Thanks for posting Nice to see the CNW green and yellow 👍 36 years in locomotive department CNW/ UP. Retired in 2010. Was more interesting watching trains back then compared to now……. Great career and great people miss it much at times😎🇺🇸
Union Pacific ran a lot of those good looking GE 8-40C hood units. At 4000hp, only took three of them to handle that freight with all the heavy steel coils and such. Seems they had a tendancy to smoke more than what was considered normal - a problem later corrected, I read.
That freight train from CNW at 38:58 from Chicago must been going at least 60 mph or more through Gothenburg - I would like to call that a Z manifest. Then here comes another Z manifest from CNW at 39:55 going at least 60 mph or more at Gothenburg headed to Chicago. And now at 41:58 here comes a SUPER Z from CNW coming from Chicago going through Gothenburg.
Now instead of SD40-2 and C40-8 units, Union Pacific has the latest in GEs, SD70Aces and SD70Ms. And the trains and freight cars on UP have gotten much bigger and more state of the art than in the 1980s when twin truck trailers on 89-foot flatcars were the norm and stack trains with five unit well cars and 40-foot containers were a novelty. As the trucking industry has flourished with the times and made advances in technology, Union Pacific has kept pace with the competition and has indeed gotten better than trucking as a whole even with its shortcomings.
I love the top vented dynamics on the dash 8s. they phased those out because of water intrusion etc. All 5 Dash 8s have them at 01:38. Nice elephant ears GE unit at 27:42. What horn at 43:36?
I remember the top vented dynamic brake grids on early Dash-8s. I had never seen a GE locomotive with radiator air deflectors as seen in the video.(I didn't even notice them in the video!). I can't find any info or pictures on the web. As for the horn, on more than one occasion I found that a horn that had a sound like that had a dead bird or some other debris in it. I even found one with a chunk of apple in it. Thanks for the comment.
I saw that there was crossings on the BN side on E Capital Ave., E 18th St., E 10th ST., E 7th St., E 5th St, E 4th St, E 3rd St, and the underpass at E 2nd St.?
I really love how those flat cars hold those trailers, so close and tight together. That could curb a lot of the theft these days. They won’t be able to open the trailer doors. We need those flat cars back again. Especially here in California. And an idling train is like a sitting duck for these robbers and homeless to break into them.
They should know how to close the hatches of covered hoppers that carry soda ash - did you notice the soda ash escaping from the hopper at 3:45 after the engine coupled into it at Union Pacific's yard?
(Typo: actually at 3:35) Was that an open hatch, though? Or was it just that they'd dumped a load of material on top of the car while trying to load it? It seems to be falling from all over roof at that end of the car, immediately after the impact, so not coming out of the hatch.
never new how big the dash 8s were for GE and opening the door for what followed from the dash 9 on up. was really like the SD40s were to EMD. but i still love the old locos befor all the high tech BS. dont know why but i just love the old SD9s
@@elizabethpate2740 A car carrying livestock: you can see the animals moving around inside, through the vents. From the reporting mark HOGX, I assume they're pigs! I also thought the railroads had stopped carrying livestock long before this video was shot.
The Farmer John Special known on the UP as the CLS, Clougherty Livestock Special ran until 1994. Sioux Falls, South Dakota was a big loading point.I saw the HOGX cars in storage there in the late 90's.
Union Pacific and Burlington Northern are both cool. I love those railroads. there was a SPSF Santa Fe locomotive on a BN coal train. It was the 4th engine of the coal. The rest of them are Burlington Northern. The coal train was consistent of 5 engines on the headend with SD40-2 7178 leading which at the time was 10 years old. The Santa Fe locomotive on the coal was C30-7 8055. The locomotive was 11 years old, so he was older that the leading engine.
Yet another freight train from CNW in Nebraska at 45:06 going through Grand Island? I thought only freights from Union Pacific ran through Grand Island. Oh well, must be the unique partnership between UP and CNW that never gets old.
The 70 mph top speed for freight trains has been the standard as far back as I can remember. There are all kinds of restrictions that slow them down. Happy Holidays!
That coal train on BN going towards Denver at 27:50 must be going at a very good clip possibly at least 60 mph or more. I would call it a Z coalie. And at 30:50 here comes another Z coalie on BN going towards Denver.
When I stopped in Grand Island I didn't know that the crossing would eventually be replaced with a flyover. I'm glad I changed my plans and stayed later. But I had to cancel my stop in Gibbon. The Sidney location was accessible and very busy. Thanks for all your comments.
The train at 27:50 is doing about 45mph. I timed the third and fourth locomotives past a fixed point, and that took 63 video frames which, at 30fps is 2.1 seconds. I think those locomotives are SD40s, which are a shade under 70ft long. 140ft of locomotive in 2.1 seconds is 67 feet per second, which is about 45mph.
Union Pacific indeed did operate on the CNW's tracks, right up until UP took control of the CNW in 1995. It was not a tit for tat kind of thing to my point of view, but a unique partnership for both UP and CNW between Chicago and the West Coast.
Still, though - it’s a train. There’s something vaguely “romantic” - not sure if that’s the right word - about seeing a locomotive, or a pair or more - straining under a long load of cars, either freight cars, or passenger-carrying cars - and a bit of *soot* tells you there’s work being done. I was glad I got to see the P42s on the Coast Starlight last year leave a thin thread of dark smoke as they climbed hills coming back from LA. It was like traveling back in time, sort of - and for weeks after I got back, I felt the movement in my “at home bed” just like I did in the Roomette. Riding Amtrak turned me into something of a train-nut, and I like to see trains make *soot.* (even though it wastes a bit of fuel, and will need general cleaning up later.)
Thanks for posting Nice to see the CNW green and yellow 👍
36 years in locomotive department CNW/ UP.
Retired in 2010.
Was more interesting watching trains back then compared to now…….
Great career and great people miss it much at times😎🇺🇸
So many narrow nose Dash 8-40-Cs. So lovely!
Thanks for the comment.
great videos. i been watching alot of your videos for the past 5 days. this is great stuff
Glad you like them! Thank you for your kind comment.
Union Pacific ran a lot of those good looking GE 8-40C hood units. At 4000hp, only took three of them to handle that freight with all the heavy steel coils and such. Seems they had a tendancy to smoke more than what was considered normal - a problem later corrected, I read.
Early Dash 8's had turbo problems. Thanks for the comment.
@@vidwilzvids9587 leaky oil seals?
Great GI shots! I worked just around the corner to the south on the BN line. I was hoping for an Oakway. Those things were loud back then.
Thank you!
You're Welcome!. Thanks for the comment.
Nice catch at 28:00! Great Video's.
I got lucky at these locations. Thanks for the comment.
Great seeing the C-40's again in action
That freight train from CNW at 38:58 from Chicago must been going at least 60 mph or more through Gothenburg - I would like to call that a Z manifest. Then here comes another Z manifest from CNW at 39:55 going at least 60 mph or more at Gothenburg headed to Chicago. And now at 41:58 here comes a SUPER Z from CNW coming from Chicago going through Gothenburg.
Now instead of SD40-2 and C40-8 units, Union Pacific has the latest in GEs, SD70Aces and SD70Ms. And the trains and freight cars on UP have gotten much bigger and more state of the art than in the 1980s when twin truck trailers on 89-foot flatcars were the norm and stack trains with five unit well cars and 40-foot containers were a novelty. As the trucking industry has flourished with the times and made advances in technology, Union Pacific has kept pace with the competition and has indeed gotten better than trucking as a whole even with its shortcomings.
I love the top vented dynamics on the dash 8s. they phased those out because of water intrusion etc. All 5 Dash 8s have them at 01:38. Nice elephant ears GE unit at 27:42. What horn at 43:36?
I remember the top vented dynamic brake grids on early Dash-8s. I had never seen a GE locomotive with radiator air deflectors as seen in the video.(I didn't even notice them in the video!). I can't find any info or pictures on the web. As for the horn, on more than one occasion I found that a horn that had a sound like that had a dead bird or some other debris in it. I even found one with a chunk of apple in it. Thanks for the comment.
Looks like either a Leslie Supertyfon RS3L or a Prime 920. They're nearly indistinguishable, and the UP used both of them.
I saw that there was crossings on the BN side on E Capital Ave., E 18th St., E 10th ST., E 7th St., E 5th St, E 4th St, E 3rd St, and the underpass at E 2nd St.?
Excellent video. Great locations as well.
I appreciate your kind comments.
I really love how those flat cars hold those trailers, so close and tight together. That could curb a lot of the theft these days. They won’t be able to open the trailer doors. We need those flat cars back again. Especially here in California. And an idling train is like a sitting duck for these robbers and homeless to break into them.
They should know how to close the hatches of covered hoppers that carry soda ash - did you notice the soda ash escaping from the hopper at 3:45 after the engine coupled into it at Union Pacific's yard?
(Typo: actually at 3:35) Was that an open hatch, though? Or was it just that they'd dumped a load of material on top of the car while trying to load it? It seems to be falling from all over roof at that end of the car, immediately after the impact, so not coming out of the hatch.
3:33 Oops! Looks like he hit that hopper a bit too hard!
I like the view of the bar and then swing to the oncoming train as many try and grab the train miles away and more one waiting to see TRAINS
And goodie! Not one single hint of graffiti on any freight cars!
never new how big the dash 8s were for GE and opening the door for what followed from the dash 9 on up. was really like the SD40s were to EMD. but i still love the old locos befor all the high tech BS. dont know why but i just love the old SD9s
Awesome video! Love the dash 8s
So did the UP. Thanks for the comment.
Some great stuff
Thank you for the comments; I'm glad you enjoy the videos.
This is fantastic!!!!
Thanks for the comment. This is one of my personal favorites.
Livestock cars at 44:45 on Union Pacific? In the late 1980s? I thought railroads largely stopped doing livestock cars in the 1970s.
What is a livestock car?
Maybe they stopped using livestock cars in the early 1990s.
@@elizabethpate2740 A car carrying livestock: you can see the animals moving around inside, through the vents. From the reporting mark HOGX, I assume they're pigs! I also thought the railroads had stopped carrying livestock long before this video was shot.
The Farmer John Special known on the UP as the CLS, Clougherty Livestock Special ran until 1994. Sioux Falls, South Dakota was a big loading point.I saw the HOGX cars in storage there in the late 90's.
Hey - I think that's the Salad Shooter at 13:20 at Rawlins.
Union Pacific and Burlington Northern are both cool. I love those railroads. there was a SPSF Santa Fe locomotive on a BN coal train. It was the 4th engine of the coal. The rest of them are Burlington Northern. The coal train was consistent of 5 engines on the headend with SD40-2 7178 leading which at the time was 10 years old. The Santa Fe locomotive on the coal was C30-7 8055. The locomotive was 11 years old, so he was older that the leading engine.
The train also consistent of tons of coal cars and a caboose on the rear.
At the very beginning of the video what’s with the service car or coach at the end of the stack train?
That was the "Feather River", a UP owned business car ("biz" car) used mostly for executive and customer tours.
Yet another freight train from CNW in Nebraska at 45:06 going through Grand Island? I thought only freights from Union Pacific ran through Grand Island. Oh well, must be the unique partnership between UP and CNW that never gets old.
Why do they store needed wheels and axles outside?
They are the type of alloy that will rust no matter where you stoe them.
is it just me or were trains actually traveling faster on the mainlines back then?
The 70 mph top speed for freight trains has been the standard as far back as I can remember. There are all kinds of restrictions that slow them down. Happy Holidays!
That coal train on BN going towards Denver at 27:50 must be going at a very good clip possibly at least 60 mph or more. I would call it a Z coalie. And at 30:50 here comes another Z coalie on BN going towards Denver.
When I stopped in Grand Island I didn't know that the crossing would eventually be replaced with a flyover. I'm glad I changed my plans and stayed later. But I had to cancel my stop in Gibbon. The Sidney location was accessible and very busy. Thanks for all your comments.
The train at 27:50 is doing about 45mph. I timed the third and fourth locomotives past a fixed point, and that took 63 video frames which, at 30fps is 2.1 seconds. I think those locomotives are SD40s, which are a shade under 70ft long. 140ft of locomotive in 2.1 seconds is 67 feet per second, which is about 45mph.
33:02
What is that thing?
Some kind of dredge.
@@vidwilzvids9587 Strange, the hull looks kind of weird. And it's quite small too.
It looks like a drill barge to me.
Now instead of Pacific Fruit Express or PFE, Union Pacific has state of the art reefer cars that have the reporting marks ARMN.
About 30 minutes in on the UP main it seems that trains aren't moving fast for being put in the country and 3 track main
Back before the UP bought the CNW in 1995 did UP run on the CNW tracks
In this case it's CN&W's trackage rights on UP (acquired in 1984, I believe).
Maybe someone who is more familiar with CNW ops at that time can answer your question.
Union Pacific indeed did operate on the CNW's tracks, right up until UP took control of the CNW in 1995. It was not a tit for tat kind of thing to my point of view, but a unique partnership for both UP and CNW between Chicago and the West Coast.
Can you make the video in reversed?
Reversed?
Just kitting.
Hit that car pretty hard at 3:31
That was definitely greater than joint speed (Max 4 MPH by rule). Good thing it wasn't a shiftable load.
If the switcher it the car to fast, then it will be a collision.
On 51:00 It sounds like a evil creature yelling in the back ground.
At 44:30 you can see the source of that sound.
Those diesels sure do pump out a lot of pollution.
The present new ones are MUCH cleaner.
Still much less than the huge fleet of trucks that would be required to move the same amount of cargo!
Still, though - it’s a train.
There’s something vaguely “romantic” - not sure if that’s the right word - about seeing a locomotive, or a pair or more - straining under a long load of cars, either freight cars, or passenger-carrying cars - and a bit of *soot* tells you there’s work being done.
I was glad I got to see the P42s on the Coast Starlight last year leave a thin thread of dark smoke as they climbed hills coming back from LA. It was like traveling back in time, sort of - and for weeks after I got back, I felt the movement in my “at home bed” just like I did in the Roomette.
Riding Amtrak turned me into something of a train-nut, and I like to see trains make *soot.* (even though it wastes a bit of fuel, and will need general cleaning up later.)
@@dennisyoung4631 I like seeing IC engines put out a little bit of black smoke as they work hard
WP hoppers!
Thanks for the comment.
So many fallen flag cars and
no graffiti!!