Oh wow! I wasn't getting why Black was playing so many kinds of moves that I wouldn't have played until I saw where it led to at the end of this march. Very skilled!
I dont get it. I never played othello, but understands the the gameplay. Isnt it a guaranteed defense by securing the side along with the corners? White had the opportunity to block black from getting to the sides and black was able to secure the side earlier but did it at the very very end.
It's a fair comment, but what you are describing is the later process to try to win a game which is to grab an edge to force your opponent to the xsq. Before trying to do that, there are lots of techniques to force your opponent. And the more you and your opponent knows these techniques the harder it is for each other to execute what u just described on how to win. That is why this game is always deceptively easy but actually involves very deep concepts of controlling your opponents mobility or legal moves :)
@@NoNameAtAll2 xsq is the X square - the one that's diagonally adjacent to the corner. If you force your opponent to play there it gives you an easier chance to get the corner
I've seen Othello played but never at this level. Very fascinating. Is that the max size board? Kind of like how Go has multiple board sizes. Just curious. Imagine if the board got bigger it would get more and more tiresome lol
I am totally blind and live in the United States. I am very interested in purchasing a "Kiwame Othello board". Could somebody please help me figure out where I can purchase one from? Thank you!
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hey im pretty new to the game and was just wondering... why play on a physical board instad of a touchscreen? it seems to me like they are losing a considerable amount of time turning the "pieces" (if that's how they are called)
Hi, it's "traditional" to playing on a board and flipping the discs since the start of the game. While technology has also been considered, its been deemed that the flipping is part of the "skill" involved of the process. Similar to international chess that still involves players physically moving pieces instead of just touch screen I guess.
Also, while I am not sure of the rules, but I speculate that if you happen to miss a piece to flip and press your clock, you lose that opportunity to claim that space.
@@kylen6430 I was wondering what happens if you miss flipping a piece. Does the opponent point it out and hit the clock? It's not necessarily a disadvantage to "lost that opportunity to claim that space" so there could be an incentive to cheat if you "forget" to flip a piece you don't want to flip.
@@DavidKlausa as I said, I am not familiar with rules. But in chess, an illegal move results in opponent gaining time or forfeiture…maybe this is similar
@@kylen6430 There is indeed an illegal move played by White (8:26) where White places a piece and realizes that there is no piece he can flip, which is illegal according to the rule. According to the video, White just reverts the illegal move and plays elsewhere. So I guess the rule in Othello is not as strict as it is in chess.
3:00 white player pick C8 step is a poor step despite maybe the best move. Because black player style is full of creativity. If I were him I may pick E8 request black put G8.....(either C8,D8 also accepted) then pick D1 to rob B4 back(Request black pick B4 or not)... though may not be the best move, put the question back to black player 3:48 C3 is the victory step for black player forcing white player cannot put D1... that's why I strongly recommend D1 for white player that request B4 then put the question back to black player...
It isn't you. White messed up. At the high level as the game seems, there are two main goals. Once you figure that out, next is how to achieve those goals. It's easy for me to say this, but I have never played with a clock. That's another level of pressure.
The short version is: it's a matter of controll, the more pieces you have in the beginning, the less options you have. If you look at the right side of the game, pretty much all throughout the game that side is kept white. Meaning that the black player can choose to open up that side whenever he see fit, and in pretty much whatever way he see fit. Now if white would have played your suggested move, black would be in controll of that side as well. one of the first "rules" you learn is to early in the game try to be as small as possible. It's not a very sensible rule, as it's more important where you have your pieces than how large you are, but it's a great way to start exploring.
yah "supposedly" equal haha. I played with it way back in the late 70s as a kid then, discovered that i can't lose if i don't start the game first, unless playing with inexperienced players. That was my hustle, sure way of making some pocket money.@@OthelloAcademy
marisa kirisame vs otohime whatshernameth edit : it was Otohime Kanpukugu from marine benefit th-cam.com/video/sKHb30rlUbU/w-d-xo.html footage from jaimers
I think white lose the game because of E3 ... It hardly discover that E3 is the worst move despite playing with no time limit... So it cannot say white player have big mistake . Black player get this chance put C3 victory step to finish this macth (*Othello match is not recommend to resign)
If you mean game coordinates like H1 G5 etc, you can download reversatile, you should see it. But generally columns go from A to H from left to right and rows go from 1 to 8 from top to bottom. If you mean terms like box, or x squares or c squares etc, you can refer to my beginner class episodes, it's there :)
For viewer's benefit, I would agree, but the tournament rules states each players selects and play with their preferred master hand :) so it's natural for most players to be right handed since most of the population are also right handed. Maybe the camera view should be overhead next time perhaps?
@@OthelloAcademy i was thinking the same thing of the over head view, but no then the hand would be blocking the chips moves, double camera action on both side of the board, or someone switching cameras for each player so no moves are blocked, & moving the chips slower would be beneficial for the viewers to catch each move, this is the only board game I've ever played because i hate board games, i absolutely love this game, & no, checkers just don't even compare to this game, even tho. It's somewhat similar, but, yeah, I'd love to be in a tournament, I've played this game for year's, with everyone, & never have I've been beat, starting out yes i have, until i learned the game, then it was smooth as taking candy away from a baby, 😂😂😂😂😂, now nobody wants to play me, their like what's the point, but yeah, when i sit down to play, i put my game face on, I'm there to destroy my opponent, & I'm out for blood,
@@OthelloAcademy oh, i do play that app, & trust me there are some bad ass players on there, & i have been beaten there, I'm not even gonna lie, but i hold my own, it's almost every other challenge i come out fine, no idea what my average is, I've never kept track, i just jump on another challenge without checking, but my people i play, almost never ever play the game, so i guess i just got a better advantage on them
its actually the moves before the corner sac that i appreciated, and the moves after. For instance, the one move at 3:48 is probably my favorite of the game, really taking into consideration what white wants to do, and poisoning their move. White's move after is extremely loud, but it shows just how much the initiative was swinging into black's favor at that point. also the sequence that starts at 5:54, forcing white to take the edge to make their own move quieter, which really seemed to swing the advantage to black. The corner sac not long after was just intuitive, clearing out all of white's mobility and hence moves, securing black as the driver, but what i really liked was the apprehension at 7:34. Sure black in that position could take the corner right away, and probably force another corner, but either way they would still have to fight on the right hand side of the board to secure the victory so they decided to delay capturing the corner and start that fight right off the bat. It really showed a level of professionalism and patience. honestly white was just outclassed here, possibly gave some advantage early on after the opening or was forced into a difficult position and was just unable to find the right defensive moves. The Stephenson is my favorite opening as black and this seemed like a very main line ish sequence, which may have been a poor decision. It's often unwise to go deep into theory against someone in an opening they're familiar with.
The easiest way to obtain one through rakuten perhaps or some of the online sales shops. I found one through a quick search here: item.rakuten.co.jp/jseller/js-7tjrl8xh/ While there might be cheaper ways to get it, but it would not differ a lot from USD 50 just for the board alone and not factoring in shipping even if you bought it in Japan retail stores. Fun fact, typically when you debut at a World Championship, they give you one for free as memento too. However, due to covid, the World Othello Championship hasn't been held since 2019.
Oh wow! I wasn't getting why Black was playing so many kinds of moves that I wouldn't have played until I saw where it led to at the end of this march. Very skilled!
Thank you and indeed that's the beauty of this game :)
من فضلك ما هو أسم اللعبه ؟ وكيف أتعلمها ! وشكرا لك 🙋⚘
Seeing those corners free for so long XD
@@السلميحسون called othello or reverse/reversi
I was thinking black was doomed. What a comeback. Well played.
Thanks for support :) yea Othello can be quite counter intuitive that way :)
@@OthelloAcademyat the start of my tournament match, my opponent was defeating me so hard but as i came back in the last part of the game...
Damn its a hole different game when played by people who actually know what there doing
Haha true that
The way black played in this match was brilliant
Thank you for your support :)
@@OthelloAcademy this opening you need to avoid playing for White.
@@koosbusters8006 The Stephenson is fine for white.
fuck yeah youre right lad, he whipped out so many insane moves!
I love this game.😀😀😀😀😇😇😇😇.
I dont get it. I never played othello, but understands the the gameplay. Isnt it a guaranteed defense by securing the side along with the corners?
White had the opportunity to block black from getting to the sides and black was able to secure the side earlier but did it at the very very end.
It's a fair comment, but what you are describing is the later process to try to win a game which is to grab an edge to force your opponent to the xsq. Before trying to do that, there are lots of techniques to force your opponent. And the more you and your opponent knows these techniques the harder it is for each other to execute what u just described on how to win. That is why this game is always deceptively easy but actually involves very deep concepts of controlling your opponents mobility or legal moves :)
@@OthelloAcademy what's xsq?
@@NoNameAtAll2 xsq is the X square - the one that's diagonally adjacent to the corner. If you force your opponent to play there it gives you an easier chance to get the corner
Interesting seeing this played at a professional level
Yes pretty cool, as most don't think there is a deep strategy to this game on first look...deceptively simple
I've seen Othello played but never at this level. Very fascinating. Is that the max size board? Kind of like how Go has multiple board sizes. Just curious. Imagine if the board got bigger it would get more and more tiresome lol
8 by 8 is the standard mainstream size but in Japan they have been trying 10 by 10
Thanks for support :)
Scorpion opening, if I'm not wrong.
This is Comp'Oth not Scorpion
White player is looking more noob than me😅😅
Me who doesn’t know a f about this game but still watched the whole video
Hehe, inexplicable attraction to the game or?
@@OthelloAcademy well i watch this to learn how to play I like learning while someone plays
Wooow. 🙀
7:13
Isn't there also a grand version of reversi which is 10square big?
Yes there is but it's not widely played at the moment
I am totally blind and live in the United States. I am very interested in purchasing a "Kiwame Othello board". Could somebody please help me figure out where I can purchase one from? Thank you!
Hi, here's a website that you may purchase it from. Hope this helps!
want.jp/product/A5D1EFA010EE8F
Tem que ter muita estrategia😊❤❤
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Đen đánh rất liều, luôn ném vào thế bí xong anh ấy đã cược đúng. Dù trắng chơi rất thận trọng nhưng bị dòn ép đến mức đánh vào những góc chết khiến ván vờ bị lật ngược
wooow!!!
First I was like why black don't put on top left corner then I shut my mouth
hey im pretty new to the game and was just wondering... why play on a physical board instad of a touchscreen? it seems to me like they are losing a considerable amount of time turning the "pieces" (if that's how they are called)
Hi, it's "traditional" to playing on a board and flipping the discs since the start of the game. While technology has also been considered, its been deemed that the flipping is part of the "skill" involved of the process. Similar to international chess that still involves players physically moving pieces instead of just touch screen I guess.
Also, while I am not sure of the rules, but I speculate that if you happen to miss a piece to flip and press your clock, you lose that opportunity to claim that space.
@@kylen6430 I was wondering what happens if you miss flipping a piece. Does the opponent point it out and hit the clock? It's not necessarily a disadvantage to "lost that opportunity to claim that space" so there could be an incentive to cheat if you "forget" to flip a piece you don't want to flip.
@@DavidKlausa as I said, I am not familiar with rules. But in chess, an illegal move results in opponent gaining time or forfeiture…maybe this is similar
@@kylen6430 There is indeed an illegal move played by White (8:26) where White places a piece and realizes that there is no piece he can flip, which is illegal according to the rule. According to the video, White just reverts the illegal move and plays elsewhere. So I guess the rule in Othello is not as strict as it is in chess.
Exhilarating experience to watch this video😦😮
Thank you :) even more exciting if you are playing it :)
@@OthelloAcademy Mate I think they were being sarcastic...
They had a good match!
Yes indeed :) Blitz can be fun at times too
3:00 white player pick C8 step is a poor step despite maybe the best move. Because black player style is full of creativity.
If I were him I may pick E8 request black put G8.....(either C8,D8 also accepted) then pick D1 to rob B4 back(Request black pick B4 or not)... though may not be the best move, put the question back to black player
3:48 C3 is the victory step for black player forcing white player cannot put D1... that's why I strongly recommend D1 for white player that request B4 then put the question back to black player...
Saw one glaring error from black. But the outcome speaks for itself.
Yes always happy to convert a win
Both part did so good wow
Anyone knows where I can buy the Othello board size and pieces used for this competition?
You can try rakuten or buyee to link to other sites to buy and ship. Another option is want.jp
is it just me or did some turns just miss some massive chances?
It isn't you. White messed up. At the high level as the game seems, there are two main goals. Once you figure that out, next is how to achieve those goals. It's easy for me to say this, but I have never played with a clock. That's another level of pressure.
5 minutes isn't a lot of time to think... there are gonna be mistakes.
Beyaz çok şey kaçırdı daha iyi oynayabilirdi
Sponsor must be Oreo
It just has to be ! Lol
Most probably lol
It looks like an oreo cookie
Indeed hehe
Đen lật kèo hay 👍👍
cant believe black one in the end
Indeed, as much as a proper game shouldn't swerve between a win and a loss that much, but that's also the fun thing about Othello I guess :)
5:28 why didn't the white go for the up left square to flip 7 pieces .Indeed he went another way
The short version is: it's a matter of controll, the more pieces you have in the beginning, the less options you have.
If you look at the right side of the game, pretty much all throughout the game that side is kept white. Meaning that the black player can choose to open up that side whenever he see fit, and in pretty much whatever way he see fit.
Now if white would have played your suggested move, black would be in controll of that side as well.
one of the first "rules" you learn is to early in the game try to be as small as possible. It's not a very sensible rule, as it's more important where you have your pieces than how large you are, but it's a great way to start exploring.
As peças brancas perderam tantas oportunidades que chega deu raiva ☠️
players having equal skills - the one who starts first will lose, it is unique to Othello a biased game right from the start.
It's supposedly equal for both first to start and second to start, but parity tends to favour white who starts second
yah "supposedly" equal haha. I played with it way back in the late 70s as a kid then, discovered that i can't lose if i don't start the game first, unless playing with inexperienced players. That was my hustle, sure way of making some pocket money.@@OthelloAcademy
marisa kirisame vs otohime whatshernameth
edit : it was Otohime Kanpukugu from marine benefit th-cam.com/video/sKHb30rlUbU/w-d-xo.html footage from jaimers
what?
White had some big mistakes and black did his best, he was really excellent in this game
Indeed :)
I think white lose the game because of E3 ... It hardly discover that E3 is the worst move despite playing with no time limit... So it cannot say white player have big mistake . Black player get this chance put C3 victory step to finish this macth
(*Othello match is not recommend to resign)
@@wkhric word "hardly" means slightly different than what you expect
@@wkhric wtf did you just say
@@NoNameAtAll2 lmao
I expected black will win
Pummmmm!!!
This match is good 👍
Thank you!
Where Can we get the game notations ...so that we can write down and learn the game
If you mean game coordinates like H1 G5 etc, you can download reversatile, you should see it. But generally columns go from A to H from left to right and rows go from 1 to 8 from top to bottom.
If you mean terms like box, or x squares or c squares etc, you can refer to my beginner class episodes, it's there :)
the one who plays black is really good.
thank you very much for the praise :)
im waching this very intently as if ik whas going on
one day i will
intrestifn to wach tho
Hope the other videos can help :)
The guy on the left should of played with his left hand, & you should of moved your pieces slower so we could catch every move
For viewer's benefit, I would agree, but the tournament rules states each players selects and play with their preferred master hand :) so it's natural for most players to be right handed since most of the population are also right handed. Maybe the camera view should be overhead next time perhaps?
@@OthelloAcademy i was thinking the same thing of the over head view, but no then the hand would be blocking the chips moves, double camera action on both side of the board, or someone switching cameras for each player so no moves are blocked, & moving the chips slower would be beneficial for the viewers to catch each move, this is the only board game I've ever played because i hate board games, i absolutely love this game, & no, checkers just don't even compare to this game, even tho. It's somewhat similar, but, yeah, I'd love to be in a tournament, I've played this game for year's, with everyone, & never have I've been beat, starting out yes i have, until i learned the game, then it was smooth as taking candy away from a baby, 😂😂😂😂😂, now nobody wants to play me, their like what's the point, but yeah, when i sit down to play, i put my game face on, I'm there to destroy my opponent, & I'm out for blood,
@@carlschmiedeke151 haha, you should try playing on the app "Othello Quest"...curious what's your level there like :)
@@OthelloAcademy oh, i do play that app, & trust me there are some bad ass players on there, & i have been beaten there, I'm not even gonna lie, but i hold my own, it's almost every other challenge i come out fine, no idea what my average is, I've never kept track, i just jump on another challenge without checking, but my people i play, almost never ever play the game, so i guess i just got a better advantage on them
Amazing corner sac
Thank you!
its actually the moves before the corner sac that i appreciated, and the moves after. For instance, the one move at 3:48 is probably my favorite of the game, really taking into consideration what white wants to do, and poisoning their move. White's move after is extremely loud, but it shows just how much the initiative was swinging into black's favor at that point.
also the sequence that starts at 5:54, forcing white to take the edge to make their own move quieter, which really seemed to swing the advantage to black. The corner sac not long after was just intuitive, clearing out all of white's mobility and hence moves, securing black as the driver, but what i really liked was the apprehension at 7:34. Sure black in that position could take the corner right away, and probably force another corner, but either way they would still have to fight on the right hand side of the board to secure the victory so they decided to delay capturing the corner and start that fight right off the bat. It really showed a level of professionalism and patience.
honestly white was just outclassed here, possibly gave some advantage early on after the opening or was forced into a difficult position and was just unable to find the right defensive moves. The Stephenson is my favorite opening as black and this seemed like a very main line ish sequence, which may have been a poor decision. It's often unwise to go deep into theory against someone in an opening they're familiar with.
Alguém sabe a onde encontro o tabuleiro pra compra?
Online
Where can I get a board like the ones that use in tournaments?
The easiest way to obtain one through rakuten perhaps or some of the online sales shops. I found one through a quick search here: item.rakuten.co.jp/jseller/js-7tjrl8xh/
While there might be cheaper ways to get it, but it would not differ a lot from USD 50 just for the board alone and not factoring in shipping even if you bought it in Japan retail stores.
Fun fact, typically when you debut at a World Championship, they give you one for free as memento too. However, due to covid, the World Othello Championship hasn't been held since 2019.
@@OthelloAcademy bane! I dont know if I could play within the time limit, I like to think about my moves.
othello rocks!
Indeed :)
Dont they have acces to chess clocks they are alot better
Where ?
Must bro
😂😂😂😂😂😂