The worst KPOP company? - TS Entertainment (Part 1)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ก.ค. 2022
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Hey plofessors! Today we are finally going to be covering the disastrous history of one of KPOP's worst companies, TS Entertainment.
From scamming fans, to mistreating their employees, to getting into legal disputes with EVERY SINGLE one of their groups, TS has gotten into numerous scandals and controversies. So how did all of this happen? And what has happened to the company since? Watch my video to find out!
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If Evangeline calls a kpop company bad, then I'm genuinely scared, as she's researched so many bad ones already 😭
Oh I really try to be reasonable to companies (I'm not one of those people who screams abuse when an idol gets less lines or bad outfits) but TS really is something else....😅
Exactly lmaoo
@@ploopy678 yes, after watching the video I really appreciate how you try to keep your mind open to other points of you. Count on you to be as objective as possible ^^ thx for the great content!
LMAO ME TOO
@@ploopy678 If you say they are bad Imma close my eyes and believe that
B.A.P's Warrior still has to be one of the strongest debut tracks in all of kpop. They deserved a long and prosperous career. Instead, they're a poster child case of abuse in the Korean music industry.
B.A.P were literally up there with Exo. It pains me that they could've been with us much longer and kept that momentum in high popularity if it wasn't for TS's BS and negligence.
I was in my Sophomore year of high school during the time of their debut. I was a Kpop fan for two years at that point and never really fully stanned a lot of boy groups. B.A.P was the boy group I needed. Their hardcore, badass aura and energy was something vast and new. I 100% agree that Warrior is STILL one of the best debuts in Kpop history. Many outsiders didn't want to believe that they were a rookie group because of their high stage presence.
they were so much popular, a very strong group with amazing concept and tracks. Zelo if he had the opportunity he could be up there with Zico, mad talent imho.
@@seralee883 Zico is cringe and kicked off his solo rap career by dropping the f slur, I don't think Zelo would do something like that.
I recommend checking out JustB they only debuted last year in late June but Yongguk produced two of their songs on their debut album including the tt damage. There was also lots of BabyZ who cheered us on so I was very touched and thankful ❤️
@@beastghostt why are y'all so pissy lmfao zico is literally A LEGEND in Korea. I would know, I speak Korean ㅠㅠ I was obviously referring to his success, but as you can see I thought it was evident by my comment ㅠㅠ turns out it wasn't
The way literally every group had members sue the company (Secret, B.A.P, Sonamoo, TRCNG, Sleepy) and some of them actually won their lawsuits you knew it had to be BAD bad.
Yeah the company closed late January last year for good
right.. I'm still surprised that the company lasted so long, given that a lot of ppl knew of their reputation.
at one point I started calling them *They'll* get *Sue* (TS) entertainment
@@ELmayberry well apparently the company closed in late January last year. They should’ve closed years ago but better late than never
@@gwenmloveskpopcecmore took way too long for T.heir S.hit enter to close down 😔
I genuinely laughed out loud when I heard some fans received the unreleased single 3 WHOLE YEARS LATER. Imagine not even following the group anymore and moving onto new interests and one day that unreleased song just shows up on your doorstep.
BAP has one of the most tragic and saddest cases. They had so much potential and talent. I feel so sad that they were deprived of "whwt could've been"
They might be toe to toe with BTS today :)
BAP could’ve been the next big thing. I feel so bad for those poor boys. 😢😢😢
Honestly, TS had some nerve not fulfilling their campaign promises and then using the Sonamoo members to then go out and beg on their behalf for more money AND apologize for the delays.
It's SO unfortunate what happened to BAP. As an EXO-L, I remember our old fandom wars. It was a bit sad when they pretty much disappeared as a rival and then came back when there was no way for them to catch back up with all the new boygroups. BAP was a powerhouse group and didn't deserve that at all.
I feel bad for CEO Kim, it didn't seem like this was truly his fault. Seems like he just lost control of the company and the higher ups drove it to the ground. I really hope he didn't kill himself out of guilt...
Dang ig I was wrong about their CEO then
i remember stanning bap so hard back then, now that im older, im in awe at how much theyve managed to put on such great performances and pull off crazy concepts with all that irresponsible company and staff managing them
Yeah
I recommend checking out JustB they debuted last year in late June but Bang Yongguk produced 2 of their songs on their debut album including the tt damage and B side get away. There was also lots of BabyZ who cheered us on and said JustB reminded them of Bap so I was very thankful ❤️
I pretty much already know what happens in the next part but the story telling still has me on the edge of my seat lol 😧 cant wait for part two!
yes, the second part will be sad and dark.. I feel so bad for the boys honestly.. Missing by trcng remains one of my favourite kpop songs of all time. Their synchronization is just as good as seventeens too.
Eddy!!!
@@Pain-yx1ri yeah they announced they quietly disbanded last year but 4 of the former members re debuted
Hello Eddie!!!
hi edward, are you still bodyshaming minors in the kpop industry?
Apparently Sullyoon of NMIXX also auditioned for TS entertainment… and passed. I am so glad she’s with nmixx rn instead of this terrible company-
Yep and people who think Jyp is bad have never heard of TS I almost forgot she auditioned for them
@@gwenmloveskpopcecmore people who thinks jyp is bad should put their sneakers on and leave because JYP is actually a good person and supports his artists. also he is not the ceo anymore so he has no control of everything. he is just a music producer. JYPE is somehow a problem but not as bad as SM or YG
@@welike9319 heck yeah
@@welike9319 ooh yeah
@@welike9319 yeah but I meant as in the company. However I’m not a fan of how SKZ’s division has been overworking them
As someone who got into kpop because of B.A.P I absolutely loathe TS ent with all my being. Secret, B.A.P and Sonamoo had so much potential yet their company was just absolutely shit to them
Been to the TS building and saw BAP in concert in London. I strongly believe that their lawsuit against TS dramatically altered the course of their career. They were equal with BTS at that point and while they were away in court, BTS surged past them ... and the rest is history!
that makes so much sense. idols are expected to endure, perform, smile and shut up. we never really know whats going on behind closed doors esp in Korea
i've always said that if it wasn't for the lawsuit, bap would have been what bangtan is right now
@@danigirii if you look at B.A.P’s record yes, they would’ve been. Makes me so mad
@@boodledemic6430 right?? same exact trajectory. such a shame that TS is actual trash.
Tshit ent saboteó a B.A.P
It's sad, because the songs are great. From the sounds of things, CEO Kim was the sort of person who was really good at their craft (in his case, producing music and everything to do with making stars shine), but wasn't good at the business part of it, so the unscrupulous execs could've very easily taken advantage of him and his company
I guess I pretty much doubted their CEO I thought he was a bad person tbh guess I was wrong
👏👏👏
Makes me feel like he was one of the biggest victims here in the sense that those snakes destroyed the company that he worked hard to build, they tarnished his name and reputation, and the result was him losing everything. With the success that their early groups were having, TS could've really grown into a big and successful company. So much potential just went down the drain because of the greedy and corrupt people. I hope they were all punished severely for the damages they caused which includes damaging their artists' futures.
i honestly think ceo kim had the best intentions up until his death, he was a staff at dsp and thought he had what it took to run a company himself but failed to live up to his own expectations of himself and the company turned into disrepair, note how everyone had complaints about the staff, managers, etc but never bought ceo kim's name into anything, like i never heard anyone try to tarnish ceo kim's name, he had just hired the wrong people who took his vision and dirtied it
No wonder I thought their CEO was trash apparently I was wrong
Poor man, I feel sorry for him, R.I.P CEO Kim.
@@vitaminc4228 me too and now I regret doubting him
damn.. I thought he was one of the main problems.
I feel bad now
I thought he was the problem until I saw how all the members of his groups were with him on his death bed…. Like they probably all (or mostly) liked him
B.A.P was one of my favorite boy groups… I will never forgive TS Entertainment.
Me too...
And hey fellow baby
Same even if the company no longer exists
I was a huge fan of B.A.P and it was just so unfair and horrible what they went through. I remember seeing a video of Bang Yongguk (the leader) having a oxygen mask on as he was struggling to breath. Member Daehyun having a bandage on his hand where the IV was connected because he did not have to time to rest and was force to go on stage right after. As for TRCGN , I know the members had so many issues in the place they were living in. Having their toilet broken and having one of the member's mother pay for it as their message were ignore by the company staff.
I really like how she narrates, she drops plot twists better than murder mystery authors, so it keeps my attention throughtout the videos.
Also her hair and style here? Flawless
I just came here to coment on her hair. I'm glad you noticed too 🤣 I love it!
Her editing is also immaculate
UPDATE: Part 2 is out now! th-cam.com/video/srShq3EsovE/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=Ploopy678
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WARNING: I get increasingly sassier as the video goes on 😂
I usually try to be reasonable to companies (I'm not one of those people who screams abuse when an idol gets less lines or bad outfits), so when I say TS is a bad company.... I really mean it 🤦🏻♀ Do you agree think that TS Entertainment is the worst company in KPOP?
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Yes
Your hair looks gorgeous
Why you gotta end it like that? Sass indeed... 😆 🤣
Please cover cube next
you should cover PLEDIS next. seventeen didn't even get proper in ears when they debuted and were told to "buy them yourself"
When you said fans randomly received their album somewhere in 2020... I haven't laughed that much this year so far. 😂😂😂
when I tell you, I died 🤣
Sonamoo member Euijin recently had a solo debut under the name Hezz with the song Churup! Please support her with this solo venture I imagine it was hard for her to re enter the industry after all she had to endure under the company.. :(
Yay ploopy is back...u don't know the amount of times I search up your channel every single day just in case you posted a new video..hehe love your work. Thank you for your hard work🥰
Literally me as well XD
Did u subscribe
I do the same thing even though I am subscribed and will be notified 😂
just subscribe??
I missed her toooo
Secret were so popular it’s always been so weird to me how most fans that came into Kpop after the 2nd gen have no clue who they are, same with girls day…
newer kpop fans (through no fault of their own) don't know anything really about previous eras. kpop was so so SO different back even in 2012-2014 to what it is now, it's hard to even imagine.
secret I think had a huge fall in popularity when hyosung made a comment about a sociopolitical issue or something which recieved awful backlash, but they were SOOOO popular and so fresh.
@@thesicaeffect5164 yeah I’m a newer Kpop fan but I know both groups
@@thesicaeffect5164 it’s because they only bother to stan groups from the big 3, Hybe, or the runner ups Cube FNC and Starship
@@gwenmloveskpopcecmore as they should, not everyone does 1000 hours of research before stanning a group. Popular groups are popular for a reason.
@@byulharangforlife yep but I have to somewhat disagree with ur comment because not everyone should be stanning just popular groups from popular companies. It never hurts to check out lots of good underrated groups out there
Everyone would be hating on like YG or SM even JYP and Hybe forgetting TS exists 😭
Actually existed* sorry forgot they closed down... Thank God 🙏
You forgot to add Cube to the list and like half of the small agencies without a lot of money
me not even knowing ts existed
@@Royallblu after what happened to CLC, Cube doesn't even deserve to be mentioned
@@domi7022 If you want the CLC feeling again: ->Become a Lightsum fan 😂. They kinda are the Sideprojekt Girlgroup all over again 😔
I've watched a few videos about TS, but this is by far the best. There's a lot of info that I didn't know, like no one ever mentioned CEO Kim. Thank you for the hard work!
Hi Evangeline, remember your video on Blackswan? Well now 3 original members are leaving and 2 new members are joining. you were right it’s Rania all over again 🤦♀️
They didn't leave they 'graduated' lol
@Bae Liv that's what DR said
@Bae Liv because it’s…
✨DR Entertainment✨
Let's hope you don't ACTUALLY happy box us, because I CANNOT WAIT for part 2 😭 #invested
As a fan of secret and a passing fan of BAP back in their hay days. I have no doubt that this video is going to be super accurate.
As a BAP stan, someone just press a refresh button in my mind. I can remember every horrible things from Day1. Thank you for bringing up this TS ent issue bc I dont see anyone in the kpop mainstream are aware of this and ever talked about how shitty this company is. Cant wait for the second part and I hope people take it as a lesson and support the artist careers as they parted from the company.
Yeah they know more about cube then TS because most newer kpop fans have never heard of the company or it’s former groups
I didn't expect to cry as hard as I did during this video- I was a BAP, secret, sonamoo and TRCNG fan and it was so difficult loving these groups so much and feeling so powerless and hopeless to help them...
TS is literally a dumpster fire of a label. How do you sue your artist for stuff that you failed to do for them?? You literally had Secret and B.A.P in your roster and they went up against Kpop titans in the industry. I’m so glad that Sonamoo and TRCNG are freed from that horrible place
I rarely get interested in boy groups, but was completely attracted by B.A.P 10 years ago. Up to now, I still think “WARRIOR” is one of the best debuts in k-pop... In the first 2 years, they were even more popular than EXO and BTS, the company ruined all this.
btw, Sonamoo' Euijin will release her solo debut single today, and several members of TRCNG seem to be ready to debut again. I hope they can get more attention.😀
Thank you for the informative video, love your commentary😆
I recommend checking out JustB they debuted last year but Yongguk produced 2 of their songs on their debut album including the tt damage. There was also lots of BabyZ who cheered us on so I was very thankful ❤️they said it reminded them of BAP so I was touched
yeah I know them😀 love the debut song
@@hori59 yeah 😄 it was amazing 🤩 and Get away too now where’s that Warrior cover Ive been waiting for lol 🤔🧐😂
I used to be a big fan of B.A.P and even attended 2 concerts. I think new kpop fans will not understand how huge they were back in the day. They were the only competition for exo lol
Sonamoo was literally my life growing up and I was so disappointed by the company.. please also talk about what happened to the members as one of them became an actor and the other a soloist
Next week my ass, it’s been 10 days. Where’s my part 2? I want a refund!!!
Happy Box treatment
HAHAHAHAHAHA I love that you happy boxed us not saying that this was a 2 part vídeo anywhere except at the very end of the video 😂
😂 I was just about to say the same thing
I hope we will get the real happy box feeling by not getting part 2 next week but the Hybe/Garam video instead 😂😂
To get the authentic fandom experience
(we are students in asian culture on our way to become plofessors; and this might help understand the suffering of their fandom)
Happy boxed needs to become a real term like how krissed did on tiktok omg 😂
Yass!! "happy boxed" is now officially part of this channel's vocab!
I've heard stories about this company but not fully. They're a HORRENDOUS entertainment company! Thanks for making this video ploopy! :D
B.A.P’s popularity may have gone down but the music never lost it’s quality 😞 Best discography. I’m so proud
Yg : I am the worst
TS : hold my beer 🍺
B.A.P and TRCNG had so much potential. It's such a shame how they were treated under this terrible company.
Yep but I’m glad things are ok for them now. Last year Yongguk produced for a group last year called JustB and many BabyZ supported us and them and cheered them on so I was thankful ❤️
Ngl, that "'Happy Experience' joke" actually made me laugh, I'm hoping to watch the 2nd parter of this video. Stay safe and take care Evangeline ❤️
YES. FINALLY a video on TS Entertainment! I have been a B.A.P fan for years and I am glad if a channel as big as yours looks into this hellhole of a company!
❤️
TS ENT used Makestar to crowdfund a SONAMOO comeback, but kept all the money. NO comeback, NO refund, NO explanation, NO apology till this day. What a scam company! 😡
WHERE... IS... PART... 2????
We're getting the Happy Box treatment.
As a baby, honestly, i cannot forget how much the boys and other groups went through in this shitass company 😭 ot5's doing so well nowadays, they're all glowing
I know rightt
Wow, we really did get the Happy Box experience. You better not all of a sudden delay next week's video to next year!
I absolutely love some of Sonamoo’s music, but I’m so glad I found them at a point they were basically disbanded coz I can’t imagine being a fan waiting for those comebacks only to be met with disappointment. Friday Night and I knew it are such amazing songs when you ignore all the drama
Ploopy your editing has gotten so much better!! The timeline and bubbles were very helpful for keeping up with the rapid fire information. Also your hair looks so gorgeous!!!
They netted the company $8 million and only made $400 a month????? And they had to live in a basement???? How is that even legal???!
Loved the video, as always! ♥I didn't know about this company and wow, what terrible management! I feel terrible for all the people who were hurt in the process (overworked idols and staff, scammed fans...) :(
PART 2?! I was getting so into it cannot wait
Some info on the behind the scenes happenings just unreal. Thank You, Ploopy for another well researched video giving us more history of K-Pop.
I love how much effort you put trying to gather as much information as possible into your videos! Keep it going ❤️
"Happy Box Experience" so we won't be getting a video next week but a physical DVD with part 2 in like 2024/2025? 😭🤣
Girl I love the work you put in each one of your videos!!!! Congrats on the good work 🥰❤️
TRCNG also had disgusting dorms and very little access to basic needs, i hope u mention it in part 2, thanks for this video!!
So even if the happy box project was a dupe (song instead of album), they raised 5 x what they’re were asking for. Last I checked 5 was bigger than 3 and should have been enough.
I knew it honestly one of my favorite kpop songs ever
I'm in a marathon of your videos, this is like the 5th one I've watch in a row, I love your sense of humor and the topics you talk about, you earned a new subscriber.
Yey a new upload!!! Been waiting for a new one. Thanks Evangeline!
your hair looks soo good evangeline!
The fact that many sources either said TS shut down and others said TS is still under lawsuit confuses me.
I love what you did to your hair Evangeline! Great video as always, keep up the hard work!
thank you so much for compiling all the informations and being so throughout with your research (especially trying so hard to get first hand sources).
I've been a fan of B.A.P for years now but never got around to looking up the whole story behind the TS hate in the fandom.
By far the most repulsive thing a company can do is hide behind their artists because fans won’t take their anger out on them…
I kinda know what to expect because I do recall the news on what happened to TRCNG …
I'm still obsessed with Secret's songs to this day, they own my heart omg
I've just started the video and I know I'm going to cry, my B.A.P... 💔
I usually end up seeing your videos late, but I was so on time and now I'm on my toes for the second part, great video!
WOW, thanks for the upload. I love your videos, I find them so entertaining!
the "happybox experience" joke at the end had me dead omg (but at least ill actually be looking forward to this one)
I love your hair! And your videos are the best and so informal! thanks for your content luv❤️
a big YES!! been waiting for you to cover on that trash company, we love the sass!
ploopy you are so professional and i love the new hair
i have read once that bap could have been as big as bts because of their high popularity in western countries back around 2014 (when bts had their breakouts in korea in 2015/2017 for western countries) . it is said that the hiatus was what ruined it all. if this would have really happened, it would even be much more unfortunate for bap than it already is.
They were never on hiatus they were still putting out music. I heard that Yongguk would tell people not to buy any BAP merchandise. He didn’t want TS to get any profits. Got to love that guy. BTS got a lot of baby’s who left and became army’s. Kudos to the faithful baby’s who stuck by their group until they disbanded in 2019
@@katieedsallreamy4756 they were on a hiatus for some time baing. additionally they never disbanded.
@@kingtaeyeonie7908 They actually disbanded. Each of them now have their own solo careers.
Ploopy your hair looks so good 🤩🤩
I really missed your videos , can’t wait for the next part
idk why but whatever video you upload, i always seem to love the way you present the content towards us!!!
TS entertainment is truly the worst Kpop agency ever with how they handled their artists and no one can change my mind💀
TS wasted talented idols, I remember Secret and BAP's popularity.
I am barely into the kpop fanbase, but I'm honestly obsessed with the "true crime" vibes I get from all your videos! Not only that, but I'm also getting more knowledge on what goes on behind the scenes from the trainees to the company itself, and how messy and complicated everything can get. All the idols must've been hella strong to stand all the late checks, poor living situations, and some even the un-consented management contracts.
ploopy your hair looks so gorgeous!!! another great video as always!!
I used to listen to sonamoo here and there. I remember when friday night dropped and all the comments were about the 5$ budget. I should've seen it coming sooner.
I’m so happy you finally did this! I was the girl who suggested it on twitter
Enjoyed the video waiting for part 2 now
Woooo!!! Part 2 !!!! Can't wait
This video was super interesting to me , I’m glad that I found this channel in my home page
I'm still mad about what happened to BAP. They could have been mainstream for me still love them!
im literally 3 seconds into this video and I had to tell you that YOUR HAIR LOOKS AMAZING!!!!!!
Got me with the Happy box experience I cant 😂😂 as usual, plenty of juicy information for us Plofessors to feed on. Looking forward to pt 2!
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I'm just a casual kpop enjoy-er, but I'm so glad I found your channel. Chaotic and shady companies are super interesting to me, no matter which industry. By the way, I was introduced to B.A.P. by a friend in high school when they released "One Shot" and it has remained in my work out playlist ever since lol. That song and video are iconic, I'm just sad to learn that a song that got me through so much was created out of the pain and suffering of those poor guys. I hope they're doing well wherever they are.
girll your hair!!! its so pretty!
Oh wow i never heard of this company. BTW love your hair.
Love the videos, keep up the hard work!!!
i love your videos!! theyre always so interesting!
I just want to say that I love your videos! They're mesmerizing
When I first listened to kpop (back in early 2016) I quickly fell in love with B.A.P, however I never really knew what was (already) going on back then and I wanted to find out ever since. So thank you very much for this video and your great way of storytelling, I finally know now what the hell was going on and I feel even more sad how their talent was wasted. Some of my all time favorite songs are from B.A.P (e. g. One Shot, Hands Up, Honeymoon) and it pains me to see how the company just threw their talent away like literally- 😫
I’m obsessed with hands up
Evangeline!!!
You are so entertaining!
Thorough AND extra funny!
(And your hair looks wow, btw)
Keep it up!
I’m always happy when I get your notification!
AHHHHH i love your hair!!! 🥺🥺🥺
Thank you for making these videos, they're really fun to listen to while doing something and I always learn a lot of new and interesting stuff.
Btw you look like a kpop idol yourself, I'm jealous 🙏
Very interesting! Thank you for this video. I will look forward to your other videos.
Omg your hair is goals😳 The curls😍
Happy 200k Ploopy!!!
your hair looks so pretty!!