vibe is the key word. started all kinds of wheels turning from what my studio needs to look like to what kind of music i really want to make, etc. it's like an instant high quality idea generator which is not to be underestimated. most importantly, my musical voice seems to be coming through it more than any other gear with infinitely more options. ko 2 is for the babies!
Many years ago, I pushed back on your mentality for using traditional means to make beats. I disagreed with you then, even though I preferred traditional means. Today, I agree with you. I was wrong. You were right. Being a purist in hip hop is important.
Hahaha Welcome to the dark side! Listen, I know that not everyone is going to agree with my approach on this, and I respect the fact also, that many people who use modern means actually do make good music. I think it’s because the experience I had using outboard gear in the 80s and 90s was so special I just want to share that enjoyment with other people. And when it’s so easy to slip into using computers, sometimes I apply some Toughlove that is not always appreciated! Peace!
@@ShawnLov there is no comparison. All variables aside no other machine compares to the 1200. Mpc60 is a very close second. You just can’t replicate the sound without compromising. I use the 2500, I don’t think I’d be very efficient on the 1200 or 60. I wish.
The absolute BEST review on the KO2 hands down!!!😂 I have an X SE and SP-404MK2, and I'm Dawless, and the limitations of the KO2 has made me fall in love with just cooking up beats! Really appreciate your raw and up front opinions on this jawn lol!!🙏🏾✊🏾💚
Facts. I have one of these, plus an MPC One, SP404MK2. Of all the things I have right now, I love making beats on the KO2.. it's a different level of fun once you learn it and get the hang of it. $300 bucks, it's a no brainer.
Great review man I feel the same way about production, I know there’s way more you can do with a DAW but I like a tangible instrument that I can interact with. There’s also the whole ritual of firing up a spliff and taking a trip to the record shop in search of good breaks.
EP133 is one of the best bits of gear I have ever bought. It’s addictive like a toy but makes great music. AND £300 is affordable compared to phones or laptops or other hardware. 11 out of 10.
okay bro i respect the dedication, i respect the love for the old school. But let's not be pretentious about our own shit while dissing the pretentious. For a lot of kids, all we had was a laptop and that's how we learned. Plenty of dope shit made on computers clicking shit and whatever else we could plug in and control with, because that's what we had and we wanted to make dope shit. and it doesn't automatically get easy or mean you aren't part of the culture. If a workflow doesnt work for you yeah thats fine but damn lol
I’m almost 50, so when I was growing up, you had to get a job and save up enough money to get a beat machine if you want to be a producer. As you know, access to beat making tools got a whole lot easier starting in the early 2000s. I don’t necessarily think that was a good thing. Because, besides making beats, I had to learn a little discipline, how to budget, what I valued, and how to take care of a piece of equipment, because of the necessity for having gear if you want to make beats at all. And obviously with exceptions, it probably would have been a good experience for any kid, wanting to make beats to be faced with the responsibility of actually working for their gear. And it would have weeded out the grand majority of people clicking that don’t make good beats. With all that that being said, I do know and appreciate producers who learned on computers and stick to them. But coming from someone who produced through the 80s and 90s, when sampling was brand new, it was a record player, and a beatbox. By the time computers came in to play, the foundation was already laid and computers were not a part of it. I don’t think hip-hop has benefited much by integrating computers. I don’t think there’s an argument for that. So if somebody was starting out on fruity loops in 2000, earn some fucking money and get a Beat Box. Because I learned the SP 1200 in the 80s, And that Knowledge is still useful to me. Most times, people using computers or learning programs and workflow that was soon to become extinct. I come from a time when computers were for nerds, and I’m too old to change my thinking! Ha, ha, ha, ha Peace!
First I was like “damn bro!!, calm down!!” Then I was like “hell yeahhh, go in on ‘em!!”😂😂😂 “damn you hipsters, get off my MPC LAWN!!!!!! ✊🏽 and you forgot one point-NO GODDAMN SUBSCRIPTIONS!!!!
I’ll most likely try this machine. I was really happy to see a new sampler which focuses on actual beatmaking/ the process instead of hanging in menus and looking at waveforms. It reminded me a bit of the EPS „classics” - minus the keyboard ofc - and I loved my EPS. KO II seems quite fun to work on.
I think there is a real key with this device and other videos. Dont expect a professional recording and mixing studio in a single compact device. I see professional people moaning about the limitations of this device, when they should exactly be selling the portability and the benefits of something you can chew on ideas with and then build on later if that is your thing. I am still waiting for mine, but i dont care if it comes short in areas as I am not a music producer and neither is every other customer of this device who will buy it as something portable, cheap and usable. People earning loads from youtube elsewhere need to review it based on the market this device is actually aimed at, just like Shawn.....thankyou
Ahh glad this popped up.. had subbed in the past but maybe on an old acct.. always loved your trash talkin vids.. maybe was on insta. Old SP head here.. just ordered one of these and agree 💯 wit you on all points. Fk a DAW and a waveform image lol
Agree with most of your points. Tho, I want them to add resampling in a future update. Or at least the possibility to assign fix to the pads, not just the whole song.
Love it. No corporate self censorship bs. It’s how I feel about the op-1 field. Have had maschine and in 2020 switched to the mpc live 2. I will never give that thing up, or the op-1 field. No computers, just making music wherever I want. I want to get this thing - people talk a lotta shit about Teenage Engineering, I did too until I got the op-1.
😂😂😂 Bro that's real! Now, I NEED the modern shit when it comes to mixing vocals and doing visuals (i.e. album covers) but when if comes to music I want the buttons, pads and simple screens.
Keepin it real, Monet limited his palette, shigeru myamoto had only 8 bits to create super Mario with, The Wright brothers designs of planes were based on the technological limitations, george Lucas on a budget worked on The limitations of the time, forcing him to be creative in building immersive worlds, and finally Weird Al Yankovic had his parents impose rules not to watch TV shows, movies, or cartoons, consequently he learnt his accordian, read books and listened to music
1st off man everyone makes music differently! Respect different mind. Learn to be flexible… you never know what you can create coming out your comfort zone 🤷🏾♂️
Oh but I have tried. I tried cakewalk in the 1980s. I’ve tried reason. I’ve tried the native instrument products. I’ve tried all the loop programs that started coming out in the 2000. I’ve tried it all. I emphatically reject making beats on the computer. From experience. Peace!
When you restricted with hardware limitations..thats when yur forced to think out the box and find creative ways to make your music. That's why I still have my Zoom ST224. Midi is practicaly non existent and the sequencer sucks, but it sounds great for hip hop beat making.
@@ShawnLov seriously though: I’m feeling you about hating to make music on a computer. I started this in the ‘90s when everyone was breaking their necks trying to move away from real studios as soon as they could, to “do it all digitally”, ‘cause we all bought the line that it was better. Thank God I kept my best stuff from back in the day: my Alesis mixer and my Tascam 688-cause I soon learned one thing: making music with a Mouse SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I’ll now do just about anything I can to use a knob or a fader over doing ANYTHING on a screen. Thing about the 133 is: I don’t need it at all. I’ve got an MPC Live II, plenty of Outboard, and I so I can do everything that the 133 does with everything I already have. But I’ll eventually get one anyway, because of the one thing that you’re touching upon: it looks Fun. Really fun. Fun=Inspiration. And that’s what we all strive for, right? So, that type of inspiration, and for only $300?! That I can definitely afford to spend.
I’ve heard a lot of good things about the live 2-it’s just hard for me to justify spending a lot of money on new gear in the price was right on this one. It’s a little less simple but I’m imagining since I know the MPC 60, the 2000 XL and the 3000 pretty well some of that Knowledge will be transferable? Yeah Alesis is dope!
@@ShawnLov yeah, I’m not sure you’d like the Live II, or any of the modern MPCs, really. They are very much what you hear about them: basically DAWs in a box. They’re very visually-oriented-not a bad thing, but because they have a touch screen and are designed “for ease” means that the designers also felt free to bury so much into many layers of menus. You know: what you do with a DAW. So: they can do a lot more (or, at least much easier) than a 60/2000 XL, but they also don’t have quite the simple, immediate charm of the classic MPCs. If you want to try out their new paradigms, then you could pick up an MPC One for pretty cheap. Start there-I did, before I decided I was in, and sold the One and got the Live II
vibe is the key word. started all kinds of wheels turning from what my studio needs to look like to what kind of music i really want to make, etc. it's like an instant high quality idea generator which is not to be underestimated. most importantly, my musical voice seems to be coming through it more than any other gear with infinitely more options. ko 2 is for the babies!
Many years ago, I pushed back on your mentality for using traditional means to make beats. I disagreed with you then, even though I preferred traditional means. Today, I agree with you. I was wrong. You were right. Being a purist in hip hop is important.
Hahaha Welcome to the dark side! Listen, I know that not everyone is going to agree with my approach on this, and I respect the fact also, that many people who use modern means actually do make good music. I think it’s because the experience I had using outboard gear in the 80s and 90s was so special I just want to share that enjoyment with other people. And when it’s so easy to slip into using computers, sometimes I apply some Toughlove that is not always appreciated! Peace!
@@ShawnLov there is no comparison. All variables aside no other machine compares to the 1200. Mpc60 is a very close second. You just can’t replicate the sound without compromising. I use the 2500, I don’t think I’d be very efficient on the 1200 or 60. I wish.
This shit was funny and informative. Thank you for the enjoyable review, I don't even want to buy it.
The absolute BEST review on the KO2 hands down!!!😂 I have an X SE and SP-404MK2, and I'm Dawless, and the limitations of the KO2 has made me fall in love with just cooking up beats! Really appreciate your raw and up front opinions on this jawn lol!!🙏🏾✊🏾💚
Facts. I have one of these, plus an MPC One, SP404MK2. Of all the things I have right now, I love making beats on the KO2.. it's a different level of fun once you learn it and get the hang of it. $300 bucks, it's a no brainer.
I have all the gear you mentioned to, but i love the limitations of the ko2 and for two weeks thats all i want to make music with.
Great review man I feel the same way about production, I know there’s way more you can do with a DAW but I like a tangible instrument that I can interact with.
There’s also the whole ritual of firing up a spliff and taking a trip to the record shop in search of good breaks.
EP133 is one of the best bits of gear I have ever bought. It’s addictive like a toy but makes great music. AND £300 is affordable compared to phones or laptops or other hardware. 11 out of 10.
Love the hands on perspective not tainted by the modern DAWs
Not for nothing, you need to get a po-33, then sync it to your ko2.
The po-33 is the poor mans baby sp. For real. Shit Bangs.
Just got the op-1 field, thinking about the 33. Is it redundant if I got the op-1 already?
okay bro i respect the dedication, i respect the love for the old school. But let's not be pretentious about our own shit while dissing the pretentious. For a lot of kids, all we had was a laptop and that's how we learned. Plenty of dope shit made on computers clicking shit and whatever else we could plug in and control with, because that's what we had and we wanted to make dope shit. and it doesn't automatically get easy or mean you aren't part of the culture. If a workflow doesnt work for you yeah thats fine but damn lol
I’m almost 50, so when I was growing up, you had to get a job and save up enough money to get a beat machine if you want to be a producer. As you know, access to beat making tools got a whole lot easier starting in the early 2000s. I don’t necessarily think that was a good thing. Because, besides making beats, I had to learn a little discipline, how to budget, what I valued, and how to take care of a piece of equipment, because of the necessity for having gear if you want to make beats at all.
And obviously with exceptions, it probably would have been a good experience for any kid, wanting to make beats to be faced with the responsibility of actually working for their gear. And it would have weeded out the grand majority of people clicking that don’t make good beats. With all that that being said, I do know and appreciate producers who learned on computers and stick to them. But coming from someone who produced through the 80s and 90s, when sampling was brand new, it was a record player, and a beatbox. By the time computers came in to play, the foundation was already laid and computers were not a part of it. I don’t think hip-hop has benefited much by integrating computers. I don’t think there’s an argument for that. So if somebody was starting out on fruity loops in 2000, earn some fucking money and get a Beat Box. Because I learned the SP 1200 in the 80s, And that Knowledge is still useful to me. Most times, people using computers or learning programs and workflow that was soon to become extinct. I come from a time when computers were for nerds, and I’m too old to change my thinking! Ha, ha, ha, ha Peace!
First I was like “damn bro!!, calm down!!” Then I was like “hell yeahhh, go in on ‘em!!”😂😂😂 “damn you hipsters, get off my MPC LAWN!!!!!! ✊🏽 and you forgot one point-NO GODDAMN SUBSCRIPTIONS!!!!
I’ll most likely try this machine. I was really happy to see a new sampler which focuses on actual beatmaking/ the process instead of hanging in menus and looking at waveforms. It reminded me a bit of the EPS „classics” - minus the keyboard ofc - and I loved my EPS. KO II seems quite fun to work on.
Now that was a "real" , practical and smart review...
Notice no knob on ur fader... Smart
Thank you for your raw and unfiltered review!
I think there is a real key with this device and other videos. Dont expect a professional recording and mixing studio in a single compact device. I see professional people moaning about the limitations of this device, when they should exactly be selling the portability and the benefits of something you can chew on ideas with and then build on later if that is your thing. I am still waiting for mine, but i dont care if it comes short in areas as I am not a music producer and neither is every other customer of this device who will buy it as something portable, cheap and usable. People earning loads from youtube elsewhere need to review it based on the market this device is actually aimed at, just like Shawn.....thankyou
they moaning about it while comparing it to gear that costs thousands...
Ahh glad this popped up.. had subbed in the past but maybe on an old acct.. always loved your trash talkin vids.. maybe was on insta.
Old SP head here.. just ordered one of these and agree 💯 wit you on all points. Fk a DAW and a waveform image lol
Amen brother!
Great video and breakdown. 💯🫡
Try the KO pocket operator. It’s fire!
Agree with most of your points. Tho, I want them to add resampling in a future update. Or at least the possibility to assign fix to the pads, not just the whole song.
Good machine. Now these youngsters get off that unmanly Fruity Loops Studio and make some real hip hop.
SUPER DOPE review. i have ALL the pocket operators, and of course my trusty sp 404. and as soon as these get back in stock im gonna cop one
I want one but I’m waiting till they get the quality control together. It’s a gorgeous device. Like you, I want to get away from staring at computer.
Perfectly stated. I agree.
Love it. No corporate self censorship bs. It’s how I feel about the op-1 field. Have had maschine and in 2020 switched to the mpc live 2. I will never give that thing up, or the op-1 field. No computers, just making music wherever I want. I want to get this thing - people talk a lotta shit about Teenage Engineering, I did too until I got the op-1.
😂😂😂 Bro that's real! Now, I NEED the modern shit when it comes to mixing vocals and doing visuals (i.e. album covers) but when if comes to music I want the buttons, pads and simple screens.
The 33 is for raw hip hop give it a try g. Actually it’s really 200$ over priced! Koala kills this for 5$ if you go that route!
Thanks, I imagine there might be some good tools on the phone, but I would sooner swallow my phone, than use it to make beats
This was the review for me. Boom
Love your attitude man. Making music on a computer is the most boring thing ever and this thing looks awesome
😂😂😂perfect spot on review. I fucking love limitations
we are cut from similar cloth 😂😂 subbed
Does this have glide between notes? So I can make westcoast wire sounds or bass glides up and down?
this device is super cool - you just make music almost by accident :)
Preach it bro! Subbed homie I dig your thinking
I like this dude. 😁👍
Keepin it real, Monet limited his palette, shigeru myamoto had only 8 bits to create super Mario with, The Wright brothers designs of planes were based on the technological limitations, george Lucas on a budget worked on The limitations of the time, forcing him to be creative in building immersive worlds, and finally Weird Al Yankovic had his parents impose rules not to watch TV shows, movies, or cartoons, consequently he learnt his accordian, read books and listened to music
Hysterical fact flinging!!
1st off man everyone makes music differently! Respect different mind. Learn to be flexible… you never know what you can create coming out your comfort zone 🤷🏾♂️
Oh but I have tried. I tried cakewalk in the 1980s. I’ve tried reason. I’ve tried the native instrument products. I’ve tried all the loop programs that started coming out in the 2000. I’ve tried it all. I emphatically reject making beats on the computer. From experience. Peace!
@@ShawnLov at least you tried 👍🏽. Keep trying new things. That’s how you got this far in life…
Deep 😂
Hey you got records tho pa?
When you restricted with hardware limitations..thats when yur forced to think out the box and find creative ways to make your music. That's why I still have my Zoom ST224. Midi is practicaly non existent and the sequencer sucks, but it sounds great for hip hop beat making.
lmaooo
😂😂😂
So you skipped the computer to use the calculator😂😂😂😂
The thing about you that really sucks is: you keep your cards so close to your vest, that I can't tell what you feel about ANYTHING, Man!😄😄😄
Hahahaha a lot of very thick veils!
@@ShawnLov seriously though: I’m feeling you about hating to make music on a computer. I started this in the ‘90s when everyone was breaking their necks trying to move away from real studios as soon as they could, to “do it all digitally”, ‘cause we all bought the line that it was better. Thank God I kept my best stuff from back in the day: my Alesis mixer and my Tascam 688-cause I soon learned one thing: making music with a Mouse SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I’ll now do just about anything I can to use a knob or a fader over doing ANYTHING on a screen.
Thing about the 133 is: I don’t need it at all. I’ve got an MPC Live II, plenty of Outboard, and I so I can do everything that the 133 does with everything I already have. But I’ll eventually get one anyway, because of the one thing that you’re touching upon: it looks Fun. Really fun. Fun=Inspiration. And that’s what we all strive for, right? So, that type of inspiration, and for only $300?! That I can definitely afford to spend.
I’ve heard a lot of good things about the live 2-it’s just hard for me to justify spending a lot of money on new gear in the price was right on this one.
It’s a little less simple but I’m imagining since I know the MPC 60, the 2000 XL and the 3000 pretty well some of that Knowledge will be transferable?
Yeah Alesis is dope!
@@ShawnLov yeah, I’m not sure you’d like the Live II, or any of the modern MPCs, really. They are very much what you hear about them: basically DAWs in a box. They’re very visually-oriented-not a bad thing, but because they have a touch screen and are designed “for ease” means that the designers also felt free to bury so much into many layers of menus. You know: what you do with a DAW.
So: they can do a lot more (or, at least much easier) than a 60/2000 XL, but they also don’t have quite the simple, immediate charm of the classic MPCs.
If you want to try out their new paradigms, then you could pick up an MPC One for pretty cheap. Start there-I did, before I decided I was in, and sold the One and got the Live II
Bro 😂
You live'n in that pass bro it 2024. Doesn't matter what gear you use if the music is good. Go ask 9th wonder or Madlib.
We all have our opinions. I speak from my experienced perspective. Peace!
Right...Reality and Opinions are two different things.@@ShawnLov
Bro, your type believes a man can be a woman. Enough said.