Teenage Engineering K.O. II EP-133: They Lost Dey Mind!!
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- Teenage Engineering just released low budget sampler called "EP-133"! It's a refresh to the Pocket Operator PO-33. Sampling is hot right now & they lost their minds!! At $299, I will make the argument Teenage Engineering been listening to the complaint of the community! What do you guys think?
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Cuckoo's video: th-cam.com/video/yeafE30nIC4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=EwMqOPcIrbs_PmQc
Andertons video: th-cam.com/video/rjW6_BuXN_4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=z4xaAL3CJC4zWLGg
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I went looking to see and they're in stock. No pre-order wait...!
I’m sold!
ima cop it asap
It looks really dope. My only issue is exporting from it. I know I would use it to start ideas and finish them in Ableton. After reading through the guide it doesn't seem like there is an easy way to export stems from it. For me it looks fun but isn't really anything I would have to have. If they add some stem exporting via usb and a connected software, i'd really consider getting one.
@@e-dub808😂finally right?
I saw the demo on TH-cam first thing this morning, then saw the price and bought one before my morning coffee. Looks so fun!
Grabbed one too 👍🏻
Me too
Same here
sameeee
purchased
Super happy for you bro watching the channel grow and the production value 🎉. Dope my guy dope to see. 💪🏾👊🏾
Man you are funny as hell and with knowledge to back it up. This product is just shockingly capable for the price. Giving Behringer, of all companies, a run for their money. Keep up the good vibes, just found this channel. Subscribed!
Behringer are gonna put out a copy just after Xmas for $200, except it won't have aftertouch.
TE shaking up the game with this 🤙🤙
It looks really fun. Sometimes the funness gets overpowered by too much to learn.
😂😂😂😂😂facts
Looking at you sp404mk2 and SmplTrek
@@christianthompson1473 Yeah Roland devices are not it for me. Soo much menu diving and manual diving whereas TE devices are easy to tinker with out of the box and I can just start making cool stuff. Still good to brush up on the manual but the muscle memory gets built pretty quickly
@@christianthompson1473 ⬆⬆ Top comment to my mind. Exactly! 😐
Got mine 2 hours ago. Finally a product from TE that has reasonable pricing
You can thank those that funded the Field Series. It’s how these things work.
@@bondi5000 thanks suckers!
Yea, thought for sure it was going to run about $2k
@@bondi5000 You can thank the europeans paying 80 dollars more for it.
@@pirateradioFPV 55
First time on your channel and i loved the honesty man haha so much truth, none of that hyping something up to more than it is, excited to watch your other stuff
I’ve always been an acoustic musician, production experience very minimal outside of literal 4 tracks and reel-to-reels, have recently been thinking about getting into sampling & synths & this seems like a great place to start while still being robust at a perfect starter price point. Appreciate the video!
Thanks for reviewing this. You always keep it real!
I came here for the title, stayed for the cool callout on the Mohammed Ali branding error, watched it ten times because I’m a stoner, and subscribed because you’re good at this.
Fire video Ave appreciate all the reviews/content for producers learning some new shit 🔥🙌🏽
I started getting into producing last year with the m8, NDS(korg), and later added laptop DAW and Roland S1. I enjoy sketching and composing in both dawless and hybrid setup. S1 let me record notes into m8 but no velocity. As a kid I always wanted an MPC but could never afford one. This checked all the boxes for me and I am looking forward to seeing what I can do with it.
Thanks for the video today!
P.S. I collect calculators 😅
I have M8 too and loving it so much! But this TE thing is crazy and think it will paired well with the M8 and my Cycles :o ! Just ordered one
I've already ordered one. For me that onboard mic is a huge win. The size and functionality looks good. I watched several videos and none bugged me. My first TE purchase.... will it replace any of the way too many samplers I own... maybe! Wish me luck, lol. Oh yeah... love the price! Shout-out to Cuckoo.... his tutorial was awesome.
Where did u order it from?
You can sample on they fly with that mic. Incredible
@@leewightman8619 I used cuckoo’s affiliate link. I think this video has a link to that tutorial.
I ordered direct from Teenage Engineering halfway through Cuckoo’s review - £249 ! -(I stayed away from all the merch ….That’s where they’ get you 😅 )
I appreciate the lack of BS on this channel. You don’t sugar coat it.
The only thing missing for me right now is a “resample”-function to capture your beats and use them as loops, your sounds with added fx’s like you do on the Sp404... but I ordered one anyways! Looks so fun!
And panning.
@@legendsflashbackit says Pan right above #3
you could possibly loop the output into the input with a cable. but it hasn't got enough memory for a resampling workflow anyway. I think it can stack effects... maybe.
@@joshualane1716 yet testers didn't get it to work yet like Cookuu etc
Thank you kindly m8 - this is my favorite review/reaction for the KO II 🙌
I actually sold my SP404 MK2 for this, haha. Watching people work it and create things in seconds vs. the hectic workflow of the SP404 made me realize that I value creating something rather than the power of the tool. The SP404 is a sampler behemoth, I love it, but just so annoying, clumsy, time consuming, and more. It was just becoming an effects rack, and sadly, I don't really need it THAT much for that. I can see myself actually creating a lot more with this than the SP due to it's workflow.
Roland definitely needs to release a new version focused on fixing the workflow
🤯
It can't pan
you're giving me ideas. I might as well sell my sp404 mk2. the only thing im worried about is the 64mb storage of KO2
@@vergellim7361 why you can't save on this device doesn't Roland have SD card
I can’t believe they didn’t charge 2k for it
They are giving back.
@@BillyBatsonMarvel Probably the materials are shitty. Won't surprise me if I see stuck keys or something like that.
My thought exactly!
Lol, yall are terrible
64. Mb the size of the largest media card you could buy for Sp 303 back in 2002.
Yeah that seems like the limitation. Maybe we can hack trick the firmware to pull data from the usb port.
Though, TE aren't known to take community requests for firmware updates and workarounds, and it would've only cost them a few dollars integrate an sd card interface.
Great video brother!
I like how you can quantize by holding a button down - so you can just do a section of a track.
I don't like that there are only 4 groups but maybe I don't understand the workflow.
I've never actually owned a TE product so I am curious - how do you export to a daw with these things?
Korg needs to learn a thing or two from this sampler release. Yes we’re looking at your new Kaoss Pad, Korg….
Korg dropped the ball hard. 😳
And somehow TE got this one hella right
I was super disappointed with that Kaoss Replay. They need to do a new Electribe
@@Gwyn94 if they do a new Electribe (we know they will) it needs to be ONE box, with both the sampler and the synth. If the Hacktribe has taught or shown us anything, it is that everything in one groovebox is not only possible but also the most efficient way to create and perform.
Looks like a very nice change of pace for T.E. - an affordable supercharged pocket operator. Can't see this really competing with other full blown samplers though - at the end of the day it's still a pocket operator workflow. The sonicware stuff is is more of a swiss-army knife with a ton of connectivity, gigabytes of storage, velocity sensitive pads, automation lanes, etc - but I can see them playing well together as part of a mobile setup for sure.
best vid on this sampler so far 😄 killin it Ave!
This popped up on my IG feed this AM. I was so bleary eyed that when I saw it was only $299 I just bought one and then read about it. What a gift for TE to offer this price point when their desk is $1.2k!! Cheers!!!
'How they have Muhammed Ali and not put a brother on it' I'm crying, the audacity of em
The price point alone is going to sell a lot of units, but right now Roland is looking at their $499 Sp 404 ii and saying "YOU STILL THE CHAMP!" Am I wrong?
@@justinreynolds6752 I think you are actually agreeing with him.
@@justinreynolds6752 More serious piece of gear? lol
@@lucid484 This has 64mb memory. 64 mb. BRUH that's 6 min and 22 sec of CD quality audio... in 2023!!! Y'all been played
@@jas_bataille I’ve been played?
Loved this review and your take on this unit. TE have really thrown a cat amongst the pidgeons with this one.
Nice bruv. Thanks for the heads-up. Damn I ordered one yesterday! 👍👍
i go an sp404mk2 and dont like it. i want portable sampler to am on thats simple to use. is this it? if not what would you recommend?
Wow, that was unexpected for such a low price. Batteries, a good display and USB was on my list for a PO-(1)33 follower, and they delivered just that. Excellent design. I think I'll wait for MPC Mini, and choose one after that.
Not gonna lie, they got me with the Muhammad Ali design! 🥊 Now I know what I want for Christmas 😂
Saw this yesterday morning. Will check this out!
I ordered mine a few weeks ago purely on the low price and the amount of fun this looks like play with!
AVE stop playing you you want one 😂 happy Thanksgiving to you and your family my guy 👊🏾
I just ordered it
@@AveMcree I knew it because I saw your eyes LIGHT UP! You ain't slick LMAO
lol@@forsale313
I ordered it. But the only thing that separates the other gear mentioned is that the FX can't be sequenced in like the old Pocket Operators or OP-Z let alone Smpltrek, Lo-fi 12 xt, sp404mkii, MPCs, ect that do offer this. I have a feeling with enough poking we may see an update that allows it. Who knows? 🤷🏾♂️ I can't wait for mine to come in. 😎
Nice video 🙌 to the point and very informative 👍
Welp, if it wasn't dead already, whatever that new thing Korg announced 2 weeks ago has NO SHOT! 😂
FINALLY as. P.O user for years and having wanting a larger form factor that's feature rich, this is on my Xmas list.
It is missing an SD card slot. Other than that I would want one. I’ll wait for the next upgrade
honestly i have an OP-1 and its the funnest shit to make beats on ever. Everything is one button press away. Literally no menu diving. The workflow insanely fun and FAST. Thats what they are known for. Im looking forward to picking this up. Im stoked how fair priced it is!!
I'm super hyped, my first sampler was the op-1 and i just couldn't get with it. Got an sp303 and i love it, bit since its so old the potentiometers are a pain to work with. I was looking for an sp404 and right when i opened my browser I see the God damn EP-133 haha
NGL, this is something I was looking for, for a loong time. Been looking around a lot. Looking at the MPC's, OP-1, the Polyend Tracker and also the Dirtywave M8. but I couldn't pull the trigger. Now THIS has my attention. The price is good too.
I may get this one as my first sampler
is it suitable for live sampling/looping for DJ improvisation performamce?
Your energy on this one made me hit buy!
64mb of memory and no sd slot??? Yikes
I’m so sold by this thing. Always wanted an OP-1 but couldn’t commit to the price with the features it offers. Copping this to break me out of my digital DAW comfort zone. Nice vid 👊
You didn’t miss out on anything as far as the OP-1 involved
Let me know if it can pan kick snare to left and sound to right with it's basic stereo output
6:23 the PPQ you quoted appears to refer to analogue pulse; not sequencer resolution. Though the couple youtube demos I have seen do suggest it can record off grid.
looks like you can have a lot of fun with this freestyling ideas
hi, not sure if it was mentioned but does this have 'motion sequence' recording knob movements etc :) cheers
Don’t think so but don’t quote me on it
Just the fader.
It looks great ✨
Woah I'm sold on that feedback FX lol
When is this device released for purchase?
It looks like a early 90’s answering machine
I already bought. Only thing missing is internally sampling and way to capture performance effects in sequence….y’all it come in an update?
Teenage engineering isn’t great about updating firmware. You’ve been warned
@@AveMcree for $300 I’m cool with it. There are workarounds obviously by just capturing performance in SP or DAW….That’s literally the only thing missing. I can live with that.
I would have loved to have this when i was younger. Thinking about getting my nephew one for Christmas he's been wanting to learn how to make beats.
A banger in every way. Unbelievable
I wonder why more people aren't comparing this to the 404 MK2. I wonder how they match up feature and workflow-wise considering the price point.
Cool - AF. I think I'm gonna buy today. Nice review.
Looking forward to the live stream you do with this one!😁
Me too!!😂
The price blew my mind. Wasn't the desk like 10 grand? That is crazy.💯✌🏼💜🤷🏽
Great video brother. Enjoyed your thoughts. Also bought one and ill let u know what its actually like.
Fair price point, but does it have voice stealing issues once effects are added? I think I'll stick with my X SE & M*
This man is the best! Love!
its a super portable battery powered, stereo sampler with mic, sequencer w/ parameter automation, pressure / velocity sensitive pads, sick performance fx and can run external gear thru the fx for 299? are you kidding me? instant buy. already pulled the trigger. cant. wait.
Pissed myself at the “god damn” after the merch. 😂
Looks like a good piece of gear.
If you want the Ali packaging, you should know that it's a limited edition and may only be available on current orders.
no SD card slot , what year is it again
I was legit waiting for you to do a video on this 👀
😂ikr
This is gonna hit hard ! 🔥😎
how much is gonna be the price for it?
This looks good🔥 Honestly I may buy one
You can't be a boxing fan, a brother, AND a sampler fan without me hitting like and subscribe. Ali may be a distant cousin of mine (There are Clays in my family tree from KY). Cheers and keep up the good work from FBK!
lol respect
You might hate it. But I love this retro tech design. I ve read the manual and watched the workflow on Cookoo. Bruh. It does CHORDS in keyboard mode. So yeah. Take that circuit and others.
It’s actually pretty smart and thought through.
I ordered to try the pads. Sold many samplers just because of the pads causing me physical pain.
Those look similar to computer key, which would be great for me
Where do I get one
Dang ngl being a Louisville Kentucky native and a brother I put my order in once i saw they had Muhammad Ali on the cover. They got me! 😂
def copping it to go with mpc one + going different
I'm intrigued by this, with the price of their OP-1 I'm confused by this. I know it's nothing like the OP-1, but all of their products except that pocket one cost a grip. So I have a really dumb question, like extremely dumb. I use MPC software right now, I had an MPC One but sold it to pay some bills. But the guy I sold it to didn't want the software so it's what I still use. I'm wanting to get back into using a machine of some sort though. Forgive my question as I obviously don't have a solid grasp on shit here. If I hook this up to a computer via USB, would I be able to sync the MIDI data from whatever I was working on to the MPC software? I know how MIDI in/out works but I don't have an audio interface right now and am trying to figure out if this + USB would be enough. Or if I'd need a MIDI interface too. I do plan to get one but my budget is limited now so I'm trying to just get what I need to make some beats.
I know shit like this works, but I've never had anything except a midi keyboard so I'm not sure how this sampler would tie in with the MPC software. I'd like to be able to load samples on it, and make some beats on the go. Then hook it back up to the computer and do any tweaking and finish in the software. If this is doable just using USB-C? I know another MPC One would be ideal. But I can't afford an MPC One, and this has batteries + portability. And it's an oddly sexy piece of kit.
Again, I apologize for my question, I can make some decent beats, but I don't really have a grasp on how things work unless it's like MPC+MPC software. Or a MIDI controller and Reason. I'm assuming this would work as a MIDI controller when hooked up with USB. But I'm not exactly sure what I can do with what I created on it when not connected to a PC when I hook it up. Something like something to play with for now would be awesome. I was gonna get an MPC Studio in a few weeks, but this is only $100 more and looks pretty damn sick. If any smart person here has any words for me here, thanks and stuff.
I knew I wanted this when I saw the first picture of it this morning. Then I saw the price - so I bought two!
The first Teenage Engineering device that not only looks cool as hell (who doesn't like 80ies calculators)but is reasonably priced as well and seems to come with the right balance of features, although I wish it had a proper arranging/song mode. No wonder it is already sold out on their website, its must-have gadget factor is through the roof!
This one ticks all my boxes 😅😅❤
Too bad Biden don't want me making $1 right now 😅
I’ve always loved TE’s industrial and product design but their price point was a turn off for me. Personally this is in the sweet spot for a beginner like me.
For the price,.. this looks fkn amazing
do dey give some discount if ya send dem some merch?
You Rope-a-Doped us pretty good, bruh: your thumbnail said to me that you HATED it! So, I checked out some other vids first, and my conclusion was: I absolutely LOVE it! The Bone White/Grey/Orange color scheme, the layout, the sound, the features, the PRICE!!
Then I watched your vid, and saw it was nothing but a fakeout. Ali indeed.
Seriously: as soon as I can spare $300, I'm getting one. I don't even need it, but because it looks so fun, and sounds so good, I will get one. So, yeah, I agree with you: Teenage Engineering has heard the complaints, and they're replying. Now all we gotta do is to get Elektron to hear the same thing-THEN we'll truly have a paradigm shift on our hands!
Ahaha! Great content and fun video. Thanks bro
The design is actually derived from german Braun design, which was copied by apple design excessively.
This is dope
Already ordered one.
If they made shell more durable, I’d pay double frankly.
I have an op1f and I like it, but seeing this makes me think they need to update and add features to op1field immediately. For the price, it doesn’t have half of the sampling abilities this does, including any form of beat sync or quantize. It desperately needs a lot of quality updates
The price roasting finally got to them. Funnily enough, they're probably still making 50%+ profit margins. Not a bad sampler, though. It seems like an advanced Volca sample and a couple of effects units all in one.
Couldn’t agree more. It’s like a volca sample on steroids/crack
I have 3 volca samples 😬
I bought this thing the second I saw the price.
Looks great to me!
I like it, it's neat, I think it'll definitely find a home here in geartube; TE knew what they were doing with that look. Not gonna lie it's a gorgeous device.
But at the same time an SP-404 MKII can be easily gotten now for sub $500, which to me isn't too much of a jump from $299 if you're looking for a smaller-ish sampler.
I was pretty much set on getting an SP-404 MKII before I saw this, but now I'm not so sure. Being that you are an SP-404 owner, what do you think the 404 has that the EP 133 doesn't (based on what we know about it right now)?
@@victor-hi2uw Obviously I've got as much to go on as anyone else. I think Cuckoo's video is the best deep dive currently available but not everyone likes his style.
The opinion part:
IMO the EP-133 is less of a serious sampler and more of a sample player with some rudimentary sampling functionality. That's not to say it's a less serious device, just with a different purpose in mind. The EP-133 seems more geared towards loading and jamming with pre-prepared samples and loops, whereas the SP has deep manipulation capabilities on the device itself, both for one shot samples and chopping loops. The EP has far less effects than the SP in its current state but that's not really a fair comparison to make, the SP has an almost comical over-abundance of effects. The EP has separate punch in effects though, kind of a borrowed concept from the PO-33 that there's really not a comparison to on the SP. MIDI implementation for notes is kind of trash on both devices, but's it also seems like it's a little bit of an afterthought on both devices. These are just my observations though.
The numbers part:
From a specs standpoint the two devices are oddly similar in some regards and very different in others. The biggest differences are in Sample Slots, Memory, and Polyphony.
Taken directly from both spec sheets:
The EP has 999 sample slots, the SP has 2,560,
The EP has 64MB of memory, the SP has 16GB and is expandable via SD card
The EP has 6 voice stereo polyphony or 12 voice mono, the SP has 32 voice polyphony
Last part I'm not sure about, but the EP seems to only be able to store 9 projects at once, the SP can store 16
@@syntheticErik Thank you for your elaborate response! Your observation about the different purposes of the devices really puts things into perspective. I think I'll get the 404.
@@justinreynolds6752I'm also getting that impression the more I think about it. You're right, it's probably just FOMO. It's tough to know what you really want when you're bombarded with marketing everyday. Thank you.
@@victor-hi2uw For sure. I just don't want to see anyone get burned on the hype. I don't think you'll regret it.
I love my k.o.
I need one of these! 😂
I'll be picking one up. It'll sell like hot-cakes at that price. As overpriced as most of their stuff is, it's all very good (except the singing dolls).
Looks like one of those calculators with the tape
I'm not often impressed by TE anymore, I've always had the impression that they make expensive novelty gear. This is sweet though, stepping up the sampler game. Great video!