Many people never realize how overloaded Shaco's kit is... His Q is a blink, invis, and guaranteed crit. W. Is a Fear, a physical unit (can block skillshots), a source of damage, map/zone control, and general vision. E is a projectile that deals a large amount of damage, as well as a slow, and Attack speed debuff to jungle minions. Ult causes mind games, can dodge massive bursts (Karthus and Zed ult are examples), can let you walk over thin walls, and is also another unit to block damage as well as dealing damage at the same time (a lot if AP).
+Alex Young i agree some of these but not all of it. first of all. Q = blink? really ? with that range especially ? invis ? can counter with pink ward for 75 gold and "free" Trinket. Only crit makes sense. W = Fear ? oh boy... you have to wait atleast 2 second for it after using W. I agree about skillshot block. Source of dmg only if you stack them in choke points. E = Not dealing large amount of damage if you compare this ability to other champs has. Especially rengar or kha (specially kha's Q) R = Shaco needs that ultimate cause of highly squishy champ he is. Withouthis ultimate shaco would be miserable. Btw Shaco's ultimate not countering zed's ult anymore. In order to deal high amount of dps shaco needs a ton of gold. atleast two or three times than rengar,kha or zed needs. Those champs that i give as examples you can have both dps+tanky items and you can still 1 shot almost every champ in the game. But as shaco you can't do that. Shaco needs atleast 2-3 items to kill an ADC. In order to scale late game you have to choose witch build are you gonna follow. Assasin,apc or bruiser. each roles have its weakness. If you go as assasin you'll gonna be the most squishy champ in the game at late phase. For apc you have to rely on those box and hope enemy team make bad calls to bait in those box. If you go as bruiser you may scale well in late but that depends on enemy team comp. Even in those situations rengar/kha or zed scales better than shaco with less gold. (main reason ı'm giving those champs as example because they're all assasins btw)
Berke Sengil And don't forget little things like his W: You have to stop... So if rengar is near and you place W when running, you stop for a moment while doing so, and.... he can catch up does not matter whether he gets his ebola on you or does not... Meaning you can't dodge skillshots every time and so on. Oh no shaco Q'd what do I do? oh right rengar ults... Kids just can't play this game anymore without turning off their logical module just to give enough power to flame troll and QQ one.
What about the most overloaded ability? Charm is a skillshot, with high range (975), deals damage, stuns, slows by 50% and it even used to increase damage taken by 20%! If an enemy is hit by charm it will walk directly towards you; if it has no vision of you, it will stand still (good to know if something is warded); if there's walls, it will choose the shortest path to you; if the enemy is in melee range, it will walk away from you. The slow is fixed and cannot be affected by Rylai or slow resistances (items, masteries or Yi ult). Also, it's the worst possible way to spend Ahri's passive. Damn I love this ability.
Skillshots Fizz's pole is probably the most overloaded single move IMO. Just as good of an escape as vlads pool but instead of a 20+ sec cd its up every 5 or 6 seconds, slows, deals GOOD dmg in an area and you can change direction half way thru in case you made a poor decision initially. Makes the entire champ incredibly noob friendly since you can get caught out of position all game and barely have any deaths.
MultiShadowdragon the insane jokes right there.. She has stun, high mobility, a fucking shield THAT SCALES WITH AD and if you're below half hp her ult will rek u
Cytrem Being "Overloaded" means that they have basically everything in the game in their kit. Shields, executes, dashes, CC, sustain, heals, steroids, poke, gapclosers, true damage, vision, etc.
Where is riven?? No resource AT ALL 4 dashes, a knockup, a stun, passive sheen STACKING, ult has 0 CD And gives her A LOT of ad, AOE execute dmg, 0 cooldowns
He is pretty over loaded but then, supports are supports for their utility. Bard has heal, ult, stun/slow. Leona has like seven billion stuns. morgana has her ridiculous binding, a shield that stops CC, and a stun on her ult. Thresh has a pull, much like Naut pull actually, a shield with his lantern, a big slowing field, and a knockback with flay. So, he does do everything, but he's not as specialized as other supports. Pick Leona for hard CC, pick Soraka for heals, pick Janna for protecting carries, but Thresh is just Thresh, he works in almost all team comps.
Jeffrey Chan thresh used to be looked at as the definition of overloaded. engage, dissengage, a shield, massive peel and some free dmg on top of that. every single single ability in his kit is extremely versetile. Q: engage, lockdown, peel( to some degree). W: shield, massive dissengage to a single champion no matter how out of position they are. E: AOE, get enemys closer, get enemies away, keep enemies slowed down... . R: massive slow on multiple enemies for peel or lockdown. OVERLOADED
What about Taric? You got that complicated skill-required stun, an AoE of damage, and umm... You got a heal. Then your ult increases tank stats. Most of the time, I can't execute the best Taric combo (Flash, stun, AoE)
I thought lulu was going to be in there, pretty much all of her moves have at least two functions or ways to be used. aoe slow and damage, shield/damage + vision, speed up for her allies, polymorph, increase health + knockup + aoe slow around target
I didn't mean to main Ekko and Jayce I just found their skillcap and learning curve high and now have climbed faster than ever after near mastering them.
Yi can also be in the list in my opinion, his kit consist of a Dodge Anything Q, Damage Reduc while healing, Immune to Slows, and True Damage and passive double attacks. His Q can basically dodge anything, even Warwick's Ultimate, if you time it perfectly. His W can basically shut down bursts that could be fatal as well as passively heal up every once in a while without going back to base. His E basically overpowers most champions in early game enabling him to secure his position in late game, snowballing like a avalanche, along with his passive he can easily dominate. His Ult basically is just a double edge sword, to run or to chase that is the question, give him immense chasing capabilities as well as escapes in addition to his Q as well. He can pretty much be listed, because of his versatility in combat and the plays he can make.
Jack Wood He doesent have many tools, jumps in deals damage, dies--- he can chose how to do that, but i wouldn't call his kit "overloaded", just cancerous.
Jack Wood Rengar is just poorly designed. Jump out of thin air, 1 shot the carry while they cant move. No counter play. an exclamation mark above my head for .1 second doesn't do anything. Just a bad design. Malz has Aoe and CC and dmg. He has no built in flash or any escape, and to suppress he has to sit still and against decent players can barely be used in team fights (usually to peel for yourself if at all) Malz is an example of decent character design, trade strengths for weaknesses, unlike the characters on this list, and some that were missed like Riven and Thresh.
Your going to pink ward every square inch of the map? CC him before you can see him? The carry being jumped is going to buy an oracles, only to see him landing on their face when its too late... Who are you calling an idiot, even Morello and Riot acknowledges he has no actual counter play.
Could've mentioned Tryn. Tryn's passive gives crit, his Q is a heal as well as giving him flat AD plus more AD based on missing health. W reduces enemies' AD and slows if they're facing away from Tryn, his E is a gap closer with a good base and ratio plus each crit reduces its cooldown, and then his R prevents death.
I'm impressed that you didn't put thresh on this list. His kit versatility is off the charts! Literally all of his abilities have duel purpose, either offense or defensive, and are basically just given free extra CC effects on top of the things they offer thresh
What about Lulu? Six abilities, a skillshot that is shot from two points, depending on the location of pix, and which can fly into any direction of your choice (but it's very hard to aim if you want to shoot the two lances into different directions), a polymorph that slows, a shield that adds damage based on your ability power, a point and click ability that does damage and gives vision, the relocation of pix and finally an ultimate that adds a slowing field, gives additional health and has a knockup. She is just my fav champ :D Not my most played one (that's Gnar), but my favourite. Referring to roles she is really versatile (you can play any role). Right now my favourite role is toplane Lulu. However because of the utility midlane Lulu works too. And, also because of this reason, the ganks of jungle Lulu are really effective. Plus you can solo drake at around five minutes into the game. Another advantage is that you can laneswitch very well. She has no AD scalings, however her base values and especially the utility of her abilities, are even for AD builds sufficient.
Ashuvain yeah, he's basicly a one trick poney. Fail your pull and you become an oversize minion for 10 secs. Not to mention the disaster that may come from pulling an amumu, reksai, kennen, etc.
Pretty much every champ that can amplify it's spells in any way to make them work differently: Renekton, Karma, Rengar, the OLD Sona. And also Lulu since she can shoot her Q in two directions, it can also be shot from an ally or an enemy, her W is a polymorph or a movspeed buff, her E is a shield or mark on an enemy and essentially a second spot to shoot her Q from and her ult is... well... a knockup that gives health and I think it also has an aura of some sort but i might be wrong.
"in fact, alot of the champions on this list are weak right now" - "At number 10 we have Irelia" - "At number 9 we have Nidalee" - "At number 8 we have Rek'Sai" lololololololololol
ryeas201 assasin ekko is a squishy champion as well. being squishy doesn't mean they can't be overloaded. Heck even nidalee can be squishy (unless built bruiser) or for that matter most champions with near to no items. also there isn't 2 knockups +GoldenMonsterHD one is a knockback.
Everyone is talking about how overloaded the new champs are in league, but did i mention Invoker from Dota 2 as 14 abilities? There are also heroes like Doom who have the potential to have 6 abilities. This tends to get overshadowed by the fact that Dota has different items, so even a hero like Necrophos with two castable abilities can seem interesting to play. This shows how dimensional champion picks are in League, where more revolves around the champion and not other aspects of the game like terrain or items.
I love riven but she has gotta be one of the most overloaded ad champions in the game. She has a sheen that stacks up to 3 times coupled with a q to work with it. She has an aoe stun on a super short cooldown, a shield that SCALES OFF OF AD that also comes with a dash, and an ult that boosts her range and attack damage for a period of time that also had a an aoe execute tied to it.
Gangplank: True dmg, movement speed, extra gold income, sustain, cc removal, massive crits, slows, passive resets, global ult presence. But I love GP so it's k.
I think an honorable mention would be Lulu. A passive that can change her build path entirely and deals nice damage, a slow , a ms buff/polymorph (Also the poly slows) Her e is a shield that may grant lulu passive /a reveal damaging thingy. Long range comes from her e q combos .Ult is a knockup with an aura slow and that hp that cant be countered by ignite.
I really don't know what you mean with overloaded and what's bad about it. Moba characters are altogether simple and LoL is not a very complex Moba. Not even something like Invoker is "overloaded" - just a little more complicated. In the entire video no explanation, no justification why these characters are "overloaded". People have no problem playing them - they are fun to play - so what the fuck is the problem?! Not every character must be as boring as Warwick and Garen.
Taxtro overloaded as in their kit has substantially more options than the average character. if you had to think of all the things that warwicks kit let you do, it would be like "well i have passive lifesteal, point and click lifesteal, attack speed buff, i see low health enemies and gain movespeed while running towards them, and a point and click suppress that does damage" whereas playing nidalee, you have alot of options coming from her kit. long rage poke, throw down traps which give vision for a short time and vision of enemy when triggered do damage and apply her passive, heal/attack speed buff, then cougar form which has a mobility spell that deals aoe damage, an AoE damage, an execute and her passive which essentially resets her pounce and increase damage on her q, and if triggered in human for, resets aspect of the cougar cd. And im sure i didnt get everything. So thats an overloaded kit Over loaded kits arent a bad thing. Thats why all the new champs rot is releasing have overloaded kits. Because they are fun to play. I personally main nidalee (thats why she was my example). Riot is even reworking champions to give them more in their kit. Look at ashe and sion. Two champions that were reworked recently and given more to their kit. Because overloaded kits are fun. The only "issue" is balancing an overloaded kit is hard because low elos dont know how to utilize the champions entire kit and higher elos do so they are super strong in diamond and in bronze, everyone is like THIS CHAMPION IS SO WEAK, RITO PLS. But overloaded kits very fun to play. Thats why riot keeps making them.
DowhopZigZagJelloPopRudyZiggetyZaggity Puddin also some champ like annie is easy to learn and easy to master. you can only do so much as annie, doesnt matter if you played her once or a billion times. im an azir main and he has an insane potential, in both damage and utility. riot wants to reward good players and skill and overall knowledge of your champion
+Taxtro Can't tell if serious. First of all, he never said that it was a bad or a good thing. He just mentions champions with overloaded kits. What an overloaded kit is? Basically, a kit that gives you so many tools to work with. A champion that can gap close, damage increase, stun, slow, escape, heal etc etc is one of those champions that have an overloaded kit. Check your basic ADC. They rely mostly on its basic attacks, and maybe some of its abilities to deal extra damage or help itself in its kiting process, be that either through a straight repositioning (Vayne), a SpellShield (Sivir), infinite dashing (Kalista) or rooting (Jinx / Caitlyn). Now, compare those utilities with someone like Gnar. Gnar has a long range slow, which also reduces its cooldown, has a stacking %health damage that increeases his movement speed, a dash that inreases his attack speed, during which time he gets overall bonus attack and movement speed and attack range, while he can also transform into mega gnar to grant him more tankiness, healing and HP regen, more AD, a stun, a dash, a slow and a powerful AoE enemy repositioning that has the potenial to stun. That an overloaded kit. Slows, stuns, self-buffs, dashes, bonus damage and so on. That's not a bad thing. It is what it is.
What is with Poppy? Poppy has the most op kit I have ever seen, just alone her passive , it makes her almost invulnerable at low hp, her Q is a absolute Tank-killing machine. She does get through her W even more tankyness and mobility with a damage applification. She also has a stun within a Dash which is sometimes not that easy to pull off .But still. Then at last her Ultimate,which gives her even absolute invurnablility against almost anything and a DFG like effect on a single target.
Its kinda obvious that more than 4 skills make an overloaded kit... maybe tahm will be overloaded too. thresh can be considered overloaded... problem is that an OP champ or mechanic can be considered as overloadiong some champs in some way and the discussion starts there, cassiopeia have a "simple" kit, his new passive overload a bit her skills,and make her arguably overloaded, syndra got the same thing, kha zix too, viktor too, then is about to anyone decide if it is overloaded or not, for example new Ryze and his crazy several reworks overload him a bit,since it is on continuous changes, but it is a simple straighforward rework, yet a bit overloaded (30%CDR? WTF)...
Dark Helel Tis ... is pretty true ... but i think this is mostly an opinion based thing like i personally think Darius is a bit overloaded thank to his passive being a free ignite. But again simple kit.
Dark Helel lets just consider everyone overloaded Like just argh I think the thing i find the most annoying about stuff like this is it never leads to anything good All you here is bitch this and bitch that Yes the kit has a lot, I think really only Kalista frusterates me right now But that doesn't make them unbeatable, Strong yes (Sometimes strong) Unbeatable no,
Dark Helel This is not the definition of being overloaded I believe. I mean ok, the new ryze is still insane, but he still is all about "IMA GONNA CLICK ALL MEH BUTTENS ON YOU!!1!". Syndra, and maybe kha zix and viktor aren't overloaded. They just slowly amplify their spells, but simply by adding extra burst and / or cc, things they already have. Their kits and play-style are still pretty straightforward, and while Kha may find some different uses, syndra and viktor are all about bursting targets.
Dark Helel tahm will be overloaded. thats not a bad thing. Overloaded champs are fun to play. Thats why all the new champs riot release are overloaded. Because no one wants to play mordekaiser anymore. Not enough in his kit. As for cass, syndra, and kha, i would say they have more of a style of playing now rather than an overloaded kit. Kha is all about isolation. Picking off targets and reset jumping out. syndra revolves around having dark orbs out on the battlefield as all of her abilities revolve around them. Cass is an okay champion but a moneter if your poisoned and her new passive puts emphasis on that, With jayce its like "super powerful long range poke, team speed up, adc-attack speed buff, strong aoe slow and gap closer, aoe magic damage, fuckton of percent health, and shred armor and has pretty consistent movespeed buffs" so he has lot of options in a teamfight. Kass is looking to get a nice ult off and get to work on pumping out e's. Kha wants to catch the adc out of position, jump in, death, and jump back out. Syndra is trying to get damage on anyone close enough wth q's, maybe land a nice aoe stun and ult the squishes. But when i play nid i can either go for q's, set up qs for hunt on the adc, heal teamates, kit back with autos and throw traps, just cougar and swipe-takedown the closets target, or jump in and just all in a squishy. Its just the amount of options, but youre right, the champs you listed defiantly dont have underloaded kits
Dark Helel the two reasons you hear overloaded in a bad way is because 1. balancing is hard for an overloaded kit and the release of overloaded kits means they will always be strong their first two weeks and 2 when people lose to someone because of a stupid mistake, they say " WHAT THE FUCK RIOT, THAT CHAMPIONS IS SO OP. THEY HAVE A and then they list every ability that champion has to prove to themselves that they lost because balancing issues. These people could make garen sound overloaded
Horst Schlemmer For a toolkit to be overloaded, it would need to be _too_ broad - and that should express itself as champion power: otherwise it's just _loaded_. She has lots of moves, but none of them are great at what they do. She has lots of mediocre options. I would sooner argue that Thresh is overloaded, or Lee Sin - despite having fewer abilities - because they can be used in different ways. Rappel is a slow / telegraphed engage, and a terrible escape - it does those things - it doesn't do them well. Cocoon is a crappy stun. Neurotoxin/Bite are poor max/missing hp attacks. She's not tanky, but she's all AA damage now. Loaded sure, overloaded? No.
Yvaelle Sure, if we go by your definition Elise would not be considered an overloaded champion. However, the reason she is in such a crappy state IS because her kit is fundamentally overloaded. She had to be nerfed, nerfed, nerfed some more, gutted, and then nerfed again because she was everywhere for like two seasons. In her prime, she was certainly an overloaded champion because all of her tools were effective. Hence why she was being played pretty much everywhere.
One more thing: Hard Yasuo counter. Like WTF Rito. A samurai with a high-skill curve gets countered by spin-to-win beginner champ? WTF. This is what I flame about Yasuo.
Pretty sure Jarvan is worth mentioning since he's been off and on as king of the jungle as the ultimate tank/fighter hybrid with loads of tools for years even despite taking tons and tons of nerfs, he's only recently fallen off since his power has been cut back quite a lot.
Jurani The flag that gives you armor and magic resist and attack speed and the big shield with a low mana cost that also slows in a large aoe and the armor shredding q and the % damage passive on top of what for a while was unique utility is quite a combo, I would struggle to call that basic. When I think of basic I think of Garen or Annie which have straightforward abilities and effects with obvious and consistent rules. Jarvan's had a lot of utility removed and is easier to balance now but he used to have a lot more.
Jurani Aura stats and armor reduction are tools which are shared with your allies on top of strong default abilities, which is the issue with someone like nid having strong heals and strong burst simultenously for one example. He's been the best champ at several points due to the extra power so I feel its worth note.
frederikscience do you not realize her fucking passive? who the hell cares about how much shit you have in your kit if YOU CAN FUCKING HIT HER WITH IT.
Overloaded here doesn't just means have option in their kit. Ppl say Rengar overloaded? Maybe its because hes have somewhat like Empowered abilities, but rmb that he have to chooses to use which one. Or even Tahm's W, he have to chooses whether to use it on allies, enemies or minions.Unlike some champ in this list, like ekko, his W can be a stun+shield+%HP damage at the same time. Or his R, invul+untargetable+teleport+heal+damage, 5 effects in a single spell.
What about Zilean? He has a stun, a slow, a ms steroid, a guardian angel in his kit, and ability that takes away time from cooldowns and bonus xp to nearby allies. I find that pretty stacked.
.... i love this video.. how you count all the things these "overloaded" champions can do. but if you do this for all champions, just like you did with these on your list, it will sound like nearly all champions are overloaded. example: anivia, she's got a passive that not only prevents her from dieing but also revives her with hp equivalent to her egg's hp, she got an aoe slow and on activation aoe stun on her q and also a very high range. her w is a wall which not just blocks ways but also knocks back a little and increases it's width by level and her e is a on-click damage spell that deals massive bonus damge if the target is marked with your other abilities (q and ult) and finally her ult is a super large aoe slow and deals damage over time also applying the debuff which buffs her e damage. the cooldown of her ult is extremly short and it lasts as long as she got mana to support it. wow... anivia. so overloaded. pls change all champions to 1 ability or 1 attack (like auto attack)
If you look at Lissandra's kit, it's pretty overloaded imo - Ranged poke on a short cooldown that slows and passes through units. - AOE snare. - Ranged wave clear/poke that can be used to escape or initiate really effectively. - A 1.5 second stun/free zhonya's with really high damage. - Passive that lets her stay in lane for longer. imo that's more overloaded than, say, Irelia.
How about Nami? Movement speed buffs (that scale with AP), hard CC with her bubble, healing and good poke damage with her W, very nice attack booster with her E that slows (scaling with AP) on auto attacks by the champion with the E around them, and an ult that can be used as disengage or followup engage that knocks up and slows. She works with nearly every team composition, peeling disengaging playing aggressive, knockups for Yasuo, AoE lockup for poke comps/high AoE comps, and attack buffs for ADC focused comps.
I feel Azir's kit may seem overloaded however, he is dependent on his w and with it on cooldown he cant do any real damage. Although Azir has his aoe knock up/ push it is something that he needs because Azir himself is squishy and needs to wait for his w soliders to be off cooldown. Azir although he may have a dash he needs to use his w and the dash is on like a 13 or 16 second cooldown (compared to other champions you mentioned) once you use it to initiate there is almost no going back. Another major thing is that Azir has had and wtill has many bugs I've noticed that although his E might not have a range indicator there is a limited range which solider you can dash to. His drift (w->e->q) is still buggy with azir moving weirdly although it may seem like you successfully dirfted it is delayed. Also if you accidently place your solider in terrain and dash to it Azir spazzes out.
Definitely think Thresh should've been on here. His utility is pretty nuts and he'll probably never fall out of the meta like other supports do. Not one of his abilities isn't strong in its own right, and when you combine two or three of them they provide so much ability to outplay.
I feel like you could have just grouped the transformation champs (Nidalee, Jayce, Elise, Rek'Sai, Gnar) into one spot and the augmentation champs (Heimerdonger, Karma) into another spot. This would've let you talk more generally about these styles of champs, and leave more spots open for other overloaded champs.
Too bad he released this before Tahm Kench came out. If you break it down, his w does 3 things, his e does 2 things, his ult does 2 things, and his q does 3 things. He has a slow, a stun, a teleport, he has 2 ways to transport allied champions, he has healing, a shield, vision reduction on enemies that also does a ton of damage and doesn't allow them to do anything, and finally he has 2 forms of poke, being able to tongue lash and toss minions.
I just don't understand how Irelia makes in on here, but Lulu has and I'll go in order with her abilities so I don't forget any. Passive: Auto attack buff that you can transfer to allies. Q: Insane poke and massive slow q that you can lengthen with other parts of her kit. W: Either insane speed boost to targeted ally or yourself or polymorph with decent range when used on enemy champ E: Shield decent shield and auto attack buff to yourself or allied champ or the ability to lengthen your q's range and maintain vision on the enemy champion R: MASSIVE Buff and knock up with huge range which can make anyone on your team tanky or create a super tank She has shields, decent damage, auto's that scale off AP, Lane sustain against burst damage, burst damage when built full ap, speed boost, and two forms of cc. How she did not make it on this list amazes me. She's so overloaded I feel like i'm missing something.
Sona could be an honorable mention. If you can use her passive you can do the total: Heal, Buff movement speed, Nerf movement speed, - enemy damage and an AOE stun and a shield given to all allies around you.
Nice list, although there are quite a lot of champs (like Elise) that I would not call overloaded, simply becasue I would define it differently. To me an overloaded champ is a champ that can do more than he should be able to (like yasuo having his windwall, which is just an insane utility-ability on an mobile carry, it (just the ability) would make more sense one a support) but in the end you mentioned my top three overloaded champs (in no particular order): Ekko (assassin with aoe-hard cc and crazy surviveability), Yasuo (windwall), Nidalee (poke+heal+mobility=frustration)
I believe Riven has an incredibly overloaded kit. She has 2 gap closing abilities, an AoE knockup, an AoE stun, a shield that scales with attack damage, a passive that essentially doubles her basic attack damage, an AoE execute and along with this a huge degree of outplay. nerfrivenplsrito
I am legitimately suprised shaco didnt make this list, his kit has had so many nerfs because it just did everything in the past. And for talking about multiple forms so multiple abilities, how about having 4 abilities that each do 2-4 different things cause thats how shaco was designed. Q - deaggro through stealth, gap close, nuke. W - vision, hard cc, nuke. E - was originally a miss chance to champions as well, has a perma slow on it, has a nuke, and ranged slow. Ult - Can be used with proper timing to negate anything thrown at you, nukes when it dies, doubles your Es base cc, Indirectly raise your tankiness by absorbing a couple hits, Adds to his sustained damage as well. and his passive adding to his damage overall. Id say that kit is just as overloaded as anything else on this list at least.
arenaes I think a lot of assassins were left out on this list because he was looking for champions who excelled in defense and offense because of their kit. Shaco has a lot of mobility and can use his abilities to escape tight spots, but he's still a squishy champion and none of his abilities really boosted his defense. (although he does have good escape). I mean why wouldn't Zed be in the list as well?
Kevin Cravens zed actually lacks hard cc, shaco has that, shaco has almost everything overall in zeds kit to some extent in addition to additional features. shaco may do less burst but he brings more sustained damage and far more utility than zed.
I wish Elise was on the meta, very fun champion. Also, i think Vi has an overloaded kit that makes her strong in every meta, should be a no brainer on this list. Great video btw, keep up with the great content !
Taric should be on this list, too .. He has heal based on max hp, armor steroids, armor shred, 2 aoe damage tools, armor scaling and aura, targeted stun with huge dmg, ap and ad steroids for team and cooldown reduction on basics + included sheen
I expected to see Riven somewhere in the middle with her Insane mobility, Knockup, Stun, AD scaling shield and huge steroid ult. But I also agree with the list
how about *Leblanc*? Insane *damage*(Q), *mobility*(W), and *utility* (E). And her ult lets her repeat a spell depending on what she needs. She can be super bursty, VERY MOBILE, and then she can even hit you with the 2 chains.
For the most part i agree with this list, but i think Thresh deserves a spot due to his insane amount of utility. I also think Orianna deserves a mention. She has tons of damage, an aoe displace, a shield that scales off ap and her w can be used to speed your team up or slow the enemies down.
Gabe S She is kinda overloaded but also lack PROPER sustain and has the flaw of being reliant on the ball. But yes she can be OP with the right player/team.
Gabe S orianna lacks hard mobility and sustain to be here. champions with only damage/cc/shield are not nearly as overloaded as champs like ekko: damage/2 aoe slows/aoe stunn/shield/movespeed/double-dash/vision/untargettable/utility on ult(insta back 2 lane or something)/heal on ulti
I think thresh should be nr 1 . Best hook in game, one of the strongest disengages with his lantern/ult/e his q and e stop literally every jump. Great engage , great disengage + range. Thats the reason why he is the nr 1 support since his release, every game you see a thresh, cause his kit is just so guud
I see nobody wants to mention release ezreal. One ability damaged all enemies, healed all teamates, reduced atk speed of all enemies, and increased atk speed of all allies it hit. ONE ABILITY!
What about kassadin? A slow, a channel interruption plus shield, a auto attack reset that restores mana, a 15% magic reduction passive, and a ult that takes away the use of using flash, that also stacks and puts on more bonus damage. Not to metion he's been nerfed to hell
The problem with overloaded champs is that they are very hard to play well most of the time. I've seen some good Jayce's but a great Jayce is pretty rare. Players will need good game knowledge to play them decently as their versatility requires different playstyles. You build Jayce depending on the matchup, if they have someone like Yasuo you don't build to go full QE poke dmg but hammer burst dmg.
I'm surprised Riven isn't on this list. She has a knock-up, a stun, an incredible damage steroid, % missing health damage, a shield that scales off AD, all coupled with incredible mobility, by having 4 dashes.
Ayyy lmao If you compare season 1 with todays champion, there are a lot more flexible than they were before. I even thought that riot would never introduce champions that can damage the team or other teammembers (like bard). And he said most overloaded. That means compared to all other champion. A champ could be already "overloaded", because he has 2 more skills than the rest.
Robert Ostrowski In a way it does. Overloaded Kit basically means Overpowered Kit. Doesn't make the champoin overpowered if the numbers (Coolddown/Damage/Range/Costs) are right. Many of the champions on the list went through a lot of nerfs over the years showing just how hard to balance these Champions are.
I'm surprised lulu isn't on this list. Slow, silence, polymorph, aoe knockup that increases the targets health, a shield, and a passive that shoots more projectiles for her AA
Gragas used to have a pretty overloaded kit before his rework, mana and health sustain, waveclear, ranged poke, tankiness, and engage/disengage from range.
Pretty good list, but no Lulu? She's got a slow, shield, vision grant, knockup/AoE slow, speed boost, polymorph, all of which can be self-cast, ally cast, or cast on enemies.
Lulu could deserve a spot, since she 1. has basically 6 abilities, depending on who you cast it on 2. can play every single role in the game (yes, even as jungler and adc lulu does a pretty good job) 3. she has an insane amount of utility: a targeted silence and blind that lasts for years, a shield, a heal + max health buff, a bonus ap on hit damage buff for allies, a speed buff, a slow 4. Hybrid on hit damage All in all, she's basically kog maw + teemo + soraka in one Elise is a good Nr 1 though
+Joshua El-Samalouti (MaebaraAnime) I wouldn't consider Lulu overloaded, because what would make her "overloaded" you have to choose between. I think you have to choose between whimsy and polymorph, right? Having options is different than having everything in one ability. Like ekko's shield, which has an aoe stun, a shield, and execute damage all in one.
Jayson Frankrone Hmm...you might be right, nevertheless there's really not many champions in the game that can play as every role. Though jungling is a bit difficult, since you gotta kite the camps, you don't know how many times I triggered that goddamn health reset bar xD
hahaha definitely, however you really try hard enough you can basically take any champion anywhere. You just have to play to their strengths. Zyra is actually a popular off-meta jungler, easily player mid/supp, toplane could still be played a mage, and her snare+knockup make her a viable self-peeling adc.
haha, yes, teemo as well, people play him as a poke support sometimes, he's definitely viable in top and mid lane, his hybrid damage makes him a good adc and I heard from people playing him in jungle as well.
If we are all going to be like the other comments: WHAT ABOUT TF?! -Q goes 3 ways -Mana refund -AOE slow -Stun -Attack Speed buff -Global vision -5500 range TP Come on guys, don't mention everything on every champ! Multiple options/functionalities doesn't mean something is overloaded.
How about Twisted Fate, Stun, slow, mana sustain, waweclear, vision on all enemies, huge range teleport, on hit effect, bonus attack speed and bonus gold on lasthits, i think that' s pretty overloaded too
Zac?? 4 AOE spells, 2 are slows (his ult slows for 1 second after the knockup), 2 are knockups, percent health damage on his W, the longest jump in the game, incredible sustain and a revive. Surely he should be in there somewhere
Notice how many of them are recent champions... Riot is so focused on being new and unique that they're giving every champion crazy mechanics that make for a flat out confusing character.
Kinda surprised by this list. Agree with Yasuo, Azir, Gnar, Jayce, Ekko. Also understand what you meant with Irelia and RekSai. What I slightly don't agree with is Nidalee and Lee Sin.. cause they are just harder to play but not overloaded. Their spells feel natural and join in chains so it's like other champions just they have to use correctly twice as many abilities. The one champion that I ceirtanly wouldn't put here is Elise. She feels completely fine. Her abilities complement each other and feel natural for both her and her opponents. Probably because she doesn't have any real passive ability or transform effect like Jayce for example. I think champions like the new Gragas, Kalista, new Ashe, Rengar, new Ryze and Tahm Kench would make more sense here since they have so much artificial limitations and abilities added to them that they feel kinda broken. Rito had these cool ideas with them but instead of balancing the ideas they just use the overpowered versions and then nerf the champion in some other way (like gragas Q on minions, Kalista basic attacks, Ashe passive + Q, Ryze patches).
Thresh would've been on this list if he still had his old ultimate, when his entire box could be popped and cause the damage and the 99% slow. Thresh's q has a fairly big hitbox and is fairly easy to land, and his cc is rediculous
G6 Liara I think that AD Elise can be crazy strong with Warrior --> Triforce --> Blade --> Frozen Mallet --> Tank. Hydra is fun on Elise but just not worth it considering how useless it is when you go ranged.
You still get the damage and the lifesteal from that item though.. so completely useless.. nah, it's viable, considering the benefits you get when you go melee
Thresh? hook/dash, stun, aoe cc, a passive that gives him 200% ad as bonus magic damage, a passive that gives him a stupid amount of ap and armor mid-late game, 99% slow, cage, shields for himself and others and an ability that allows other players in close range to teleport to you. :| sounds like a lot
Riven? Passive: After every ability she uses her autoattacks do more damage. Q: 3 dashes, final one knocks up. W: AOE Stun that deals damage. E: Another dash that gives her a shield that scales of AD. R: TONS OF DAMAGE+very big "skill shot" that has execute damage. wtf rito pls
I can understand Rek'Sai but some of the options he listed to coming with an overloaded kit is kinda in and out. The "vision" isn't really vision its a ping in a direction which can be easily used as a baiting tool to bait the landshark making it a very in out kinda thing. Its honestly a balance to the whole 'Shes underground' thing which kinda fits her design. The true damage on her e, I can agree with as well as the global teleport. No denying reksai is overloaded, but heimer is more overloaded than she is. Line Skillshot with Automated Turrets (note the beam is an auto aimed skillshot so to call it a skillshot is.... eh), large scale damaging w that can be used to blow up one person or spread in a skillful way to help clear waves like a boss, a (hard) skillshot that arcs and slows those it clips, stuns those it lands directly on.. Then his ultimate just overloads it more with an Even more powerful turret, instead of 1 wave of rockets you got the entire missle system in the world (jokes), and a bouncing, Aoe Slow and Stun grenade of DOOM (in teamfights.)
what about shyvanna with the new burnout buff?, the abbility itself has : movement speed, dps, basic attack steroids and duration increase per basic attack and if i recall correctly it inflictd increased damage to minions and neutral monters so bs, she didnt need that buff
Many people never realize how overloaded Shaco's kit is...
His Q is a blink, invis, and guaranteed crit.
W. Is a Fear, a physical unit (can block skillshots), a source of damage, map/zone control, and general vision.
E is a projectile that deals a large amount of damage, as well as a slow, and Attack speed debuff to jungle minions.
Ult causes mind games, can dodge massive bursts (Karthus and Zed ult are examples), can let you walk over thin walls, and is also another unit to block damage as well as dealing damage at the same time (a lot if AP).
fuck off no one cares
+Zectorr™ fuck off no one cares
i agree with u man, he is annoying as fuck and he has extreme escape habilities that can easily turn the fight for him
+Alex Young i agree some of these but not all of it. first of all.
Q = blink? really ? with that range especially ? invis ? can counter with pink ward for 75 gold and "free" Trinket. Only crit makes sense.
W = Fear ? oh boy... you have to wait atleast 2 second for it after using W. I agree about skillshot block. Source of dmg only if you stack them in choke points.
E = Not dealing large amount of damage if you compare this ability to other champs has. Especially rengar or kha (specially kha's Q)
R = Shaco needs that ultimate cause of highly squishy champ he is. Withouthis ultimate shaco would be miserable. Btw Shaco's ultimate not countering zed's ult anymore.
In order to deal high amount of dps shaco needs a ton of gold. atleast two or three times than rengar,kha or zed needs. Those champs that i give as examples you can have both dps+tanky items and you can still 1 shot almost every champ in the game. But as shaco you can't do that. Shaco needs atleast 2-3 items to kill an ADC. In order to scale late game you have to choose witch build are you gonna follow. Assasin,apc or bruiser. each roles have its weakness. If you go as assasin you'll gonna be the most squishy champ in the game at late phase. For apc you have to rely on those box and hope enemy team make bad calls to bait in those box. If you go as bruiser you may scale well in late but that depends on enemy team comp. Even in those situations rengar/kha or zed scales better than shaco with less gold. (main reason ı'm giving those champs as example because they're all assasins btw)
Berke Sengil And don't forget little things like his W:
You have to stop...
So if rengar is near and you place W when running, you stop for a moment while doing so, and.... he can catch up does not matter whether he gets his ebola on you or does not...
Meaning you can't dodge skillshots every time and so on.
Oh no shaco Q'd what do I do? oh right rengar ults...
Kids just can't play this game anymore without turning off their logical module just to give enough power to flame troll and QQ one.
Ryze ofc.... his Q is just way too Overloaded... hahahaha
Kevin Lige Are you Phreak?
Kevin Lige omg, TONS OF DAMAGE
Cytrem Puns of damage
Kevin Lige That escalated quickly
Kevin Lige 144th like, master race arrived.
Basically every single new champion have overloaded kits
Jerry Su has*
Ammar Anwar fuck you*
well excuse me for raising the boys grammar level......
Ammar Anwar 9/11 was a inside job
Sitback an*
What about the most overloaded ability?
Charm is a skillshot, with high range (975), deals damage, stuns, slows by 50% and it even used to increase damage taken by 20%!
If an enemy is hit by charm it will walk directly towards you; if it has no vision of you, it will stand still (good to know if something is warded); if there's walls, it will choose the shortest path to you; if the enemy is in melee range, it will walk away from you.
The slow is fixed and cannot be affected by Rylai or slow resistances (items, masteries or Yi ult).
Also, it's the worst possible way to spend Ahri's passive.
Damn I love this ability.
Skillshots not anymore mate, it doesnt apply the damage increase and im pretty sure they walk towards you no motter what now
oh my bad didnt see used to, just thought he thought it still did the increase mb mb
Skillshots Fizz's pole is probably the most overloaded single move IMO. Just as good of an escape as vlads pool but instead of a 20+ sec cd its up every 5 or 6 seconds, slows, deals GOOD dmg in an area and you can change direction half way thru in case you made a poor decision initially. Makes the entire champ incredibly noob friendly since you can get caught out of position all game and barely have any deaths.
Bear Experiment It only slows if you stand there on it and let it do its own thing rather than being used to actually gap close.
IHateSchool ; - ; I made it on Paint, lol
How do you not mention riven amd thresh o.o
mihuuuu Because their kit's aren't that overloaded?
MultiShadowdragon What does overloaded mean? What makes a champ overloaded?
MultiShadowdragon the insane jokes right there.. She has stun, high mobility, a fucking shield THAT SCALES WITH AD and if you're below half hp her ult will rek u
Cytrem Being "Overloaded" means that they have basically everything in the game in their kit. Shields, executes, dashes, CC, sustain, heals, steroids, poke, gapclosers, true damage, vision, etc.
Machine Herald Aka Riven with wards?
Where is riven?? No resource AT ALL 4 dashes, a knockup, a stun, passive sheen STACKING, ult has 0 CD And gives her A LOT of ad, AOE execute dmg, 0 cooldowns
Oh and her dash is a shield too which scales 1:1 WITH AD
Spind Riven =/= OP
Spind 3 dashes on Q, a knock-up on Q, a stun on W, another dash on E and an AD steroid on ult which is also an execute. Shes sort of overloaded :P
Lord Körnersemmel i have to agree riven should have been on this list.
WhatTheDusk aoe execute based of missing health. kappa
Kinda surprised Thresh didn't make the list
Jeffrey Chan yeah, he have EVERYTHING that a sup need
He is pretty over loaded but then, supports are supports for their utility. Bard has heal, ult, stun/slow. Leona has like seven billion stuns. morgana has her ridiculous binding, a shield that stops CC, and a stun on her ult. Thresh has a pull, much like Naut pull actually, a shield with his lantern, a big slowing field, and a knockback with flay. So, he does do everything, but he's not as specialized as other supports. Pick Leona for hard CC, pick Soraka for heals, pick Janna for protecting carries, but Thresh is just Thresh, he works in almost all team comps.
thresh has heal????
Thresh in fact does not have a heal... so idk what you're referring too
Jeffrey Chan thresh used to be looked at as the definition of overloaded. engage, dissengage, a shield, massive peel and some free dmg on top of that. every single single ability in his kit is extremely versetile. Q: engage, lockdown, peel( to some degree). W: shield, massive dissengage to a single champion no matter how out of position they are. E: AOE, get enemys closer, get enemies away, keep enemies slowed down... . R: massive slow on multiple enemies for peel or lockdown.
OVERLOADED
Hear him say "Yasuo played every now and then" I pause the video and look at the date and think "Damn alot has changed in 6 month I guess..."
Yeah when i play draft i ALWAYS ban him because when i go solo queue he is played... EVERY GAME
+Miss Fortune Yasuo is very popular just like lee sin.
I come from the future and all I can say is that yasuo is cancerous and pls end my suffering
What about Taric? You got that complicated skill-required stun, an AoE of damage, and umm... You got a heal. Then your ult increases tank stats. Most of the time, I can't execute the best Taric combo (Flash, stun, AoE)
Steampunk Doge that's just becuse you have to flash while you press w, y'know, animation cancel. No reaction time, broken stuff. totally.
3:14 i am speechless of what Yasuo did there just no words
I thought lulu was going to be in there, pretty much all of her moves have at least two functions or ways to be used. aoe slow and damage, shield/damage + vision, speed up for her allies, polymorph, increase health + knockup + aoe slow around target
I didn't mean to main Ekko and Jayce I just found their skillcap and learning curve high and now have climbed faster than ever after near mastering them.
Udyr is pretty overloaded and incredible hard to play.
Hard to play? Lmao
hard to play. aha haha. ahhahahhahahahhahahah
***** You got the joke.
kappa award I guess.
Yi can also be in the list in my opinion, his kit consist of a Dodge Anything Q, Damage Reduc while healing, Immune to Slows, and True Damage and passive double attacks. His Q can basically dodge anything, even Warwick's Ultimate, if you time it perfectly. His W can basically shut down bursts that could be fatal as well as passively heal up every once in a while without going back to base. His E basically overpowers most champions in early game enabling him to secure his position in late game, snowballing like a avalanche, along with his passive he can easily dominate. His Ult basically is just a double edge sword, to run or to chase that is the question, give him immense chasing capabilities as well as escapes in addition to his Q as well. He can pretty much be listed, because of his versatility in combat and the plays he can make.
rengar? aoe. heal. root. slow. invisibility. idk just my suggestion. Well we better nerf irelia then
Jack Wood He doesent have many tools, jumps in deals damage, dies--- he can chose how to do that, but i wouldn't call his kit "overloaded", just cancerous.
DandyRocker
dude. a champ that is cancerous is malz. but i see what you mean. hes alot like diana. kill one target instantly then have no escapes
Jack Wood Rengar is just poorly designed. Jump out of thin air, 1 shot the carry while they cant move. No counter play. an exclamation mark above my head for .1 second doesn't do anything. Just a bad design.
Malz has Aoe and CC and dmg. He has no built in flash or any escape, and to suppress he has to sit still and against decent players can barely be used in team fights (usually to peel for yourself if at all) Malz is an example of decent character design, trade strengths for weaknesses, unlike the characters on this list, and some that were missed like Riven and Thresh.
Bear Experiment
you idiot.... He does have counter play. pink wards? oracles? CC?
Your going to pink ward every square inch of the map? CC him before you can see him? The carry being jumped is going to buy an oracles, only to see him landing on their face when its too late...
Who are you calling an idiot, even Morello and Riot acknowledges he has no actual counter play.
Could've mentioned Tryn. Tryn's passive gives crit, his Q is a heal as well as giving him flat AD plus more AD based on missing health. W reduces enemies' AD and slows if they're facing away from Tryn, his E is a gap closer with a good base and ratio plus each crit reduces its cooldown, and then his R prevents death.
when playing against the champ, i'm sure that gnar feels like he has the most stuffs.
I'm impressed that you didn't put thresh on this list. His kit versatility is off the charts! Literally all of his abilities have duel purpose, either offense or defensive, and are basically just given free extra CC effects on top of the things they offer thresh
wut about rumble? he overloads a lot
Derp Trollson You deserve top comment
What about Lulu?
Six abilities, a skillshot that is shot from two points, depending on the location of pix, and which can fly into any direction of your choice (but it's very hard to aim if you want to shoot the two lances into different directions), a polymorph that slows, a shield that adds damage based on your ability power, a point and click ability that does damage and gives vision, the relocation of pix and finally an ultimate that adds a slowing field, gives additional health and has a knockup.
She is just my fav champ :D
Not my most played one (that's Gnar), but my favourite.
Referring to roles she is really versatile (you can play any role).
Right now my favourite role is toplane Lulu.
However because of the utility midlane Lulu works too. And, also because of this reason, the ganks of jungle Lulu are really effective. Plus you can solo drake at around five minutes into the game.
Another advantage is that you can laneswitch very well.
She has no AD scalings, however her base values and especially the utility of her abilities, are even for AD builds sufficient.
I think we have it all wrong here are we forgetting about Blitzcrank? He has a grab, knockup, a silence..... thats it.
Spaceman Spiffy Blitzcrank's kit is the opposite of overloaded.
Ashuvain yeah, he's basicly a one trick poney.
Fail your pull and you become an oversize minion for 10 secs. Not to mention the disaster that may come from pulling an amumu, reksai, kennen, etc.
An example of a support with an overloaded kit would be Thresh. I'm actually surprised he didn't make the list, unless I missed it.
Ashuvain That was the joke, I was thinking of the exact least interesting kit possible so I used his.
Spaceman Spiffy Oh. I would have gone with Taric personally :P
Pretty much every champ that can amplify it's spells in any way to make them work differently: Renekton, Karma, Rengar, the OLD Sona. And also Lulu since she can shoot her Q in two directions, it can also be shot from an ally or an enemy, her W is a polymorph or a movspeed buff, her E is a shield or mark on an enemy and essentially a second spot to shoot her Q from and her ult is... well... a knockup that gives health and I think it also has an aura of some sort but i might be wrong.
"in fact, alot of the champions on this list are weak right now"
- "At number 10 we have Irelia"
- "At number 9 we have Nidalee"
- "At number 8 we have Rek'Sai"
lololololololololol
What about Janna?
Knock up
Heal
Another knock up
Slow
Shield
Gives AD
Gives mobility
GoldenMonsterHD Leave her alone
GoldenMonsterHD not enough
GoldenMonsterHD and in turn is one of the squishiest champions in the game
ryeas201 assasin ekko is a squishy champion as well. being squishy doesn't mean they can't be overloaded. Heck even nidalee can be squishy (unless built bruiser) or for that matter most champions with near to no items. also there isn't 2 knockups +GoldenMonsterHD one is a knockback.
im saying to compensate for her kit they made her extremely squishy the balance her out
Everyone is talking about how overloaded the new champs are in league, but did i mention Invoker from Dota 2 as 14 abilities? There are also heroes like Doom who have the potential to have 6 abilities. This tends to get overshadowed by the fact that Dota has different items, so even a hero like Necrophos with two castable abilities can seem interesting to play. This shows how dimensional champion picks are in League, where more revolves around the champion and not other aspects of the game like terrain or items.
This didn't age well, lmao
I love riven but she has gotta be one of the most overloaded ad champions in the game. She has a sheen that stacks up to 3 times coupled with a q to work with it. She has an aoe stun on a super short cooldown, a shield that SCALES OFF OF AD that also comes with a dash, and an ult that boosts her range and attack damage for a period of time that also had a an aoe execute tied to it.
Gangplank:
True dmg, movement speed, extra gold income, sustain, cc removal, massive crits, slows, passive resets, global ult presence.
But I love GP so it's k.
Probably the most retarded Pick in this current Meta.
+yung deutschland by far the best champion ever made 310k on him rn
FPS RPG :( the feels to play against him.
+yung deutschland he's not tjat hard to lane but a late game monster
I think an honorable mention would be Lulu. A passive that can change her build path entirely and deals nice damage, a slow , a ms buff/polymorph (Also the poly slows) Her e is a shield that may grant lulu passive /a reveal damaging thingy. Long range comes from her e q combos .Ult is a knockup with an aura slow and that hp that cant be countered by ignite.
I really don't know what you mean with overloaded and what's bad about it.
Moba characters are altogether simple and LoL is not a very complex Moba.
Not even something like Invoker is "overloaded" - just a little more complicated.
In the entire video no explanation, no justification why these characters are "overloaded". People have no problem playing them - they are fun to play - so what the fuck is the problem?! Not every character must be as boring as Warwick and Garen.
Taxtro overloaded as in their kit has substantially more options than the average character. if you had to think of all the things that warwicks kit let you do, it would be like "well i have passive lifesteal, point and click lifesteal, attack speed buff, i see low health enemies and gain movespeed while running towards them, and a point and click suppress that does damage" whereas playing nidalee, you have alot of options coming from her kit. long rage poke, throw down traps which give vision for a short time and vision of enemy when triggered do damage and apply her passive, heal/attack speed buff, then cougar form which has a mobility spell that deals aoe damage, an AoE damage, an execute and her passive which essentially resets her pounce and increase damage on her q, and if triggered in human for, resets aspect of the cougar cd. And im sure i didnt get everything. So thats an overloaded kit
Over loaded kits arent a bad thing. Thats why all the new champs rot is releasing have overloaded kits. Because they are fun to play. I personally main nidalee (thats why she was my example). Riot is even reworking champions to give them more in their kit. Look at ashe and sion. Two champions that were reworked recently and given more to their kit. Because overloaded kits are fun. The only "issue" is balancing an overloaded kit is hard because low elos dont know how to utilize the champions entire kit and higher elos do so they are super strong in diamond and in bronze, everyone is like THIS CHAMPION IS SO WEAK, RITO PLS. But overloaded kits very fun to play. Thats why riot keeps making them.
DowhopZigZagJelloPopRudyZiggetyZaggity Puddin also some champ like annie is easy to learn and easy to master. you can only do so much as annie, doesnt matter if you played her once or a billion times.
im an azir main and he has an insane potential, in both damage and utility.
riot wants to reward good players and skill and overall knowledge of your champion
agreed
+Taxtro Can't tell if serious. First of all, he never said that it was a bad or a good thing. He just mentions champions with overloaded kits. What an overloaded kit is? Basically, a kit that gives you so many tools to work with. A champion that can gap close, damage increase, stun, slow, escape, heal etc etc is one of those champions that have an overloaded kit.
Check your basic ADC. They rely mostly on its basic attacks, and maybe some of its abilities to deal extra damage or help itself in its kiting process, be that either through a straight repositioning (Vayne), a SpellShield (Sivir), infinite dashing (Kalista) or rooting (Jinx / Caitlyn).
Now, compare those utilities with someone like Gnar. Gnar has a long range slow, which also reduces its cooldown, has a stacking %health damage that increeases his movement speed, a dash that inreases his attack speed, during which time he gets overall bonus attack and movement speed and attack range, while he can also transform into mega gnar to grant him more tankiness, healing and HP regen, more AD, a stun, a dash, a slow and a powerful AoE enemy repositioning that has the potenial to stun.
That an overloaded kit. Slows, stuns, self-buffs, dashes, bonus damage and so on. That's not a bad thing. It is what it is.
What is with Poppy? Poppy has the most op kit I have ever seen, just alone her passive , it makes her almost invulnerable at low hp, her Q is a absolute Tank-killing machine. She does get through her W even more tankyness and mobility with a damage applification.
She also has a stun within a Dash which is sometimes not that easy to pull off .But still. Then at last her Ultimate,which gives her even absolute invurnablility against almost anything and a DFG like effect on a single target.
Not overloaded just does a lot of damage
Tann nguyen Does a lot of damage and takes none xD
xSdm200x Not overloaded just the worst designed champ ever.
xSdm200x Poppy has a respectfully weak early game - a Champion like her has to have a weak early game because of her undeniable late game.
Its kinda obvious that more than 4 skills make an overloaded kit...
maybe tahm will be overloaded too.
thresh can be considered overloaded...
problem is that an OP champ or mechanic can be considered as overloadiong some champs in some way and the discussion starts there,
cassiopeia have a "simple" kit, his new passive overload a bit her skills,and make her arguably overloaded, syndra got the same thing, kha zix too, viktor too,
then is about to anyone decide if it is overloaded or not,
for example new Ryze and his crazy several reworks overload him a bit,since it is on continuous changes, but it is a simple straighforward rework, yet a bit overloaded (30%CDR? WTF)...
Dark Helel Tis ... is pretty true ... but i think this is mostly an opinion based thing like i personally think Darius is a bit overloaded thank to his passive being a free ignite. But again simple kit.
Dark Helel lets just consider everyone overloaded
Like just argh
I think the thing i find the most annoying about stuff like this is it never leads to anything good
All you here is bitch this and bitch that
Yes the kit has a lot, I think really only Kalista frusterates me right now
But that doesn't make them unbeatable,
Strong yes (Sometimes strong)
Unbeatable no,
Dark Helel This is not the definition of being overloaded I believe. I mean ok, the new ryze is still insane, but he still is all about "IMA GONNA CLICK ALL MEH BUTTENS ON YOU!!1!". Syndra, and maybe kha zix and viktor aren't overloaded. They just slowly amplify their spells, but simply by adding extra burst and / or cc, things they already have. Their kits and play-style are still pretty straightforward, and while Kha may find some different uses, syndra and viktor are all about bursting targets.
Dark Helel tahm will be overloaded. thats not a bad thing. Overloaded champs are fun to play. Thats why all the new champs riot release are overloaded. Because no one wants to play mordekaiser anymore. Not enough in his kit. As for cass, syndra, and kha, i would say they have more of a style of playing now rather than an overloaded kit. Kha is all about isolation. Picking off targets and reset jumping out. syndra revolves around having dark orbs out on the battlefield as all of her abilities revolve around them. Cass is an okay champion but a moneter if your poisoned and her new passive puts emphasis on that, With jayce its like "super powerful long range poke, team speed up, adc-attack speed buff, strong aoe slow and gap closer, aoe magic damage, fuckton of percent health, and shred armor and has pretty consistent movespeed buffs" so he has lot of options in a teamfight. Kass is looking to get a nice ult off and get to work on pumping out e's. Kha wants to catch the adc out of position, jump in, death, and jump back out. Syndra is trying to get damage on anyone close enough wth q's, maybe land a nice aoe stun and ult the squishes. But when i play nid i can either go for q's, set up qs for hunt on the adc, heal teamates, kit back with autos and throw traps, just cougar and swipe-takedown the closets target, or jump in and just all in a squishy. Its just the amount of options, but youre right, the champs you listed defiantly dont have underloaded kits
Dark Helel the two reasons you hear overloaded in a bad way is because 1. balancing is hard for an overloaded kit and the release of overloaded kits means they will always be strong their first two weeks and 2 when people lose to someone because of a stupid mistake, they say " WHAT THE FUCK RIOT, THAT CHAMPIONS IS SO OP. THEY HAVE A and then they list every ability that champion has to prove to themselves that they lost because balancing issues. These people could make garen sound overloaded
Heimer on that rek'sai penta was such a good guy. He played as well as her but still literally gave her the penta.
Elise... top spot.... rightttttttt
Jungle main and even after the buffs I still think she's got no place in the current meta.
Yvaelle 1. he never said elise is in the meta right now.
2. no one gives a shit if you main jungle, that doesnt make your arguement any better
Horst Schlemmer For a toolkit to be overloaded, it would need to be _too_ broad - and that should express itself as champion power: otherwise it's just _loaded_. She has lots of moves, but none of them are great at what they do. She has lots of mediocre options. I would sooner argue that Thresh is overloaded, or Lee Sin - despite having fewer abilities - because they can be used in different ways.
Rappel is a slow / telegraphed engage, and a terrible escape - it does those things - it doesn't do them well. Cocoon is a crappy stun. Neurotoxin/Bite are poor max/missing hp attacks. She's not tanky, but she's all AA damage now. Loaded sure, overloaded? No.
Yvaelle i dont even know why you were explaining this to me now :D anyway, arent you that diamond 1 9gagger?
Yvaelle Sure, if we go by your definition Elise would not be considered an overloaded champion. However, the reason she is in such a crappy state IS because her kit is fundamentally overloaded. She had to be nerfed, nerfed, nerfed some more, gutted, and then nerfed again because she was everywhere for like two seasons. In her prime, she was certainly an overloaded champion because all of her tools were effective. Hence why she was being played pretty much everywhere.
Yvaelle ye, elise got olaf´d thats the point
Just an FYI, as Gnar's forms are tied to his passive, he actually has 8 abilities (not all actives).
Garen: HP Regen, Silence, Slow Removal, Silence, Armor & Magic resist passive, 30% dmg reduction active, spin to win and op ult
Shen The Eye Of Twilight Gold III
One more thing: Hard Yasuo counter. Like WTF Rito. A samurai with a high-skill curve gets countered by spin-to-win beginner champ? WTF. This is what I flame about Yasuo.
Pretty sure Jarvan is worth mentioning since he's been off and on as king of the jungle as the ultimate tank/fighter hybrid with loads of tools for years even despite taking tons and tons of nerfs, he's only recently fallen off since his power has been cut back quite a lot.
Jeremy West Jarvan does not have an overloaded kit in any way. He's incredibly basic.
Jurani
The flag that gives you armor and magic resist and attack speed and the big shield with a low mana cost that also slows in a large aoe and the armor shredding q and the % damage passive on top of what for a while was unique utility is quite a combo, I would struggle to call that basic.
When I think of basic I think of Garen or Annie which have straightforward abilities and effects with obvious and consistent rules. Jarvan's had a lot of utility removed and is easier to balance now but he used to have a lot more.
So basically a lot of free stats. Also the flag no longer gives armor. His abilities don't have the versatility to consider his kit overloaded.
Jurani
Aura stats and armor reduction are tools which are shared with your allies on top of strong default abilities, which is the issue with someone like nid having strong heals and strong burst simultenously for one example. He's been the best champ at several points due to the extra power so I feel its worth note.
Jeremy West He's not versatile.
Strong or not, at the end of the day he's still not much more than a one-trick pony dunk master hunk.
No kalista?;(
Martin Toth Her kit is not overloaded. She has damage, and is best with a duo partner...
Not overloaded in any way, shape or form. The fact that she needs her partner to ult is the reason.
frederikscience do you not realize her fucking passive?
who the hell cares about how much shit you have in your kit if YOU CAN FUCKING HIT HER WITH IT.
***** What?
The Baws
ever seen a good kalista?
or a scripting kalista?
nothing
and i repeat
NOTHING
WILL
HIT
THAT
BITCH.
Overloaded here doesn't just means have option in their kit. Ppl say Rengar overloaded? Maybe its because hes have somewhat like Empowered abilities, but rmb that he have to chooses to use which one. Or even Tahm's W, he have to chooses whether to use it on allies, enemies or minions.Unlike some champ in this list, like ekko, his W can be a stun+shield+%HP damage at the same time. Or his R, invul+untargetable+teleport+heal+damage, 5 effects in a single spell.
What about Zilean? He has a stun, a slow, a ms steroid, a guardian angel in his kit, and ability that takes away time from cooldowns and bonus xp to nearby allies. I find that pretty stacked.
"Lee Sin is not in the meta anymore"
Are we playing the same game?
.... i love this video.. how you count all the things these "overloaded" champions can do. but if you do this for all champions, just like you did with these on your list, it will sound like nearly all champions are overloaded. example:
anivia, she's got a passive that not only prevents her from dieing but also revives her with hp equivalent to her egg's hp, she got an aoe slow and on activation aoe stun on her q and also a very high range. her w is a wall which not just blocks ways but also knocks back a little and increases it's width by level and her e is a on-click damage spell that deals massive bonus damge if the target is marked with your other abilities (q and ult) and finally her ult is a super large aoe slow and deals damage over time also applying the debuff which buffs her e damage. the cooldown of her ult is extremly short and it lasts as long as she got mana to support it.
wow... anivia. so overloaded. pls change all champions to 1 ability or 1 attack (like auto attack)
If you look at Lissandra's kit, it's pretty overloaded imo
- Ranged poke on a short cooldown that slows and passes through units.
- AOE snare.
- Ranged wave clear/poke that can be used to escape or initiate really effectively.
- A 1.5 second stun/free zhonya's with really high damage.
- Passive that lets her stay in lane for longer.
imo that's more overloaded than, say, Irelia.
When and on what ability did Lee Sin have armor shred? I can't remember him having that.
How about Nami? Movement speed buffs (that scale with AP), hard CC with her bubble, healing and good poke damage with her W, very nice attack booster with her E that slows (scaling with AP) on auto attacks by the champion with the E around them, and an ult that can be used as disengage or followup engage that knocks up and slows. She works with nearly every team composition, peeling disengaging playing aggressive, knockups for Yasuo, AoE lockup for poke comps/high AoE comps, and attack buffs for ADC focused comps.
I feel Azir's kit may seem overloaded however, he is dependent on his w and with it on cooldown he cant do any real damage. Although Azir has his aoe knock up/ push it is something that he needs because Azir himself is squishy and needs to wait for his w soliders to be off cooldown. Azir although he may have a dash he needs to use his w and the dash is on like a 13 or 16 second cooldown (compared to other champions you mentioned) once you use it to initiate there is almost no going back.
Another major thing is that Azir has had and wtill has many bugs
I've noticed that although his E might not have a range indicator there is a limited range which solider you can dash to. His drift (w->e->q) is still buggy with azir moving weirdly although it may seem like you successfully dirfted it is delayed. Also if you accidently place your solider in terrain and dash to it Azir spazzes out.
Definitely think Thresh should've been on here. His utility is pretty nuts and he'll probably never fall out of the meta like other supports do. Not one of his abilities isn't strong in its own right, and when you combine two or three of them they provide so much ability to outplay.
I feel like you could have just grouped the transformation champs (Nidalee, Jayce, Elise, Rek'Sai, Gnar) into one spot and the augmentation champs (Heimerdonger, Karma) into another spot.
This would've let you talk more generally about these styles of champs, and leave more spots open for other overloaded champs.
Too bad he released this before Tahm Kench came out. If you break it down, his w does 3 things, his e does 2 things, his ult does 2 things, and his q does 3 things. He has a slow, a stun, a teleport, he has 2 ways to transport allied champions, he has healing, a shield, vision reduction on enemies that also does a ton of damage and doesn't allow them to do anything, and finally he has 2 forms of poke, being able to tongue lash and toss minions.
It's no wonder that it's no secret that it's no surprise that this champion is overloaded
I just don't understand how Irelia makes in on here, but Lulu has and I'll go in order with her abilities so I don't forget any.
Passive: Auto attack buff that you can transfer to allies.
Q: Insane poke and massive slow q that you can lengthen with other parts of her kit.
W: Either insane speed boost to targeted ally or yourself or polymorph with decent range when used on enemy champ
E: Shield decent shield and auto attack buff to yourself or allied champ or the ability to lengthen your q's range and maintain vision on the enemy champion
R: MASSIVE Buff and knock up with huge range which can make anyone on your team tanky or create a super tank
She has shields, decent damage, auto's that scale off AP, Lane sustain against burst damage, burst damage when built full ap, speed boost, and two forms of cc. How she did not make it on this list amazes me. She's so overloaded I feel like i'm missing something.
Sona could be an honorable mention.
If you can use her passive you can do the total: Heal, Buff movement speed, Nerf movement speed, - enemy damage and an AOE stun and a shield given to all allies around you.
I think the fact that it took you like 20 solid seconds to list all of Jayce's utilities and passives makes him the most overloaded.
Nice list, although there are quite a lot of champs (like Elise) that I would not call overloaded, simply becasue I would define it differently. To me an overloaded champ is a champ that can do more than he should be able to (like yasuo having his windwall, which is just an insane utility-ability on an mobile carry, it (just the ability) would make more sense one a support) but in the end you mentioned my top three overloaded champs (in no particular order): Ekko (assassin with aoe-hard cc and crazy surviveability), Yasuo (windwall), Nidalee (poke+heal+mobility=frustration)
I still don't understand that Azir combo that bjergsen did. Can someone explain?
How about Elise? You said any champions with 2 forms are bound to be overloaded?
I believe Riven has an incredibly overloaded kit.
She has 2 gap closing abilities, an AoE knockup, an AoE stun, a shield that scales with attack damage, a passive that essentially doubles her basic attack damage, an AoE execute and along with this a huge degree of outplay.
nerfrivenplsrito
I honestly think the fizz has such an overloaded kit. You can spam everything and hit 2 abilities and get a pentakill.
I am legitimately suprised shaco didnt make this list, his kit has had so many nerfs because it just did everything in the past. And for talking about multiple forms so multiple abilities, how about having 4 abilities that each do 2-4 different things cause thats how shaco was designed. Q - deaggro through stealth, gap close, nuke. W - vision, hard cc, nuke. E - was originally a miss chance to champions as well, has a perma slow on it, has a nuke, and ranged slow. Ult - Can be used with proper timing to negate anything thrown at you, nukes when it dies, doubles your Es base cc, Indirectly raise your tankiness by absorbing a couple hits, Adds to his sustained damage as well. and his passive adding to his damage overall. Id say that kit is just as overloaded as anything else on this list at least.
arenaes and still to this day,he fucks up even new champs with his kit
Dante Belmont
he is only about half the shaco he used to be though if you look at all his nerfs.
arenaes I think a lot of assassins were left out on this list because he was looking for champions who excelled in defense and offense because of their kit. Shaco has a lot of mobility and can use his abilities to escape tight spots, but he's still a squishy champion and none of his abilities really boosted his defense. (although he does have good escape). I mean why wouldn't Zed be in the list as well?
Kevin Cravens
zed actually lacks hard cc, shaco has that, shaco has almost everything overall in zeds kit to some extent in addition to additional features. shaco may do less burst but he brings more sustained damage and far more utility than zed.
I wish Elise was on the meta, very fun champion.
Also, i think Vi has an overloaded kit that makes her strong in every meta, should be a no brainer on this list.
Great video btw, keep up with the great content !
Taric should be on this list, too .. He has heal based on max hp, armor steroids, armor shred, 2 aoe damage tools, armor scaling and aura, targeted stun with huge dmg, ap and ad steroids for team and cooldown reduction on basics + included sheen
I expected to see Riven somewhere in the middle with her Insane mobility, Knockup, Stun, AD scaling shield and huge steroid ult. But I also agree with the list
how about *Leblanc*? Insane *damage*(Q), *mobility*(W), and *utility* (E). And her ult lets her repeat a spell depending on what she needs. She can be super bursty, VERY MOBILE, and then she can even hit you with the 2 chains.
For the most part i agree with this list, but i think Thresh deserves a spot due to his insane amount of utility. I also think Orianna deserves a mention. She has tons of damage, an aoe displace, a shield that scales off ap and her w can be used to speed your team up or slow the enemies down.
Gabe S She is kinda overloaded but also lack PROPER sustain and has the flaw of being reliant on the ball. But yes she can be OP with the right player/team.
Gabe S orianna lacks hard mobility and sustain to be here.
champions with only damage/cc/shield are not nearly as overloaded as champs like ekko:
damage/2 aoe slows/aoe stunn/shield/movespeed/double-dash/vision/untargettable/utility on ult(insta back 2 lane or something)/heal on ulti
I think thresh should be nr 1 . Best hook in game, one of the strongest disengages with his lantern/ult/e his q and e stop literally every jump. Great engage , great disengage + range. Thats the reason why he is the nr 1 support since his release, every game you see a thresh, cause his kit is just so guud
I see nobody wants to mention release ezreal. One ability damaged all enemies, healed all teamates, reduced atk speed of all enemies, and increased atk speed of all allies it hit. ONE ABILITY!
How about elise in the change of patch 5.12?
What about kassadin? A slow, a channel interruption plus shield, a auto attack reset that restores mana, a 15% magic reduction passive, and a ult that takes away the use of using flash, that also stacks and puts on more bonus damage. Not to metion he's been nerfed to hell
The problem with overloaded champs is that they are very hard to play well most of the time. I've seen some good Jayce's but a great Jayce is pretty rare. Players will need good game knowledge to play them decently as their versatility requires different playstyles. You build Jayce depending on the matchup, if they have someone like Yasuo you don't build to go full QE poke dmg but hammer burst dmg.
I'm surprised Riven isn't on this list. She has a knock-up, a stun, an incredible damage steroid, % missing health damage, a shield that scales off AD, all coupled with incredible mobility, by having 4 dashes.
Nami has an overloaded kit if I've seen any. Stun that can hit more then 1 target, aoe knockup, snare, sustain, movement speed on friendly cast.
I think its to early to make this kind of list, most champions on this list arent even overloaded imo, but the new ones coming are
Ayyy lmao Overloaded don't mean overpowered :P
i know
Ayyy lmao If you compare season 1 with todays champion, there are a lot more flexible than they were before. I even thought that riot would never introduce champions that can damage the team or other teammembers (like bard). And he said most overloaded. That means compared to all other champion. A champ could be already "overloaded", because he has 2 more skills than the rest.
Robert Ostrowski In a way it does. Overloaded Kit basically means Overpowered Kit. Doesn't make the champoin overpowered if the numbers (Coolddown/Damage/Range/Costs) are right. Many of the champions on the list went through a lot of nerfs over the years showing just how hard to balance these Champions are.
PositiveBlackSoul You're also acting like Riot actually has a good balancing team. LOL
Irelia more overloaded than Thresh tho? Also i wouldnt put Elise over Ekko due to the Impact Ekko's kit can have as opposed to Elise's
I'm surprised lulu isn't on this list. Slow, silence, polymorph, aoe knockup that increases the targets health, a shield, and a passive that shoots more projectiles for her AA
Gragas used to have a pretty overloaded kit before his rework, mana and health sustain, waveclear, ranged poke, tankiness, and engage/disengage from range.
I read garen instead of gragas and I was like wtf ahahah
Pretty good list, but no Lulu? She's got a slow, shield, vision grant, knockup/AoE slow, speed boost, polymorph, all of which can be self-cast, ally cast, or cast on enemies.
Kalista - unending mobility on passive, jump from Q, % health dmg, objective control, ultimate to bail out support from anything, aoe knockup
when Reksai was released you knew you were gonna have to hug that top lane tower
Lulu could deserve a spot, since she
1. has basically 6 abilities, depending on who you cast it on
2. can play every single role in the game (yes, even as jungler and adc lulu does a pretty good job)
3. she has an insane amount of utility: a targeted silence and blind that lasts for years, a shield, a heal + max health buff, a bonus ap on hit damage buff for allies, a speed buff, a slow
4. Hybrid on hit damage
All in all, she's basically kog maw + teemo + soraka in one
Elise is a good Nr 1 though
+Joshua El-Samalouti (MaebaraAnime)
I wouldn't consider Lulu overloaded, because what would make her "overloaded" you have to choose between. I think you have to choose between whimsy and polymorph, right? Having options is different than having everything in one ability. Like ekko's shield, which has an aoe stun, a shield, and execute damage all in one.
Jayson Frankrone Hmm...you might be right, nevertheless there's really not many champions in the game that can play as every role.
Though jungling is a bit difficult, since you gotta kite the camps, you don't know how many times I triggered that goddamn health reset bar xD
hahaha definitely, however you really try hard enough you can basically take any champion anywhere. You just have to play to their strengths. Zyra is actually a popular off-meta jungler, easily player mid/supp, toplane could still be played a mage, and her snare+knockup make her a viable self-peeling adc.
haha, yes, teemo as well, people play him as a poke support sometimes, he's definitely viable in top and mid lane, his hybrid damage makes him a good adc and I heard from people playing him in jungle as well.
everyone can have an overloaded kit if you mention what they can do uniquely
If we are all going to be like the other comments:
WHAT ABOUT TF?!
-Q goes 3 ways
-Mana refund
-AOE slow
-Stun
-Attack Speed buff
-Global vision
-5500 range TP
Come on guys, don't mention everything on every champ! Multiple options/functionalities doesn't mean something is overloaded.
How about Twisted Fate, Stun, slow, mana sustain, waweclear, vision on all enemies, huge range teleport, on hit effect, bonus attack speed and bonus gold on lasthits, i think that' s pretty overloaded too
Lulu?
Slow, polymorph, speed/ap boost, shield, Knock-up, health boost, dmg when building ap?
Zac?? 4 AOE spells, 2 are slows (his ult slows for 1 second after the knockup), 2 are knockups, percent health damage on his W, the longest jump in the game, incredible sustain and a revive. Surely he should be in there somewhere
Ben Ramshaw actually...i think we are getting pretty subjetive here (but i kinda see your point)
I do agree with you jeremy i think Elise is one of the most complicated champions and if not the harder one to play
Was about to add riven and thresh and some others and remembered this is a video about overloaded kits, not necessarily difficulty.
Notice how many of them are recent champions... Riot is so focused on being new and unique that they're giving every champion crazy mechanics that make for a flat out confusing character.
Kinda surprised by this list.
Agree with Yasuo, Azir, Gnar, Jayce, Ekko.
Also understand what you meant with Irelia and RekSai.
What I slightly don't agree with is Nidalee and Lee Sin.. cause they are just harder to play but not overloaded. Their spells feel natural and join in chains so it's like other champions just they have to use correctly twice as many abilities.
The one champion that I ceirtanly wouldn't put here is Elise. She feels completely fine. Her abilities complement each other and feel natural for both her and her opponents. Probably because she doesn't have any real passive ability or transform effect like Jayce for example.
I think champions like the new Gragas, Kalista, new Ashe, Rengar, new Ryze and Tahm Kench would make more sense here since they have so much artificial limitations and abilities added to them that they feel kinda broken.
Rito had these cool ideas with them but instead of balancing the ideas they just use the overpowered versions and then nerf the champion in some other way (like gragas Q on minions, Kalista basic attacks, Ashe passive + Q, Ryze patches).
No old kass? Infinite teleports, a slow, point and click silence, auto attack buffs, and mana regen? Bro. How is he NOT on here.
Thresh would've been on this list if he still had his old ultimate, when his entire box could be popped and cause the damage and the 99% slow. Thresh's q has a fairly big hitbox and is fairly easy to land, and his cc is rediculous
Elise Qs are current and missing. No max health involved (Apart from how missing+current=max)
Surprised that Udyr is not on the list. With his 4 different forms he sure feels overloaded
In what kind of sense are Yasuo's abilities complicated or hard to use? The games I played with him felt like spectator mode...
Gangplank. Especially rework gangplank. So many ways to instakill everyone with 1 q and an ult, its crazy.
Elise can be quite good with AD..
Especially in the form of a Trinity Force and the Hydra which gives her spider-form a massive AOE lifesteal.
G6 Liara I think that AD Elise can be crazy strong with Warrior --> Triforce --> Blade --> Frozen Mallet --> Tank. Hydra is fun on Elise but just not worth it considering how useless it is when you go ranged.
You still get the damage and the lifesteal from that item though.. so completely useless.. nah, it's viable, considering the benefits you get when you go melee
G6 Liara Yeah, but I just think it's a waste if you only benefit from the passive and active half of the time.
Thresh? hook/dash, stun, aoe cc, a passive that gives him 200% ad as bonus magic damage, a passive that gives him a stupid amount of ap and armor mid-late game, 99% slow, cage, shields for himself and others and an ability that allows other players in close range to teleport to you. :| sounds like a lot
Riven? Passive: After every ability she uses her autoattacks do more damage. Q: 3 dashes, final one knocks up. W: AOE Stun that deals damage. E: Another dash that gives her a shield that scales of AD. R: TONS OF DAMAGE+very big "skill shot" that has execute damage. wtf rito pls
whats about nautilus, alistar, janna, nami they are all overloaded in terms of kits, thats why they are support champs
I can understand Rek'Sai but some of the options he listed to coming with an overloaded kit is kinda in and out. The "vision" isn't really vision its a ping in a direction which can be easily used as a baiting tool to bait the landshark making it a very in out kinda thing. Its honestly a balance to the whole 'Shes underground' thing which kinda fits her design. The true damage on her e, I can agree with as well as the global teleport. No denying reksai is overloaded, but heimer is more overloaded than she is. Line Skillshot with Automated Turrets (note the beam is an auto aimed skillshot so to call it a skillshot is.... eh), large scale damaging w that can be used to blow up one person or spread in a skillful way to help clear waves like a boss, a (hard) skillshot that arcs and slows those it clips, stuns those it lands directly on.. Then his ultimate just overloads it more with an Even more powerful turret, instead of 1 wave of rockets you got the entire missle system in the world (jokes), and a bouncing, Aoe Slow and Stun grenade of DOOM (in teamfights.)
what about shyvanna with the new burnout buff?, the abbility itself has : movement speed, dps, basic attack steroids and duration increase per basic attack and if i recall correctly it inflictd increased damage to minions and neutral monters so bs, she didnt need that buff