer. I believe the problem started to become apparent when Min Hee Jin's issue exploded. if you take that + Cookie's lyrics + adult man who are attending their fanmeeting (mind you Kpop fanmeeting are designed for fans to "satisfy" their fantasies about the idols including fantasies of dating them). it does not look good. I believe making noise about this would prompt Ador to be more vigilant and careful about this matter.
¹) pretty sure the rumors were inflated so much cuz they are from hybe. As expected. Every new group from hybe is bashed for random reasons ²) people just believe anything without looking for definitive proof. ³) why is everyone behaving as if the entire kpop industry doesn't debut minors. You all are behaving as if it has never happened before.
There are still so many people having problems with the lyrics of Cookie, even after the long and logical explanation by Hybe. If you are unable to comprehend that some countries don’t have the same nuances and slang as English (because it’s different language and culture, duh), you’re just one of those “the world revolves around my country” people. I am not from an English speaking country, English is my 3rd language. I’ve been studying it since I was 4 yo. Later in high school I started doing English tutoring for middle school kids, recently I have even gained a TEFL (level 5) certificate, so I can teach English oberseas. I have lived in England for 8 months. I consume my media mostly in English. And still I HAD NO IDEA THE LYRICS COULD BE INTERPRETED AS SUGGESTIVE!!! “You just need to learn more, I guess” could be somewhat a legitimate response to me…… if the lyrics were all in English. Like, seriously, the lyrics are mostly in Korean, but English speakers have problems with them because of a nuance meening of the word “cookie” in ENGLISH, NOT THE LANGUAGE THE SONG IS EVEN WRITTEN IN?! Get out of here. The only people having problem with the song os that type of western audience, showing that the lyrics are perfectly normal in Korea. There is no sexual undertone / nuance to it. It’s like Karaoke for example - for English speakers it’s just that, a room where you sing. For others it can be taken in a suggestive / sexual manner, because karaokes are often used by prostitutes in Japan and Korea.
I totally understand to be torn on them. I never listened to R'n'B and I love those songs, but I don't want to buy their album because thexy are so young. Like, there are a lot of good reasons, but personally I would feel weird to have an album in my shelf with pictures of 14 year olds..that's half my age. D: Also, while Cookie is my favourite music wise, the lyrics really can be read suggestive in an uncomfortable way. :/
Nice reaction thina, and, if you havent read yet, ADOR released statement about cookie's lyrics. Apparently they didnt know that cookie is sexual in western countries and they made a survey just to confirm that. But normal koreans find cookie's lyrics cute and childish
To be honest before knowing anything about the group I genuinely thought it's a group of a bunch of 10year olds by some people's reaction or may I say overreaction. But it turns out only one of the member is super young, the rest of them are at an age where hundreds of idols debuts at
Tbh the meaning behind Cookie's lyrics depends on how listeners interpret them, one can think that its inappropriate and one could just simply interpret them literally like they're just decribing the literal cookie that they made. And for me, I just like how refreshing it is. All of their songs actually
People are very hypocritical, they say a lot of things that are taken out of context and accuse people without any proof. It’s not worthy to listen to others without you checking out things by yourself and form your own opinion
I love your reactions!! I don’t know how people could hate on you; you are so sweet! Your comments are always so good too- you point out a lot of things so miss. I hope you are happy, healthy, and blessed!
I feel like people always debuted young, but its just the fact who manages them, and how the whole cookie song somehow got passed through tons of people despite their ages
This group is not overly sexualizing themselves as they are literally kids. Their dance performances are clean enough that they can dance in front of their parents without being shy about it because them girls should act n behave like their age. Bring cute without being sexual is the message here.
Cookie is a sexual song tbh. That song alone isn't appropriate for children to be singing. It's still a great song but they should have waited a few years for them to sing it
ador has posted their response on the cookie lyrics ”issue” and the ceo responded on the controversies about her. with regards to their age, debuting minors is not new to kpop but somehow, maybe because nwjns is under hybe and everyone’s just hopping on the hybe slander, it has become a big issue. whatever anyone says, they’re releasing very good songs and have really great potential. they’re doing great in the charts in korea and internationally too. no one can deny that they’re a great group.
@@sotroof did you even read it actually? they explain the creative process and break down what they intended with their original vision but they also apologize for the misunderstanding: "We see now that our intention behind the song was interpreted differently from our expectations and most importantly we apologize for everyone who has felt uncomfortable and concerned as a result." tho ofc y'all will just pick and choose what to believe so long as it fit your narrative, which ador ALSO acknowledged: "It’s possible that this long explanation would have no sway over people who have already made up their minds about the issue." but most importantly, and the one thing that flew over your heads, is that they also promised to do better: "Everyone at ADOR will do their best going forward to prevent any further misunderstanding." "Everything we have presented to you so far has come from a place of deep sincerity. No one’s perfect, but ADOR’s goal is to be friendly, open, and straightforward with our fans, and we’re actively working toward that end."
@@capucines3352 Yes. It would be better for them to just proclaim that they didn't know it would be intepreted this way and that they would be more cautious in the future but they give this longwinded bs about consulting professors (really?) and taffy the f**ing dog.
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@@ogkpopstan Are you of Korean decent (just curious)
@@MrMusic4676 I'm late but no she's not
@@thekpopanalysis It seems ogkpopstan wants to keep her ethnicity confidential for some reason, because she still hasn't replied to me.
Then what ethnicity is she - you should know what ethnicity she is, if you know she's not Korean.
@@MrMusic4676 just because she hasn't replied don't mean she is keeping it secret. A lot of times creators don't see comment replies. And I can't remember for sure as it's been a while since she's said it in a video I think but iirc she's Japanese and/or filipino
I'm glad you're still reacting! Their ages are young for us 20 year olds but if Jungkook, IU, Tzuyu and Fifth Harmony can debut in their teens and have the success they did as teenagers, I root for NewJeans as well!
Also.....Kwon Bo-ah / BoA was auditioned at 11 and debuted when she was 13 !! She's released 20 albums and been in the industry 22 years!! The Queen!!
@@de68a Exactly!
As a 24 year old who has been a fan since I was 16, I think a majority of us are getting older so seeing people born after 2000s debuting is probably a reason for the shock factor ? but let them chase their dreams
There are child actors too, some people are determined since childhood just let them chase their dreams
Just because it’s normalised does not mean it’s ok. It’s not about success it’s about safety, and just as we expected old men are standing this children, they’re weak in vocals and dance, therefore they shouldn’t have debuted at such an age
Im glad youre reacting. This group is such a breathe of fresh air. Very talented, different, yet nostalgic. Yes...their ages are a bit too young for most peoples taste but the music and performances speaks for itself without people saying or doing the most. As for the person running the show and her "scandal"...honestly...its all alleged. Shes not necessarily in trouble for anything (plus this has nothing to do with the girls or the group) and most of the accusations are simply rumors. People are just being extra without knowing actual facts and running with it. Glad you clarified, respected, and did what you wanted to do.
Her scandal isn’t “alleged” she’s a literal pedo…she’s sexualised so many minors
Well its natural for gp to get triggered easily since these girls are very young and it isn’t unusual for children like them to be manipulated easily or even ab*sed. Especially with the recent fan meet. Imo, they should wait til all the members are adults to do fan meets since they are super young
@@letyv9071 The way some people talk about teenagers holy shit. We're not animals or something that has to be locked away and 'protected'. We're people with our own dreams, desires and intelligence. Pretty sure some of us are smarter than any of you will ever be.
@@jamnana2235 it was never my intention to say anything like that. I don’t really see the correlation between my first comment and your response??
@@jamnana2235 please shut up. Don’t even start with that. As a teenager, of course we need to be protected. Do you know how many people want to take advantage of us? The career they are going into is full of social pressure, ed’s, and peer pressure plastic surgery. Not to mention, if this group is like other hybe groups, that this fourteen year old girl may be trapped in a seven year contract-until 21. If that’s not explorative to you, you’re obvs not mature enough to look at the bigger picture. Because what does a company benefit from debuting a group full of teens? Exploitation.
though there are A LOT of hype boy mvs, they’re so worth the watch and i recommend watching them on your own
Yep! If you have time on your own, check them out! “Attention” came out first and grabbed our attention :) & then the Hype Boy MVs continued the storyline 👍 def a fresh late 90s sound
Hype Boy might be my favorite song this year so far. They have a few versions of the MV and I have watched them all...repeatedly and am still not sick of the song. Such a good song and they can sing! I can't wait to see what's next!
I think one of the reasons NewJeans is getting so popular is because they feel relatable. A lot of Kpop has the artists looking like an 11/10 by dressing them in increasingly extravagant outfits, putting them in crazy scenes in the MV's and what not. But with NewJeans, they are dressed in relatively regular clothes (although a bit oldschool). They are in settings like the beach, a small town concert, or a house party. I think they are being marketed as very relatable and approachable, while also playing into their cute look, their incredible vocal talents, great dancing, and a style of music which you don't hear a ton of from the mainstream groups. All of this put together is a recipe for success for NewJeans.
I'm excited to see what they bring next ^_^
Butterfly hair clips was also quite popular back in 90's and 2000'smmm
"NewJeans is a double-meaning name. Firstly, jeans as a piece of garment are known for their timelessness. Each generation has its emblematic new style of jeans. This group follows the same ambition to become a representative figure of this generation’s pop culture."
Timelessness - i think that's why their music and theme is like the y2k. And i also think theyll be showing us other eras of music on their next comebacks.
Was also hesitant to stan this group but their music is chef's kiss. It's really my vibe!!
how can you debut with 3+1 songs and they're all bangers? trying hard not to stan cuz im so busy but i tend to want to listen to their songs daily.
Can I ask why you were hesitant to stan them ? If you're okay with that
@@heart5077 because of their age. I feel bad for the maknae. She’s still a baby, she should be in school. Going crazy over kpop idols like most girls her age. But then it’s her choiceeee.
their music is also my vibe but like you, I'm hesitant to stan bc of their age, bc I stan almost 100 different groups/soloist (when you include the disbanded, groups on hiatus and current groups) and it's time consuming to remember all names of individuals
@nihilist gyu didnt say it was against her will anyway too. It’s her choice. Just concerned because we all know being an idol is not easy physically and mentally :)
I love the nostalgic feeling behind all there songs soo far. I’m glad you like them. Also, love the hair
appreciate that you're focusing on the music because honestly, it's hard to hold that against them it's just that dreamy and COOL. So self-assured right out the gate
NewJeans is my favorite GG so far.
Their music are Top Tier from Attention, Hype Boy and Hurt
Sameee
Now Ditto and OMG, gosh
ikr cookie too
Critics claim that it should have been expressed as "Cookie's'' rather than "Cookie'', but in Korea, it is generally expressed as "Cookie'', and you can see "Cookie'' written on signs.
I think this song is some kind of fan song
There will almost always be hate regarding hybe groups especially the newer ones. Sad that this is happening but not surprised seeing how very successful the company is right now. Rumors be goin crazy even though the manager already explained abt this. Anyways, stan NewJeans the future of Kpop alongside the other Hybe labels' artists.
Like seriously, ppl have problem with every group of hybe
Nailed it! Kpop fans hate hybe because well bts, and therefore will have a problem with every group under them.
@@CL-cn8wt I think some concerns are valid. They’re just worried about the sexualization of minors. How is that invalid to worry about?
@@CL-cn8wt Has everything to do with protecting children not bts. Like…seriously? not everything is abt kpop
@@wiztiny9910 almost all idols groups debut underage idols, not only idols but teens have been working in the industry for decades with the approval of their parents of course. But suddenly kpopies now have an issue about only related to newjeans. And if it not just related to newjeans then they should speak up about every group too
You right about it being an old school vibe. That's why I'm digging their songs so much, it's probably why they seem to have such a older fan base.
NewJeans are bringing something new to the industry and it’s refreshing tbh. I really like them n their music
Aside from them being so young, the vocals and sound reminds me so much of the 90's R and B flow. Easy listening on the ears as well.
I heard someone saying that that cookie is not a metafor for the women’s parts but for records, and that the concept of the song is like, you’ll be so addicted to the records we put out and stuff and that it also represented like the gift at the end of the album, like the desert they were giving us to complete the album, and since I heard it I just think the song is 10 times better
I clicked so fast! I’m glad you enjoyed New Jeans like me! Thank you for your honesty with this reaction. I personally don’t believe you even need to make a disclaimer; you are a reactor that can react to anything you want to react to. People like me enjoy your honest reactions, controversial or not. Keep doing you! ❤️
I could be wrong but I feel like they're the sharpest dancers I've seen from a female kpop group in a while. I also feel like they're choreo is a little more complex and intricate than other groups out right now. Super solid dancing from them. I was pretty impressed.
You are right. They are the best dancers as a team right now.
I love Newjeans, their debut songs are all amazing. No skip. I love their song Cookie. I didn’t think anything of it until people started freaking out. Makes me wonder if they all thought about the fact that some of the members didn’t even know this about the word’s doubling meaning and now they do cuz of these people freaking out.. it’s a great song. I love all of their choreographies too! I adore them and I hope they go far as long as they want to!!!
I’m “freaking out” because people are making excuses for adults literally making children sing a song like that KNOWING they don’t understand what they are saying. That makes it exploitation of minors.
My bias is Danielle, I love the way she is cute, kind and charismatic but at the same time she awakens that dominance confidence, her smile is like sunshine
Tanya Tucker, an American country & western star, sang Delta Dawn in 1972 as her debut. She was only 13 and an American super star. Have a listen to that song someday..LOL Too me, Cookie is just cute even with the innuendos.
The next BIG THING! Constantly top of the charts! To date, they have 5 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆show wins already, highest gross sales of album on 1st day of release.
The intended way to interpret "cookie" in the Korean context is CD , like a music CD. The best way i can relate it is they dropped a mixtape and once you listen, you'll be wanting more. That's why the CD and cookie transition back and forth.
and they are already in the credits of their debut songs...at least 3 members...
NewJeans got such 'too young to debut' labeled because of the producer Min Heejin's past controversy but people ignore the fact IVE members are also debut in very young age, Leeseo the maknae is 2007-er and they debuted in 2021 means same age with Hyein (NewJeans maknae) as 2008-er when debuted in 2022. Also there are some boygroups for example Enhypen which debuted in 2020, the maknae Ni-ki is 2005-er & the only one legal age member was Heeseung at that time. I just feel sorry why NewJeans girls got many hate, criticism, and labeled but for other groups got double standard for that.
because it's a gg....knetz and kpoppies are more harsher and cruel to female idols esp younger ones :/
@@just_a_saeu88 knetz love them tho, u can see from their yt comment all korean comment its full of korean praising them & and they keep on trending positively in several k-comunity, only minority left negative comment. Its only kpoopies who makes such a fuss from making fun of their ages an so on jeez, more negative comments come from kpoopiez
@@just_a_saeu88 not knetz, they adore newjeans. just kpoppies online that's just against newjeans... mostly are also fans of groups that's the same age liners as newjeans too
i think its mostly their lyrics that make their age so controversial
@@eaf3215 wrong. the lyrics is fine & korean people + k-idols loves them, accepted them as cute concept since the start. those rumor & speculations only came from ‘non-korean speaker kpop fans’ which is no way for you to believe that instantly😵💫
i discovered them with OMG and went backwards. lol. im a big fan!!!!
New Jeans just gives out a 2NE1 and BlackPink power...... I watch all kpop groups and New Jeans just pops all the 4thGEN groups!!
They are giving me S.E.S and 1st gen gg vibes for sure
Ni-ki from Enhypen danced Hype Boy with them and in a v-live. They girls talked about how great he is and that they really practiced hard so they would look good dancing next to him.
Sunoo also did Attention with them and they said they had a lot of fun and of course his facial expressions were amazing.
I am just so happy to see all the HYBE artist interactions! They even have been recycling their outfits between the groups which is cool. NewJeans and ENHYPEN are both killing it! Amazing vocals, dancing, and visuals! (All the members are so TALL too!) 🇺🇸🥰🔀💜👖
i loooove New Jeans....for a new and young kpop girl group to dive into a 90's R&B style with modern pop vibe, it's definitely a breathe of fresh air to the current music style that is currently out right now
Honestly I really like them! They are super talented and I love their 90s type of vibe. So far they are turning out to be my fave 4th gen girl group.
Despite the controversy. I just love them for their songs and their choreography. I think they sound different from typical kpop songs. Even though they only have four songs I love all of them.
You should watch every single Hype Boy MV tbh. They’re such great introductions to each member.
everytime haerin sings she goes “their vocals!!!” 😌
Just found your channel and I really loved your knowledgeable and mature take.
As for the double meanings, back in the 70s and 80s there were many songs like boogie-fever, blame-it-on-the -boogie, boogie-wonderland, jungle-boogie which could be interpreted in a sexual way, if your mind thought that way.
Newjeans is what drew me into Kpop - they are a game-changer and if you watch the interviews with their CEO and producer, a brilliant woman named Min Hee-Jin, you will see how much she cares for them and includes their families.
I really love the style of choreography and enjoy their sound as well.
Yay this lovely, kind and genuinely talented girls. Thank u for reacting to them. Their music is really a breath of fresh air, very youthful and nostalgic. I was quite unsure of their music at first but I just find myself replaying 'Hype Boy' and the other tracks HAHAHA. Their music are topping charts recently and they've been applauded by many seniors which is a very great achievement for them.
I'm sad that you have to put in a long disclaimer because people overreact and take things out of context all the time.
Happy that you're reacting still, I've been looking forward to this reaction so I could hear your opinions on the dancing style of NJ. Keep doing what you're doing, we love your reactions!
This group debut is such a polished product==from the music to the lyrics, from the choreography to the MVs, down to the styling, they alll come together nicely, artistically speaking==that I'm inclined to think that the controversy/discussion around the appropriateness of the lyrics of "Cookie" is intentional/orchestrated. HYBE know what they are doing.
not gonna lie, my favourite song both in terms of music and choreography is cookie. i think the company knows what it's doing, and we as the audience will have differing opinions on it, I believe it's valid to be concerned, but I will give those responsible for the concept and writing of cookies the benefit of the doubt and enjoy as a song about their addictive, playful, sensual and sweet discography - it certainly is one of, if not THE most alluring song from new jeans so far. and i hope that while people put pressure on companies and certain key persons involved whenever needed, we can continue to enjoy new jeans' music and support the girls.
Don't call your "sup y'all" bs, like it's ICONIC! Love your reactions ♥ respect!
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Like you I'm an OG Kpop stan since the late 90's. New Jeans reminds me a lot of Baby Vox. Particularly the vibe and styling of Hype Boy. Definitely a pleasant throwback to 90's R and B.
Ador, the company NewJeans is under, released an official statement explaining their intentions and thought process while writing the songs. The song is for the fans and in Korea "baking cookie" has the same meaning as "burning CD". In the mv we can see a cookie roll in the begining while we see a CD rolling at the end. I hope people can stop hating Ador and NewJeans since it has been adressed and explained.
Nobody's hating on New Jeans. I don't even have issues with double entendres. Just not on minors.
@@sotroof That’s the point. There is no double entendre for Cookie. There was never meant to be, and it was only brought up because of the reactions of people who believed it to be so (like yourself, no shade). You have to remember the song was translated into Korean, for Korean’s, first and foremost. I’m 100% the general Korean public would be bashing Hybe and ADOR if the song was a double entendre on their first listen. Instead the only Korean’s who are trying to bash Hybe and ADOR are the ones who claim to have “heard about,” another meaning of ‘Cookie’ from foreigners.
@@sotroof everybody is hating on NewJeans because there at least 17 GROUPS active right now that debuted minors including Classy where the youngest member is 13, Leeseo with IVE and Wonyoung with Iz*one and IVE, and not too long ago JYP debuted a boy group with the youngest member 13 years old (Boy Story). Like it's so comical that people only seem to remember the age question when it comes to NewJeans and not ITZY for example, it's weird and transparently insincere.
@@basiicmax That's the literal meaning of double entrende right?
@@jae8697 Cant speak for others but I'm don't have anything against new jeans and minors in the industry is a whole different topic.
Incredibly happy you reacted to them, they took me completely by surprise. Definitely going to follow them for a long time.
I'm a fan of the older gen kpop and I'm glad I was able to discover Newjeans' "Attention" I was immediately hooked because of the the old school vibe it had. I didn't expect much because I didn't really know anything about them or which record label they're under but I listened to their album and I loved all of the songs which is such a rare occurance for me😭 I lost interest in Kpop when 4th gen groups started rolling around but Newjeans saved this gen for me.
In korea, a lot of CD-player generation already knew what the lyrics meant. Baking is 굽다 in Korean. We can use this verb to bake a cookie, but during the cd generation we also used to “bake” CD with music so that we can carry around and listen on our cd player.
I can say it is a little similar how we used to say “burn” a CD which obviously doesn’t mean actually setting it on fire.
In the music video a huge cookie first appears in the background. And in the end of the video a huge CD appears in a similar manner. There are several other graphics throughout the video with CD and cookies.
I guess the post-production team tried to convey the message they best could.
Anyways according to their agency’s explanation this song it about NewJeans’ many more songs to come that they wish to share to the listeners and fans.
Again, the lyrics could have had other hidden innuendos but as a CD generation myself i thought the cookie idea was very cute 😊
Yayyyy you reacted to NewJeans 😊👍❤️ so happy you liked them .. regardless of the negativity they are so talented.
Thank you! Appreciate you reacting to it. ❤️
I'm glad u talked about how talented the girls are and how nice their vocals are, few reactors talk about talent tho, all the members have really good vocals, but my favs are haerin and danielle, their vocals are just on another level ❤
They remember me of TXT and Le Sserafim in the way their music is very fresh and unic to their group 💗
newjeans 💜💜💜💜💜💜
people just hate on good things just because they are successful. New jeans is such a good group like bops after bops and already so successful. I'm glad you reacted to them. Also I'm not gonna talk about the "concerns/controversies" since many have already cleared up about it ❤️
Despite all the Min Hee Jin Scandal, i cannot deny how she is a great creative director. She has been working in SM for years and responsible for the Aesthetic Album feel that SM used to release. She gave birth with fx Pink Tape, Red Light and 4 Walls and RedVelvet's Ice Cream Cake, The Red and The Perfect Velvet. all of these albums has a Nostalgic feel. I am not feeling a Hybe group but an SM group. If fx and RV had a daughter, NJ would be it.
Thanks for still checking them out Thina. I really like all their tracks and the refreshing style. I think “Cookie” if interpreted as ADOR stated; it is a fine song. I missed the innuendo first listen as I was enjoying the music. It can be interpreted to be a bit suspect if we use the western slang for sure
its funny how people stopped you from reacting to them. They are actually loved by the Korean general public, it has been charting high for days now. People who stopped you from reacting probably have their favs listening to their songs.
The issue is pretty much an allegation. The label addressed the lyrics stating that it really is an innocent song. The Korean public do not have an issue with it actually. They are from Hybe and people just want to taint them down.
You really are just saying lies at this point like the writers are native English speakers, they know what they wrote, in fact, they wrote it two years ago so just how gullible are you to be believing their half assed pr statement
Oh please you are just playing dumb. The song was written by ppl who speak english and are men. Either way debuting a middle schooler itself is already wrong
the lyrics for cookie are suggestive hybe can say it is innocent but at the end of the day the lyrics are fairly clear and the music video doesn't depict innocent fun like what the song is allegedly about
@@bhav2671 what do you mean? In the video they are literally dancing and there are cookies and a CD to represent the songs meaning.
I agree that I am sure the original version of the song was meant to be suggestive. But they changed the lyrics to fit Korean standards about "baking" someone a CD.
A good example of why this is not that big of a deal is kidz bop. Kidz bop takes pop songs (even suggestive ones) and rewrites them and has them performed by kids for kids.
They have told us the meaning of the songs and Koreans agree that it is not suggestive in korean. So if you still associate that with hybe or ador or the girls then that's a you problem
@@bhav2671 it’s not suggestive. You as a viewer took it out of context and interpreted it how you wanted. The only people who had an issue with the lyrics were English speakers. Ironic isn’t it
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Thanks for the reaction! Imo the drama and controversy are being bloated out of proportion a bit. The protection of minors is certainly a topic worth being discussed any day of the week. However given the officially explained cultural and semantic nuance at play, going into permanent cancel mode seems a bit knee-jerk. This has likely given the industry a reminder about being more considerate in such matters going forward, which could be considered a plus. I just hope the girls and their careers aren't impacted by this in too much of a negative way.
Their songs slap, their choreography is fire and they are talented af. I for one stan and am looking forward to their first comeback.
I love NewJeans. Not very many people reacted to Hurt and it was my favorite of the first album. I wish the people who innocently only knew of a cd being called a cookie could retain their innocence. The choreo in Cookie is great, but the song has become a throwaway.
this outrage over their ages is ridiculous considering newjeans’ ages at debut are the same ages as ive and itzy when they debuted too 😂 it’s all just so hypocritical tbh. not to mention most the controversies surrounding them were heavily embellished and overblown by kpop stans. everyone loved newjeans when they came out with attention and hypeboy in july 22 but then a little over a week later once their preorder numbers came out… the switch up was INSANE 🥴 now they’re charting really well (3 songs in top 10 of melon and 100+ RAKS with attention) and korea seems to really love them so the newjeans hate seems to be here to stay. really goes to show that kpop stans only love something until they become successful and their own faves are threatened
thisss 💯🤣
Not to mention New jeans actually fit their concept unlike others who did floor dance, girl crush thingy and questionable stuff....
@@katarinachelsea7392 Getting tired of every girl crush concept nowadays
twitter gg stans are just mad at their success, they basically eclipsed almost all girl groups in korea with only a debut, and they're from hybe so the hate was going to be there regardless of their age, anyways the girls are all extremely musically talented and super cheerful and positive, and ADOR is a really great sub label that knows how to manage them (for example, they didn't send them to non-music shows so that's already a great sign) looking forward to their comeback, I just know they'll do really well
their debut is why they went through the controversies. It was viewed as inappropriate
best NJ reaction yet
Groovy, old school, smooth, BoA. Those were the exact thoughts I had with this group.
I LOVE their Choreography and vocals, and I can't get over their moves in Hype Boy and Cookie. I definitely feel bad, especially with the lyrics in Cookie but I definitely hope for their success because these girls have talent. Great moves! Great reaction as well!
Some people seem to forget or not realize that most kpop idols start their careers at a very young age. Most idols that debuted at 17+ years of age trained for years prior to their debut. It's not unheard of, or even rare, that some idols start officially training at a company at age 10 to 12. Some start even earlier. Then we can get into how training is just as demanding and stressful as performing, if not more so.
And this doesn't take into account the training they get at vocal and dance academies before they even audition for a company. Very rarely is anyone chosen by a company for idol training "off the street", with no prior dance and or vocal training.
So, if you honestly and seriously have a problem with minors being kpop idols you really need to just give up on kpop in general because the vast majority of them start at a very young age.
With that being said, naturally age needs to be taken into account when we're talking about younger idols. They do require some 'special handling' from the companies, mostly in the form of keeping things age appropriate, ensuring that they don't neglect their education and so on.
As for the whole Cookie controversy, I think it's ridiculous. Another thing people seem to forget, or just don't understand, is the primary market for kpop, aka Korean pop, is Korea. As a result, people need to look at things from a Korean point of view. Yes, gaining popularity in the west is huge benefit, but the vast majority of kpop groups will cater, first and foremost, to their Korean audience. That's where the real money comes from.
This entire scandal, which is based solely on a western (mostly US) interpretation of the lyrics is, as I said above, just ridiculous. And that's all I'm going to say about that.
this girls with not so over cuteness no so over make up not so over their hair style simply natural thats y without any teaser they appeared and loved by nationally and internationnally and by many senior idols first group with bo hate except some people who dont want hybe to suprass more thats not our problem 🤪😂
Their live vocals !!🤯🤯🤯
THANK YOU SIR, YOU ARE FANTASTIC!!
Attention is my fav choreo from them
So glad you get to finally react to them! 🥰 I love them so much. So talented at such a young age. My fav is Hurt & Hype boy. Attention is definately that song to catch your 'attention'. Its a great debut song 💖 Cookie is a fun and hip song. It can be a metaphor for burn disc 23:13 Also, its a fan song ✨
my fav debut album
I’m 18 and I’m such a fan. They just feel so fresh and their marketing is brilliant.
I like how you said their sound is dreamy. I agree! I felt the same way with Love Dive and I love that type of sound.
Unfortunately, the reality of minors in the K-pop industry is a bitter pill to swallow, although it’s been happening since the beginning of the genre. Especially since they keep debuting younger and younger. It definitely makes it harder to support their work.
They are all talented! And very refreshing concept compared to the other groups debuting these days. Love it! And love your reaction I kinda got the same groove as you are while reacting!
I HAVE WAITED FOR THIS FOR SO LONGGG-- finally 🤺🤺
I totally agree on your disclaimer. People have been on both sides here. For example, Garam, we just have to wait for it all to clear fully, instead of pouncing on assumptions. Some people also say about age. I get it, I too am born the same year as Haerin. But, it was only a 1 year age difference of debut if you compare the maknae of NwJns and Jungkook. JK debuted at 15, and so did Tzuyu if I am not wrong, so I know it’s kind of young, but the I’ve is also very young. So with that. We just honestly need to suck it up since we can’t control the agency. They are young, but they freaking slay! 100+ calls from companies asking them to advertise their products, variety shows talking about them, even though they haven’t even went to one. Our favs talking about them. Placed 12th on Billboard World Albums of the week October 15 2022, which btw, “The Album” BP was 13th place. Their success is no joke, their potential is also no joke. Other than that, a very rounded group at that, despite the age. The “scandal” too, I mean, she isn’t in trouble, just speculations, and speculations aren’t the truth so we just wait for that honesty. Also, the company has stated with the “Cookie” incident where it was just a cultural misunderstanding of the meaning. You can search it up
I would say their concept is 90's/2000's nostalgia but packed and presented for GenZ, and I LOVE it! I cant wait to see how they change the game :)
I think you got the right word,dreamy song ,very groovy .I just hope that these young girls they are basically still kids won't get eaten by the industry and all the media attention.Hope also people will be very understanding towards them and won't lash their hate comments.
Although, yes, cookie has a cute meaning if it's in korean-the translated lyrics are just not it. Nonetheless, i love their sound so much and i hope they continue on doing it.
Agreed, I'm actually mad that I just can't bop to Cookie bc of the lyrics, bc musically and vocally, it's an amazing song.
@@ingusch3783 bruh this is a double meaning song don't judge, korean lyrics are okay however English lyrics are not muchit
LMAO excuses the song was not written by a korean and you know it.
@@janana4462 exactly, they tried to play it out as if they were talking about CDs. Then that we americans are dirty minded and the song in Korean is different but the song was not written by a Korean. The woman that wrote it is known for songs with double meanings.
the lyrics as originally written in english are really bad but apparently the korean lyrics, the ones the group actually sings, are not sexual and the korean gp has had no problem with it. So I don't have that much of a problem with it as i would if the actual korean lyrics were super sexual too
Thank you for reacting. They are my absolute favorite 😍💕
The reaction is so precise!!!
Hybe recently released a statement that slapped back hard on the critics regarding the controversy. Those critics that stirred up controversy for views are harming the members, not protecting them. The members even made a video to explain what the "Cookie" lyrics meant for them. Instead of accepting the members and company's legitimate explanation, we have haters that keep insisting on the innuendos, pushing false narratives, and putting dirty words in their mouths are disgusting. "Attention," "Hype Boy," and "Cookie" ranked number 1, 2, and 10 respectively in the recent music chart. So obviously, the Korean public does not have a problem with them. Yet some Western audience insists that the world must know of American slang. Heck, I live in the US and I didn't even know there was a slang meaning for cookies. The members display tremendous talents already and I will root for their success.
Yes yes, only those people so called themselves trying to protect but make themselves the one who doesn't know anything. Especially with english-american slang speaker who always sexualize every words possible
how are fan harming them by alleging that they’re being exploited?
Normalizing sexualizing of minors harms not just the members but future kpop debuts. This is not about the usual kpop fan wars and antis.
Attention and Hype Boy are pretty harmless, but acting like Cookie isn't one big innuendo is being willfully naive
I think most people wouldn't even notice Cookie's lyrics if it weren't for their producer. I believe the problem started to become apparent when Min Hee Jin's issue exploded. if you take that + Cookie's lyrics + adult man who are attending their fanmeeting (mind you Kpop fanmeeting are designed for fans to "satisfy" their fantasies about the idols including fantasies of dating them). it does not look good. I believe making noise about this would prompt Ador to be more vigilant and careful about this matter.
their live vocal is so good u should check it out they are very talented girls actually
¹) pretty sure the rumors were inflated so much cuz they are from hybe. As expected.
Every new group from hybe is bashed for random reasons
²) people just believe anything without looking for definitive proof.
³) why is everyone behaving as if the entire kpop industry doesn't debut minors. You all are behaving as if it has never happened before.
Ikr frr
There are still so many people having problems with the lyrics of Cookie, even after the long and logical explanation by Hybe. If you are unable to comprehend that some countries don’t have the same nuances and slang as English (because it’s different language and culture, duh), you’re just one of those “the world revolves around my country” people.
I am not from an English speaking country, English is my 3rd language. I’ve been studying it since I was 4 yo. Later in high school I started doing English tutoring for middle school kids, recently I have even gained a TEFL (level 5) certificate, so I can teach English oberseas. I have lived in England for 8 months. I consume my media mostly in English. And still I HAD NO IDEA THE LYRICS COULD BE INTERPRETED AS SUGGESTIVE!!!
“You just need to learn more, I guess” could be somewhat a legitimate response to me…… if the lyrics were all in English. Like, seriously, the lyrics are mostly in Korean, but English speakers have problems with them because of a nuance meening of the word “cookie” in ENGLISH, NOT THE LANGUAGE THE SONG IS EVEN WRITTEN IN?!
Get out of here. The only people having problem with the song os that type of western audience, showing that the lyrics are perfectly normal in Korea. There is no sexual undertone / nuance to it.
It’s like Karaoke for example - for English speakers it’s just that, a room where you sing. For others it can be taken in a suggestive / sexual manner, because karaokes are often used by prostitutes in Japan and Korea.
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I totally understand to be torn on them. I never listened to R'n'B and I love those songs, but I don't want to buy their album because thexy are so young. Like, there are a lot of good reasons, but personally I would feel weird to have an album in my shelf with pictures of 14 year olds..that's half my age. D:
Also, while Cookie is my favourite music wise, the lyrics really can be read suggestive in an uncomfortable way. :/
Such a young guns, hybrid and vibes.
I'm obsessed with this debut!! Its so good!!!!
Nice reaction thina, and, if you havent read yet, ADOR released statement about cookie's lyrics. Apparently they didnt know that cookie is sexual in western countries and they made a survey just to confirm that. But normal koreans find cookie's lyrics cute and childish
Cookie is my favorite
To be honest before knowing anything about the group I genuinely thought it's a group of a bunch of 10year olds by some people's reaction or may I say overreaction. But it turns out only one of the member is super young, the rest of them are at an age where hundreds of idols debuts at
Tbh the meaning behind Cookie's lyrics depends on how listeners interpret them, one can think that its inappropriate and one could just simply interpret them literally like they're just decribing the literal cookie that they made.
And for me, I just like how refreshing it is. All of their songs actually
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Depends on if youre interpretin from western view or korean view
Their EP is no skip
NEW JEANS ♥️♥️♥️🤗🤗🤗🥰🥰
People are very hypocritical, they say a lot of things that are taken out of context and accuse people without any proof.
It’s not worthy to listen to others without you checking out things by yourself and form your own opinion
I love your reactions!! I don’t know how people could hate on you; you are so sweet! Your comments are always so good too- you point out a lot of things so miss. I hope you are happy, healthy, and blessed!
I feel like people always debuted young, but its just the fact who manages them, and how the whole cookie song somehow got passed through tons of people despite their ages
I just feel bad for them, they’re so young and so talented, and the issue people have isn’t actually with them, it’s with their management.
This group is not overly sexualizing themselves as they are literally kids. Their dance performances are clean enough that they can dance in front of their parents without being shy about it because them girls should act n behave like their age.
Bring cute without being sexual is the message here.
Yes, they’re like young girls who are just enjoying their lives! They are like high school students you can see everywhere
Cookie is a sexual song tbh. That song alone isn't appropriate for children to be singing. It's still a great song but they should have waited a few years for them to sing it
@@totally_a_spy it is Cookie not poocie
@@liarliar1408 Nicki Minaj also made a song called anaconda, doesn't mean it literally talks about an anaconda...
@@davidkonevky7372 💀💀
Awwwwready.. thanks for reacting to New Jeans!
The way her eyes went wide during the attention chorus and choreography 🤣
ador has posted their response on the cookie lyrics ”issue” and the ceo responded on the controversies about her. with regards to their age, debuting minors is not new to kpop but somehow, maybe because nwjns is under hybe and everyone’s just hopping on the hybe slander, it has become a big issue. whatever anyone says, they’re releasing very good songs and have really great potential. they’re doing great in the charts in korea and internationally too. no one can deny that they’re a great group.
The only thing their press release said was everyone's wrong and they're right.
@@sotroof did you even read it actually? they explain the creative process and break down what they intended with their original vision but they also apologize for the misunderstanding: "We see now that our intention behind the song was interpreted differently from our expectations and most importantly we apologize for everyone who has felt uncomfortable and concerned as a result."
tho ofc y'all will just pick and choose what to believe so long as it fit your narrative, which ador ALSO acknowledged: "It’s possible that this long explanation would have no sway over people who have already made up their minds about the issue."
but most importantly, and the one thing that flew over your heads, is that they also promised to do better: "Everyone at ADOR will do their best going forward to prevent any further misunderstanding."
"Everything we have presented to you so far has come from a place of deep sincerity. No one’s perfect, but ADOR’s goal is to be friendly, open, and straightforward with our fans, and we’re actively working toward that end."
@@capucines3352 Yes. It would be better for them to just proclaim that they didn't know it would be intepreted this way and that they would be more cautious in the future but they give this longwinded bs about consulting professors (really?) and taffy the f**ing dog.
@@sotroof I think It is a good way to explain :) and it is relevant to their point.