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  • @pheroego
    @pheroego ปีที่แล้ว +22442

    the "nevermind I just won, pretend I didn't do that" is painfully accurate

    • @justanobody0
      @justanobody0 ปีที่แล้ว +536

      SungWon probably does this to experienced players too

    • @leorobin832
      @leorobin832 ปีที่แล้ว +113

      Man I’ve done that

    • @Mmoll1990
      @Mmoll1990 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      Happens to me all the time.

    • @yoshitsuna27
      @yoshitsuna27 ปีที่แล้ว +428

      And yet he counted that win to activate Third Time's the Farm.

    • @Mmoll1990
      @Mmoll1990 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      @@yoshitsuna27 He might have counted a previous game from before the video started.

  • @tyler9039
    @tyler9039 ปีที่แล้ว +24267

    Every day we get closer to finally deciphering the rules of the cow game

    • @Jamato-sUn
      @Jamato-sUn ปีที่แล้ว +1784

      Or maybe farther from it. Hard to tell

    • @MK-hp8zr
      @MK-hp8zr ปีที่แล้ว +353

      Wishful thinking

    • @justanobody0
      @justanobody0 ปีที่แล้ว +403

      I'm afraid we're are so far out of SungWon's league in this game that we ought to purge our memories of this game's existence

    • @uninspiredgaming9963
      @uninspiredgaming9963 ปีที่แล้ว +290

      One Flash Step forward, two Cow Jumps Over The Moon backward

    • @criticallol3039
      @criticallol3039 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      Only 10,569 (and counting) more rules to go!

  • @mechaswool
    @mechaswool ปีที่แล้ว +7208

    The "mooserable little pile of secrets" really got me

    • @justanobody0
      @justanobody0 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      this game needs to be made

    • @ashamansedai
      @ashamansedai ปีที่แล้ว +147

      What about "third time's the farm" 😂😂😂

    • @philiphunt-bull5817
      @philiphunt-bull5817 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      But enough talk!

    • @jamesgratz4771
      @jamesgratz4771 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      I totally wasn’t expecting it and burst out laughing

    • @ManicDX10
      @ManicDX10 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      SOTN jokes in 2023. Truly we are in the best timeline

  • @Bladebrent
    @Bladebrent ปีที่แล้ว +4924

    A card that makes you instantly win the game if your opponent asks a question about how to play the game seems like the most beginner's trap card you could possibly have

    • @rezellehime
      @rezellehime ปีที่แล้ว +61

      Sounds like Muffin Time

    • @nickpincus1835
      @nickpincus1835 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Sounds very win more.

    • @allredjohn
      @allredjohn ปีที่แล้ว +24

      The name of the game is Mao

    • @mlanier3533
      @mlanier3533 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      There was a mechanic in one of the joke mtg sets called "gotcha" which triggered when your opponent said certain words. One of the main game designers in on record saying its the worst mechanic they have ever made

    • @lolly9804
      @lolly9804 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Not a TCG, but Hex Hex has a card that you read out and if someone wasn't paying attention and is wondering why everyone else is got a finger on their head. They loss.

  • @knightofendor8384
    @knightofendor8384 ปีที่แล้ว +3947

    One day we’ll manage to cobble together a complete game from these skits.

    • @49erfanaticfromnm30
      @49erfanaticfromnm30 ปีที่แล้ว +126

      Which will activate my "hoof and mouth disease" trap card. Muahahaha

    • @araa5422
      @araa5422 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      that's what we said about the king dragon timeline

    • @cooldumpy7913
      @cooldumpy7913 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      @@araa5422 I mean someone made a playlist which puts the videos in chronological order

    • @evannibbe9375
      @evannibbe9375 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      The game is horribly designed if you can win in two turns from the start.

    • @knightofendor8384
      @knightofendor8384 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@evannibbe9375 my friend have you ever engaged in the game of Yugioh? Games typically last between 2-4 turns, sometimes only one.

  • @nutshot_brawler8466
    @nutshot_brawler8466 ปีที่แล้ว +6463

    I like how he says to forget he won the first game, but when he plays the "Third time's the farm" card, he counts the win he said to forget about

    • @BlandoGaming
      @BlandoGaming ปีที่แล้ว +351

      He played the long con and it payed out big.

    • @zenthr
      @zenthr ปีที่แล้ว +203

      The after he said to forget about him winning the game, the rest of the video takes place as a Self-Imposed Handicap Flash Step, come on.

    • @mrcombustiblelemon2902
      @mrcombustiblelemon2902 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      Should've played a card during the Victory Forgetting Flash Window

    • @OntarioTrafficMan
      @OntarioTrafficMan ปีที่แล้ว +85

      He asks his opponent to pretend he didn't win. He didn't say anything about _himself_ pretending he didn't win.

    • @jama211
      @jama211 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      lol so true

  • @boccs9925
    @boccs9925 ปีที่แล้ว +2532

    The cow card game remains my favorite recurring bit. I'm just... so fascinated with it.

    • @Its_A_Gundam
      @Its_A_Gundam ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Cheese factory 😂

    • @deraile
      @deraile ปีที่แล้ว +72

      It's his dedication to the continuity and depth of it, and all the prop cards he made just for it. You can tell he had fun. But also that he's a nerd and he's in his element 😂 I'm not into card games but he makes the humor super accessible and still hilarious.

    • @connordarvall8482
      @connordarvall8482 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Honestly, after trying out DQ11, I'm now waiting to hear more about the King Dragon saga. I wonder how many cliches JRPGs have and how they could be good skit material.

    • @CornyBum
      @CornyBum ปีที่แล้ว

      There's always mooooore to learn. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

    • @nutshot_brawler8466
      @nutshot_brawler8466 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      It's clear he put a lot of thought into this fake game, can't wait for him to turn it into an actual card game, that's a crowdfund that I would 100% contribute to

  • @abduljah9355
    @abduljah9355 ปีที่แล้ว +3843

    The idea that you can continue to attack during your opponent's surrender is so classic TCG.

    • @shumaticrevolution
      @shumaticrevolution ปีที่แล้ว +156

      It is during the end-flash step. Before the game recognises the surrender it has to clean up the game state.
      As per the updated ruling on the flash-flash-forward phase (badly worded as it technically isn't a phase) Surrenders are only looked at before the beginning of the moo-cow step. This is to prevent people from surrendering before the "Victory Cow" card can graze the field and win the entire match. (If Victory cow grazes the field and there are no plant counters left on the field the player owning the Victory cow wins the match. A match is a best of 3 game)

    • @LloydTheZephyrian
      @LloydTheZephyrian ปีที่แล้ว +110

      It's like that time Yugi just kept beating up a kid by continuing to draw monster cards to deal damage even after the kid's HP hit 0.

    • @Rynjinivar
      @Rynjinivar ปีที่แล้ว +194

      Funny-ish story time: Yugioh had to specifically make a rule around this due to the existence of a card called Victory Dragon.
      Necessary context: Yugioh is played in a best of 3 match format. So even if you lose one game, you can still win the match 2-1 off the back of it.
      Victory Dragon has the effect that if it kills your opponent, they lose the match. Not the GAME, the MATCH. All 3 games.
      And that's why Yugioh had to clarify that, yes, the player can forfeit the match AT ANY TIME, including after battle declaration and before the damage step is calculated. Meaning players can just concede right before Victory Dragon connects, losing only a single game but not the whole match.
      Before this, there were genuinely arguments being had over this like "Yeah I know you conceded but I STILL GET TO ATTACK, so you lose the other games too bro." "Nuh-uh, I conceded! The match is over! Stop trying to play cards!"

    • @Sorin2120
      @Sorin2120 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@Rynjinivar I think you said match when you meant game a couple times there at the end. Classic beginner mistake.

    • @hookah6579
      @hookah6579 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Rynjinivar and yet somehow yugioh is worse now than it was than. I'd take some bullshit victory dragon to hasten matches over the child porn shit and meta decks that take ten minutes to go off but somehow it's a "fast" game because it's ten minute set ups to otk

  • @carpedm9846
    @carpedm9846 ปีที่แล้ว +1120

    While teaching my friend yugioh, I remember sitting on a solemn judgement for the entire game because I didnt want to end their turn too early.

    • @dragonlordofchaos
      @dragonlordofchaos ปีที่แล้ว +122

      Now that is restraint.

    • @themightytalkingsalamander5169
      @themightytalkingsalamander5169 ปีที่แล้ว +92

      i played yugioh again with my friends after years of having quit because of people who play cards without reading them (was when spellbooks came out) and the first deck they used both told me i cant do anything and also won in 1 turn. i now play traptrixes out of spite.

    • @sul_9999
      @sul_9999 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@themightytalkingsalamander5169 bro rocking that stun playstyle fr

    • @BeastBeatsYGO
      @BeastBeatsYGO ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Patient solemns are best solemns

    • @wickederebus
      @wickederebus ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@themightytalkingsalamander5169 Are you running Time-Tearing Morganite in your Traptrix deck?
      free extra Normal summon, extra draw, and you don't really run in hand monster effects aside from maybe the Arachno?

  • @Saccillia
    @Saccillia ปีที่แล้ว +2215

    This reminds me when my bf tried to teach me mtg.. he never went easy, went at his own pace, and never explained every step. I developed a fear of the color blue for a year

    • @aokyoutsuki7744
      @aokyoutsuki7744 ปีที่แล้ว +158

      ...ah, the i wanna win instead of friendly back2back player

    • @stevenjungbluth640
      @stevenjungbluth640 ปีที่แล้ว +315

      That's just all blue players, so don't worry about it.

    • @shanec9672
      @shanec9672 ปีที่แล้ว +155

      Finally gave in and let a friend of mine try to teach me MTG once. He gave me one of two pre-made decks so we could just see how it worked. By the end of the game, I never got to attack his life points or whatever even once, and he finished with more than he started. Never again.

    • @gregoryeverson741
      @gregoryeverson741 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      I lost to a blue deck by running out of cards, the whole game was, Discard, Discard, Discard.

    • @locus_of_magic217
      @locus_of_magic217 ปีที่แล้ว +141

      He wasn't trying to teach you to play, he was trying to goldfish against an opponanant. He was setting you up as a jobber. He wanted to have a better win ratio so he didn't teach you the game properly.
      But also, fear of the colour blue is a rational reaponse to playing Magic.
      (Other emotions include: annoyed at green, thrilled by red, white is there, dreading black, )

  • @chris-m1g5r
    @chris-m1g5r ปีที่แล้ว +4738

    I love how he goes from "Oh oops I won't do that to go easy on you" to "I will completely destroy you" in an instant.

    • @darmakx99
      @darmakx99 ปีที่แล้ว +155

      TCG players can't help it, it's just who they are. They're broken as people 😂

    • @jeremyabbott4537
      @jeremyabbott4537 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      I mean, you can't choose when you get the OTK, it just happens

    • @kevinbarber2795
      @kevinbarber2795 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Well you always seem to get the best hands when you’re teaching a new player.

    • @homuraakemi103
      @homuraakemi103 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      “It’s not MY fault all my decks have 15 ways to utterly decimate a new player.”

    • @OvhanDevos
      @OvhanDevos ปีที่แล้ว +7

      That's literally anything competitive.

  • @rodneypeerkhan
    @rodneypeerkhan ปีที่แล้ว +3008

    "I still have more cards to play" hits hard, especially when you are setting up a great move and your opponent can already see that they lost and they want to quit playing

    • @justanobody0
      @justanobody0 ปีที่แล้ว +85

      Yep. Especially if a player is playing a deck that is slow grind it out pace deck with the big bang at the end, but every deck you play is agro that quit if it's not going their way early on

    • @runningoncylinders3829
      @runningoncylinders3829 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Scoop Phase

    • @vullord666
      @vullord666 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Literally me on Duel links. I don't play ranked much because I'm not good, but every now and then I hop on and draw the perfect hand but before I can have any fun the opponent surrenders. I don't even take that long (at least not as long as I want for other players to decide to set one card and end their turn).

    • @webbowser8834
      @webbowser8834 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Sun Disk players in LoR be like...

    • @SlayerKast
      @SlayerKast ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Painfully true. If they already have lethal on the board and they keep summoning or playing, I just surrender at that point. Like, just help me move on, you don’t need to go for the flair!

  • @seanlems
    @seanlems ปีที่แล้ว +831

    “Nevermind I just won, pretend I didn’t do that” is exactly what happened the first time one of my friends tried to teach me how to play Magic

    • @kaukospots
      @kaukospots ปีที่แล้ว +41

      holding back is too painful

    • @calliopeshif7581
      @calliopeshif7581 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@kaukospots You'll get over it

    • @lukeingle5587
      @lukeingle5587 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Lul welcome to Magic, hope you enjoy your money pit, know I do.

    • @JohnnyYeTaecanUktena
      @JohnnyYeTaecanUktena ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@lukeingle5587 money pit? nah man $20 USD for a mono red insta competitive deck, and i am talking about a 100 card deck. You just have to know what you are looking for and how to fucking read which i know Yugioh players never do

    • @shannonjones8877
      @shannonjones8877 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah my experience trying to get into Magic back in the late 90s was similarly brutal.

  • @paulgallagher5889
    @paulgallagher5889 ปีที่แล้ว +888

    "What is a flash window?! A Mooserable pile of secrets!!"
    Meme game is simply God Tier. The man is unstoppable!

    • @giannieg
      @giannieg ปีที่แล้ว +64

      Gonna bet it was from the hit game Cattle-vania.

    • @MediumSpec
      @MediumSpec ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@giannieg Three weeks later and this random comment made me spit out my morning coffee *and* scare my cat at the same time. Well done.

    • @ericqel-droma7628
      @ericqel-droma7628 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Sym-farm-y of the Night is my favorite Mootroidvania game.

    • @Michaeldragon800
      @Michaeldragon800 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "But enough Talk! have at the!"

  • @doovin1827
    @doovin1827 ปีที่แล้ว +386

    I love the idea of a card that only works when someone asks something about the game. That's never going to come up in high level play, it's just there to smite newbies.

    • @HowardFlint-cc7ry
      @HowardFlint-cc7ry ปีที่แล้ว +21

      *me trying to remember if I can cast something in response to someone sacrificing a treasure*
      s...sure...

    • @harmoen
      @harmoen ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well there would be counterplay because there would be a card that only works when your opponent plays (or does not play) a card in response to you asking a question

    • @raznaak
      @raznaak 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      There is a MtG card Stone-Cold Basilisk that has a destroy-on-attack/block ability and your opponent may want to know the specifics of why, but you don't always have to explain your cards to your opponents, most of the time either they know already or (important in this case), they take your card to read it themselves.
      This card "turns to stone" your opponent when they read it, which means they literally can't do anything else during this turn, they can't block, attack, cast spells or activate abilities...
      This card is also in Unhinged, one of the "joke" sets of Magic where normal rules are often a suggestion and that you can't play in any tournament with (well, 99% of the time).

    • @ChaosRayZero
      @ChaosRayZero 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@raznaak _I was gonna say_ it sounded like something from the *Magic the Gathering Unhinged* and/or *Unglued* set! 😆
      No, I didn't know that specific card existed- I just meant in general. 😋

    • @destroyermaker
      @destroyermaker หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's some Un-set shit

  • @glizzy2.O
    @glizzy2.O ปีที่แล้ว +2899

    The "A mooserable little pile of secrets" part was pure unfiltered comedic gold. 💀😂

    • @darkrexkigntstone8773
      @darkrexkigntstone8773 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      but enough talk, moo at you!

    • @BlackPsionic
      @BlackPsionic ปีที่แล้ว +86

      @@darkrexkigntstone8773 Have at moo*

    • @EpicNerdsWithCameras
      @EpicNerdsWithCameras ปีที่แล้ว +31

      It's always a good day for a Castlevania reference

    • @AlbertTao
      @AlbertTao ปีที่แล้ว +22

      "what is a cow?"

    • @artofgnomes
      @artofgnomes ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I want this card framed in my house

  • @FormosusII
    @FormosusII ปีที่แล้ว +1414

    The flavor text on Baby Punchable Cow is "Star Dragons are the world's police and the Imperial Thunder Dragon is an ally of justice" - I think we just got some important ProZD lore.

    • @webbowser8834
      @webbowser8834 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      I mean, trying to play with Imperial Thunder Dragon Siegwurm does kind of feel like putting a baby punchable cow onto the board with how understatted it is so...

    • @wanderlustwarrior
      @wanderlustwarrior ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Are those *all* yugioh references, or just the last few, and some are references to another game?

    • @emiliuszchyba6690
      @emiliuszchyba6690 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Ah yes, random descriptions, source of the finest lore

    • @webbowser8834
      @webbowser8834 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      @@wanderlustwarrior Nah, that one is flavor text lifted directly from Battle Spirits Saga.
      Battle Spirits does have a lot of parallels to YGO, at least in terms of card art design. It even has a (surprisingly solid) anime that takes place in a world where everyone solves their problems in over the top card duels.

    • @wanderlustwarrior
      @wanderlustwarrior ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@webbowser8834 Lifted directly including the "Thunder Dragon" and "Ally of Justice" parts that are YGO archetypes?

  • @theendman8352
    @theendman8352 ปีที่แล้ว +2478

    I think we all can collectively come together to appreciate the genuis of "third times the farm."

  • @JF-um3wz
    @JF-um3wz ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Having a card that explicitly has an effect if someone asks what a flash step is ABSOLUTELY implies this guy came to fuck with the newbie.

  • @moonhawk_
    @moonhawk_ ปีที่แล้ว +468

    Eagerly awaiting the day SungWon finally announces an actual cow-based card game. I WILL buy it

    • @DugrozReports
      @DugrozReports ปีที่แล้ว +25

      It BETTER include "Third Time's the Farm!"

  • @RocaRay
    @RocaRay ปีที่แล้ว +1666

    He actually goes out of his way to create physical cards for all this

    • @codetaku
      @codetaku ปีที่แล้ว +188

      They also get higher quality every time

    • @CSHummer
      @CSHummer ปีที่แล้ว +62

      I think these mirror the actual layout of the sponsored game

    • @theseaelf
      @theseaelf ปีที่แล้ว +38

      AND puts them in sleeves.

    • @mramirez6138
      @mramirez6138 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      His wife makes them

    • @unr3alize602
      @unr3alize602 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      It's only a matter of time before he Kickstart's a real game

  • @xacharon
    @xacharon ปีที่แล้ว +910

    Man, the "I still have more cards to play" phase is way more aggressive than the "Cheese Tasting" phase!

    • @TippyHippy
      @TippyHippy ปีที่แล้ว +4

      l put my hamster in a sock and slammed it against the furniture.

    • @alexhinners
      @alexhinners ปีที่แล้ว +9

      ProZD has just grown more short-tempered over the years. He simply wants to finally find a worthy opponent!! 😫

  • @nightsong81
    @nightsong81 ปีที่แล้ว +328

    I like how the mechanics of the cow game are intentionally designed to troll new players and end friendships.

  • @opheliamunroe1110
    @opheliamunroe1110 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    This was me literally crying while learning Magic against someone who decided to use a Blue deck against me and I was like WHAT IS GOING ON?!?

  • @realNom2mooncow
    @realNom2mooncow ปีที่แล้ว +214

    I love how this starts off reasonable, and you can connect with all the characters on a deep emotional level before it is destroyed in a fury of nonsense

    • @JockenN
      @JockenN ปีที่แล้ว +14

      So in other words your average game of Magic the Gathering then.

  • @moowaffels
    @moowaffels ปีที่แล้ว +558

    Don’t forget to wake up your friend while they sleep so you can play the utterly tired card during the REM step.

    • @boogerparty
      @boogerparty ปีที่แล้ว +82

      *Udderly

    • @moowaffels
      @moowaffels ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@boogerparty oh lol yea that was the pun oops.

    • @stars-and-garters
      @stars-and-garters ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@moowaffels I feel like the mistake to actually spell the pun word properly just improves the charm of this comment, and may have even been the secret intent all along.
      🤔

    • @Jazzatic2011
      @Jazzatic2011 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I almost spit my food from the comment just on the rem step

    • @spongeb27
      @spongeb27 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@moowaffels hahahahahaha you got everything right except the entire point for making the comment :p

  • @justanobody0
    @justanobody0 ปีที่แล้ว +1868

    Even though this is a skit, SungWon is definitely the super seasoned player

    • @ramiel7666
      @ramiel7666 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Seasoned with what, though?

    • @moonfusion9964
      @moonfusion9964 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      @@ramiel7666 Pepper.

    • @fefega
      @fefega ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@ramiel7666 Sugar, spice, and everything nice

  • @LuckyMacchiato
    @LuckyMacchiato ปีที่แล้ว +585

    The 'What is a Flash Window' card made me laugh so hard I nearly choked! Bravo!

    • @justanobody0
      @justanobody0 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      if SungWon makes this (if he hasn't already), he has to make cards like that

  • @maxgevans
    @maxgevans ปีที่แล้ว +152

    I started playing Magic the Gathering with my very experienced friends and it’s just miserable every time - this video speaks to my soul

    • @shannonjones8877
      @shannonjones8877 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      That was my experience with Magic back in the 90s... i gave up on it REAL quick.

    • @hysterical-queer
      @hysterical-queer ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I always want to play Magic with my husband but I'm not very experienced and every time we play he goes so hard I'm at -60. When I've asked him why he doesn't just hit me once and call it a win he tells me that feels disrespectful 😂

    • @Philosjutsu
      @Philosjutsu ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They're probably playing some shitty format like EDH or Legacy. Standard games you can't win that quickly. It's much more balanced.

    • @dodopie3577
      @dodopie3577 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Philosjutsu problem is standard tends to either flip between luck based jank or meta decks that have been played 10 million times

    • @sojourner650
      @sojourner650 ปีที่แล้ว

      The good news is there are plenty of other card games out there -- even by the creator of MTG. Try some others!

  • @joshyoung1440
    @joshyoung1440 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    "Third Time's The Farm" actually makes a lot of sense and is a very clever way to say "defeat" (cause... y'know... "they took the farm" or "bet the farm on it" as allusions to losing everything). 10/10

  • @WalnutAnimations
    @WalnutAnimations ปีที่แล้ว +592

    I can’t get over “third times the farm” it’s just too hilarious

  • @KryptiX_FPS
    @KryptiX_FPS ปีที่แล้ว +269

    Okay, the "'What is a flash window?' 'A mooserable little pile of secrets'" part got me good

    • @hellopeoples8
      @hellopeoples8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      what's that a reference to? can't quite remember

    • @UmbraPsi
      @UmbraPsi ปีที่แล้ว +17

      ​@@hellopeoples8 it's a line from a castlevania game, "what is a man but a miserable pile of secrets?" That qoute came out of left field and hit me straight in the gut lol

  • @DanteBelmont96
    @DanteBelmont96 ปีที่แล้ว +1054

    This accurately sums up the struggle with playing MTG and Yugioh with newer or inexperienced players

    • @DanielSmith-sf5om
      @DanielSmith-sf5om ปีที่แล้ว +89

      For real. I had to make a painfully bad deck to be able to play properly with a new player without ending the game very fast. I didn’t want them to be discouraged so we’ve been gradually playing better decks as they get more accustomed to the game

    • @shmarfle47
      @shmarfle47 ปีที่แล้ว +105

      A result of the games being out for so long is that the skill ceiling is just so much higher than the floor now. The rules themselves don’t take too long to pick up, it’s just that modern cards are notably more advanced than the cards you would give to a new player for practice / learning.

    • @tarqsharq
      @tarqsharq ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@DanielSmith-sf5om I recently got dragged into the game by friends again and the Commander format has been a lot less crazy for me, especially if play with a few people in the same game to constantly snipe the most dangerous seeming person at any given moment :D

    • @darkmagiccardsyugioh2985
      @darkmagiccardsyugioh2985 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@DanielSmith-sf5om I have a set of starter decks set aside to teach new players. I've found it helps to give them a basic deck and work up from there.

    • @Medsas
      @Medsas ปีที่แล้ว

      ahh another fan of Simic Flash I see 😂

  • @Sugin14
    @Sugin14 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    This is exactly how I feel whenever I try to play magic or Yu-Gi-Oh now.

    • @tlkfanrwbyfan8716
      @tlkfanrwbyfan8716 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      My friend and I only use structure or character decks because meta Yugioh is some of the most unfun, solitaire garbage either of us have ever played.

    • @ML-yn9yu
      @ML-yn9yu ปีที่แล้ว +3

      yeah this is more like Yu-gi-oh- MTG other than blue doesn't move this quickly.

  • @notarealfirstnamenotareall746
    @notarealfirstnamenotareall746 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I remember my second game ever playing the WoW TCG (essentially WoW themed MTG. Also literally the second time I'd ever played a table top card game). The player then proceeded to on his first turn banish a six or seven cost monster to the shadow realm, then on turn two use a two cost card to bring it through a portal from the shadow realm onto the field. Its effect was that it dealt one damage to every monster on my side of the field at the end of his turn and anything that was dealt damage could not be untapped during my starting phase.
    The only reason I still play card games is because the shop owner saw what was happening, and actually sat down with me with a beginner deck he had, and I was able to actually have fun.

    • @st0lf
      @st0lf ปีที่แล้ว +5

      same for yugioh these days. it's so unfriendly towards beginners, because most of the game just doesn't happen.
      You won't ever learn the phases by playing, because they don't really mean anything anymore. just like turn order. you just basically watch someone play solitaire for 5 minutes during YOUR TURN, then say "Ok, now you can go" only to cast a spell or some shit as a reaction to the next breath you take and somehow kill you without it being clear how.

    • @zhaneshirkey6788
      @zhaneshirkey6788 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@st0lfi learned yugiob a few years back in peak rokket meta, and when i brought up whoever goes first basically just wins i always got told "just play mystic mine" 💀💀 im so glad i stuck through and learned to play fr bc that made me want to quit

  • @RustalWolf
    @RustalWolf ปีที่แล้ว +472

    The idea of an interrupt window when your opponent concedes is brilliant

    • @zacharyadler4071
      @zacharyadler4071 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      It would actually matter in more than 2 player games too since conceding is an instantaneous effect which removes all cards that you own from the game, which could mess with other players that may have taken control of your cards somehow

    • @webbowser8834
      @webbowser8834 ปีที่แล้ว +97

      So uhhhh, funny story about that. There has been a series of no banlist Yu-Gi-Oh OCG (Original Card Game) tournaments. The OCG and TCG (Trading Card Game) have different rulesets, banlists (not relevant here because these tournaments had no banlists), and card pools. A couple of tournaments in, someone noticed an important rules difference between the OCG and the TCG: In the TCG a player can unilaterally concede and end the game instantly in a loss. In the OCG, a player can only concede if their opponent accepts the concession. Setting aside the possibility of hostage taking, this is relevant because of a little card called "Victory Dragon", an understatted, very difficult to summon, basically vanilla fusion monster that reads "If Victory Dragon attacks and reduces the opponent's life points to 0, the controlling player wins 2 games instead of 1". This card is unplayable garbage in the TCG because the opponent can just concede the moment it becomes clear Victory Dragon is going to take the game, meaning they only lose 1 game instead of 2 and the opponent just wasted a bunch of resources on what is basically a fancy Blue Eyes White Dragon. It's also very banned in both the OCG and the TCG because the devs realized that cards that have effects outside of the game they're played in are terrible design and should never see the light of day. Unfortunately for the TOs of this particular series of tournaments however, no banlist means no banlist, so Victory Dragon was very much on the menu, ripe for exploitation. Making Victory Dragon even stronger is the fact that, as I'm sure you can imagine, the power level of this no banlist meta was exceedingly high, meaning there were plenty of games where one player was just completely locked out of the game in the first turn or two with little to no chance of a comeback. Because of this, the winning player has all day(aka a turn or two, given the speed of this meta) to setup the Victory Dragon and clinch the entire set off a single game.
      And that's why nobody designs cards like this for serious competitive play anymore.

    • @solitare4602
      @solitare4602 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Reminds me of Pursuit in Pokemon

    • @anxiousearth680
      @anxiousearth680 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@webbowser8834 "Setting aside possibilities for hostage taking" 😂

    • @webbowser8834
      @webbowser8834 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@anxiousearth680 That's actually a real card game term, mostly used for online games when "infinite turn" bugs crop up, allowing one player to keep their turn forever without actually winning the game or giving their opponent the opportunity to win/play. It's exceedingly rare for the term to also preclude the opponent from conceding though.

  • @crows2808
    @crows2808 ปีที่แล้ว +247

    I think Sungwon just likes designing these cards. I don't blame him.

    • @justanobody0
      @justanobody0 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      he's making millions on the baby punchable cow chlidren's backpacks

    • @BlandoGaming
      @BlandoGaming ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@justanobody0I bought 7.

  • @trexdrew
    @trexdrew ปีที่แล้ว +66

    Eventually if we get enough ad skits we can finally make an entire cow deck and maybe someday, know the rules 😂

    • @justanobody0
      @justanobody0 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      only SungWon knows the rules

    • @insensitive919
      @insensitive919 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Just needs a stuffed tiger and some Zorro masks.

  • @filipposerra4208
    @filipposerra4208 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    "Pretend I didn't do that" is said not enough times. Still frickin' hilarious and relatable

  • @blitxaac
    @blitxaac ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I've been saying this for years, PLEASE MAKE THIS A KICKSTARTER PROJECT, I would definitely buy this

  • @gacharizer1372
    @gacharizer1372 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    The card "cow jumped over the moon" was great, but when I saw the King Dragon card (1:32)... KONO POWAAH DA!?!? (Now all we need is an Archibald card (I see my enemies got... the point!)

  • @gabbye165
    @gabbye165 ปีที่แล้ว +179

    Okay but SungWon's characters on cards for a card game is sick

  • @sheenpailovesu7841
    @sheenpailovesu7841 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    ProZD absolutely looks forward to get sponsored by card games just to think about more Cow puns

  • @blackcitadel9
    @blackcitadel9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is why when I'm teaching a new player how to play, we play with all normally hidden information open, and just run through it until the new player has a basic grasp of the rules.
    Then we play for real, though still with some degree of slowness to explain anything they don't understand.

  • @owenmacrowski
    @owenmacrowski ปีที่แล้ว +18

    This was basically my experience when, as a pokemon tcg player, I played a game of mtg for the first time and didnt know I could activate cards on the other persons turn, that is until they activated a card during my turn xD fun times

  • @alexeiharp7676
    @alexeiharp7676 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    I like how the card game producer is using his friends to test all his ideas and proceeds loosing them one by one

  • @imackiemsamich
    @imackiemsamich ปีที่แล้ว +630

    I want this as an actual card game that would be sick

    • @somerandolad
      @somerandolad ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Make it happen, Sing Wang!

    • @justanobody0
      @justanobody0 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      SungWon would destroy us all, we'd all have to forfeit to save ourselves the embarrassment

    • @shmarfle47
      @shmarfle47 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@somerandolad
      *Soonge Win

    • @imackiemsamich
      @imackiemsamich ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@justanobody0 literally the only card game I've played is the pokemon tcg so Id absolutely get rekt

    • @daan6224
      @daan6224 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This has to become a real game, on kickstarter or something. It'd be incredible

  • @shockofthenew
    @shockofthenew ปีที่แล้ว +92

    I can't believe it's 2023 and we're in a renaissance of cow game skits :')
    Congrats on the featured cards Sungwon, they look awesome!

  • @Quartermistress
    @Quartermistress ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love how these cow cards are getting more detailed with each installment.

  • @Kardfogu
    @Kardfogu 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    All these are incredibly accurate of a game I started playing less than a year ago, even the phases, oh my god, are all playing the cow game without knowing!?

  • @Bleuchz
    @Bleuchz ปีที่แล้ว +185

    Sungwon is absolutely slowly starting to nail down the rules to this game

    • @StarboyXL9
      @StarboyXL9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Just like Yugioh

  • @YeetwithSwag
    @YeetwithSwag ปีที่แล้ว +92

    I feel like these card game videos are going to actually become a real game one day

    • @diox8tony
      @diox8tony ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They're not?

    • @engerek666
      @engerek666 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought it was 🤣

  • @Tobeh
    @Tobeh ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I had this happen when I tried to get back into MTG. I had a budget rwu weenies/aura deck and the guy used a tournament ready charbelcher deck for a “friendly match to get back into it”. On turn 2 or 3 he dropped some cards, started looking through his deck and after about 1 minute of wordlessly sorting through his deck, removing cards, putting others on top, etc he looked up and went “oh, you lost btw” and went back to looking through the deck.

  • @goldengriffon
    @goldengriffon 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    And that's just one reason why, after 25 years of Magic, I walked away never to return.

  • @TheAweDude1
    @TheAweDude1 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's always either that or "Okay, this is a card. It is a rectangular piece of cardboard with various things on it. You hold cards in your hands. This is called your 'hand' because it is in your hand."

  • @SilverHyozanryu
    @SilverHyozanryu ปีที่แล้ว +18

    This is actually what it feels like explaining the damage step, missing the timing and summon windows in yugioh.

  • @CygnusTheSilly
    @CygnusTheSilly ปีที่แล้ว +22

    A mooserable little pile of secrets was he funniest thing I've seen in a while

  • @haroerhaktak2613
    @haroerhaktak2613 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The ending hit me hard. When I'm losing hard at a video game and instead of just ending the enemy team just kills me over and over "I STILL GOT MORE KILLS TO DO."

  • @alexchurn8181
    @alexchurn8181 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I really love the phrase "mooserable little pile of secrets" and wish I had more opportunities to use it in casual conversation.

  • @Lorraine202
    @Lorraine202 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The first game of Magic I played with anyone (after learning the rules with my friend) my opponent summoned infinite elves by turn 3 or 4. He said he specifically uses that deck on newcomers.

  • @3slicessenpai
    @3slicessenpai ปีที่แล้ว +67

    One day ProZD is using a PSP as a phone, the next he's getting professional VA roles for games and cameo cards. He's come so far...from yesterday.

  • @ShadowDaPk
    @ShadowDaPk ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Some madman is going to decode all this into an actual working card game.

  • @Snaglbeest
    @Snaglbeest ปีที่แล้ว +15

    That game ended so fast that we didn't even get to the Cheese Tasting Phase™(pending).

  • @andymurray8620
    @andymurray8620 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have been occasionally giving you a watch once in a while over the years; this is my first in a while. And I just had to say, your pun game has grown to new heights. I need a foil TTtF for my Magic deck.

  • @namanmahendra6596
    @namanmahendra6596 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is what happens when you try playing a game with your parents,and your dad tries to explain to you and your mom what pain he's inflicting on you.

  • @victorsousa4055
    @victorsousa4055 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    this feels just like explaining the steps on Yu-Gi-Oh!'s battle phase

  • @dariushcreates
    @dariushcreates ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I know this is unrelated but WELL DONE on your performance for Lackadaisy! What a Pilot that was!!! Amazing!

  • @M_Alexander
    @M_Alexander ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I want this to be a real card game with absolutely no care given to balance or playability

    • @justanobody0
      @justanobody0 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You just gave SungWon the opportunity to play the "I want this to be a real card game with absolutely no care given to balance or playability" card, which means he wins a thousand games in a row

    • @M_Alexander
      @M_Alexander ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@justanobody0 well then I play "Moo-ve on over from the winners circle: Ultimate Fortune Reversal Zero to Hero" which says that if I lose exactly one thousand games in a row I retroactively win those games or a large pizza if it's Thursday

    • @justanobody0
      @justanobody0 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@M_Alexander well since it's Thursday, SungWon would gladly let you have a pizza as long as he maintains his undefeated record

    • @AnEmortalKid
      @AnEmortalKid ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Call it laughing cows or mad cow deceased

  • @Ridlay_
    @Ridlay_ ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The freaking King Dragon card, that's amazing.

  • @EnoVarma
    @EnoVarma หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Third time's the farm." He has so much fun coming up with the puns.

  • @pickyphysicsstudent201
    @pickyphysicsstudent201 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    As a Yugioh fans, this is true. Not because of all the summoning mechanics or 100+ words for card effects but rather all the rulings regarding Problem Solving Card Text (PSCT), Damage Step Rulings, Missing the Timing, Spell Speeds, Simultaneous Effects, Chain Blocking, Priority, etc. It's all very convulated and most of it doesn't make the game more fun as it does just make it orderly.

  • @yurikuki
    @yurikuki ปีที่แล้ว +22

    0:24 mild editing in a Prozd video? Is this a new era?

  • @Evangelion543
    @Evangelion543 ปีที่แล้ว

    Instead of teaching him, he's passive-aggressively destroying him per turn.

  • @mattcgw
    @mattcgw ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This perfect parodys and summerises Yugioh Timeing window's and when you can activate quick effects.
    Like Fairy Tail snow and the resolution of chains.

  • @deraile
    @deraile ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Damn those fully illustrated official cards featuring your characters are super neat! Congrats!

  • @moechannels6355
    @moechannels6355 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I can't believe we are getting new skits! Love your vids!

  • @MJMcKenzie322
    @MJMcKenzie322 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    You nailed your role as Mordecai. NAILED.

  • @VietfreedomGaming
    @VietfreedomGaming ปีที่แล้ว +1

    it would have even crazier if at the end you just have the seasoned player be like "JUDGE HE"S LEAVING IN THE MIDDLE OF MY TURN!!!"

  • @ruijie1961
    @ruijie1961 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The second cores came into play with flash timing, I KNEW it was Battle Spirits! It's such a complicated, yet interesting game.

  • @michel0dy
    @michel0dy ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I had trouble explaining the standby phase in yugioh untill I started naming it "shennanigans phase"
    "It's the shennanigans phase, do you have any shennanigans to activate?"
    "Oh yeah, I have that trap card I set, I'm gonna use it now"

    • @BlandoGaming
      @BlandoGaming ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I love that. Might need to use it as well.

  • @5MadMovieMakers
    @5MadMovieMakers ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Cow-ering about the puns that are over the moon

  • @KozmicPlays
    @KozmicPlays ปีที่แล้ว +4

    CASTLEVANIA TURNED COWS!? Okay these seriously hit new levels every time 10/10

  • @alltheriches
    @alltheriches ปีที่แล้ว

    The play reaction time frame is so real lmao
    “WHEN AM I ALLOWED TO PLAY THIS CARD??”

  • @johndavidthacker
    @johndavidthacker 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is exactly how I felt trying to learn Epic. The punchline is that I won that game and, to this day, I don't understand how or why.

  • @PassengerOnTheMenu
    @PassengerOnTheMenu ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I can't wait for the Continuity Cows spoiler list! The new farm block is gonna be a real barn-bash for standard stampede decks! 🐃🐄

  • @brucelau2023
    @brucelau2023 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Every day we get closer to really finally deciphering the rules of the cow game

    • @justanobody0
      @justanobody0 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it's a risky thing to venture into SunWon's domain

  • @graylinbeaudry4651
    @graylinbeaudry4651 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    as a casual tcg player this is exactly what it is like to play against people at card shops who get way too into the game. also a contributing factor to me quitting tcgs (that and wotc gross treatment of their consumers) but these are my favorite bits, wish i could super like them.

    • @Ryujishida
      @Ryujishida ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I hear you there. I used to play Yugioh casually with my friends. So casually in fact we had just not used the link summon mechanic and all the stuff it came with, because we just didn't like it. When I moved away and couldn't play with them anymore I just couldn't enjoy playing anymore. The game got way too fast for my liking and Magic was too expensive.

    • @LillLizzert
      @LillLizzert ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ryujishida The main reason I quit is that it's so hard to get an even match even in casual settings. I was using a somewhat pure dinowrestler deck. The people that play meta will ofc kick my shins in. Yet before I made that deck, another dude who used to play tournaments back in the day couldn't win against me because his deck was super old. What did I win with? Freaking JURRACS of all things.
      Made me feel like the cards people have matter more then skill at the game. I dislike the duel being won before it even starts, so maybe card games aren't for me.

  • @thanosbig9516
    @thanosbig9516 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just from the title i immediately knew this is sponsored

  • @patriciofloresdifilipo3713
    @patriciofloresdifilipo3713 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    How did no one in the comments get the 1:00 reference from castlevania?

    • @Hanoitami
      @Hanoitami 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      People are too young xD

    • @seansmith877
      @seansmith877 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't recognise that from castlevania.
      Do you just mean the word Dracula? Cause there's thousands of things that use the name Dracula it doesn't mean it's specifically aimed at the one from castlevania unless he says that quote somewhere

    • @Hanoitami
      @Hanoitami หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Google: What is a man? A miserable pile of secrets.
      ;)
      It is a quote from the game symphony of the night. The japanese devs of that game took this quote from André Malraux, but unfortunately did a bad grammatical /translation job.
      The quote is a meme to those old enough to be initiated ;)

    • @patriciofloresdifilipo3713
      @patriciofloresdifilipo3713 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@seansmith877 Obviously you doin't, you played PS3 castlevania, not REAL castlevania.
      PS3 castlevania is a shitshow at best, even Lamment of Innocence (imo not a very good one from ps2) is better.

    • @seansmith877
      @seansmith877 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@patriciofloresdifilipo3713 I haven't played PS3 castlevania dunno why you'd even make a random guess assuming it's correct haha. Is the PS3 one the 3d one

  • @takua1495
    @takua1495 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love how much effort is put into these cards, maybe one day we'll get a full rule set and we can play the cow game at home

  • @MasterArchfiend
    @MasterArchfiend ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This sums up my brother’s reaction when I convinced him to try Yugioh. I even gave myself a handicap by using the same deck he was using in Master Duel, since I have both the experience in years (2002-The day my wraith gets forced into the afterlife) and collection. He just did not draw what he needed and got so frustrated that he hasn’t touched it since.
    I understand where he was coming from as that’s how it felt when I first started playing Magic. It just would be nice if he gave it another shot and played the gates for cards so I can at least play my joke decks against another person that I know.

    • @whoknows4780
      @whoknows4780 ปีที่แล้ว

      I played yugioh when it came out, for several years. Left it. When I came back to play, I chose to stream Master Duel. Me and my millennial friends were all playing together for a while. Then people started coming into my stream and asked to duel. It took a lot of self control to not get visibly furious at how these players could beat me in 1-2 turns while I have little to no knowledge of the advanced mechanics. I stopped streaming it. I’ve gone back to tutorials to learn the new mechanics and I understand them all now. I just don’t like how much it changed the game. It feels rather different

  • @ensuredchaos8098
    @ensuredchaos8098 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I feel like we're getting ever closer to getting an entire cow card game every time one of these videos are released. I'd unironically consider buying it if it became a real thing

  • @chadcat420
    @chadcat420 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He was the squirrel in God of War Rangnarok. Amazing voice 👏

  • @floopymusic
    @floopymusic ปีที่แล้ว

    coincidentally this is also how every fight in jujutsu kaisen goes

  • @dontletmewatchthis
    @dontletmewatchthis ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Imagining myself a fly on the wall listening to SungWon workshopping this out loud in bed at night, keeping his wife awake with cow puns XD

    • @justanobody0
      @justanobody0 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      SungWon probably has a hundred pages fully fleshed out on cow trading card game material

    • @narnia1233
      @narnia1233 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds mooserable.

  • @prestonbyrd8443
    @prestonbyrd8443 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Congrats on the collab!
    I never could get into that game, but I'm glad to see that it didn't just fall into the abyss.

  • @flameofmage1099
    @flameofmage1099 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So relatable. When I was teaching my sibling Digimon my opening hand was godly and I kept getting really lucky with draws while they bricked the entire time only getting one lvl 4

  • @keylappy
    @keylappy ปีที่แล้ว

    "That's incredibly specific" that's the closest statement you going to get teaching new players a unhinged set lol

  • @thetacticianmusician6565
    @thetacticianmusician6565 ปีที่แล้ว

    "I STILL HAVE MORE CARDS TO PLAY" is the cherry on top

  • @doublestarships646
    @doublestarships646 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    This game literally has physics it's so good.