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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ส.ค. 2024
- Indonesia's government wants to move the capital from Jakarta on the island of Java to island of Borneo. Nearly 33 billion dollars will be spent to build the new metropolis Nusantara. The relocation is expected to take decades.
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Another reason Jakarta is sinking that not many people talk about is because the clean water supply there is poor, people is extracting underground fresh water causing the ground to sink below sea level
@@lucasrem Hi Lucas, yes i know.. The Batavi were an ancient Germanic tribe that lived around the modern Dutch Rhine delta in the area that the Romans called Batavia.
Jakarta is staying inshaAllah, the same problem faced by Tokyo in 1960 and they can solve it. Over extraction of ground water is the main problem and it has been addressed despite not as aggressive as I would see, but at least the government has build Karian Dam in Banten province as future water source for Jakarta pipe water system and also build water treatment facility in Jatiluhur dam that will be completed in 2023 for the dam and 2024 for water treatment facility.
There will be law made about Jakarta that would be completed in last Jokowi administration. All of the parliament members have agreed that despite Jakarta is no longer serve as Indonesia capital city, but it special status will remain, and Jakarta is still planned as Business Center of Indonesia.
I just dont know why those Western educated journalist think that Jakarta as business center will be replaced by city in Kalimantan island where main industry and business located in Java ? That is logic, so the new Capital is not mean to relocate Jakartan people to Kalimantan island, but it is more on political thing to balance the power that for so long concentrated in Java island. It is good to improve the Indonesia national unity and also in the long run can make Kalimantan island get more developed. Kalimantan as an island that is potential with its renewable resorces as it has many big rivers needs more push to be developed further
Thats the effect of electing the governor based on religion & hate. Better luck next time
Indonesia looks awesome. Non stop developments. Europe on the other hand is collapsing and becoming a 3rd world country
It was mentioned in the report. Overdrawing of groundwater.
I really appreciate the building of a new capital city. Greetings from zambia 🇿🇲❤️🇮🇩
Good luck Indonesia I'm from Pakistan 🇵🇰Indonesia people vary nice people
Good luck to Indonesia. I hope they look after the environment and the poor people when they do this.
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All the important a d foch will move but the poor and homeless will be forced to stay and will be ignored., Nice way to separate the classes
Thanks bro .. love you from Indonesia
I guess they won't...(based on interviews with the locals there until now this seemingly is not the case)
@@HUMPTY2301 I disagree, ever since the independence most of the development only happens in Java, the capital will give us a chance to grow in borneo. I still think that the rich guys will stay in java since Jakarta is already well developed. Just like what happened in Myanmar's Naypyidaw
Lots of people don't know that this is actually the second time. Indonesia in 1950s was already planning to make a new capital in Kalimantan. A city called *Palangkaraya* was made from scratch. However the project stopped soon after Sukarno fell.
Though it failed to become national capital, the city continue to grew and became the capital of Central Kalimantan province.
And.. Sinking isn't the only problem for Jakarta. Flood has always been a constant threat there since ancient times, because of its location - many rivers flow through Jakarta from the higher southern areas, and Jakarta is their estuaries. The city also located not far from the infamous Krakatoa volcano. Jakarta has been strucked by earthquakes many times and if the volcano erupted violently again like it did in 1883, or worse, Jakarta would be gone.
FYI, Indonesia is situated on top of the so called "Ring Of Fire" and has hundreds of active volcanoes. So volcano eruptions, earthquakes, and even Tsunamis are natural threats for many areas in Indonesia, including Jakarta. Hence the need for a new capital that is safe from all that.
Sukarno knew this, that's why he planned it and made Palangkaraya 65 years ago.
*Edit : addition...
is this valid ?
@@theprince5575 Yes, it is. This is also the reason of why Palangkaraya has second best city plan after Batam.
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@@theprince5575 yea valid
True, also another reason Soekarno was moving the capital to Palangkaraya was becuz they wanted to take over all of the Borneo island.
I can imagine the need for a new capital in Indonesia. It is a very large archipelagic country. I come from Ph and we faced similar environmental and economic concerns. Decentralization of govt is one of the best option. And kudos to their govt for pushing through with this project. I admire their Pres for his political will to implement this monstrous project.
we have the same initiative in Pampanga. only been slowed by the pandemic
I hope Thailand will do the same as Indonesia, Bangkok is sinking too. I love Philippines and Indonesia, from TH 💖
Decentralization of government is one of the best options, yet the government (past and present) keep reclaiming land in Manila Bay. Now they are even building an island which they will turn into a city within the city, access to which when completed is the same crowded boulevards we already have today. Unbelievable.
Yes...it is true, Decentralization is the main reason ot that. It is brilliant idea.👍
Thanks my PH brother. In fact my President made a decision to move the capital city to Kalimantan was to follow what has been initially planned by our first President Sukarno. The first President had a visionary idea that the Capital city of Indonesia should be geographically situated in the middle of the archipelago.
The Sukarno successors, except President Jokowi had not gut and courage to make such a brave decision.
I'm from North Kalimantan I feel happy. Because the population in Java is very dense and high, causing economic problems and traffic jams. In Kalimantan the population is still smaller than in Java And the area is larger than Java and has a wealth of natural resources.
Semoga orang Jawa banyak yg pindah ke Kalimantan
I'm from Brazil, the country that jumpstarted this insane idea of creating a new capital in the middle of nowhere. And I'll tell you: even though the governments always try to create a nice narrative to support that idea, the real motivation will be always elitist.
The people in power, alongside the elite civil servants, want to live away from the problems they created themselves. They will create a new capital, which works like a gated community, to happily ignore poverty, crime, traffic, pollution, overcrowding and rising rent prices. And those capitals will always have an added bonus: they make impossible for the people to protest in front of the palaces and exert real pressure on national policy. A project of this size will also generate nice profits from embezzlement and corruption.
What Brazil did and similar developing countries such as Nigeria and Kazakhstan copied is very different to what USA, Australia or Canada have done back in the 18th or 19th century. In their case, the new capital was necessary to maintain an equilibrium of power among states/provinces in a federal union. That didn't happened here, where the Federal Government controls more than 60% of the national budget and gives little autonomy to the states, and definitely won't happen in Indonesia too, another centralized government.
And I'm telling that as someone who's from São Paulo, the city which was harmed the most by the central power when it was concentrated in Rio.
Agree
woah... you have a point tho
Brazil definitely as the case you mentioned, but i highly disagree to some of your points. As it was mentioned umpteen times and people seems to be blind and deaf, Jakarta is sitting on Java island, smack right in the so called 'ring of fire'. We are not stranger to volcano eruptions and earthquakes. Not to mention, Jakarta is sinking at the rate of 11inches per year and about 40% already below sea water level. Effort to slow down the sinking was undertaken by government, but not enough to stop especially without any awareness or effort from its own residents who still use much of ground water. Fear of corruption within this policy to move the capital no doubt is valid, but waiting for Indonesia or the world to be free from corruption is like waiting for the sky to fall, it will never happened.
Reasons to move the capital are also valid and justified, albeit with lots of difficulties and risks. This will take time to bear fruits, but i have no doubt that we have to do it.
I am from Indonesia, you are using your brazilian pointview, this plan already prepare since Indonesia become a country....Kalimantan had been choosen because it is in middle of Indonesia and no volcano , no tsunami and No earthquake
@@bengkelauto1016 So what will they do with the poor and the middle class? Just leave them in Jakarta and live happily ever after in luxury which is worth 33 billion with the whole elite government on a safe island?
This show that Indonesia not just Java, buat all 5 large island under one banner
yes, the total is 17.504 islands
i appreciate to new capital of indonesia is nusantara. nusantara will be more attractive and good landscape in indonesia. I'm agree to good declared of new capital of indonesia by the government. love from india🇮🇳🇮🇩☪️☝️🤲
Thanks bro 🇮🇩❤🇮🇳🇵🇰
We are poor people don't need new capital
Yeah, new 'capital', more like just Indonesia state version of Versailles.
Jakarta is overload, and it's true.
But build a new capital from the ground will cost too much money, time, nad effort. The capital has to be relocated, but to a well established existing city outside of Java and Andalas islands instead of building from scratch and destroying environments.
@@serang Building new capital is actually a good idea
Indonesia memiliki sekitar 17.504 pulau yang tersebar dari ujung barat sampai ujung timur dan dengan terealisasinya pemindahan ibukota ini semoga pemerataan pembangunan juga terlaksana dengan baik.
Semoga tidak ada korupsi dalam pembangunan ini, Mengingat bahwa nilai pembangunannya FANTASTIS, semoga tidak ada korupsi.
Kl pembangunan merata itu artinya tiap pulau ada ibu kota dong?
@@td5734 gblk
I can’t wait for Indonesia to move the capital to Borneo. Jakarta can NOT bear any more people. 😢
I hope the construction process goes smoothly. and presumably, the relocation of the capital will bring prosperity to the Indonesian people
it will not for the new generation,because our debt will increase because of this to mf china
Build new places improve your surroundings and most of all the people in your country. Ignore critics at the same time listen and improve yourself.
*palaces ;)
@@vladnickul what are you twelve?
The root cause of the poor civil infrastructure management and planning is due to the fact that for most of its history, Indonesia's modern cities were based on the Dutch design and technology. The sudden handover of power from the Dutch to the Indonesians after the Japanese occupation means that there was a huge technological gap and lost of knowledge. During the Suharto era, negligence and corruption were rampant, and with regards to serious civil developments, non-existent. The indigenous ways of civil developments need to be modeled seriously on modern western technologies and styles, as is the case for modernized nations like Japan, Singapore, South Korea.
"corruption"
That's the only bit that's caused 25 million people to live in slums in Indonesia
It was going the right track during Basuki's administration. And it went on the opposite direction, back as before, after his successor.
@@veritasverus1276 Basuki is better be the major of San Fransisco
Yes, it's tragic that the handover of power / Indonesian independence was such a disaster mainly caused by the Japanese occupation in WW2. If that would not have happened, there would probably be a peaceful and much more organised road to independence at some point in the 60's. A lot of issues like these would have been avoided and Indonesia would be in a much better place than it is now.
You comparing Indonesia's 70 years ago with modern day Japan, Singapore, South Korea.
Cool and normal.
As a Filipino I clap my hand in glee at the transfer. We would be nearer to the new capital and commerce and trade between the Phils and Indonesia would be enhanced not to mention closer interaction between the two cultures. I had been to Indonesia and realized that we are the same people separated only by the invisible geografical boundaries imposed by colonialism..Very wise move by Pres Widodo.
If you look at it, Nusantara is located on the edge of the demarcation of East and West Indonesia. Jakarta was so far from the East. With the capital in its proposed location, it's closer to the East. Like the "center" of the country. And hey, now everyone, from Sabang to Merauke, will be "equidistant" to the capital.
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@@subreker2666 matamu kadrun bangsat lu
the narrative is wrong....it make it sound like indonesia move his capital because jakarta is sinking.......its wrong
its more about "common prosperity".....the most developed island in indonesia is java
java contributed more than 58% of indonesian GDP
jakarta contributed 17% of indonesian GDP
while kalimantan, sulawesi and papua only contributed less than 16% of indonesian GDP
by moving capital to east kalimantan......there will be more chance for indonesia to develop his eastern region (sulawesi, papua, and also kalimantan)
people in jakarta are not considering to move to kalimantan, maybe some poeple who work for government are planning to move there......but for jakarta people like me......jakarta will always be the biggest economy of indonesia
Alasannya kan ga cuma 1, setiap point alasan yang mendukung pindah ibukota, ya akan di pake jurnalis/pemerintah. Apalagi kalo ada alasan pertimbangan geopolitik, kemungkinan gak di infoin ke masyarakat luas. Yang rugi banyak jakarta kalo pemerintah pusat kluar dari jakarta.
Most of the US backed violent thugs are on Java island so despite the capitol moving, that's really one of the two places US and AUS can apply pressure on (Java and West Papua)
It makes sense to move to the new capitol because you never know when you could become collateral damage to Western backed violence (see 2019 and 2020 riots that are clearly US backed)
@@veritasverus1276 yang jelas dana yang di gelontorkan pemerintah pusat bakar berkurang banyak ke jakarta..
@@veritasverus1276 Jakarta is staying inshaAllah, the same problem faced by Tokyo in 1960 and they can solve it. Over extraction of ground water is the main problem and it has been addressed despite not as aggressive as I would see, but at least the government has build Karian Dam in Banten province as future water source for Jakarta pipe water system and also build water treatment facility in Jatiluhur dam that will be completed in 2023 for the dam and 2024 for water treatment facility.
There will be law made about Jakarta that would be completed in last Jokowi administration. All of the parliament members have agreed that despite Jakarta is no longer serve as Indonesia capital city, but it special status will remain, and Jakarta is still planned as Business Center of Indonesia.
I just dont know why those Western educated journalist think that Jakarta as business center will be replaced by city in Kalimantan island where main industry and business located in Java ? That is logic, so the new Capital is not mean to relocate Jakartan people to Kalimantan island, but it is more on political thing to balance the power that for so long concentrated in Java island. It is good to improve the Indonesia national unity and also in the long run can make Kalimantan island get more developed. Kalimantan as an island that is potential with its renewable resorces as it has many big rivers needs more push to be developed further
@@veritasverus1276 Jakarta gak bakal rugi. Pusat bisnis masih ada d Jakarta, infrastruktur lebih lengkap d Jakarta, kota2 pendukung juga bakal masih ada d sekitaran Jakarta.
I lived in Samarinda and Balikpapan for two years of which they're located quite near to this new capital location. Samarinda and Balikpapan will be the main supporters of this new capital.
Jakarta's overcrowding has gotten impossible. It is entirely understandable that a govt would desire to relocate. It is too difficult to navigate through the traffic, congestion, air pollution to be worth trying to administrate a large country from.
Huston, we have a problem .
What is that ?
we are over popualted .
Dont worry our politicians are shifting to new place with new facilities and luxuries.
@7 years and dont be too proud. What luxury? We are just a developing country
@louisanthony9540 taken as a whole Indonesia taken as a whole is not really overpopulated. Indonesia's population problems stem from local concentrations of high population density and population growth.
Indonesia's population is increasing at the rate of ten thousand per day. In a decade or two it Will be overpopulated if this continues.
I'm a civil servant at East Halmahera, North Mollucas, and very delighted that the capital someday will move to Nusantara, so that the eastern Indonesia region could get closer to the capital, because Nusantara is at the center of the Indonesian Archipelago, and I hope that every administrative and bureaucracy of the goverment system will be more simple than the current conditions at the capital Jakarta (far from Halmahera)
I'm Japanese and studying the Gosowong gold deposit in Halmahera island
Is there still any mining company? I heard it has been already closed
not every Indonesian agree with the idea ...
if the capitol should be moved, it won't solve problems in Jakarta ..
@@ayi3455 There is no solution.
@@krollpeter
Jokowi administration enforce people to accwpt the new capitol.
Tax raises.
price of gasoline increase.
miscellaneous compulsory payments everywhere.
Jokowi mught gain respect from tbe world by visiting Umraine and Russia simultaneously, but he got / received nothing for his own people ...
@@ayi3455 What I know is that this whole new capital city plan has nothing to do with Jakarta. Furthermore, this has been planned since the country's first president.
Good ❤ luck the world most beautiful country in the world Indonesia🥰🥰🥰 lot's of love from India🇮🇳❤️🇮🇩
Indonesia and the entire Asean can do it.
Semangat Berjuang untuk Indonesia dari Negara Berkembang ke Negara Maju. !!! 🇮🇩🇮🇩 Semangat!!!
Wishing all the best to Indonesia and her new capital. May God Bless them. Amin. Wassalaam💕💕
So it sounds like they are moving all the higher up people and leaving the ones already suffering. classic
Indonesia should have strict rules such as Singapore, people throw the garbage away everywhere. It's so annoying while walking and seeing it
As an indonesian, I know many Indonesian's citizens disagree to spend that much money just to 'escape' from a bunch of problems in Jakarta right now. The government rise the price of many things and it's really difficult to survive in Indonesia for the poor people.
kadrun mana paham, otaknya tidak akan pernah maju, kebanyakan makan ayat makanya negara gk pernah bisa maju, makan itu ayat !!
@Louis Anthony when one and his family are starving to death and almost has no enough money for meal, but he still wants to build a palace in the first place, you will say he is dumb or even crazy for his stupidity. What a palace means if everyone dies, dude.. certainly had no idea about what you said I think
@@WingsOfAngel_ yang bangun IKN bukan orang yang belajar dari ayat-ayat Al-Quran, jangan malu maluin lah kalo mau komentar..
Coba anis yg punya ide ibukota pindah ke kalimantan pasti kadrun mendukung 1000 %. Ini krna perbedaan pandang politik aja, kadrun itu selalu menolak kebijakan pemerintahan jokowi meskipun merkea tsu itu terbaik untuk semua tapi dasar merrka terlanjur dicucui otaknya untuk mendengki
@@leojiridnad7364 jangan samakan dirimu dengan saya kalau kamu mendukung sebuah keputusan berdasarkan "siapa", saya berupaya berpikir sehat tentang kebijakan itu sendiri. Ketika rakyat kelaparan, Indonesia diambang resesi, harga2 kebutuhan pokok naik, pemerintah bangun ibu kota. Coba pikir dengan akal jernih, apakah layak kebijakan tersebut didukung? Belum lagi bicara banyaknya proyek negara yang justru kurang bermanfaat untuk rakyat yang mayoritas untuk makan pun kesulitan, seperti jalan tol dan kereta cepat.
Somewhere in every province of indonesia are beautiful..
To make a long story short: Leaving a problem without a solution to create a new problem elsewhere. Great human idea!
Those problems in Jakarta is on the provincial government not entirely on the state. As Indonesian living in Borneo, I obviously expect a lot the economic developments outside jakarta and java.
viva la corruption !!!
long live the corruptor !!!
Jakarta is staying inshaAllah, the same problem faced by Tokyo in 1960 and they can solve it. Over extraction of ground water is the main problem and it has been addressed despite not as aggressive as I would see, but at least the government has build Karian Dam in Banten province as future water source for Jakarta pipe water system and also build water treatment facility in Jatiluhur dam that will be completed in 2023 for the dam and 2024 for water treatment facility.
There will be law made about Jakarta that would be completed in last Jokowi administration. All of the parliament members have agreed that despite Jakarta is no longer serve as Indonesia capital city, but it special status will remain, and Jakarta is still planned as Business Center of Indonesia.
I just dont know why those Western educated journalist think that Jakarta as business center will be replaced by city in Kalimantan island where main industry and business located in Java ? That is logic, so the new Capital is not mean to relocate Jakartan people to Kalimantan island, but it is more on political thing to balance the power that for so long concentrated in Java island. It is good to improve the Indonesia national unity and also in the long run can make Kalimantan island get more developed. Kalimantan as an island that is potential with its renewable resorces as it has many big rivers needs more push to be developed further
There are many solution on progress in Jakarta to prevent the flood and submerged. 2 of the are build dam and sea wall ( NCICD).
I never see government leaving jakarta actually, too much population in jakarta , jakarta need less burden ..
They cannot move people who stay in jakarta, so they move all government instruments.
And for info need USD 30Billion to repair jakarta , same like make new capital and make new area grow.. no bad choice at all
Well besides of the sinking problem, the flood and other things the island of Java is over populated (a study said that the inhabitant there is many more than all Russian, which as yk they got rlly big land compare to Java island). This makes a good reason to move the capital, to spread the people, so the people can do migration to the new capital.
I hope all the things Will Going smoothly, and let's hope for it success. Love ❤️
True, 60 persen .indonesia people.stay in java...
Satu pasangan beranak tiap taun
Saya lahir diindonesia & saya bangga jadi anak bangsa indonesia🇮🇩❤💪
ndak ada yg nanya
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Ga bisa bahasa inggris ya?
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Hahahaha mending diem lu tong
Corruptions must be rampant
It also happens to concentrate power in a nice liveable city far away from crowded population.
This is exactly what a country with 25 MILLION people living in slums should be spending it's money on.
@@toi_techno I concur
The Java island is overcrowded especially Jakarta and its suburbs. The land close to the sea is sinking. It's good to build the new capital in a zone where there are no earthquakes, volcanoes and potential tsunamis. Wise move. They should do it quickly. There will be some deforestation to build the new capital. Nevertheless they should proceed
@@abrahamdecruz5128 do you think those people living in slums get nice houses in the new capital for free? Cause then i have a bridge to sell you.
@@abrahamdecruz5128 It's already deforested. Most of the land allocated to Nusantara is former mining and forestry land. Like the video itself points out, it's largely a eucalyptus plantation today.
God bless Indonesia
When you talk about Indonesian territory, the island's name is KALIMANTAN (kah-lee-mun-tan). It has been for 70 years, please respect that. Thank you.
The world Don't know Kalimantan...They only know Borneo island... because Kalimantan name only represent Indonesia part of island.... While Borneo term has no border...it include Three country of Malaysia Sabah Sarawak, Brunei and Indonesia Kalimantan....even if you look at official world map...they call it Borneo...Borneo is for three country..
The name of Borneo refer to Brunei were given by Western trader to the Island....there no Kalimantan name in that time...Borneo name has been using hundred years long before Kalimantan
It is just like we called Netherland as Belanda or Britain as Inggris, chill.
@@ayahpinkofficial2769
yang punya tanah lah yg berhak kasih nama bukan dunia luar.
nama pulaunya KALIMANTAN bukan BORNEO, mengerti?
no. in english lexicon, it’s borneo, but in indonesian lexicon, it’s kalimantan.
similar to why most pokemons have different name in english and japanese (charmander as opposed to hitokage, etc)
Jakarta is not designed to accommodate 10 million people, most of the population owns a vehicle while the road are not designed to accommodate millions of vehicles.. Batavia which was designed in the Dutch colonial era is only a small part of a very massive city whose rest was badly built by the old era government. As a resident of Jakarta, I feel that this city is almost impossible to organize again, even a small excavation on the side of the road is enough to create a long traffic jam. Moving the capital city is the most appropriate way, apart from that, The relocation of the capital city is to counter the stigma that Indonesia's development is only centered on the island of Java.
more urgent to change habits of most Jakartans, they whine a lot about Jakarta traffic, Jakarta bla bla, but most of them still don't use public transportations which improve a lot in recent years (Jaklingko, MRT, ojols, commuterline, transjkt), still many of them using their own cars/motorcycles
I really hope they care at the environment in Borneo, while doing this switch. Lot's of rainforest with all it's beautiful creatures living there (Orang utans etc)
But what is being cleared is not a tropical rain forest but a production forest as paper or tissue material belonging to the company.
I read about the plan was to make eco friendly city
Please do your own research rather than hearing rumors.
Jakarta isn't really sinking ok, look at the Northern coast of Banten and Jakarta the Dutch Dam technology has been built.
Everything on the news is just one sided point of view.
If Jakarta is sinking why is Jakarta keeps developing ;) use your brain properly.
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Our Sumatra Roof Style on Borneo/Kalimantan
Kalimantan or simply called Borneo has no volcano so it's safer than Sumatra, Java, Bali-Lombok, Sulawesi/Celebes, Maluku/Moluccas, etc
Jakarta isn't going to sink but will function as the economic center like Amsterdam to The Netherlands and Balikpapan like Den Haag/The Hague.
@@mukhrizaz5579 there are no such technology yet
@@rollinghippo2940 oww like that i see
BEST OF LUCK. Not just to Indonesia but to the rest of this world. NATURE DOESN'T NEED MAN!!!
fun fact the oldest kingdom in indonesia location was close to nusantara, its a part of reason why indonesia chose this location
the oldest kingdom is Kutai Kartanegara
The IKN mostly the safest place from many natural disaster in Indonesia... Wish for a succesful to this decision...
Why there's so many foreigners barking around thinking that they know everything about Jakarta more than Indonesians themselves?? Also, the latest constitution also stated had the captiol move to Nusantara, Jakarta would retain its position as financial center. So Nusantara already set to be like Washington DC or Canberra while Jakarta would be like Sydney or New York.
Last but not least, the place that were used for the new capitol city is a former quarry, so the rainforest would remain intact. Please stop barks around if your own country did not have enough trees for making it looks green enough.
well said 👍
Seriously why are you this sensitive with they said about your country is it bad or gibberish
Yes it might remain a financial capital but what they are saying is that it is sinking
Not the economy
Common guys chill
@@khadijatmuritadoh2730 I think he refers to the comments here. Lots of commenters saying Indonesia build the new capital by way of deforestation and will abandoning Jakarta to be dead, which isn't true.
Iya yg ribet mereka, Kenapa mereka gak ngehijau in daerah mereka sendiri alih" ngatain hujan hujan Indonesia bakal ditebas, aneh emng
@@khadijatmuritadoh2730 Lots of commenters were complains about the location of the new capitol and accusing that Indonesian govt have no solution to prevent Greater Jakarta Area from sinking under its massive weight while the biggest fact is the govt now doing 2 simultaneous megaprojects to rescue the city and to remove some of its burdens. Many Indonesians knows this projects since its been approved since Jokowi's first term and also previous presidents like Soekarno were about that close to move the capitol to out from Jakarta while retaining the economic importance of Jakarta. Every Indonesians also knows that even during colonial era, Dutch colonial govt also tried to do the same thing by tried to move the capitol to Bandung which at that time had a highly preferable climate + terrains for the Dutch colonial officials while simultaneously tried to retain the economic importance of Jakarta (previously called Batavia by the colonial govt).
Great Indonesia
Go indonesia love from your brothers in the philippines.. long live the malaya race.
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People complain about the poor management of the city of Jakarta. That's true, but there's one more reason. The sea level is getting higher and higher, the ice in the north and south poles continues to melt, making the world's sea levels higher. If Jakarta is an early example of a city that is sinking, then your city on the coast will also sink sooner or later
The one that are going to escape the sinking jakarta is the bureaucrats, politicians and their families to the new and expensive apartments in the new capital. The rest of jakartans can fend for themselves.
Probably that's what the "believer" forget to consider when they support this white elephant project.
no it was overuse of underground water, same happening in mexico city tho not coastal
Thailand also needs to look for a site for a new capital. Bangkok is sinking and the government is too inept and corrupt to build the sea wall and reenforce the ground to save it. I hope they prove me wrong, but I doubt they will.
Save the money for a seawall. Move to Chiang Mai.
@@krollpeter Chiang Mai isn't strategically a good place IMO, the Capital needs to be more central, so the South doesn't feel even more disconnected and get more ideas about independence. Plus Chiang Mai being a border province isn't militarily a good idea to put the Capital there.
@@abmong I admit this was only an impulse because there the sea would not be a problem.
@@krollpeter Fair, realistically I think if they move it, the new capital will probably be Nakhon Nayok, the name already means "Prime Minister City". It's near enough to Bangkok, but at higher plains above sea level near the Khao Yai National Park and Sankamphaeng Mountain Range.
@@abmong Isn't that a very beautiful area with a lot of great nature?
Building a whole new city from scratch is like spending all of your live savings on stocks, it will fail. A city is supposed to grow, not made within a year.
Good questions! Thanks for this interview. Bottom up and top down development tends to work well. Good luck!
because the people in Jakarta are critical people, in Kalimantan they are more free to carry out their dreams of making Indonesia a puppet state of China
Closer to the Philippines, and then open borders with Philippines. I would be glad to visit the new capital from Mindanao Island. That would be great.
@@jhonargarcia8735 250 Billion Dollar? Really? thats more than half of PH GDP, to much just for new capital..
Since when is the border ever closed between the Philippines and Indonesia? I’m just across the sea at North Sulawesi.
Your welcome
@@benm1324 They think they owned sabah lol
@@jhonargarcia8735 Over proud si acclaa
There's rubbish everywhere. Besides blaming govt, citizens need play their part
Well, two of them really need to.
The government works for the citizens, and the citizens work for themselves.
If you want a clean city without pollution, everything has to work
Banyak yang bicara soal lingkungan di seksi koment.
Saya warga asli Kalimantan dan tinggal di Balikpapan.saya sering berkunjung ke Titik 0,bahkan sebelum di resmikan dengan nama Nusantara dan titik 0 belum ada ,saya sering melewati wilayah itu untuk perbaikan mesin-mesin produksi.
Sekedar informasi,Nusantara tidak di bangun dengan memangkas hutan hujan,tetapi di bangun di wilayah hutan produksi akasia dan ekaliptus.hutan hujan sdh lama habis dan di ganti dengan hutan tanaman industri.jadi anggapan bahwa Nusantara merusak hutan hujan adalah salah.
Kami mengetahui mengenai kondisi di sini,bukan kalian para orang asing yang merasa paling tahu soal ekosistem,kemudian berkomentar seolah tahu situasinya.
Krn bekas tanaman industri trus babat habis ga apa gt? Knp ga dihutanin lg? Skrg sdh zaman AI. Biaya seirit mgkn. Kembangin aj kota yg seh ada, rawat hutan yg ada. Kl perlu diperbanyak sbg kompensasi pembukaan tambang dan perkebunan. Kalimantan kl banjir ga kira" skrg, aplg nanti.
@@td5734 jika kau bicara tidak setuju,maka saya lebih tidak setuju pemindahan ibukota ke daerah saya,asal kau tau jarak rumah saya dgn Sepaku hanya 2 jam perjalanan(sekitar 80 kilometer) dan saya sering stay di sana.saya sangat tidak setuju,di sini dijadikan ibu kota karena pendatang semakin banyak.mindset orang Indonesia itu kota besar(ibukota) itu untuk mengadu nasib.dari 100 orang pendatang,mengadu nasib,hanya 1 yg berhasil,sisanya jadi gembel yg akan menyesali ibukota.
Belum lagi jika perang terjadi,pasti yg utama jadi sasaran pengeboman adalah ibukota,agar pusat komando dan pemerintahan hancur.
Mengerti???saya rasa kau mengerti.
Di komentar saya pun saya tujukan kepada warga asing,sebab banyak warga asing,terutama.Prancis yang sok bersahabat dgn alam.padahal.di awal revolusi industri(awal 1900an) mereka pun merusak alam untuk membuat fasilitas industri.
Malah yg koment warga lokal dgn pengetahuan yang cetek.
Apa kau sadar,pendirian ibukota di daerah bekas HTI adalah lebih baik.ekosistem di sana sudah rusak.hewan liar ada,tapi sdh jarang.yang masih banyak hewan liar adalah daerah Gunung Meratus,masuk dari jalur Sotek.bagaimana jika ibukota di bangun di daerah hutan yang masih alami???pasti lebih rusak alam di daerah saya.
Loe,cm warga luar Kaltim,sok2an bicara soal daerah lain.apa pengetahuanmu????
@@td5734 jika kau mau protes soal keutuhan hutan maka sampaikan saja langsung ke Mentri kehutanan.komentmu di sini nda akan berguna sama sekali,sebab saya bukan pihak berwenang soal kehutanan.
Jika kau cinta alam dan tak suka pengrusakan hutan,silahkan kembali ke awal tahun 90an,di awal Sepaku/titik 0 baru mau di buka oleh PT. ITCI(milik Prabowo) dan protes saja ke Prabowo secara langsung.saya jamin dalam waktu seminggu jasadmu sdh di temukan di bak sampah.
Adopting to constant change, this is how survivors succeed. Kudos to their vision and their act.
Keren...Indonesia 👍👏
This is the beginning of the end of the Borneo Forest - one of the oldest forest left in the world
I believe so. ..so worrying
Its good if we contributed to the world destruction..
i live on this ancient forest myself when i was toddler, now they're all just steady patch of palm plantations, government provides and protects corrupt politicians by masking them with more job for local, a job which literally dispensable cheap labor it's literally a modern slavery with how many overseer they got.
nonsense, the new capital isnt even 0,1% of total Kalimantan area. Kalimantan is big, worry about your own country first.
@@fdhlmr worry about what
All the best. Semoga terus maju jaya Indonesia
torn apart about this, one side is good to give Jakarta time to heal itself and give other region the opportunity, on the other hand, human cities means damaging the forest and its ecosystems. more human, means more land to be cleared off, more trees to cut down. really hope they make a solid plan for the future of Kalimantan forest.
I love my country Indonesia! 😍🇮🇩
Narsis lu
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The #1 Largest Economy in Southeast Asia but you can still see lots of poor people..
Largest economy doest'n mean they haven't poor people
what a logic
Yeah but there is no homeless in indonesie.. and more than 95% of their population living in their own home..
In Indonesia, although some people are poor, they have 4-5 hectares of land and the garden also has a house for shelter
but look at the developed countries, many poor/homeless people sleep on the side of the road without a job during the winter they suffer.
Indonesian not poor people but low live cost. You need only $1 per day to simplity life
Hello, I'm from Indonesia, I didn't expect Indonesia to be broadcast on TV abroad
Most capital relocations like this have failed in the past. Instead of solving Jakartas problems they (government) just want to start with a ‘clean’ slate.
They tried - certainly not enough but it’s impossible to fight against climate change/nature when it hits.
Absolutely agreed!
Capital city need not develop into a super commercialized metropolis type of city, very much like Australia capital city Canberra, lot of people thought Aussie's capital is Sydney 😂😂
Really? Which ones have failed? Canberra? Brasilia? Washington DC?
@Javid Rashid Dutch engineers have been asked to come up with a plan to help Jakarta with flood protection.
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I'm not Indonesian but I see Joko Widodo is a kind and a great Leader
oh... he is... 💯
You not from Indonesian,but you Indon 😘
@@zilemmzile92 I'm from Philippines
Cutting down the trees for this new capital is worrisome. Similar measures have caused the severe pollution of Jakarta!
By 2030, Asia might surpass North America and Europe combined in terms of global power, given its higher rate of economic growth, larger population, increasing military spending, and growing technological investment. 5:49
The Emerging 7 (E7) consists of the BRIC countries of Brazil, Russia, India and China plus Mexico, Indonesia and Turkey.
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Well done, hope they can survive long enough to see that happening
LOL. What. India and China have conflicting interests with each others. Indonesia and Vietnam don't particularly like China's expansionism in the region too.
Dus mu ngomong apa cuk
Brasil did something similar in 1960 for different reasons... with mixed success. Hopefully they'll study that situation carefully to learn from the successes and failures and plan accordingly. Brasilia has always seemed like a bit of a boondoggle to me. But it is Brasil's third largest city now... so apparently you CAN bend and control the natural population trends and patterns if you are able and willing to throw enough money at it. Perhaps it might be better to DE-centralize Indonesia's government as part of this move--instead of further centralizing it.
De-centralization?? You mean, making it become a federal states like Brazil?? LOL, we've tried it and its failed spectaculary. Common peope also deeply resent the federalism.
Our government is currently working with Malaysia and UAE and several other countries to build this new city.. i dont know about Brazil, maybe they work with them too..
But Malaysia and UAE have experiences in building new cities from scratch..
It's already decentralized in a way, governor have higher autonomy than ever before.
A form of decentralization has been implemented in Indonesia since 20 years ago. We call it "Otonomi Daerah". Somewhere in between centralization and federalization.
Plan for new Indonesia capital city isn't actually new. President Sukarno already planned it in 1950s to move the capital to Kalimantan island. A site had been chosen and preparation had been made but it stopped mid way soon after Sukarno fell. (Though failed to become the new national capital city, the site grew to become the city of Palangkaraya which is now the capital of Central Kalimantan province).
The "Javacentric" President Suharto abandoned the idea, and his successors only express their willing to relaunch it but with no real action, until came President Jokowi who act the talk.
We are poor people don't need new capital
When they said "nobody has to worry" that's the exact time you should worry!
Terimakasih DW sudah meliput tentang indonesia
Jakarta itself was never designed to be the capital city, but was designed by the Dutch to be an economic center so that it does not support the essential needs of political bureaucracy at all.
i just pray it will be built around public transport, cycling, and walking. Not cars. Would be nice if rhere was social housing for poor people as well so its not just a rich government ghetto
From the approved designs its already more than obvious that the new capitol city would have a highly proper public transport with 'green/eco-city' as its main desgin.
I afraid that wouldn't happen... In Indonesia people have different mindset... If you're walking will be considered poor...
@@bosanskenaufalevic7370 Well, no. If you're walking OUTSIDE you'll be considered poor. My aunt had to go to the doctor once due to overexhaustion and a sprained knee. Doctor told her that at her age she should cut down on walking and take more rest breaks. She protested that all she'd done was walk around Grand Indonesia then cross into Plaza Indonesia to have lunch. The doctor had her sketch out her path and calculated that she'd walked 7.6 kilometers in 2 hours. The drive from her house to the mall? 2.7 km. If all the train stations are set up like malls with connecting walkways to actual malls, everyone will walk.
You are asking for too much from a government that wants to leave behind its responsibility to start afresh in a new city
@@andrewsuryali8540 I think at some point we're just too lazy to walking outside and need lots of incentives to do it, probably govt need to install a very wide sidewalk with tons of trees and AC's all over the places to make people willing to spent more times at the outdoor.
Very ambitious, i hope it works out!.
Not to mention the horrific levels of air pollution. 5.5 million people got sick last year from the air pollution alone, nobody talks about it 🤫
Kami sebagai orang Indonesia sangat bangga Program pemerintah untuk IKN sebagai ibu kota negara baru yang terletak di Kalimantan.🇮🇩💪💪💪
Spending too much money for a new capitol for a developing country like us with so many problems like poverty, unemployment is wasting for me. Can you guarantee the building belongs to the government or private sector? And we have to rent it? Go check other country, business capitol and government capitol are not too far away. Jakarta to east kalimantan is far away. It will need more cost for government for work travelling from and to Jakarta as business capitol.
Jakarta just need more inprovement in handling flood and everything will be okay. Remember, we are not rich country. Don't waste money even from loan for something that is not urgent.
Jakarta sbg ibukota negara sudah sangat berat bebannya. Lingkungan sdh banyak yg rusak dan sering terjadi konflik sosial. Sudah saatnya Indonesia memiliki ibukota baru, tepat berlokasi di Kalimantan sbg wujud pemerataan pembangunan&keadilan sosial bagi seluruh rakyat Indonesia.
Pala kau.
Klo mao mensejahterahkan bikin setara tempat laen bodoh.
What an interesting project. I will be sure to follow its development.
Towards a change with a better life, building a modern city, a green city, pollution free, with vehicles that use all electricity... A city that the earth needs today.
Go Indonesia and continue your plans, nevermind what others say against it, after all it's your land, it's your choice to improve your country, never mind what others country says against you.
The true
Every overseas will publish positive words and comments IF ONLY they become the one who get parts or the whole projects.
LOL. What do you mean. The new capital is not even owned by Indonesians right now. So many foreign stakeholder there. Next Sri Lanka.
@@Cyan_Nightingale that means you don't get the project too. Drought 😆. Have you payed all your bills this months, yet?
@@mackbedunduk1305 🤣🤣
@@mackbedunduk1305 that guy above spoke the truth. Think seriously
The purpose of moving the capital city of Jakarta to Kalimantan is because on the islands of Java and Sumatra, the meeting of the Eurasian, Indo-Australian and Pacific plates causes an earthquake.
but this new city will become a modern eco-friendly city.
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@@architecthyde. Kode apa kode bok*p
TRUE. but how abaout korupsiiiii?? kawan ladang korupsi lebar disanaaa
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Jokowi has no money. He repeatedly says 2023 will have gloom overlook with incoming global crisis. Even now the indonesian rupiah os sharply depreciating against US dollar (from 14500/1 USD to 15400/1 USD).
At this kind of situation, postponing the relocation will be a logical thing to do. Allocate the money (APBN) for social safety net programs, rather spending it for Jokowi's white elephant project to appease some elites' agenda.
2:29 Are we going to ignore the man walking and balancing on top of the high wall ?
Extreme 😂
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the presidential palace in
Nusantara ❌
Botanical garden in Nusantara ✅
Yes! botanical Garden will be a good idea...but def. NOT a presidential palace/administrative offices.
I hope people from Jakarta find some relieve after the construction of this new capital, but it is clear that Jakartans are facing an uncertain future. I think the money they invest in building a new city could be better used in current cities and decentralization process.
They actually did. Lots of rejuvenation in Jakarta compared to 3 years ago. What concerns me as a local is whether the government chose the right planners, architects and sociologists to make better, commutable, livable cities rather than for aesthetic purposes.
It's not actually new, really. Our first president have already laid out an idea to move the capital to the heart of Borneo back in the 60s, but the turmoils of the era meant that the plan got scrapped and never been revisited... until few years earlier from now.
In late 50s to be exact. And though it failed to become the new national capital city, the site that was chosen grew to become the city of Palangkaraya which is now the capital of Central Kalimantan province.
That shows building a new capital city from scratch doesn't necessarily will end in failure in Indonesia.
Kuala Lumpur is not sinking .. but we move all government headquarters to putra jaya .. done more than 20 years ago
I thought DW fr Germany but it sound fr India...
The rich and powerful moving to safety. The poor left behind to perish.
Jakarta is staying inshaAllah, the same problem faced by Tokyo in 1960 and they can solve it. Over extraction of ground water is the main problem and it has been addressed despite not as aggressive as I would see, but at least the government has build Karian Dam in Banten province as future water source for Jakarta pipe water system and also build water treatment facility in Jatiluhur dam that will be completed in 2023 for the dam and 2024 for water treatment facility.
There will be law made about Jakarta that would be completed in last Jokowi administration. All of the parliament members have agreed that despite Jakarta is no longer serve as Indonesia capital city, but it special status will remain, and Jakarta is still planned as Business Center of Indonesia.
I just dont know why those Western educated journalist think that Jakarta as business center will be replaced by city in Kalimantan island where main industry and business located in Java ? That is logic, so the new Capital is not mean to relocate Jakartan people to Kalimantan island, but it is more on political thing to balance the power that for so long concentrated in Java island. It is good to improve the Indonesia national unity and also in the long run can make Kalimantan island get more developed. Kalimantan as an island that is potential with its renewable resorces as it has many big rivers needs more push to be developed further
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No lol, this is not why the Capital move
No the center of economic will stay, only government officials..
@@muhammadsecret8783 Jatiluhur? kan udah ada
Jakarta: I think our relationship is special😢
Borneo? I hope that habitat and its animals are a priority to protect. Enough humans in this planet 🌍
Sangat lah bangga kepada negara saya indonesia
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It’s just simply like other countries, Indonesia is so huge.
Aquaculture Systems may be favorable in Jakarta someday. Areas that is underwater may be ideal for saltwater Aquaculture...Hopefully.
Hope that they don't forget about North Sumatra. Also lacking alot of infrastructures. Alot of problems that leave alot of people in porverty. One example is the interior side with a huge potential of tourism, for example Bukit Lawang, Lake Toba etc...
Are you for real?! ANY NORMAL SANE PERSON WOULD ADVISE INDONESIANS TO GET THE F OUT OF THERE!!!! You do realize it's located right ON TOP of the ring of fire right?! All those earthquakes, tsunamis happening there, is a recipe for disaster. A much safer plan, would be to re-locate them towards Eastern Sumatra overlooking Singapore, as far away from the Western flank as possible.
Sumatra kan lagi bangun banyak tol, katanya juga mau buat jalur kereta
danau toba sudah mulai dibangun kok.. terakhir saya kesana tahun lalu, sudah banyak dimulai pembangunan baru disekitar danau toba oleh pemerintah..
Danau Toba bukanya udah ada program kek kawasan wisata premium
I smell the availability of cheap Chinese loans.
Low blow 🤣🤣
It will likely so. Should the govt fail to secure investment for the new capital, china will gladly offer new debts. The govt of indonesia is already seeking fresh debts from china for their bloated cost of chinese jakarta-bandung high speed train project
Wellcome to Nusantara
I'm from Indonesia
I love Rusia ❤️
Jakarta sinking problem was exagerate... goverment have a plan to build giant wall in north coast...with giant pumping to pump water out to ocean ...it's just like Netherland someday
Jakarta is staying inshaAllah, the same problem faced by Tokyo in 1960 and they can solve it. Over extraction of ground water is the main problem and it has been addressed despite not as aggressive as I would see, but at least the government has build Karian Dam in Banten province as future water source for Jakarta pipe water system and also build water treatment facility in Jatiluhur dam that will be completed in 2023 for the dam and 2024 for water treatment facility.
There will be law made about Jakarta that would be completed in last Jokowi administration. All of the parliament members have agreed that despite Jakarta is no longer serve as Indonesia capital city, but it special status will remain, and Jakarta is still planned as Business Center of Indonesia.
I just dont know why those Western educated journalist think that Jakarta as business center will be replaced by city in Kalimantan island where main industry and business located in Java ? That is logic, so the new Capital is not mean to relocate Jakartan people to Kalimantan island, but it is more on political thing to balance the power that for so long concentrated in Java island. It is good to improve the Indonesia national unity and also in the long run can make Kalimantan island get more developed. Kalimantan as an island that is potential with its renewable resorces as it has many big rivers needs more push to be developed further
Indonesia is only the first. Many more places will have to relocate..
Woww amazing new capital
good luck Indonesians
Looks like a high end Minecraft structure