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On today's #EverydayStruggle, Joe Budden and DJ Akademiks broke down Eminem's new single and if they're here for that content from him in 2017.
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*Never thought Joe would ever criticize Eminem*
Frankie Russell hes being honest
Joe has criticized Em a bunch of times and I think that is a part of what happened with him not being connected with Shady much anymore...
Neither I
Frankie Russell this song Blowing Up soundcloud.com/bennett-tran/hurtinallthetime
He's criticizing Eminem because he wants to see the best out of him and so do all of us. Good tough love from Joe. Like he said, "I love Em, I'm very close to him, but this is just garbage".
i agree with Joe about everything but 1 thing. Eminem isn't surrounded by a bunch of musical geniuses, he surrounded by a bunch of yes men and has been for the last 10 years or so
and that's the problem, you got it in one. He's like a post-Beatles Paul McCartney, nobody calling a spade a spade, everybody kising his arse.
+hst9 I think he was referring to Royce, Crooked, Joell and Yelawolf.
kamekakarot nigga said yelawolf lol
@@christophercleary6780 plz dnt speak on hip hop if u use the word arse lmfao
I miss Proof at Em's side. I believe that was the nigga that always kept it 100 w/ Em
facts.. he's probably the only one to stand up to Em.. too many yes men around Em
Facts.. I don't think we wouldve had rock beats.. His blackness went away with Proof. But Kamikaze was a huge bounce back
What happens when Joe gets kicked out the Shady group chat😂
Spartan H 😂😂😂😂
NewNinetys stfu , which UK rapper
NewNinetys no one from UK rates k joke anymore he's washed anyway bruv
Spartan H kmsl
Ak's facial expression on 2:25 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 priceless
People can hate Joe budden all they want but he’s right. The track was trash and it’s sad that he handled it poorly where as Joyner’s “I’m not racist” was handled so well and got he message across clearly.
PoeV2 that’s what I hate too. No one wanted to actually discuss its contents and instead chose to attack one of the sides without even debating things. Like 90% of people I saw had there heads shoved up their ass
BeeleeDatPleighboi 100 Joyner’s song has an impact unlike Ems corny and wack version. Throwing subject aside, the beat selection and overall tone is a cash grab and need for attention
Its because Joyner Lucas is on the come up and hungry. Em got all the success ever possible and this is the result.. The message can be perfect but that’s not the way to deliver it
Thomas G would you really say “impact” ?? It’s been a good solid day or 2 since anyone has really talked about Joyner song. There’s a vid of a black guy destroying Joyner Lucas vid piece by piece. I like the message Joyner was doing but it isn’t really impactful like kendrick name drop.
The difference is the PERSPECTIVE and the LARGER AUDIENCE that Eminem reaches. Aka more. People would here this truth if Eminem discussed his thoughts on it
This is what started the Em and Joe beef hahaha
Justin Turner 😂😂😂😂
I consider myself a huge Stan. Whenever he drops something, I get hype. Loved walk on water, told all my friends to listen to it. This one released and I just stayed mad quiet
Mad respect to joe for speaking the truth on his own label, most would just lie and go along with the trash
this trash. the song. that is trash. woke em is kinda trash too tbh.
Yeah man, Porter, Royce, hell even Paul Rosenberg. All these people around the man, yet no one can be upfront and tell em how shitty this song, let alone album really is. Like you gotta wonder does eminem listen to this album and bob his head. In walk on water he even said he rips his music apart like this shit is garbage. And yeah nigga, this is garbage. Tf was he thinking. Just awful.
exactly
Damon Pontarelli dj whoo kid cough cough
Damon Pontarelli that takes some balls to do
I won’t lie I like old Eminem better. If he could do that old style of being brash and creative with different content that would be cool but I’m not with this new style...
he sounds too corny
Cool. Just don't listen to him. Personally I think he kills it in untouchable and walking on water.
Em has nothing to prove. Period
Exactly ..i realize em ain’t have nothing to prove when he made Groudhod Day
nerdy & tall I'm sorry, I understand that's your opinion, but yo, that shit is objectively Terrible
I don't want "Old Em" I just want better "New Em".
I want to hear to good Eminem not old Eminem
Deus M. The old is 100 time better than the new em
Can’t even lie, I want old Eminem
GOING ON 4 YEARS AGO AND JOE WAS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT ABOUT EVERYTHING HE SAID LOL
Sad but true
@@shefchenko111 happy but wrong
I gotta agree with Joe....someone out there in interscope is fucking this whole thing up.
just make the damn music sound good & replayable. he can be as "woke" as he wants, but if the music isn't enjoyable... i don't care.
This is the best/most real comment about ems new music
Lynn W FUCKING PREACH!!
"This song isn't for you it's for me, a true MC, to see if he still has it" His music is for himself, he does it because he enjoys it and that's his platform and outlet. I don't think he really cares if you think it sounds good and would care if it's replayable. Everyone has different opinions anyways so no matter what he does he'll still get hate. So might as well just do what he wants to do and I think that that's fair, I honestly just enjoy hearing new content from him just hearing his thoughts on songs and his words even if it might not be considered the "best".
Tarek Fawzi that's a lie. He cares or he wouldn't have released walk on water
Lynn W did you like Walk on Water?
Man I have been checking for Joe’s response to this song since the song was released. Exactly what I thought he would say. And yeah, the song is TRASH.
KristinM2288 he should've just enjoyed his retirement, he's really hurting his legacy here, he'll still go down as a legend, but he's leaving a sour taste
Ryan Angeline exactly, he should have left while he was on top
KristinM2288 i agree 100% with joe
the song is really just fucking garbage
Song was fire
Someone take that hat off Joe's head
Simon Adebisi style !
Em said on So Far.. on MMLP2 "They want me to flip at the label, but I won't succumb to it
The pressure, they want me to follow up with
Another one, after Recovery was so highly coveted
But what good is a fuckin' recovery if I fumble it?
'Cause I'ma drop the ball if I don't get a grip" that's exactly what Joe Budden is talking about, because Revival is basically the follow up of Recovery.
Eminem is genius lyrically, but for a while now he makes poor decisions regarding beats and hooks..that Rick Rubin rock music is the weakest link here, not the bars or the message.
Trevor Henry but bro.. this wasnt produced by him. It was one of his friends Mr.Porter
theclanavenger I didn’t know that, but it sounds like a typical old skool rock type Rick Rubin Production, maybe Rick Executive produced it as it’s got the Beastie Boys vibe even the way Em is so animated on it, lyrically it’s like 99 Problems also.
Trevor Henry yeah.. man sometimes i wish he could interact with hand picked fans so he can grasp what our "taste" is today. And then have a high qualified new school producers on his album :) i really dont wanna see him fail because of people around him being yes men or some snakes like Joe implied.
theclanavenger Agreed, I just want him to get back to some dope HipHop beats, he did this on “The Bad Meets Evil” project with Royce...his first 3 albums had great beats also, even Relapse had nice production on it...it’s just too much of the rock stuff and whinny sung choruses or poptastic Skylar Grey hooks, just puts me off...he doesn’t need any of it...He is clearly one of the best rappers to ever do it and he’s already a pop star, he doesn’t need to make corny music to sell..if anything he should be more HipHop than ever.
theclanavenger I agree....hey I'm going to be creating a poll/petition to try and get to his camp. Just maybe we can be heard. Em is doing too much....We all know that he is a virtuoso rapper. We all know that he is of GOAT status. We want the soul back...I think a simple album of him freestyling over some dope freestyle beats would be so dope...so so dope.
Joe is right but this right here confirmed the third Slaughterhouse album will never release
I doubt it was gonna happen anyway. Joe Mine As Well be truthful now lol
Joe is so real and I respect him so much now. I never thought anyone else felt this way. He made some really excellent points. Everything he said i applaud him for it.
damn joe... your "being real" costed you an album
Well i rather be real if that means it will cost me an album. Its called integrity
I have a new respect for joe. I can't believe he admitted it. Blown away
A -nthology The anthology right lol i thought he was kidding at first
A -nthology The anthology he did not even take time to think straight up said it was trash, tbh he is right
A -nthology The anthology your trash
Stuart Romero my trash?
He didnt admit shit he just doesnt know what hes talking about and im not just defending ems music, his shits actually good
I said on FB, he need to stop Rick Rubin at MM2 and get back to Dre and Just Blaze.
Mike Elizondo!
As a stan, can't agree any more
Dre produced the whole of Relapse and Compton was the last thing he released. In case it has been forgotten, Relapse was hot trash, in large part because of the beats, and Compton featured the same pop and indy rock sound that makes Revival such a disaster.
And they did songs with Skylar Grey together, which were the same BS.
Going back to Dre is going to result in more of the same disaster.
Dre has stopped making hip-hop a long time ago.
Someone need to lock him in the studio with dj premier n Dre
GM35964 relapse was trash cuz he had that stupid Indian accent lol
Dj Ak I don't feel like shouldn't call anything trash considering what he listens to.
Bmore24 you're right but this is trash
Doest excuse the fact Eminem fucking trash
you never listened to Eminem then, yes this new album was trash... but The Eminem show was great , marshal mather lp in 2000 was great, and the slim shady lp was dope asf.
Bmore24 t actually nigga I fucking did the only decent Eminem joint he’s ever released was Marshall Mather’s lp Eminem has mostly always been garbage it’s a fucking fact
is that a picture of asap rock? lmao boy knock it off. typical dj ak fan.
0:35 I AM YELLINGGGGGGGGG
'Alright-'
'It's TRASH'
Joe Budden is absolutely CORRECT
this song Blowing Up soundcloud.com/bennett-tran/hurtinallthetime
According to your POV...
Joe is boutta get dropped by Shady Records tomorrow...
Numb S ʞull yup
Eminem probably respects him being real like that
Dude is not signed to an invidual contract. The group slaughterhouse is signed to shady.
Numb S ʞull Nah im dead lol!
I hope so
I just heard 2 new tracks of the Em's leaked album and turned it off because I want to keep my childhood memories intact.
Adi Dhar there are a few “old” em songs that a good
Adi Dhar right
Bro the album was trash.
Only two good songs. Ed Sheeran and Skyler's collabs were the best.
Adi Dhar listen to River & Believe
Adi Dhar good call man, wish I had done the same!!
THROW IT IN RICE
Lmfao
Someone explain this to me?
Stu Pidazzo throw it in the thrash meaning
Album was horrible and I’m a huge em fan
Em shoulda did an album like Jay Z where it is a lot more “grown” speaking on the situation in America from his viewpoint or he could do something like his old style and bash all the shitty shit that’s going on in a America as well as hip hop culture.
Yung Afrika it still would have got called trash no matter what.
Yung Afrika how the fuck do ya know what the albums about, 2 track have only been put out. I know where it looks like it's going but not everything track is going in this direction.
Yung Afrika recovery already was his more mature album
The album leaked. Not bad. Production and flow improvements. Even the pop features sound like they fit but the rick Rubin produced songs are ehh
No one wants to see Eminem rap again though, same with jay z but he had sprint buy a million copies of his album to make it look like people loved it.
Who in the studio with Em allowing in him to put this shit out? Damn I want this project to be good but so far this shit might be worse than MMLP2.
Yung Afrika ems only good albums was the Eminem show and recovery, the rest was corny. Yes including mmlp!
Recovery good and the other corny what are you smoking
slim shady recovery Eminem rapped! Without slitting his mother throat. He didn't put on a corny accent, he didn't make fart noises. He rapped... Some of his best.. Nothing corny about recovery, everybody said that was his best album until every radio station played the fuck out of it and everyone hated it after that.
Nathan the intro, drug ballad, all the skits, amityville, real slim shady, remember me, was all corny 'that's just the top of my head, I don't remember any corny shit on recovery tho, most of the songs had a topic. Eminem show was his best album and only full Hip hop album.. Beats and bars.
why didnt he put out songs like freaking no love bad guy stan drop the world freaking medicine man all those
When I heard that "side of yooooooou!" I was like oh no 😬
Joe was right, untouchable is trash 😂
*Im sick of politics in everything*
Ilrbn I feel you.
Everything is political because america is slow.
Impending Doom america is the best
bhips ahoy not anymore cause goodbye net neutrality
bhips ahoy Best at being behind at everything out of all developed nations.
joe spittin straight fax, respect the honesty lmao
W
That's because Em ain't paying him much.
I heard Revival and it DOES NOT have the same tone and sound as untouchable so y'all can breathe
Bill Cosby it’s not all that good tho. Some is iight.
Untouchable is the worst song on the album. But even so the album wasn't brilliant.
Ben Sullivan that Pink song is by far the worst song on there. Probably the worst of the year
Hah like were trusting you Bill Cosby, HEY WHATS THAT IN MY DRINK!?
Bill Cosby the album it's still trash tho
You couldn't pay me to PUBLICLY shit on someone who looked out for me. If you don't like the Album, say no comment and keep it moving. That's called LOYALTY.
Lewis Humblecash U got it all wrong playa
HELLCAT WOO paint a different picture for me
You don’t know much about em do you. He hates yes men and surrounds himself with people who let him know how it is so he can stay grounded. It’s hard to know if somethings good or not if everyone tells you everything you do and say is fucking amazing.
Lol so you a yes man? At least tell em in private
Then you fake and ni66as like you who won't call out bullshit are the worst type of ni66a
I don't care what you want to call it, just make a good damn album, stop screaming so much, and put more time into the music. That's all I want from Em.
The Cassius Morris Show yea but his last album was caca 💩
Rick Harding exactly
What'd you think of his newest
first walk on water and now this...ugh, this shit might be really bad
berzerk and survival were pretty weak off MMLP2
I think we just need to wait to hear it in full
I think it'll be a pretty decent project
xTRANSPARENTxBODYBAGZx / only good song on that whole album was bad guy. Recovery had cold wind blows changes
ernie valencia you're TRIPPIN
THERE WAS BAD GUY, RHYME OR REASON, RAP GOD, BRAINLESS, EVIL TWIN, SO MUCH BETTER, BABY, WICKED WAYS, andGROUNDHOG DAY
Strongest tracks on there
Salute to you Joe! Been waiting for you to stop being PC about this situation...much respect
Eminem continues to disappoint. He should have retired after 2003
Track was straight poop. Everything Joe said was on point
YungCuck I agree he needs to get off that Rick Rubin train and just create
*I just wanna hear Eminem*
Agreed.
Damn. Some real shit low key. And it breaks my heart as an Eminem fan.
He looks so pissed lmao
Eminem will forever be a legend ..His spot in hip hop will forever be reserved. Joe Budden i respect you for your honesty but as a friend you could have called him and told him this instead of talking shit on your show . Regardless of how y’all feel eminem fans know that he will let the mic go when he decides . That’s what made eminem EMINEM. Him not giving a fuck and speaking his mind. He will forever be remembered as one of the greatest MC’s to ever live stop trying to take away from his legacy . Y’all call his shit trash while blasting all the nonsense that’s playing today . Respect the rap god
Pop Stop nobody is disregarding his legacy dummy . He is just dropping complete dumpster juice from a sonical standpoint . Eminem has fallen off and it is as simple as that lol .. Still a wordsmith but that alone is never enough to make good music .
IH-the99 tell me what has he dropped that’s dumpster juice bitch? So songs like Kings never die , die alone , all i think about, raw, he’s literally trying to please y’all dumb ass fans but all you do is follow the “ let’s hate em band wagon “ bitch he will still out rap your favorite rapper any day
Em will never make good music again unless he gets rid of the yes men around him. this is good Joe did this because if someone you feel is that close to you say its garbage then you might step your game up. especially putting it out to the public like Joe has. Hes not disrespecting him or his legacy. i think Em is the best lyricist ever but his last 3 albums been trash.
Kendrick better
💯💯
I just want some mo Slim Shady
Sha he ain't been the same since 2002 :(
Sha he’s said it for himself tho, the anger isn’t there anymore.
Nick M that is at least until this happened
framed
Damn this almost made me tear up it was so real, I can tell it was hard to say cuz it was hard to listen as a hardcore Eminem fan
2:25 that Akademiks sigh/grunt is exactly how I feel about the roll out of Revival. Listening to the album today, wish me luck.
i think it's rick rubin is up to this
Jeremiah Akinsowon no shit
agreed he already ruined linkin park
Rick Rubin is to blame for all the bad Rock and Roll type beats which sound terrible and trashy...
dude keep up this was two weeks ago keep up
IM SCARED I HOPE ITS GOOD
Salute to Joe for keeping it 100
Zain B, 200%
Fuck Joe
Funny how this is the clip ppl are mad at Joe for
Zain B your something else
It grew on me. I can't hate on it when he's spitting those dope rhymes and delivering such a great message. I'm sure most of the album isn't gonna sound like this sonically so it'll be good
Pushas Untouchable>>>
Sanjay Demali that song is 🔥🔥
yooo i was waiting for someone to bring this up lol you a mvp for that.. song is mad underrated
Sanjay Demali truuu
Slaughterhouse album never dropping now
they can not do anything without the eminem
z9ize lol yup
Anyone know what's up with Slaughterhouse?
This a OG call from Joe
I been feeling the same way
Funny how someone raps about things that really matter and call there album trash 🙄 I took Joe’s word for it then regretted it after actually listening to Eminem’s album.
David Simon it still has to be good music tho. A message alone doesn't make art good
Aiden Wood it is good music though
Rosé Black maybe to you but the majority seem to disagree
David Simon none of that shit matters it's all fake news
2Keen To give a what Oh and rapping about a Gucci bag matters? That Rolex ? Selling dope? And that’s stupid fake news has become fake news. Now whenever there’s a truth to light all a dumbass has to do is say is “fake news” to make it seem like it’s fake news bunch of snowflakes. Which is why I don’t watch the media.
I love Eminem he's one of my favorite artist he's made some straight classic songs but 100% agree with Joe and respect to him for standing up to em even tho hes definitely in some way signed under him and affiliated with em he still said exactly what the fuck he thought regardless. That shit is ballsy. And yeah that song was fucking trash it sounds racist and has a lame vibe to it just like all Eminems new music. Recovery was Eminem's last good album.
I just want to hear Eminem period
When the beat switches, it's pretty dope...
I'm a big Em fan and Joe Budden fan. Joe's take on it was as real and passionate as it gets.
How come nobody talks about the rest of the song, the 3rd verse was fire, i agree that for a song to be good you have to enjoy at least all verses not hooks, but in this case only the 3rd verse is good so i get why the hate, but come on man, yall are going way to hard and no one talks about the good part of the song..
word
keep it 100 the whole song was garbage
DDDOOO UUURRR echo, welcome 2 hell, the 12 min freestyle, raw all i think about, i actually lovr almost everything from em but this song i hate the beginning in wich he is joking
Bhut Joloki Come on i agree that he sounda bad in the white boy part, but that 2nd beat and lyrical genius had me dead bruh, one thing i admit, i only ever hear the black guy part
DDDOOO UUURRR and yeah he is so terrible that no one can out rap him to this day
*_“ITS TRASH”_* Lmao
Eminem. No matter what man. You'll always be my all time fav in Rap. Always. Because of the respect i have for you because of you do and did. Plus your a GREAT rapper.
Joe Budden's pissed face with all the christmas stuff in the background is priceless.
I been saying this since i saw the BET freestyle I felt that he bandwagon on the racial problems that's happening to sell records...and i love eminem i been a fan since the first album but this new shit is not a good look....and the track isn't trash but it don't feel right Just my opinion.
KABLE A.K.A BANDAGES i could not agree more. Those new tracks are not trash, they are just meh. I Think we all just expected Way more
KABLE A.K.A BANDAGES bandwagon indeed
Revival leaked yesterday, I️ heard it and there’s only two political songs. Eminem goes raw on the album. He dons the killer murdering women shady flow on a Song or two. Castle is a letter to Halie. I’m the Stan format and it surpasses Stan. There’s so many songs where he has different feel. There isn’t 6 pop songs. You have all the different styles in the Album. It was great after “Revival(interlude)” eminem talks about his life and him almost dying. Album was sensation Revival shows eminem is still the greatest
Y2JNPLIKEABOSS ok good to know I'm gonna check it
MmLP was not a classic album. Eminems classic album is The Eminem Show. It's his only full Hip hop album.. No cornyness apart from the first single. Recovery was solid too
More2Life MMLP was his highest selling album so the numbers beg to differ. MMLP was corny, but not so corny it was unplayable like most of relapse.
More2Life you are drunk sir
“It’s trash” didn’t even hesitate 😂😂😂
I love this from Joe!! I’ve wanted it 100 times!
Man, cant wait for DEHH's review to the album when it comes out.
Myke is gonna first off say why the fuck is walk on water the first track on the album. It should not be there at all.
haha yup. Feefo will say it bumps in the whip. Ken will hate it, and other (his name escapes me for some reason) wont like it either.
2017 Joe Budden: I don't care if the content is good, song is trash. Eminem will always provide great content.
2018 Joe Budden: I'm a content nigga, Em hasn't said shit for a whole decade. He's rhymed a bunch of words and said nothing.
THANK YOU.
He probably lied in 2017 out of respect. (I am not agreeing or disagreeing with the statement though)
He said "handler" .. control type terms. Joe knows 💯💯
I've heard the album top to bottom, I think it's actually pretty good. Granted it's not Em's best work what I do appreciate is Joe's straight up honesty on what he thinks about these 2 songs despite being who he is in relation to Eminem.
2nd part of the song was cool.
It wasn't really good either
Marcus J cool is not dope
Marcus J It was dope
I didn’t make it that far.
I thought it was dope better than walk on water
Can we just not judge ems new album based off of 2 songs. Dude is a legend. Don’t underestimate em
Those two songs are supposed to be one of his main hits of the album. So far 0-2. He has 7 features on the album with mostly pop artists. Not looking good honestly.
Eminem has not released a great album in more than 10 years
TheDiamondMafia MMLP2 was a strong album. I'd actually say it was quite good. But not great.
0:56 Why does he looks like he's gonna cry at any minutes LOOOOL 😥😂😂
REAL TALK
This was real, Joe knows whats up !
em just woke. #kamikaze
Joe budden: we are similar
Eminem: But I wrote stan...
maybie em is just enjoying being an underdog again haha! justs maybie!
The song just SOUNDS bad. Point. Blank. Period
Susan Munywoki thank you. Sure great with a message in a song but at the end of the day we aint watching politics. We listening to music and I sure as hell wouldn’t go so far to call this music.
Zigge Stardust Bruh y'all probably bump lil Uzi or lil pump bro least he not saying the same shit over n over n over
You know he talks about white boys to
lil pump's music is entertainment. its mindless but it at least meets that requirement, its entertaining. all this woke eminem bullshit is not entertaining. even if he is lyrically more sophisticated if it doesnt entertain me its not doing his job. I liked when Eminem was just rapping about killing kim and saying fuck bush n stuff. he wasnt a posterboy for woke whitness he had like severe problems that you couldnt really get away with speaking on now. but it was real abd it was entertaining.
I bet it's cause you're black so you're triggered some of the first lyrics are "black boy black boy" like admit it, you know your fucking red flags went up like "let's start another black lives matter movement"
Hell no that album is 🔥🔥🔥 I just listened to the whole thing earlier
Damn, Budden Poppin' Off 💣💥
“Throw it in rice🤣
Like most good things in life. Its not what you necessarily want, it's just what you need. Its What this country needs. He ain't making this ish for black people, he's definitely talking to his white audience. He's doing what white people have to do to help end racism. Not kissing up to black people but engaging his own community. He's an artist and painted the picture he wanted to. If you don't like it suck an egg, I'm sure this album helps place his soul at ease, and peace of mind is priceless. Positivity never sells to much in this nihilistic society anyway. Do ya thing em. Black people stop acting like y'all was copping and supporting him like that anyway. Y'all opinion invalid kinda. The man s fan base is mainly white let's not pretend.
You are one of the few who actually get it.
Joe needs to collab with shady and reform slaughterhouse to KILL the migos.
XhibitioN TV he doesn't need all that to diss some wack mumble trash rappers
Sub Zero yeah but no matter what joe says these mainstream fans will say it’s trash or corny .
I sympathize with Eminem fans who don't like rock music since your gut reaction will be to dislike any of his rock-influenced songs, but that shouldn't be conflated with the song itself being bad. I love this song and enjoy how Em contrasted the rock beat for the cop's perspective with the more traditional hip hop beat for the perspective of black Americans.
This why I love Budden
When you hear the first 20 seconds it sounds like em is about to go off.
Oh well
Nobody yeah it sounds insane and then the song starts and.......
Em diss track in one, two…
Throw it in rain understatement
bring it back!!! we miss joe
I can't help but agree. I haven't really been into an Eminem album since Relapse, and even that is classed as a mediocre album. I only really like it cos it's just rappity rap on some real hip-hop beats. But what came before that album? Encore? Another pretty bad album, that i only like in parts because it's rather funny and has comedic value. So what, near 15 years since a solid album? If Em wasn't as technically gifted lyrically as he is, he would have no claim to GOAT status whatsoever it seems. If it wasn't for him being able to do verbal acrobatics the way he does and rap circles around the majority of MC's, mainstream or underground, he wouldn't be mentioned. The MUSIC is bad.
Poor beat selection (since Relapse, consistently!) Stop working with these out of touch producers like Rick Rubin (who i don't think was ever that great anyway). The beats are just like, NOTHING. Don't fit anywhere. They aren't boom bap, they aren't trap, they aren't that Detroit soul sound, hell they aren't even pop.
Flow isn't smooth, sure he's rhyming his arse off with clever lines and such, but i can't bob my head along to it, it's all choppy and not one with the beat.
Whats he doing with his voice? He's either shouting one moment or sounding like he's speaking through his nose the next. Rap like you did on The Eminem Show. No high pitch gimmick, no shouting, just your actual voice...doesn't seem difficult.
Features. Jesus, get slaughterhouse on a feature. Get Dre. Get 50 and maybe even the rest of G-Unit. Fuck even get Drake. Get a beat from Kanye. Work with J Cole, he idolised you! A studio session with you and him would surely produce some magic. Get a motherfucking J Dilla beat ffs!
But nah, Em always sounds out of place when he hops on tracks with others now, he just doesn't fit. I don't know...
Sicarius Angelus
Em has always had the problem white people have in rap. Too technical but no sense of musicality or soul.
That's why his music hasn't aged. He was never that good to begin with outside of being a stellar wordsmith
Richie Biz Which white rapper has great musicality or soul? I agree with you somewhat, but why are their so many soulful white singers and it seems that the white rappers aren't as soulful?
Anthony Celestin
Because rap is harder since it's less musical
Richie Buz What I realize is that hip hop/rap now is getting more melodic. The top rapper now Kendrick Lamar is singing more and rapping less, this is evident in Damn, I feel like Damn lyrically is more simplistic and Kendrick is singing/harmonizing more compared to GKMC and TPAB. Kendrick use to switch up his cadence and voice a lot before, but for some reason I noticed Kendrick singing more now. Rap has a reputation of being less musical because its usually all about the lyrics and the music isnt as important. I feel like before 2014, if u were a big/popular rapper your singles would usually have a song that has a catchy hook and sometimes the raps can be simplistic, but the actual albums had all rapping.
Look at Lil Wayne Carter 3, his hit single had "Lollipop" but if u look at his actual album Wayne is just rapping, same thing wit Ti Paper Trail his hit single before it was released was him singing which was "Whatever u Like" but the whole album Ti is rapping. Back in the 90s, Biggie had "Hypnotize" and Big Pun "Dont want to be a Player no More" where theres a catchy hook and beat but despite that their still rapping their ass off. It seemed that after 2013 rap changed a lot. In 2014, rappers werent doing anything and sales were declining, the only thing that was popping was R&B artist and rappers singing and rapping over DJ Mustard which hip hop starting shifting towards more party music.
And in 2015-2017, theres this trap/mumble rap/new age party rap craze where rappers are using a lot of triplet flows, autotune, and slurring and mumbling the words, the basis of rap are words and now hip hop shifting to more melody and now its accepted for words to not be important which contradicts the basis of hip hop being all about the words. Maybe Eminem is falling behind the times as hes getting older and him rapping over a Beastie Boys time of sound is dated. I dont think only Eminem has this issue, many older black rappers and some younger have a harder time adapting. I agree wit u dat rap can be harder to do since it is less musical, but if u look at the landscape of rap music now that doesnt seem to be the case.
Sicarius Angelus Em actually is on beat. It’s a shadow box flow. He flows on downbeats. He does it on no favors and songs like right for me and a lot of the mmlp2. It’s intentional and it’s next level
We don't want shitty pop features on his album. We want the old shit, where he dissed everybody, and didn't give a single fuck
PREACH JOE!!!!!
Slim please come back. We miss you
Did anyone listen long enough to hear the second part of the song?!?!?!?!?
Rene Mendez like don't get me wrong I thought it was trash up until the beat changed then I'm like oh shit so I relistened to the first part and I appreciate the more too like Eminem is a genius
I did, but what's the point if you're not doing anything to grab the attention of the listeners. The only reason, and the only reason I listened as far as I did is because it's Eminem, but if you ask me, if half of the track is trash, then so is the whole thing.
James Young yeah like that makes any sense.....you clearly missed he's purpose for having the beginning sound like that!! The first part mirrors the perspective of a white person and the second part mirrors that of a black person just so happens that white people music is trash🤷🏾♂️
Edley Raymond My thoughts exactly. The two parts are important to each other... The first part gives the second part more meaning. Without it, the second part would be out of place. Maybe because I like rock, the first part grew on me and became catchy.
But then again, to each his own
yeah. Still trash.
I don't want an Eminem that will have an album full of generic political talking points that are only news for those living under a rock. Judging by the single he put out, no unique viewpoints will be shown on the album though I hope I'm wrong.
Others already said it, but MAAAAD props to Joe. Em is essentially his boss, yet it doesn't stop him from speaking his mind and keeping it real. People talk shit, but Joe IS that dude who always keeps it in perspective
thank you joe budden