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- On today's episode of #EverydayStruggle, Joe Budden, DJ Akademiks, and Nadeska continued the classic albums discussion and focused in on Kanye West and Jay Z. Who has more classics?
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akademics the chorus, joe the verses and nadeska in the back there like some adlibs
W
Randumb Fockery as soon as I read this she in the background sayin "Lets get it. Lets get it" 😂😂😂
Randumb Fockery Classic
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ballindj96 😂😂😂 swear
Him saying runaway isn't good hurt my soul
Runaway is wack. That's the only song I skip on the album.
What...runaway is awesome
I thought it was over produced *Kanye shrug*
ogbobbywhite he didn't say that watch again
'IS LOST IN THE WORLD ON A CLASSIC ALBUM?' I genuinely need to lie down. I'm hoping he comes out on twitter and says it was a joke.
Joe's blood pressure is over 9000
636 Productions it's over 808
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@papayasmith 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Series should be titled Nedeska's Everyday Struggle
Junior Nyakundi the most accurate comment ive seen all day
Lol good one she be so stressed.
Junior Nyakundi Hold this W, take a stand
fr😂😂😂😂😂
Junior Nyakundi SOUNDS LIKE THE NAME OF A SHOW ON THE DISNEY CHANNEL 😂😂
funny cause some of jay-z's classics are cause of kanye's production
honestly jay is kinda wack to me. i fuck with his music. but that whole mob persona is little tired
@@Wediharakat It's not tired when it's true.
did jay sell crack? yeah
was he behind a desk in a tux with a cigar speaking italian?
on god
Just the Blueprint
Joe Budden is hilarious, but he's dead wrong on this. MBDTF is hands down a classic
FACTS.
Original what makes you say that
What was so impactful about MBDTF?
Abhishek Nair It dissected the dangers of being rich and famous by talking endlessly about how cool it was to be rich and famous before bringing everything down. Forget rap, that kind of vision is impactful for art period. Also, it’s a rock opera in rap form, which opened up all sorts of grand musical possibilities for new artists.
TheGooseinator I heard the whole album in it's entirety recently man and I gotta admit it is Kanye’s second best album till date after Late Registration to me.
Nadeska bout 10 episodes away from snapping, fam.
Brian Leguizamon lol right
Brian Leguizamon 20:25 is the seed planted.
Oh so that's her name lol
Larissa Ramos anything particular I needa see there?
Larissa Ramos litty tiddy
lmao you can't watch Joe speak without getting some type of anxiety...
Shamon Gaston LMAO you're so right!
Shamon Gaston facts
😂 true as FUCK
Shamon Gaston he makes my blood pressure go up just from watching him
Shamon Gaston 😂😂😂
A classic album is an album that stands the test of time. It is an album that is innovative and impactful that stands the test of time. Aundre is way different from Kanye West. Aundre was actually singing on his albums like a little blues boy. Kanye actually took the autotune of a vocoder and synthesizers and made it into a trend. He made it melodic and cool. He also illustrated animations and creative imagery into his videos where it seemed like an event. People like Drake started to follow that and all these trap rappers are doing it too. Brysen Tiller too. Kanye did that long video for over an hour for dark twisted fantasy and made it into a movie like Beyonce is doing now. Alot of things Kanye did are ahead of its time. Kanye rarely showed his face on his albums and now Jay-Z and Drake are doing that. I agree with Dj Akademics but in my opinion Kanye has more then 4. He has 5. I still bump to 808.
well said
Technically didn’t that start with T-Pain and Wayne before Kanye the whole auto tune?🤔
Greatnes2009 Yeah, Kanye popularized it and inspired others. T-Pain won’t be remembered in the next decade.
Peter M You are insane T-Pain popularized it and inspired it we will always remember him maybe not you new age people that like this trash from today but for us who know and acknowledge it T-Pain will always get his props
Idk why joe acted surprised when they said Kanye has 4-5 classics. Kanye has the best discography in all of hip hop, maybe even all of music.
when he went down the tracklist of MBDTF I was like Got Damm that Shit Classic!!!! got Damn
You know Joe lost when he had to stop him at Runaway bc he could see he'd be at the end of the album having agreed all that shit was 🔥 🔥 🔥 When Runaway is your 'not a classic track' you're bankrupt of everything but Ls.
Yea
I know he did not just say Runaway was a wack song.........I better be FUCKING SLEEP CUZ I'M TRIGGERED RIGHT NOW.
Swirly7! Facts I'm gonna listen to it right now just because. After that I had to put Kanye over Whitney and Mariah Carey in terms of singing
They way he said it clearly shows that he doesn't think it's a good song. If not, he really shouldn't have been influenced by other people's opinion since it's one of the best songs he ever wrote.
Fav Kanye song of all-time.
FEEL YOU. Probably favorite song on the album. The emotions man... , pusha and the last 2 minutes OMG.
Am I the only one who hums with it ?
I don't like Kanye singing.Pusha's verse is awesome though.
This debate is classic
Facts 😂 I watch this every month
This comment is classic 😂😂
@@zackdaoui yall are classic
@@zeon_cipher5799 that reply was classic
Joe gonna mention Kanye red outfit while wearing an all grey nursing home outfit
Marcos Garcia 😂😂😂
Marcos Garcia rudeeeee😂😂😂😂
Live love asap u gotta be playing it's his best work c mon now
MBDTF Is 100% a classic what the fuck
Adam 1 yo mamma
It's a good record, not a classic
Junie Gyllenhaal no it's definitely a classic. The album was incredible
Adam 1 lmao the last 3 songs were garbage, and all of the lights was trash. Plus......he don't write raps
Junie Gyllenhaal you did not just say All of the Lights, Blame Game, and Lost in the World are garbage 😂 plus Who will Survive in America was more of an outro than anything
MBDTF is undisputed, hands down, not even an argument, CLASSIC lol why is this a question?
Nah all of the lights, lost in the world,who will survive in America, blame game and hell of a life are pretty meh
XXXANADU 22 lol
XXXANADU 22 they are all pretty shit songs
XXXANADU 22 lol you have wack ass taste
@@jyetaylor6898 You have wack taste, you can't even listen to anything melodic and/or creative.
"I was like 9 bro"- Akademiks 😂😂💀💀
Literally, enough said hahaha
Vibez Aka is pathetic b, im younger than he is, and I relate heavily on the late 90s and early 2000s and mid 2000s rap songs I heard growing up.
Its not that he didnt relate or here the songs its just that he didn't physically walk into stores and purchase full albums at age nine. niether did I it was all the radio and what our parents bought us
Mr_CRaYCRaY If the music was good then, you would be able to remember at least where you was when you heard it or what you was doing or something like that.
Joe's loud as fuck
I know I cant even watch this shit at work half the time lol
+Heelin Off24/7
maybe you should be working
boy if you watchin this shit in work to begin with it's because your job shit and you can watch it in work either way
Antonio Brown maybe you should be twerking
MBDTF is a classic. Now I get what Joe is saying, we dont want to call all an artists albums classics, but we cant punnish an Artist for making classics by saying they are only allowed 2 or 3 albums to be called classics.
Kanye made 4-5 classic albums and thats a fact. He did it and we cant take that away.
Now with that said, Joe is wack for saying MBDTF isnt a classic. to some people its his best album, people who dont listen to rap or hip-hop would call it one of the best albums in any genre, I even know people who listen to only Opera and Classical music and would rate it among the best pieces of art period.
I'd felt Akademiks pain when Joe rejected "Blame Game" Lmfao..
yea this is a good point why can't an artist have a lot of classics
College dropout classic
late registration classic
graduation classic
808s classic
mbdtf classic
yeezus its either a classic right now or its going to be
tlop same as yeezus
ye great album not classic
ksg classic collab
@@tomsylvester3965 tlop and yeezus have classics but aren't classics, although tlop is a classic to me
Ye is a classic to mentally unstable ppl
@@Ashish-xm9ol you have to look at public perception and to a lot of the public yeezus and tlop have grown on people and become classics
Tom Sylvester aye you gotta add watch the throne to that list which is imo a classic
Poor nedeska, has no voice in these conversations lmao
She's technically just a moderator, so that's why she doesn't.
Billy Lynch idk why people don't get that. lol that's like saying the moderator at a presidential debate doesn't have a voice... he/she is not supposed to be talking much. Purely moving the conversation.
Chunky Rexx thats exactly what i said
akademiks low-key tryna smash so he give her lil a chance sometimes... Wish I'd hear her voice too
sooooo because its not the best Ye album it ain't a classic? it's not Kanyes fault all his albums are such high quality. Joe be bugging
Technically it is his fault lol, but I see what you sayin
In time, every Kanye album will be considered a classic
possible... not yeezus tho lol at least imo
Gavin Ayotte yeezus is better than graduation but not a classic
@@carterpayte9463 its gon be a classic. It is not fuckin better than graduation.
@@yahleeldabi5202 1. mbdtf 2. lr 3. tcd 4. yeezus 5. grad 6. tlop 7. 808's 8. jik 9. ye
@@slobonmyfilmsnob Yeezus already a classic
Kanye is a musical genius.
MrThuglife404 nobody thinks kanyes a genius for his lyrics. Its his production
Also, no he didn't. Many people help him and he credits people even if their input is minuscule. He does not have ghost writers.
Nick Wiley he has good lyrics tho
It’s not called a ghost writer if he’s open about it
Xan Frank you clearly don’t know what a ghostwriter is
Late registration, college dropout, graduation, twisted fantasy. All classics. Simple as that
Fan4ManUnited W
Ultralight beam is a classic song
Fan4ManUnited my nigga
yeesus up there too
Fan4ManUnited L
Kanye easily has 5 classic albums. Then he has 3 great albums (YES BITCH, YEEZUS WAS A GREAT ALBUM)
You may like the guy or not, every album he's ever dropped has changed the sound of an entire future generation. No relevant artist today can say he/she hasn't been influenced by a Ye album. For example:
- Chance The Rapper/Kendrick Lamar/Childish Gambino: College Dropout/Late Registration/MBDTF
- Drake: 808s
- Travi$ Scott/A$ap/The Weeknd: 808s/Yeezus
- Tyler The Creator/Childish Gambino: College Dropout/Late Registration/MBDTF
- Frank Ocean: MBDTF
I can go on and on with this... Kanye ACTUALLY IS top 5 most influential of ALL TIME and NUMBER ONE for this generation. In my opinion...
ThirdStrike II stfu bitch
100% facts!
Facts
Kanye = fuckin goat 🐐
Yeezus was ahead of its time
Runaway is one of the best rap songs of all time.
Runaway alone is better than most Albums
THANK YOU!!
No it’s not. It’s really not.
nah
Nahhhh
In time every Kanye album will be a classic 🙌🏼
it's inevitable
Yeezus was trash
NYYOSU2 nigga you stupid
SAME WITH HOV FRFR LIKE DEADASS IF YOU THINK ABOUT HOW MANY GEMS HE DROPS IN EVERY ALBUM WHEN HE DROPPED THE ALBUM HOW HE DROPPED THE ALBUM THE PRODUCERS ON THE ALBUM THE TRENDS HE KILLS/STARTS THE WAY HIS WORDS GET PEOPLES IN THEY FEELINGS/OPINIONS HOW HE SHAKES THE INDUSTRY AND HOW HE SHIFTS THE CULTURE FORWARD AND IM A HUGE KANYE FAN BUT HOVS WORDS SPEAKS VOLUMES TO ALOT OF PEOPLE..
NYYOSU2 yeezus wasn’t trash
The first minute of runaway is better than anything joe has and will ever put out in his career.
He can play the first note of runaway & the crowd goes crazy lol
True
thats not saying muc though LMFAOO
Kanye West have 4 classic albums
1. College Dropout
2. Late Registration
3. Graduated
4.My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
808s & Heartbreak
@- Cdawgg - I love TLOP but it's way too inconsistent to be called a classic album.
Mbdtf is better than graduation
@@Khalid1600 it’s a playlist of his previous sounds prior to that album
@@M360-w6o again I love TLOP, it's literally my third favorite Kanye album, but my point still stands, the album is messy, and I understand what led to being what it is today. Personally I don't think it's a classic, but maybe in the future I'll agree.
Lol. Yeezy on a mountain scratching his balls chilling
lmao
Kanye > Jay-Z
Ya Man Brandon Tyler straight up facts nigga
Nah. I love Kanye but nah
Merely as "artist", yes. But Jay is a better emcee.
Unwavering Pundit never jay lowkey sucks
Jay has better punchlines, and he is known for his one liners,. Those qualities are among many others desired to be an "ideal MC". Jay does tick a lot of those boxes.
This is like the First Take of Hip Hop lmao. Just waiting for Stephen A. to pop out somewhere.
Jaden Hescht yoooo i was thinking the same dam thing 😂😂
"This is blasphemous" in Stephen A. Smith voice
BlackSantana.
Most accurate thing ive ever heard these takes get just as BLASPHEMOUS
Stephen A voice - you're wrong and heres why
Kanye hands down.
Rumour has it Fantano was in that set smiling the whole time.
Hopefully Kanye watch this at the mountain top and makes fire. This show is getting more watchable too s/o to Joe for coming around big ups
I find ndeska more attractive as these shows progress.
LionPeltLoinCloth you gotta stare at her the right way but I feel you bro😂😂
He’s tripping if he doesn’t think MBDTF is a classic.
JAYZ classics:
1. Blueprint (Prod. by Kanye West)
2. The Black Album (Prod. by Kanye West)
3. Reasonable Doubt
Kanye West Classics:
1. The College Dropout
2. My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
3. Graduation
4. Late Registration
Jonathan Gomez Volume 2 hard knock life,Dynasty,American Gangster
American Gangsta....
American Gangster is a good album. But not a classic. There is a difference. No one really talks about American Gangster like Jays classics.
Yes, Hard Knock life Vol 2.
ppl sleep on that album....It was one of the most cohesive albums hov put together.
MBDTF is kanye at his highest quality. He rapped better on that album than any other album he has put out. Also it was his best produced album as well.
you could say the same about late registration
He actually rapped the best on Late Registration but twisted fantasy was his best produced album
A classic album is TIMELESS. You can’t knock an artist for being great. By Joe’s definition, no one artist could ever have more than 2-3 classic albums
hahahaha "the 700 Joe Budden fans"
" sonically" "sonically" sonically
SONIC THE FUCKING HEDGEHOG
7:41
Nadeska: we're only talking about 2007-2017
Joe: so Kanye has 4 classic albums
Wale hurt AF right now. Nigga work his tail off and nobody mentions him among classics. lol
MoRico27 😂😂
facts 😂
MoRico27 Ambition, def' Attention Deficit, Album About Nothing are classics of Wale. I swear, if Wale dies, stupid haters and motherfuckers gonna start opening their ears and realize how much of an emcee Wale is. Its sad, Wale is one of few black mainstream under rated rappers who tries to follow in 2pac's footsteps. Wale is Nigerian, he studied his history if he raps about the system, and his race's history, people can say Pac and Wale are somewhat similar. The song Black is Gold, nigga, thats lowkey the modern day Keep Ya Head Up, BUT NOBODY KNOWS THAT SONG BECAUSE MOTHERFUCKERS LIKE DJ AKADEMIKS DONT KNOW SHIT ABOUT WALE. (In my Joe Budden angry, yelling voice)
MoRico27 he trash
Benjamin Penney He ass cheeks.
I am leaning more toward Joe's argument for what a classic is.
It seems that a classic album can
1. help the listener, though the music, re-imagine the time in which it was created
2. presenting the music in a unique way, conceptually, as a body of work, and at times pushing boundaries of genre
3. very high replay value years later
WrightMind Designs totally agree
Jazmine Johnson That's basically MBDTF
Spencer Dye why are you telling me this?
WrightMind Designs in that case 808s was more of a classic than most ye albums. 808s made everybody feel things that they never got from a rap album with a sound that impacted culture in everybody thats doing things now
WrightMind Designs I don't think it should be a classic yet, It's only been 7 years
Kanye has more classics
That's a damn joke
@@JCR1992 jay has 4 kanye 5
1. Reasonable Doubt
2. Vol. 2 (Maybe)
3. Blueprint
4. Black Album
5. American Gangster (Maybe)
6. 4:44
Kanye
1. College Dropout
2. Late Registration
3. Graduation (Maybe)
4. MBDTF (Maybe)
JCR1992 4:44 not a maybe? Idk how that’s a classic am I missing something?
Will Well how old are you? Not dissing you either but some younger people didn’t fuck with it because of the subject matter.
10:13 "THAT'S HOW CLASSICS GO DICKFACE" so true
swear i thought akademiks was bout to cry at 7:56
looooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
yoletsgetpizza dog......thats hilarious!!! U a fool
U just learned that world two days ago, U just keep saying SONICALLY 💀
Kanye revolutionised the way auto tune is used in rap with his 808 & Heartbreak album.
Hi Tech I feel like that can be more so attributed to T-Pain because 808s was auto-tuned pop inspired music while T-Pain was doing it on hiphop tracks years before 808s dropped.
Hi Tech and the use of 808s. 808s is one of most imortant album for todays hip hop sound.
Hi Tech 808s is trash sorry
DRWRITER08 that may be your opinion but facts is facts. with that album Kanye created a new space for rap music that's never before been done. some of the instruments you here on that album, and even on his other albums, are not even instruments. it's Kanyes voice. he uses auto tune in a way that has never been done and it's amazing. he's a musical genius. without 808s & Heartbreak, auto tune would still be looked down upon today. in other words Travis Scott, Future, Young Thug, ect wouldn't be as big today because they use auto in such a way which is why they each have there distinct sound that are unique to them. and the list goes on and on and it's all because of Kanye.
808's is my favorite album just was talking about this on my podcast
Kanye created 5 classic albums in 6 years. He literally has the perfect discography that every artist dreams of, and strives towards. Everything from The College Dropout to My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy is literal perfection. I'd break it down as, Kanye is the better artist, while Jay is by far the better rapper. 💯
PHXNTXM Kendrick has a perfect album discography 2 great albums and 2 soon-to-be classics
PHXNTXM how is 808 perfect in your opinion I couldn't listen to it
ash k section 80 not a soon to be classic?
PHXNTXM funny how you say he has a perfect discography even though his last 2 albums were complete trash 😂😂
Tristan Waldron They were good for what they represented. I, myself, am not that fond of Yeezus at all. Despite that, much like with 808s, I acknowledge the fact that it is an experimental album centered on frustrations driven by societal pressures/struggles. As for TLOP, that was a strong religiously driven album. Containing concepts and principles that are similar to a lot of Kanye's oldest albums. Granted, TLOP doesn't hold a candle to TCD or LR, but the reminiscences are still there.
MBDTF Is one of the greatest albums of all time. It has such a rich production value and sends a very conflicting and beautiful message.
No it's not maybe one of the greatest rap albums but not one of the greatest albums
@@TheEminemGuy well if it isn’t, then no rap album is outside of MMLP.
@@TheEminemGuyIt's absolutely up there with Thriller and Dark Side of the Moon, cope
MBDTF was a dope album definitely kanye's best work
Akademiks dead ass look like the frog meme
Basic Person his name is Pepe you uncultured swine
Budden is crazy if he genuinely thinks Graduation is better or more classic worthy than MBDTF
Michael Lopez you fucking drunk if you don't... How old are you?? Old Kanye was that nigga you buggin
Both are dope
graduation is better its his best
MBDTF is absolutly a classic, that isnt even a debate
Graduation ain't even top seven.
Joe came out the womb as a Oldhead.
Billy Lynch It's annoying. Lmao
damm i love how joe is so passionate about hip hop
KANYE HAS ALOT MORE CLASSICS...AND MOST OF JAY Zs CLASSICS HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH KANYE'S PRODUCTION....JAY Z'S THE RAPPER,KANYE'S THE RAP ARTIST..JOE'S MY GUY...BUT I TOTALLY DISAGREE... KANYE IS A CLASSIC ARTIST AND HAS WAY MORE CLASSICS THEN JAY Z AND YE IS WAY MORE IMPACTFUL.
facts
Sonically
lmao
i agree with Joe. Most people nowadays call an album a classic just cause it bangs lmaoo
mbdtf literally hits every single criteria tho
Good Kid Mad City
Forest Hills Drive
My beautiful dark twisted fantasy
The Carter 3
Take Care
All Classics I STILL listen to everyday.
E91 have fun listening to a song about jcole losing his virginity smh
Ball into theMax nigga your just mad cuz u can’t relate to that album
Top 5 yeah bro u got me
Only classic here is GKMC
How basic to call these classics lmao
Lost in the world is a fucking classic song what is he talkin about?!? I'm triggered bro
Honestly; my favourite song from my all time favourite artist on my all time favourite album and this nigga said it cannot be on a classic album; but asserted that an album with 'Drunk and Hot Girls' is an undisputed classic? Fuck that shit sideways.
Young_Raymond one song doesn't fuck up a whole album lol
Beautiful song
Can't tell me nothing 🔥🔥🔥🔥 my fav Kanye west song
All kanyes albums are classics #facts
Qobiii chill✋
Qobiii Where is the lie FACTS ONLY
Not the last 2 album
Qobiii maybe not yeezus and the life of pablo
@The Ram
the life of pablo is a classic
Joe Budden goes from screaming to laughing to screaming again in .2 seconds
Fucking LOVE this show so much. The reason I subscribed to complex. I love taking in Joe buddens knowledge and wisdom on the music industry today. Hope to do a feature with him sometime
Maxxad TV real shit i listen to the old heads for the culture that i didnt get to live
Maxxad TV Me too, this shit is like 'Inside The NBA' for hip hop. you have a vet and a young cat talking about hip hop with two different perspectives.
Century SAM Exactly man, true. Great idea to do this show
Maxxad TV Hell yeah...I wasn't even a fan of him before musically but love his insight and love for the culture. He's funny as hell too...lol.
Maxxad TV to bad hes an arrogant prick
Every single Kanye West album is amazing. You have to listen to them many times in order to understand. For example, I remember when I first listened to Yeezus I was like "wtf is this electronic shit?" But after hearing it over and over I understand that that album is YEARS ahead of it's time. Sure the lyrics aren't the best but the production is amazing and the way he uses his voice in subtle ways to complement the beats are genius. Same for TLOP. When I first heard it I was thinking that Kanye let me down but after hearing it again and again you understand how different and ahead of his time his albums are. Every single album Kanye makes is different from the last and somehow they're all fucking great. He is the most consistently great contemporary artist there is right now. Shit, even look what he did with fashion. Before the Yeezy boosts, nobody was using that materials that that shoe is using and now all the major (Nike, puma, Jordan, Converse, etc) brands copied the style. Man is a creative genius.
Jessi Villafuerte But Yeezus and Pablo arent his greatest albums. Theyre good, but not classics.
LikeMike294 they’re very innovative albums that don’t sync with current music trends but will stand the test of time.
I can listen to all (99%) kanye music all day
This! I thought Yeezus was Kanye’s worst album, that shit is crazy truly an amazing body of work. Shit, even Ye is great. Kanye does not have a single bad album. Period.
@@zerocooper8425 Facts
Blueprint 3 was the shit in like 9th grade. Watch The Throne, and Magna Carta was cold too.
Nadeska is basically HOT!
mykdube nah
faxx
Ak saying Graduation isn’t a classic album is WILD.
Ak the type of guy to say that anything that is actually amazing is overrated. AK is bad for the culture.
Good Kid Mad City references Thug Motivation 101... classic recognize classic.
Juvenile's 400 Degrees #Classic
Classic = Time less= Kanye first 3 albums Hands down
loopy loops 33 kanye got 5 classics ATLEAST
@@nwoodz they’re afraid to give Ye his props
Considering that Kanye was a big part of 2 Jay Z classic albums,then you gotta give it to him.
y'all better start letting my baby Nadeska get a word in.... talk ya shit beautiful!!!
Joe’s logic is that you’re not allowed to have over 3 classic albums in hip hop
Right lol
Jay z does
1: Reasonable Doubt
2: The Blueprint
3: The Black Album
4: Vol 2
5: 4:44
damn nadeska is fine tho
+spring_of_deceit you a fool for that one 😂😂💀
No disrespect, she is a super average looking female.
Where do you live? I need to see females like her everyday
Mad Co. She the only reason I watch..
she looks like a foot fuck you talkin about
the disrespect for Hov in the comments is crazy the man has 3-5 classics
New Royal. I got 4 Reasonable doubt, vol 2, Blueprint, Black Album, and while American Gangster wasn't his best lyrically the production on that album was amazing.
***** please stop
Jay influenced so many
And had 3 classics period saying guys like tupac and biggie have better albums doesn't negate that
Jay has 3 classics my nigga The Blueprint The Black Album and Reasonable Doubt
So you are saying hard knock life vol.2 isn't a classic? In my lifetime isn't a classic? Kingdom Come? Y'all bugging
New Royal. 💯facts pussy nighas trippin HOV DA GOAT
Basically, Akademiks is right, Budden is wrong. Budden is louder and angrier, so he appears right. Most people disagree with him going in, so he's handicapped as is. But he's not convincing a single soul of anything. Especially if he thinks Graduation had more influence and impact on the genre than Dark Fantasy.
Also, his 808s rant was borderline incoherent.
@Chi Ezike lool stfu
he never even explains why said songs are bad
Chi Ezike “YoU DoNt KnoW HiP hOp” Stfu it don’t matter what you or Budden think, the majority of people who listened to the album know its a classic, and would say it’s even better than TCD
But Graduation is god
Akademiks destroyed him
MBDTF is second only to college dropout, def a classic
yes ainsley
EzSkinsEzLife disagree. MBDTF covers more ground than TCD does in less tracks. TCD is still amazing though but MBDTF is a whole other level
my personal favorite is MBDTF but the influence and uniqueness of TCD is unrivaled imo
Also, I can argue anyone here over TM101, Illmatic, Graduation, The Blueprint, Get Rich Or Die Trying are all classics period.
shout out young Jeezy
People sleep on the black album
Joes blood pressure rises everytime AK breaths on the Kanye subject 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
"The Love Below" reference yassssss Joe Budden be Knowing!!!
Bro WTF?? joe said he needed 5-10 years to see if it was a classic. IT HAS BEEN 7 YEARS SINCE MBDTF DROPPED AND NOW HE IS SAYING THAT IT ISN'T A CLASSIC BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY SAID ABOUT IT WHEN IT DROPPED?!!?
Such an inconsistent argument; you're not going to convince me that GKMC needed 5-10 years for it's classic status to be actualised. He was also mad because Jay Z in his 20 years only had 3 classics, but people were saying that kanye in a 12 year period could eclipse that; basically insinuating that someone could not pull off that feat in such a short time:
1. Kanye is the GOAT for that exact reason
2. Outkast dropped 3 classics in a row but no old heads will ever raise that point because it is from their golden generation and it would highlight once again the inconsistencies in Budden's arguments.
it's been 7 years??
damn I feel old
Kanye has more classics than any other hip hop artists and has a much better discography than any other hip hop artist.
Crimson tell these niggas bruh.
7:58 Akademiks looks like he wants to cry LMAO
7:58 Akademics look like he trying so hard to hold back tears 😂
Twitter Champagne hell yeah
Twitter Champagne LMAOOOOO
Joe is bright red the whole fucking time
Hold up, Carter III ain't a classic? Blasphemy.
Michael no only thing classic about that album is the first week sales with a million sold
ordinaryrapper08 Mr Carter, A milli, Got money, lollipop??? These songs have stod the test of time. Carter 3 is classic
Michael those are four songs and really it's 3 cause get money is and was trash when it came out bro he got at least 10 other songs on that album that you didn't mention...I'll give you a Milli and lollipop even tho I fucking hated lollipop
ordinaryrapper08 I dont really like lollipop either. But it's lasted. I didn't wanna mention too many, there are others I liked on it. Carter 4 was classic too imo 6' 7', mirror have lasted (mirror's not 4 me tho)
nah 2 the classic 3 was just a real good album
Kanye but his last great solo album was MBDTF.Jay's last good solo album American Gangster.
I prefer Kanye especially his first three albums alone beat Jay's entire career to me
Joe budden can be really annoying. Raps Stephen A smith.
Camron-Purple Haze?
Jeezy-Tm101 DEFINITELY
Scarface-The Diary/Untouchable
kanye GOAT
Kanye > jay z
Kanye's albums starting with College Dropout to My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy are *Certified Classics*, they sonically are such creative and diverse outings that shaped the following Hip-Hop Generation. We live in a music space where 80s & Heartbreaks has a arguably larger descendant tree than any Jay-Z album in terms of Inspiration. I think Jay-Z and Kanye West are both Legends in their own rights, but Kanye has touched so many more & will remain eternal in those projects I just listed.
808s &Heartbreak is Kanye's most underrated album
Kanye has 3 classics college dropout late reg and my beautiful dark twisted Fantasy
Graduation and 808 s
His first 5
Graduation is a classic...& made me see that 50cent Curtis was garbage.
chris2tipsy stfu loser
chris2tipsy Curtis was garbage
Rick Harding ur mom is garbage
Curtis had some heat though it's 6/10 album like Views
Generation Gap..Nadeska and Akademiks both are too young to understand what a classic is. A classic is an album that you can listen too in its entirety without skipping. Regardless of Time.
youngstanbk Akademiks literally says that wtf
"Nadeska and Akademiks both are too young to understand what a classic is"
Most accurate post
youngstanbk nah not young enough just stupid, im 26 but all my sisters are in their late mid 30's so i grew up on late 80's 90's music, none of theze new negus barely make classic shit,
12:09 to see joe knck down that orange juice by his foot
If J. Cole Friday Night Lights was a album, it would be classic worthy. Not up for debate
TJ B. Facts!!
TJ B. So would The Warm Up
This is the truest statement I’ve heard all week
TJ B. IMO warm up is better than Friday night lights
The warm up beats fnl hands down