ECHELON CYCLING CLASSES: PROS, CONS, COMPARING TO PELOTON

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  • @chrismaxny4066
    @chrismaxny4066 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

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    I've had the Echelon EX-5S for two weeks and am very happy with it. The deciding factor was that the Echelon had handle bars that are adjustable not so with the Peleton. The two apps are quite similar as I've installed the Peleton app on the Echelon and taken classes on both. I've taken spinning classes since it arrived in NYC at Crunch Gym sometime in the 90s. In live spinning classes I never had stats it was all done by observing the instructor and the speed of their legs. When I'm doing the Peleton classes I have no stats on the screen so I just set a resistance where my legs match the instructor's legs. So for me having numbers is nice but not at all a necessity. The Echelon has 32 levels of resistance while the Peleton has 100 but those numbers are only for reference not an indication that the Peleton has three times the total resistance. Ninety-nine percent of people would certainly struggle to do a cadence of 100 or even 40 with the Echelon set at 32 if they could do it at all. I'm also an avid cyclist so when an instructor says to ride a level road I know what that feels like so basically I could shut my eyes and set resistance to feel like a level road. Just because the instructor might indicate a certain number for resistance doesn't necessarily mean it works for you. For instance if the instructor says to put resistance at 10 and have a cadence of 80 and you struggle to get the 80 lower the resistance. Proper form and completing the class are most important which means when standing out of the seat you should actually be able to ride without putting your hands on the handle bars (for safety though don't try this). If you can't finish a class you've pushed too hard and if you're feeling it was really easy maybe you've not pushed hard enough. Don't look at the leader board to gauge yourself in fact just turn it off because some folks might be pushing a low resistance just to get to the top of the chart. I've seen this in live spinning classes where you're supposed to be at a high resistance and there's one person just spinning like crazy thinking they're impressing everyone. It's really up to the individual as to the quality of the workout. Bottom line is one can get a great workout with either the Peleton or the Echelon classes. The single most important thing with either app is to do a cool down ride! (Sorry for the long comment!)

    • @EmmaAdamss
      @EmmaAdamss  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I love all of this!! Totally agree that people would definitely struggle to do a cadence of 100 at echelon resistance 32. The resistances are definitely very different! Thank you for your comment and enjoy riding :)

    • @keshme4038
      @keshme4038 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm a 1st timer. This is good info, grateful for your comment.

  • @MsToolegittoquit
    @MsToolegittoquit 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Emma thank you for your thorough reviews! I am contemplating between the peloton and echelon bike. Does echelon have low impact rides like peloton does? This is a must for me.

    • @EmmaAdamss
      @EmmaAdamss  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes they have low impact rides just like peloton!

  • @greenlion6544
    @greenlion6544 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    They have fixed some of the issues she points out, but they still don’t give a range for resistance. My issue with both of them is the lack of early morning classes. I’m a CEO hours person and I wish there were some 4:30-6 am live classes.

    • @nicisworld6783
      @nicisworld6783 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have noticed this has changed as well. I’ve seen love classes at 3am,4am, and 5am over the last 2 weeks or so.

  • @haileychirhart7721
    @haileychirhart7721 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am strongly considering the echelon sport connect, what is the pricing for subscriptions for the peloton app vs the echelon? And what number of weights would you suggest using? I have 3lb to start out.

    • @EmmaAdamss
      @EmmaAdamss  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think echelon is like $35/month. I would highly recommend peloton over it! I believe the peloton app is $13/month. 3 lbs is perfect - I have never gone over 3 lbs, some even go lower. it seems like not a lot but on the bike you are doing very fast arm movements and you will tire out!

  • @sancarloscyclist
    @sancarloscyclist 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Emma, does Echelon have hour long studio cycling classes on demand? Do they
    have a lot of them? I am used to taking spin classes in the gym which
    are always an hour long and I would like to mimic that workout as close
    as possible. Before I subscribe to a service, I want to be sure that
    these classes are available. Thanks for your help.

    • @EmmaAdamss
      @EmmaAdamss  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know that they do offer 60 min classes but I'm honestly not sure how frequently they do!! Hopefully someone else sees this comment and can give a more updated answer - sorry I can't be more help!

  • @DannyGolding
    @DannyGolding 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This was a very helpful video as Emma clearly had real experience of both the Echelon and Peloton classes, and was able to clearly compare the two.

  • @jessn8700
    @jessn8700 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One of my biggest cons for Echelon is not being able to connect my Apple Watch to monitor HR. Not sure about the Peloton but it’s definitely seeming like a common issue that people can’t monitor their HR during a class on the Echelon app

    • @EmmaAdamss
      @EmmaAdamss  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yeah I don't even bother to try to connect my apple watch to echelon app. To be fair though, on peloton regular bike it's also super hard/disconnects a lot for me, and it's impossible to do it on the peloton app unless you're streaming from your phone

    • @jessn8700
      @jessn8700 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EmmaAdamss I’m so happy to hear that, thank you! Helps with my buyers remorse haha

  • @danm1511
    @danm1511 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Echelon show all songs/artists before the class begins. Also newer/recent classes come up first and are labelled as ‘new’
    Might be an update since this video. Maybe they’ve taken your advice! 🙂

  • @BWells5152
    @BWells5152 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How does the total output on the Echelon compare to Peloton? If you did a 30-minute ride on both bikes would the outputs be similar or would one bike be higher than the other? Thanks.

    • @EmmaAdamss
      @EmmaAdamss  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      theoretically they should be the same (even though resistance is measured differently, they should create the same output since they're both in kj). I find my output a little higher on the echelon (but not by much, I think all bikes are just calibrated a little differently), and I use my power zones that I found on the peloton with my echelon and find it to still be a good workout - so I would say they are pretty close!

  • @jasonv9202
    @jasonv9202 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you have to be displayed on the leaderboard? I prefer just enjoying my ride without the pressure of competition. I was a member of CycleBar until COVID and now I’m considering an echelon instead of going back. Costco has an echelon on sale until Valentine’s Day. Normally $1000 now $799, so with that deal I’m considering it. Great Video!!!

    • @EmmaAdamss
      @EmmaAdamss  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      you can click away the leaderboard!! Not sure if there is an option to remove yourself completely but you can have it so it doesn't show up on your screen. Love my echelon bike and I highly recommend!!

  • @MHS927
    @MHS927 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There is a great app that does allow much more functionality between peloton and echelon bike.

  • @elnoralouisa1
    @elnoralouisa1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Emma, thank you for all your help. Bike is working great, and I really appreciate all your help. I will continue to watch your videos. I got interested in updating my bike from a plain old exercise bike after starting Apple Fitness+. I am on a free trial with Peloton for a few more weeks, and now a few months with Echelon. Not sure if I will be going with Peloton or Echelon for videos. I am keeping Apple for sure. I love the scenic rides on Echelon and want to do all those, but otherwise, probably like Peloton better. But I have some time to decide. Keep making the great videos. Thanks!

    • @EmmaAdamss
      @EmmaAdamss  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      thank you!! I definitely think that peloton has some room to improve their scenic rides, it would be awesome if they focused on it this year! enjoy riding :)

  • @elnoralouisa1
    @elnoralouisa1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I commented on one of your other videos. My bike (same as yours but the Walmart version) is coming today, even though I have to wait until the weekend or next weekend for help putting it together, but what I was wondering is does the app show distance at all? I know it's not important, but I have been keeping track of distance for the years that I have had my cheap exercise bike, and would love to continue. I am using Apple fitness+ but will probably add either the Es. app or the Peloton cheap version of their app.

    • @EmmaAdamss
      @EmmaAdamss  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes the app shows distance!! On the echelon app it'll show you how far you went along with resistance, speed, etc. Enjoy riding! :)

  • @daj.empath202
    @daj.empath202 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really like how you do your reviews. They give me a real person experience with the actual product. Do a trial subscription of the app come with Echelon bike?

    • @EmmaAdamss
      @EmmaAdamss  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      thank you!! and yes, I got 1 month but I have seen some deals with my bike where you can get 3-6 months too!

    • @daj.empath202
      @daj.empath202 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EmmaAdamss Thanks for the feedback. Really helpful. One more question for ya. I see you have to links for the Echelon bike Amazon (Prime) and Walmart (Sports). Is there a difference between the two bikes or would you say they are both the same bike different branding names for those retailers?

    • @EmmaAdamss
      @EmmaAdamss  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@daj.empath202 I've never actually seen the Walmart bike, but from what I see online it seems like it is the same bike with just different branding. They are both ~500$ bikes from echelon too which seems to point to them being pretty similar!

  • @KeithBalante
    @KeithBalante 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a Schwinn IC4 and using the Peloton app on an iPad. What exactly are you streaming from your phone as well?

    • @EmmaAdamss
      @EmmaAdamss  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My echelon doesn’t have a screen, so my phone connects to my bike and tells me resistance, cadence, output, miles ridden, info like that! And then I stream the peloton on my iPad.

    • @KeithBalante
      @KeithBalante 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EmmaAdamss yeah the Schwinn has a cadence and heart rate monitor to Bluetooth
      connect to the iPad. One thing I think I’m missing is output. Is there an app on an iPhone or Apple Watch I can use to get output? I’m just getting started with Power Zone training and really liking it.

    • @EmmaAdamss
      @EmmaAdamss  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I get output on the echelon app, but I looked around and it looks like using an app called Kinetic should be able to give you output for your bike -- hope that helps!!

    • @KeithBalante
      @KeithBalante 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EmmaAdamss thanks so much

  • @Channel-mp4qv
    @Channel-mp4qv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very thorough video. You touched on my big pet peeve which is the lack of resistance level guidance. I googled "zones" and echelon and still have no idea what they're talking about. Is there a chart somewhere?
    Anyway, if you buy the connect prime or sport you're getting a pretty sturdy and quiet bike for a fraction of a peloton. I think that's part of the equation and makes up for most of the minor deficiencies of the classes in comparison with peloton's.

    • @EmmaAdamss
      @EmmaAdamss  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      As far as I know there are not charts anywhere, I wonder if they cover it in the beginner classes? But yeah definitely not a fan of the echelon zones. I agree about that the connect prime is a great bike and it’s worth the minor inconveniences to save like $2000!

    • @beaveyOne
      @beaveyOne 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EmmaAdamss Yes, it’s covered in the beginner classes. They do a pretty good job of explaining what the different zones mean.

  • @rizwansiddiqi7679
    @rizwansiddiqi7679 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Emma have you tried the wahoo cadence device? I've seen videos of people being able to connect to the peleton app using the Wahoo on their echelon. They don't mention if they get all their stats saved in the peleton app that way though so wondering about that.

    • @EmmaAdamss
      @EmmaAdamss  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I haven't tried it, but it seems like you can only get cadence (but it does seem like it'll be save by peloton), so you would still need resistance to take the classes correctly

  • @j7py
    @j7py 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    wife is 5ft with an inseam of 25". do you know if she will fit this? great review video by the way!

    • @EmmaAdamss
      @EmmaAdamss  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you! Yes this should fit your wife, it is super adjustable and I'm only a 27 in inseam and it definitely could fit someone shorter than me!

    • @j7py
      @j7py 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EmmaAdamss thanks you're the best!

  • @candeezymarie9827
    @candeezymarie9827 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So is this bike pretty similar to the Peleton? I have been saving! But my budget is not really two grand!

    • @EmmaAdamss
      @EmmaAdamss  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes I've had no issue with this bike!! The peloton is great and it's awesome it has a screen to integrate with the whole experience, but saving so much money on this cheaper bike and having more of a hacky set up to take peloton classes is worth it for me!

  • @popcan23
    @popcan23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Can you do a video where you try the hardest rated class for each instructor 👏👏

    • @EmmaAdamss
      @EmmaAdamss  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes that’s a great idea!!

  • @thamarspitzer9590
    @thamarspitzer9590 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would you be able to answer these for me?
    1. Can't you keep track and save your metrics using Strava?
    2. Do you have to pay for the Echelon subscription if you're just using the 'free ride' settings and streaming a Peleton class?
    A huge thank you!

    • @EmmaAdamss
      @EmmaAdamss  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      1. Other people have seem to have success with this without paying for the subscription, but I’ve only been successful in this with my free trial. I am not sure how to export if I’m not paying for the subscription
      2. You can use the free ride without paying for the echelon subscription! That’s what I’m doing now, it just saves no metrics but functions perfectly while in use

    • @rikwilliams2916
      @rikwilliams2916 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Thamar, I have a echelon bike and subscription. It connects to Strava. It’s an inbuilt integration. Once you set up every ride is automatically posted to Strava. When I do Peleton rides, I add manually.

  • @samsicles_jr
    @samsicles_jr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you, really helpful review - very clear and considered :)

  • @EBDeveloper
    @EBDeveloper 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You're right, the biggest missing piece is that the entire systems are not rigid-information-wise. You make MANY GREAT POINTS.
    ...they (both companies) need to watch this.
    //FYI: App stability on Apple devices isn't 100% 3rd party centric. Apple has loads of bugs in their systems. ..so blame both IMO.

    • @EmmaAdamss
      @EmmaAdamss  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I totally believe that Apple is buggy too. I just wish there weren’t 3rd party apps either!

    • @EBDeveloper
      @EBDeveloper 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EmmaAdamss - just in case we're confusing one another..I mean that Apple's dev environment has alot of bugs and issues. AKA: the crash is most likely Apple's fault but *could* be the other companies' fault. // EXAMPLE: My ipad crashes constantly..even when I am in the Apple-News app reading the news.
      ---
      I certainly hope these companies contact you about these subjects mentioned in your video, and that they take you very seriously. So many Apps just fail basic expectations.
      Happy Holidays!

  • @SteveS-hu9hu
    @SteveS-hu9hu ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I found the classes on Echelon more challenging than Peloton.

    • @chrisbagnatoesq.6440
      @chrisbagnatoesq.6440 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very true!! I agree. Iv had done both classes. Peleton and echelon. I started with peleton bc it was cheaper app. I have an echelon bike. Since I liked it I decided to join echelon.

  • @chelmallari8364
    @chelmallari8364 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this same as Echelon EX Prime?

    • @EmmaAdamss
      @EmmaAdamss  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes!!

    • @chelmallari8364
      @chelmallari8364 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EmmaAdamss awesome!!! How’s your bike so far? And does it consume a lot of energy coz it’ should be plugged-in? Watts?

    • @EmmaAdamss
      @EmmaAdamss  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@chelmallari8364 haven't noticed an increase in my energy bill - the resistance in manual so the only electricity part is the bluetooth that tells you your stats! love my bike so far, I've had it for almost 6 months, ride is like 6 times a week and have had no problems with it!

    • @chelmallari8364
      @chelmallari8364 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EmmaAdamss thanks so much Emma for your insights. I really appreciate it. Will definitely consider this bike :)

  • @ChadNJ
    @ChadNJ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, thanks!

  • @MHS927
    @MHS927 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    App is qdomyos-zwift

    • @luispruneda6883
      @luispruneda6883 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      just saw this. Did not know that zwift does this! Thank you!

  • @janayasmith1788
    @janayasmith1788 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you do live classes on the $12.99 Peleton app?

    • @EmmaAdamss
      @EmmaAdamss  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yes you can!

    • @janayasmith1788
      @janayasmith1788 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EmmaAdamss Awesome! Thank you for responding 😊 & I enjoy your videos!

    • @EmmaAdamss
      @EmmaAdamss  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@janayasmith1788 Thank you!! :)

  • @christopherlin4681
    @christopherlin4681 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice video! Seems like echelon has a lot of work to do!

    • @ShadeSlayer
      @ShadeSlayer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I own an Echelon and I disagree with you completely. I am jaded. I am a spin instructor. Both Echelon and Peleton have Ken & Barbie Doll instructors. When an instructor is not breathing heavy or full of icky yucky wet clothing, they did not do a work out. They pretend. It's all lights camera action.
      If I were to pay Echelon for a monthly subscription, I can save and review all of my rides in detailed information. Same with Peleton. Both are strict with their proprietary software. You can not go to another App and then expect Peleton or Echelon or Bowflex or anyone else, to build your profile information based on your workouts. You have to record your own information.
      I own an Echelon Sport Connect and I use that bike on a regular basis. I am going to purchase a 2nd Echelon. I can easily rent the bikes and people can do their own thing, and I can teach classes.
      At this time, I do not pay to use any Apps or cycling programs. LesMills on demand has cheaper RPM classes. You don't need to be connected to participate in a spin class.

  • @deankrakelphoto
    @deankrakelphoto 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really informative video but please slow down!

  • @chrisbagnatoesq.6440
    @chrisbagnatoesq.6440 ปีที่แล้ว

    Make a new video. Echelon fixed all these.