The Big Problem With Assassin's Creed 1
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ต.ค. 2024
- Assassin's Creed 1 has a major flaw that holds the game back from being even better than it already is - repetition of an annoying gameplay loop. The stealth systems of the AC franchise had not yet been fully worked out, which is understandable, as it was the first title in the series. Altair's journey would kickstart a wide array of Assassin's Creed games, including - Assassin's Creed 2, Assassin's Creed Brotherhood, Assassin's Creed Revelations, Assassin's Creed 3, Assassin's Creed 4 Black Flag, Assassin's Creed Rogue, Assassin's Creed Unity, Assassin's Creed Syndicate, Assassin's Creed Origins, Assassin's Creed Odyssey, Assassin's Creed Chronicles and more. #assassinscreed #assassinscreedmirage #gaming
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I so feel your pain with the beggars. 😒
They interrupt missions which is especially annoying with pickpocketing, no matter where you go in the city you always hear them say "No please just a few coins" or "Please give me food I'm so hungry" to the point where their dialogue becomes drilled in your brain, and if one sees you climbing a building she will throw a rock at you and cause you to fall. Definitely one of the most obnoxious npcs in the series.
I killed the beggars before desynchronization
Ugggghhh, that rock throwing was a nightmare
I just punch them and they leave me alone 😂😂😂
@@RuiGamer1 Better than me throwing them.
It is a very irritating aspect of the game; it gets so bad that it encourages me to go out of my way to beat them up until they're curled up on the ground.
Maybe if there was a mechanic that tied into saving people being bullied by the guards, like if they implemented the pickpocket idea in AC2 before then, they could have it where they'd repay you by slowing guards down during pursuits or combat, or just an option to pickpocket throwing knives. Anything to not make the player despise the nagging beggars.
One thing I personally like about this channel is you talk about the things you do and dont enjoy with different games and movies instead of pretending theyre either perfect or horrible.
I loved this video. I got so annoyed in ac1 about the guards even though I do really like that game a lot
Even though I played AC 1 I honestly hope mirage doesn't have this in their game but honestly CPU are merciless. Thanks for the vid Jay many blessings to you
Yeah this was one of the few problems I had with the game. There's also basically zero customization but they fixed that from the sequel onward and I guess it makes sense for Altair to not care about changing outfits or for Al Mualim to be strict about it.
Why would you have customisation, you are an assassin not a model
@@srivastava6400cuz fashion is key
@@huejaneus4903 Yeah mate, I don't think assassins need to think about fashion
@@srivastava6400 ac brotherhood ezio is an icon of fashion
@@huejaneus4903 Yeah, but skill wise still behind Altair. Doesn't show how fashion helps an assassin
This is so true in so many aspects lmao.
I always fight all the guards after did my main assassinations because it's just easier to do so rather than run & hide
Hitman's io interactive sould make an assassin's creed game
I love the game but it has a lot of weird quirks that I think 2 was able to improve and some of these critiques certainly count.
I can understand the repetitive missions but 420 flags with no reward? Why?
What was the deal with that anyways? Games had done collectibles well before.
Even the repetitive missions got added because a kid told so, lol. I guess it's just that Ubisoft didn't expect this game to blew up so much. It literally started as a spin-off of Prince of Persia
It's literally a meme lol. They are making fun of collectibles by having 420 flags.
@@A-Gaymer But the lead who did that said he did it to show gamers that some collectibles are a waste of time... Yet they incentivize players to do it for the platinum trophy or achievements which players don't think are a waste of time. Seems backwards as a meme. Should have committed to the bit at that point and just given absolutely nothing for it.
As a way to add some longevity at least, because the campaign is short. Notice how templars always stand near chests? I bet they wanted to implement looting etc. just didn't meet the deadline. The programming for Altaîr alone took forever. It's one more unfinished masterpiece from Ubisoft, sadly, but I'm glad we got what we did anyway.
Some people talk about the game like it’s perfect so I’m glad you’re being honest
yeah right?i saw a lot of people saying that this game is master piece and flawless and rest of the games are trash
Tbh i feel like they are just to bad to play the game right😅 i never had their problems
@@redrobin0440 That's always been a bad excuse to dismiss any criticism of things though. Nobody likes the "Get good you're just bad" people or takes them seriously.
@@redrobin0440from the footage that doesn't seem to be the case, except how they do the combat.
@@WideOldDan They be the first to admit they not perfect at combat lol. Jay has chronic pain disorder so he said sometimes combat in games can frustrate him but depend on game.
It's the same FIVE missions over and over.
Yeah that’s actually kinda annoying about the game
@@tommywright2487 What's with you guzzling on this game? It's weird.
@@tommywright2487You do seem insecure lol
@@robbyk7070Fr dude got ratiod out of existence in another comment thread and now he's here crying cause some people don't exactly agree with him 😅
@@tommywright2487 Tommy - you need to go outside. You're under every comment getting triggered. It's just a game man. Relax.
Might just be me but I never really had a problem escaping the guards. I broke line of sight and hide in the rooftop gardens.
But I agree it's a bit unrealistic that everybody knows where you are. I guess the devs really wanted the players to get good at escaping.
Yeah and to be fair to the game most games have a "everyone knows where you are" system but I've always found it a bit silly.
Great video loved the talk about AC 1
I love this channel but its crazy how certain people get so upset just cause you disagree with them on a game. Weird people man im telling you.
Some people can't handle it when they get disagreement. Unfortunately those people can also vote and drive cars irl.
@@tommywright2487 Bro, you're really so upset that nobody agreed with you that you followed me to my comment lmfao 😂
@@Deltatrip39 Nah he's too dense to listen. He's under every comment crying like a little baby XD
@@Deltatrip39Nah I agree with him. This other guy needs to seek help. He's being creepy.
@@tommywright2487have you ever heard of an exaggeration? Clearly they were being 100% literal that it was impossible to escape. They were clearly exaggerating in saying that it was challenging.
Back in the day. On the unpatched PC version (Phisical DVD not steam or uplay). Counter attacks only worked less than half of the times. HARD MODE!!!
Geez that sounds really obnoxious lmao
Bruh the fighting is super janky and you have to get hit in order to counter or in a fist fight you can hit one time per enemy hit
I’m playing this for the first time now and have to agree with all points no matter how careful you are if the ninja guards find you it’s Uber hard
What annoys me is people will defend this game like their life depends on it.
Some good points here. The main thing that bothers me is the gaurds being so fast and climbing/parkouring as fast as Altaïr. That and the kingdom, if they ever do a remaster i hope they get rid of it and just let fast travel to the gate of the city. Maybe, for the first time, it could land us on the cliff where we can see the whole of each city.
I actually have never had that hard a time getting away from guards lol. Sorry Jay. I found the best way is a realistic approach. Look for a path with a lot of turns to break their line of sight, and then shift either to the rooftops or down to the ground.
The most annoying things with dealing with the guards:
1) They will chase you until you hide, even in the Kingdom at times. Not to mention Altair automatically leaves his hiding spot if a guard sees him hiding.
2) Guards will choose to chase you in the Kingdom region when your horse gallops past time (not doing anything wrong and I still get attacked).
3) That beeping sound that constantly goes off when you've been detected and won't stop until you're out of combat.
Hot tip:
If you disable the health-bar from the HUD options it gets rid of the detection beeping.
@@Killicon93 Thanks.
I guess I actually liked the first point. Loved the entire idea of being chased down, and how it was hard to get away from enemies.
I've played every single game in the series except the first one, hoping for a remake to do it justice
The first game is still great and I highly recommend it. I have a few critiques of it (like the idea that you can only really escape by going a mile away or entering a hiding place, which they never bother to check) but it has one of the strongest storylines and character development arcs in the franchise and it's simplicity does also make it a great game. Idk if or when it will be remade as Ubisoft recently said they basically aren't doing it... But they could also be lying.
@@DegenerateJay yeah I've heard it has a pretty good story even though that the mechanics aged poorly but it doesn't matter to me I'm used to play older games from time to time, the only problem is that I play on Ps4/Ps5.. Don't know why it didn't get a port like the rest of them
I personally think this game sucks but it’s the first ever Assassin’s Creed game anyway, the franchise definitely improved up until Unity.
I just played the game for the first time and I felt this too much. The frequency of guard encounters is INSANE after the fourth or fifth mainline assassination. The final three are dreadful, because as you said, it seems like every male above the age of 18 has been recruited into the local guard. They swarm over the rooftops like zombies and you hit a wall where you go "fuck it, let's just slay 'em."
Then after you slay them, you have to go start a completely different mission because the pile of corpses interferes with the npc's pathing and heightens their senses. The final Jerusalem, I had to bounce between missions repeatedly to clear bodies.
And the FUCKING BEGGARS. They're unmovable so you have to keep rolling around them. The aggressive homeless guys that push you into guards were infuriating.
By the end of it, I felt less like an assassin and more like a super soldier. Thank you for confirming what I felt was the main weakness of the game!
I think you should feel like an assassin, just simply because you share the same name as the protagonist of AC 3. I really appreciate the kind words though. At first, the video was kind of flooded with people disagreeing with me, but a lot of those people deleted their comments I think when they saw that most people agreed with me? It was just kind of odd. Totally fine with people disagreeing, but it was odd how vehemently some people disagreed, and how vitriolic they got about it. I am both glad and not glad that you shared a similar opinion, because some of these issues made me enjoy the game less than I wanted to. I actually love this game, and I think that the simplicity of it makes it really great and a perfect foundation for the series, but some of the ways specifics were executed in the game really frustrated me like those issues.
@@DegenerateJay After just finishing AC 2, I have a much deeper appreciation for AC 1's strong points. Not every game will be perfect, and in the grand scheme of things the guards and beggars are very mild annoyances for what is a solid game. As of now, I prefer 1 over 2
Shameful how people who disagree get mean. Hope some people in comments seek out the inner peace.
5:52 i believe there is a button to blend in as scholars doesnt that work inside the crowds ? Or when u r walking alone?
You can sorta like slow-walking, praying like a scholar when you're alone. But that's it. You can't blend with the crowds
Both of you described what I was trying to talk about better than I did, so I appreciate it. Yes, you can sort of do a blend with the A or X button depending on what you're on, I don't know what it is on PC, but it's not the same as auto blending with crowds and it really only works well in the presence of scholars.
11:37 I’m currently playing AC1 right now. Yes, the guards in this game are extremely agile. They’re like the thieves in AC2.
Even the soldiers and guards who are in full armour are nearly as good as Altaïr at climbing and leaping around.
I barely ever got into combat but when I did it was easy to lose the guards or shank them with throwing knives. I did hate the automatic detection in areas in the kingdom though.
Here is the thing about your critisicm, if you do run from guards easily than that makes for a very boring escape sequence after you assassinate your target, so this would hurt the gameplay loop more than it will improve the game. As per games design the escape being part of the core gameplay loop and therefore it needs to provide a challenging time, the game balances it out by giving you the information on the investigation part so that you can stealth assasinate according to the info. It is designed to give you a hard time if you dont use the information. But if you do, you are set to follow 2-3 specific approaches or combination of approaches to your target, because otherwise they are very well protected, which incentivises the use of investigations as it is also part of the gameplay loop(not just as sth on a checklist). Imo they should have given us checkpoints states, in order to make it a bit more friendly, because as a newcomer you cannot truly know everything about the game systems, youre gonna need to experiment and make mistakes in order to play as well as the game intented. This is something that the game needed, a freepass to mess up and learn. Also you mentioned a couple of details that dont make sense but rather work more as gameplay mechanics, such as cant assassinate somebody from the front, to me this makes for a challenge, but I do agree with some of it could have been more immersive
Hey Jay, you probably wont see this, but just a quick update. I'm currently on AC3 now (if you remember on an AC4 video you did, I commented saying I was playing through them all and was on 1 at the time). Hope to take somwhat of a break after this one though and then continue. Keep up the work.
What the hell? I don't have this problem at all. since hiding spots are marked on the radar so I find them relatively quickly.
They usually watch you enter them because they're Olympic climbers lmao 😅
@@rodickinass484FR and they catch the hidden blade super easy for no reason.
@@tommywright2487 There's a difference between challenge and flooding your game with enemies. The latter is just lazy.
@@tommywright2487 Yeah... you have no idea how game design works clearly lmao
@@tommywright2487 mfs when someone loves the same game as them and has one small criticism instead of acting like it's perfect: 🤯🤯🤯
Add to that the shitty investigation missions, where you have 3 minutes to kill two guys stealthily, yet beggars get in front of you exactly when you throw a knife so you have to relisten to the whole speed and try again. Guards everywhere so the only way is with knife throwing, yet in the souk it's a nightmare as you can't hide on a roof 😭 and what about parkour which is glitchy as f*** sometimes
Kinda sounds like the point. This is meant to encourage stealth and not being detected
I believe the other games (2, brotherhood, etc…) did stealth better by making it more realistic. In AC1 it is borderline unrealistic how many times you are detected and the game does not provide the ability to walk around the town without being detected easily and the guards eandomly knowing exactly where you are at all times.
It really encourages me to go play a game like MGS 1 that did stealth better on the PS1 than this game did on the PS3 and Xbox 360 era.
The stealth sucks tho
I agree with everything that you said. I was replaying first dilogy of Assassin's Creed games, and I'm now playing Brotherhood, and I freaking hate Assassin's Creed 1. Like, if any game in the series needs a remake, then this one here should get it. But, knowing that Ubisoft these days sucks balls with their game, I don't think that they can make a good remake of any game. Anyway, I played Assassin's Creed 1 to the point when you get, like, your boots back or whatever, that allows you to, not counter enemy attacks but dodge them, jumping out of the way. And after I went to, I believe Acre and got busted by few guards on the roofs and had to fight with them, and then I was trying to visit another tower to synchronize, or look around, I realized that I had enough. Because, you can't go here, you can't go there. This area is guarded and that area is unavailable and covered with this kind of white matrix wall thing. I got so freaking annoyed by it that, I just told myself "f-ck it", and installed Assassin's Creed 2.
And you know what? Despite many frustrating moments, I actually like Assassin's Creed 2 more than Assassin's Creed 1. Like, the movement is better, the parkour is better, you don't have that beeping sound anymore when you get detected, and the fighting system is more enjoyable than before. And even exploration is well rewarded not just with collectable feathers and shit, but with actual in-game money, so that you can buy yourself new upgrades and stuff. Sure, I played AC2 when it first came out but, it was a long time since then, so I kinda forgot many things. Cause, last time I replayed both AC1 and 2 was in 2015 maybe, I don't remember, and like I said, I don't remember shit since then.
And then there is Assassin's Creed Brotherhood. Well, I'm not too much in to the game currently because I started playing it yesterday, and I stopped after mission where you have to help Volpe to save his son, after he been shot by guards, but I kinda feel conflicted about this one too. Like, I played this game back in the days too but again, I don't remember shit since then. So yeah, I feel conflicted because, from one side it's Assassin's Creed 2 but a bit different, but from the other side, it has stuff that makes me feel annoyed. Like the fact that guards can now grab you by the throat and hold you, while other guards hit you. Sure, I know that you can escape from that grab by pressing Right Mouse Button and, in my case F on keyboard, but it is still frustrating. And then these towers that, you not only have to destroy, you also have to kill some kind of special guard and then you can explode it. And it is so freaking boring, man. And then you have to visit mazes to find some keys, to later open new armor. Other words, it is so annoying, now at least, that I just can't sit through this game like I did with original AC2 and enjoy it. But these mazes or caves that you have to visit, was frustrating for me in original AC2 too. But then, there is special challenges that, you have to complete during the mission to synchronize to increase your health, and man, I just want to stop playing AC Brotherhood by now. Cause it is annoying. But at the same time, I wanted to continue because, I wanted to see further, what this game is all about because, again, I don't remember anything about it since back in the days.
Just finished it u are right about everything
I’m gonna be pulling this comment up and showing my wife every time I lose an argument, so I appreciate it.
How hard it is to parkour away from the guards is one of my favorite things about the game 😆
I got annoyed how easy is to get away from the guards in the games that followed. There are so many ac games that the guards can't even climb. So boring 😴
I think there's a very easy middle ground they can hit where the guards can climb, but you don't need to be fighting the entire Middle East population all on one roof for 5 minutes
@@DegenerateJay Yeah I think black flag was the best for middle ground...
@@tommywright2487 You seem obsessive and really angry for no reason. Did your mom make this game or something?
@@AlwaysCorrect-ke6ttI've seen this guy in a bunch of comments and am wondering the same.
The problem for me is that no matter how good you are you can't get away unless you hide in a haystack or if you run far away enough. It's like they have x-ray vision and know exactly where you are. So because of that I think it's actually too easy to get away, just get up a building break line of sight and hide in one of the MANY hiding spots.
18:18 Speaking of the game’s design working against itself; having 7 or 8 ‘save citizen’ memories on each area of every city literally goes against being stealthy and not drawing attention to yourself.
Yeah I agree with all these. I think I’ll wait for the patch before I buy this
The patch lol 😂
7 months ago. Yeah the patch you're waiting for is never coming.
The graphics in ac1 are 100 % better than the ezio trilogy.
Tbh I think none of your critigue makes sense. Take into account that despite being a fantastic assassin, you are also wielding your tools out in the open during a crusade. Obviously you would be the first suspect near a body, wielding your equipment like that. In addition guards in olden times were quite vicious, if they had reason to suspect a civilian then you simply ran out of luck. In addition, if you take into account the story, then it makes perfect sense for guards to be on the lookout for you and your order. Plus for its time this was fairly competent enemy teamwork, given how persistent they can be in chasing you down and for attacking you in groups where possible. They will do their to look for a culprit if bodies turn up. As for the beggars... why would you just attack an innocent person out in the open in the street? Sure, they are an interruption and are meant to stall you, but it's not true that they will bother you during every mission. Obviously tossing someone around is a reason for a guard to act.
Of course, the fact they are so good at chasing you is because there is a heavy focus on combat. The guards are also good at chasing you because that helps with three-dimensional gameplay; it would be quite boring on empty roofs if enemies couldn't climb up to you.
Plus I've always found it easy to run away from them and hide provided you're not surrounded by like fifteen guards. The whole point is that you can enter and exit combat quite easily whenever you want, but if you want to progress missions then you'll have to deal with unfavourable situations as well.
Going from AC1 to 2 is like night and day.
Another reason this game deserves a remake way more than Black Flag
Yeah because black flag is perfect and this is awful.
I want a remake kinda using unity's engine but don't add full sync please
I agree with everything one hundred percent of what you said. There even times when I try to kill one of the The main contracts of the game and want to go for the silent kill. When i pull it off they throw me to the ground and this alarm bell sound when I did absolutely everything right to get the silent kill and it drives me insane when it happens
Playing AC1 as my first Assassin Creed game is the reason I stay away from AC franchise. It is the first time I feel repetitiveness in video game. I heard that AC2 was much better but I didn't have any chance to tried it til this day.
Maybe I will tried AC4 one day because I'm curious about that one
Yeah this game really turned me off. I hope AC2 is better because if it isn't, I just wasted a lot of money buying all these games.
Never touching this game again when im done
literally the worst assassins creed game ever i cannot stand this game
Same, I hate this piece of shit. Nothing at all is fun about it.
I think the developers have failed to communicate their superb albeit unfinished design to a wider audience that might have liked the game, but fortunately it's been out for 16 years and there are a ton of community resources on how you might enjoy this game to the fullest. it is a hidden gem and a great achievement in game design theory.
at the end of the day, it it's not a game for you, nothing will change that.
Hope they fix it on the remake
I actually remember this when I would play ac1. To the point where Getting on a horse and leaving the city was the plan. I don’t remember if the game would let you leave if you in combat.😂
To I guess kind of defend this game… it was the first of the series. So it makes sense that they improved with the sequels (more or less depending on certain aspects and mechanics) after knowing what worked and what was flawed. I haven’t played this game since like the year it came out, but I remember being in love with it. Maybe I’ll give it a shot, and get annoyed with it as much as everyone else has 😂
I feel AC3 has the same problem with always being chased around
A guess a good historical or lore reason for the guards hypervigilance is that people were alot dumber back then lol and werent as easily distracted, so it was easier to control the masses xD
My pet peeve with the game is it doesn't allow you to play the game YOU want. If you wish to explore the area before you continue with the story and update your map with as many scan places as you can bother with and then do the story, if the story tells you to go to a location you already been to recently, you're fucked!
You get NO identification to where you have to go or do. You could equally just restart the game and don't bother being creative.
That's why this game needs a remake with better AI and a fun gameplay experience.
no money will be made
1. U missed the point of being an assassin 2. Your not following the tenets of the creed hints you get punished for it 3. Ur just bad
Did you mean hence? If you're going to try to insult people you should at least learn your words. This is embarrassing.
@@teezoowazoo7272 He can't even get you're right. I don't speak much english even I know words like that.
Flags are the worst part
I loved this game. So much.
Credit where it’s due I’ll give Ubisoft a thumbs up for starting off this series with the first game, but definitely the missions are repetitive though this was their first game OF the franchise.
tons of games have had there first game be great
I enjoyed this as everything you do it differently It's alot better than the shitty RPG games
Lol use hay stacks. Not that hard
L take, my opinion
L response, my opinion
@@rodickinass484agree
L response you can't take criticism ac1 is overrated 😂
@@TheseNUTZ588 shush
Ac1 is top 5
"Tell me that you never played games that require skill without telling me that you never played games that require skill" basically sums up this review, literally most of your criticism can explained by lack of skill, patience and criticising the most obvious game-design, don't get me wrong this game has some major flaws, but most of them has already been said perfectly into words like 'repetitive gameplay loop', 'boring presentation' and 'janky/glitchy' and this review literary adds nothing.
Sorry you felt that way about it!
@@DegenerateJayI don't comment often anymore but no way bro said you don't play games with skill when you've platinumed most of the From Software series.
Tell me you can't take criticism without telling me you can't take criticism
cope