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There is a major problem when you do a search on Google for "Best Office Chairs" right now. You'll find well known sites showing their best picks for 2022. But when you look at their list it's clear they've never used the chairs in their list or don't know what a good chair is. We decided to show you an example of this on CNET. We want to know if you think this is a problem or not? Let us know in the comments.
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More of these kinds of videos. It feels like the Review-space has been diluted by affiliation links and every video needs to hype up a product no matter if its good or bad.
On it! Thanks for the feedback -GK
Sites need to stick to what they do best. CNet shouldn't review chairs or kitchen equipment. Forbes shouldn't review video games. The list goes on and on. Also, never use affiliate links unless it's a channel or site you actually want to support.
Also, if you're looking for a chair or desk, find a reviewer with a similar body type. That's one thing I'd like to see a bit more from BTOD reviews. Not everyone is 6'4". I think the owner is 5'8" or 5'9". They have very few videos with any women and no bigger folks.
I had briefly considered the Herman-Miller Lino when I was shopping for chairs, and I appreciated BTOD's unboxing/first impressions for that chair justly for the reason that they'd had a bunch of people of different heights and body types try it out.
Agreed. While I love these videos, most of them are not all too helpful. I'm a big guy and weight around 340 lbs... a tall lanky guy saying that a chair does not fit him and is not comfy, means nothing to me. My wife is 5 feet even and skinny as a pole... for example.
That's why I appreciate Robert sitting in all those chairs in many videos. I'm 6'4" and if Robert says a chair is too small for him It will be too small for me as well.
How curious that the 'best' office chair also happens to be a very cheap one that lots of people could just click and buy!
hmmmmmm -GK
Well said - bravo for calling out what it is. Here’s part of my due diligence when shopping for a “best of” … if the web site with the ‘top 5 etc’ list doesn’t actually focus/specialise in whatever I’m shopping for, I don’t even look at it. When you couple no expertise with money generation, I think its fair to call that a scam. 👏
Going through the return process right now with an XChair...you guys are speaking the truth! Now I have to watch your videos and use your links
Yes yes yes, I can't tell you how much I've wanted to see you two take apart that cnet article
It was bad for sure! -GK
I agree with you and I saw this trend as well. You can completly ignore this generic lists. Same for the video "top 10" videos which are spoken in with a computer voice and super generic. Great that you picked the topic up, very important to be informed!
I was recently in the market for an office chair because my Vertagear Triigger 350 broke. I was looking for lists via Google because I knew about the Aeron and Embody, but not much else. So many lists would include a gaming chair. I would roll my eyes and look for another list. Thankfully I came across this TH-cam channel and landed on a refurbished Leap.
Tell us more about your Vertagear Trigger. Not under warranty? Did you like it? -GK
@@btodtv I actually loved it! I was able to get it on sale for $520 Black Friday 2018. A few months ago, adjusting my position in the chair, I pushed myself too hard against the back and heard something pop. The back no longer stayed up. For maybe a month or so, I was able to keep it upright while locked, but eventually it leaned too far back to sit comfortably. I think it may have still had warranty left, but I didn't bother checking to see if the problem was covered. I was already entertaining the idea of replacing the chair anyway.
went through the exact same thing. still trying to find the right chair bc all the ones btod recommend that i want aren't available in australia 😢
what chair would you recommend if i'm prone to upper back(old trapezius injury)/neck pain? I'm looking at Leap V2 and Aeron remastered w/ Atlas. The headrest should be neutral or angled back. Airline seats usually make me nauseous because of the forward tilt.
Purchasing the chairs yourself and making videos- that’s what I call a review. Thanks btod
Thanks for these vids! I've been looking around for a new chair (been using cheap amazon chairs for years) and this channel has great, critical reviews. You don't find that in many places.
I'm wondering if you would consider doing a tier list for chairs for tall people? I've seen your video on big&tall chairs, but one of the hardest things for me is finding chairs that can deal with me being 2m (over 6'6). I know about the Aeron C, and people say the secretlab Titan XL is good, but it feels like there's not a whole lot out there for us tall folks aside from that.
You’re welcome! We need to find someone 6’6” or taller. Currently we are maxed out in the office around 6’2” or 6’3”. I find it hard to believe the titan is actually a good option, unless you like sitting on a super firm seat and rigid frame-GK
@@btodtv Thanks for the reply! Yeah I could imagine that it would be hard to find one of us. There's a reason there's not a lot of stuff on the market that fits the largest people haha!
I had suspected you would be skeptical of the Titan. I'll probably end up going for a used Aeron C or Embody.
Be careful with the Embody, we've found the upper portion of the back wants to force your shoulders forward if too tall. Great chair otherwise! -GK
I know this chair is pretty controversial, but have you tried the Cosm? It's got a nice high back and the recline motion is right up there with the Aeron. If you're not too fussed about adjustments, it might be the chair for you.
@@StardustLegacyFighter Hadn't considered it. But thanks for the great suggestions!
I'd definitely like more videos on these terrible lists. Back in 2020, when I didn't have the budget for the likes of Herman-Miller, I was trying to look into office chairs at a $150-300 price point that were ergonomically designed and would last reasonably, but lists like these plus the ones that recommended "gamer" chairs made it hard to separate wheat from chaff. Sometimes you find an obscure little product that's remarkable bang-for-buck, and I was hoping there's be a few of those in the chair space, but most of these lists smelled extremely fishy.
(I just ordered myself a Herman-Miller chair, so thankfully this isn't a problem for me anymore-my choice of model was partly informed by some of your other videos, so thank y'all!)
I've owned that serta chair for a few years and it is showing it a bit of wear and tear now. I never did like the slouch too much because it feels like it wants to cradle you constantly, so a little annoying. However I got it on sale for around 200$ at a office depot.
I am not sure what X-chair you actually tested in your video, but I recently purchased an X3 and it does not have that forward tilt that you are showing. Also, the mechanism under the chair is significantly more stout than the one in the video. It looks like you have a bottom-of-the-line one. I am 6ft, and 210lbs, and the X3 fits me fine. I tried an Aeron chair because it was the one that is all hyped up, but I hated it. I also tried another chair in the same store (forgot the name), which was $800. I hated that one too. The X-chair was a magnitude above that one. Each person has their preference for chairs and what feels good, just like shoes.
You should definitely continue doing videos on the scam office chair lists. Those ones you showed are egregiously bad.
Thanks for the feedback. Appreciate it! -GK
@@btodtv Would definitely love to see you guys take apart Techradar's list. Whilst it's nowhere near as awful as CNET's one, they still have so many poor choices on their list.
Refreshing to see someone calling out CNET. They do this with a lot of their recommendation lists
I am 6'4" 380lbs. I need a good big office chair with ALOT of cushion! I am disabled and spend most of my time behind the computer and I just cant seem to find one. My price range is up to $800. Would like to stay around $500 or less. If you have any suggestions it would be GREATLY appreciated!!
This is a great idea for content. See A LOT of office chair lists online.
My buddy and I both bought the Serta Jennings and while it lasted me a lot longer than him, it's incredibly uncomfortable. I ended up selling it to another friend and he's still using it, but it is NOT for me. haha
I'd love to see more of these types of videos. It's so hard to get a decent review of anything. I see this a lot, pushing things like "gamer" chairs that are well over $500 that just look like crap. But I'm sure like you said a lot of these things getting pushed have a lucrative affiliate payout.
Yes, a lot of the gaming chair brands have lucrative affiliate programs! -GK
@@btodtv cough cough SecretCrap
CNET is equal to The Verge computer builders. they have zero clue what they are talking about. Never buy anything based off cnet reviews
Facts.
Does the seat pad bottom out on the serta?
Over time, chairs like this tend to bottom out. We didn't do any long term testing on it -GK
@@btodtv thank you, I was wondering because there has been places here that require you to sit all day at work buying serta chairs where I live
Serta chairs in the office environment. That is brutal! Thanks for sharing. Haven't seen you comment in a while, good to see you back :) -GK
I never trust those best lists for any product. I do read them to get names but I do a lot more research beyond them.
I read up the full CNET blog and it was written by a total clown. She seems to think Herman Miller chairs are overpriced, even though she didn't even mention the best part about their chairs.
Also, her best picks were absolutely terrible and easily the worst choices from the list of chairs she allegedly tested.
This applies to the majority of product searches these days, most are just pages of amazon links. "Best" for them $$$, not for you.
The issue is that Cnet and the other sites have a very specific target audience, average people with no other knowledge of the products that won't research into the wider market, it's really no different from going into your basic office supply store/aisle and getting whatever they sell, and this leads into how they can manipulate their lists to drive affiliate revenue as their audience won't know any better and won't seek better sources. It's not just bad journalism, it's also an issue with audience mentality, the audience starts and stops with the one article; and you can draw parallels between this and many other topics, it's like people who use Facebook as their news source and immediately believe whatever they see, whether or not how accurate the source was.
The x3's forward tilt is a bit interesting. For anything with a more forward posture, such as working over a desk, it makes sense; but it's not really marketed as such, there's not really a market for this currently, and there's not really a term to define this, as 'drafting chairs' are just office chairs on a stilt for standing desks, standing desk chairs are often just a tall stool, task chairs are just more basic office chairs, there's not a good unused term where the 'forward/leaning posture over a work surface' concept fits. At the same time, the forward tilt needs a lockout that still allows for backward tilt. As someone who has their desk space and work space within rolling distance, I could see how this could work, because the forward posture helps with reaching beyond where a keyboard or notepad would be where space is actually utilized on a work surface, I've also done hand drafting and various art stuff before on tilted desks and I can see how this forward tilt concept could also translate to that; my only big complaint with the concept is the leg portion of the posture, you'd need a forward tilt that pivots at the knees, not the center tilt most chairs utilize, but I also argue this with back tilt and reclining, your lower leg needs to stay in the same position throughout the range of tilt. It's a unique situation that doesn't have much of a market, seems like hell to actually market, and fits a very niche market, it could work if designed properly but would end up being an additional feature with an additional mechanism that would end up on an office chair due to market dynamics.
I have an Aeron with the forward seat tilt, it's surprisingly good for FPS gaming on my PC. I could also use it for work, whenever I need to lean forward to type code.
Every list I have seen from CNET, just to bully them (deservingly), has been garbage. 1 or maybe 3 of the products are decent, while the rest are either standard affairs straight down to Dont-Buy-This tier. This wouldn't be an issue if they didn't use phrases like "THE BEST OF ______ for 20__!"
Funnily enough though I noticed the advertisement algorithms and browser cookies noted I wanted the "best of [insert product here]" and it will usually show me something decent within a few minutes, so at least their meta-tags and titles are accidentally helping.
I bought a Serta chair similar to that. Absolute trash. The cushion was done all wrong, made my legs go numb. Had to return it. I have a steelcase leap now, steelcase is 10x better
That’s a heck of an upgrade :) -GK
Foward tilt chairs are great for older people or people who have trouble getting up from a sitting position. I don't think that position is meant for sitting in.
They definitely make forward tilt to be used while doing tasks like typing. I do not like how it feels though -GK
I see a lot of lists for office chairs for tall people (6’-2”+) call for the Oak Hallow Aloria. But I refuse to buy something that has not been reviewed by a credible source like you guys.
Please do video top 3 chairs for IT guys (12 hours day in chair) where budget is no use.
Aeron, Embody and Leap v2 are the top best chairs for IT guys.
Yes
Love what you guys are doing with this channel, but I'm not sure what these sites are doing would be what I consider scamming. It amounts to affiliate revenue and laziness. And, even if you want to filter out fake Amazon reviews, the vast majority of people looking for a chair are probably fine with a $100 Amazon chair and scoffing at ones that are above $300.
I'm still raging over the Fully monitor arm the ny times wirecutter site tricked me into buying. The base on it is so laughably tiny.
So you’re saying we should check out that list? -GK
@@btodtv This guy on youtube Greg Smalter did a review based on their recommendation th-cam.com/video/al7lHh9x4NI/w-d-xo.html
The Serta is a waste of money. The "leather" is peeling on the headrest (no hair products/hats/etc...) and my wife's does not have the same problem. Owned them less than 3 years. Now, I need a new chair, when the chair is still usable due to cheap materials. Do not buy!
Big and tall chairs please
I need to work on my height. I am failing y’all only being 6’ tall -GK
Thank you for exposing the bs.
goes for most top list of any kind of product
Got x chair, should’ve went with herman miller 😭
Smaller than it appeared in the photo
Of couse they are scam , the only best chair we all know is Herman miller Aeron
LOL -GK
At least for me it is. 😅
I think you need to bring a petite woman in to test together.
Taylor who was mentioned sat in the chairs. She is 5'2". 99.8% of our audience is Men though -GK
@@btodtv As a 5’4 woman who likes watching your videos and also understands that a TH-cam channel needs to appeal to its largest demographic, I feel like adding Taylor to more of your videos or doing more on chairs that are good for small builds might help your channel.
Remote and office workers aren’t 99.8% men and women need good ergonomic chairs too. Not a complaint, just food for thought as there are benefits to growing your channel demographic.
I don’t disagree. Having a more balanced approach is good for everyone, except the YT Algorithm. If the majority of our core audience doesn’t relate well to the content, we won’t get clicks and then it is unlikely to get promoted much. Then no one will see it.
We can certainly try to work Taylor into more content by showing her in more of the chairs in the future.
Thanks for supporting the channel!
-GK
For more clicks you could try to get another Taylor, uh Swift. 😍 …Need to calm down. Thanks for your reviews BTW. I have a Leap for my daily. Totally better than the Ergo for the same price.
Haha. If we could get T Swift, the YT Algo would probably generate some solid results :) -GK
Not everybody is 6 feet. Have one tall and one shorter person.
neat
The problem I've found with a lot of your reviews and your criticisms of other reviews is that you guys are all big and tall. Most of those chairs are extremely uncomfortable for someone who is 5'4" (on a good day) like me. Most of the headrests on the ergonomic chairs I've sat in fall on the back of my head or above it making them useless, the lumbar support never lines up properly making them uncomfortable and the seat is sometimes so wide and deep that it's a struggle to get in and out and then my arms don't rest well on the armrests making the entire $350+ chair an uncomfortable experience, not to mention that my feet can't reach the floor when I sit in them. The Amazon Basics chair in that regard isn't too small, it's perfect size for me. It may be cheap and it won't last long but it will be 100x more comfortable because it would fit me. Maybe you should get people of different heights and sizes to test the chairs because most of the human population is not 6'2"
I’m 5’9”. -RB
@@btodtv So is my brother and his favorite chair is my least favorite and he finds my favorite chair far too small for him
I like you guy's review but can you also have a shorter person review some chairs. Alot of the reviews I've seen from you are complaints based on height.
This is my main problem with all of their reviews. Most of the human population is nowhere near 6'2" so why is such a tall person making general comments. I can confidentially say that any chair he recommends will be extremely uncomfortable for someone a foot shorter than him who is also slimmer than him
finding a good office chair is impossible ive ordered and sent back 5 chairs ranging in price from $200 - $2000
Not for everyone, but some people do have a more sensitive body. I'm guessing you've already tried Herman Miller, Steelcase and Haworth chairs? Would be interested to know what other companies you've tried chairs from, as there might be some you've missed.
@OneFortyFour PITA but i havent had to pay ive made sure the return policy is good. amazon , wayfair , costco , staples etc. and its true just because its expensive doesnt mean it will fit you. ive learned that the hard way. what else ive learned is it seems chairs today are made for 5ft tall women or 7 ft tall men nothing in between.. im 6ft tall and a few chairs my feet wouldn't touch the ground in the lowest position.. i mean what the hell?
@@InnovativeBuildersmd Actually, I hear way more complaints about chairs not being small or big enough for people outside the average height range lol. What 5 chairs have you actually tried?
@OneFortyFour Depends on where you buy the chair from tbh, always best to check the returns policy.
Anything CNET recommends should automatically enter your s#!t list.
Serta chair is garbage. I' m sending it back.
This is a good review but I'd like to see more women testing the chairs. 50% of my team are women.
Lmao well done boys. All lists are just for clicks.
Thanks -GK
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this video is half review half conspiracy theory on the current state of youtubers