*The small Tuono is here!* And some more words about this wideo. Plus I need your feedback please! If you're wondering about the missed rev-matches...that's not the bike's fault. Apart from the snatchy throttle response the electronic throttle works well. But I couldn't ride any more with the bike than those corners you see here so I simply couldn't get used to it. Sorry for that, it's a bit painful to listen to. Regarding your feedback: my old self would not have uploaded this run. The image quality is bad (used the wrong ND filter), the audio isn't ideal, the riding isn't exactly great. Although that last point isn't really my fault. We had a very cold and wintery April here in Austria so most of our roads are still covered in dust and sometimes even gravel. With temperatures around 10 degrees Celsius and Rosso Corsa tires you just can't go fast without taking a lot of risks. And as some of you might know I'm done with taking a lot of risks ;) But the question is: are you still satisfied enough with the overall wideo quality? Or is this an offence to the usual Schaaf-Standard? Personally I want to also upload RAWs like these in the future because this means I can upload more. This Tuono for instance I only had this one chance to ride and film it. And these “quick and dirty” opportunities appear quite often. Should I make use of them? :)
They have definitely managed to make a parallel twin sound a bit like a V4. Your riding is fine, don't worry. I'm sure it's much faster than those who have made such criticisms.
I enjoy every single one of your videos. Even a video like this one allows some insights into new motorcycles and interesting thoughts like the ones you mentioned. So even if some aspects of a video are not up to your (very high) standards, I don't have a feeling of missing something or watching a bad video. Your videos are so good in many aspects and therefore can make up for e.g. a ride in rather bad conditions with ease.
Thanks for the video, Schaaf. I rode a Tuono 660 Factory at the weekend and, with a quick shifter, I preferred it to the Tuono 1100 Factory I rode before. The 1100 was amazing but too much for the road and the 660 was great fun and still quite exciting.
Seriously this and Ducati supersport sounds beautiful and best. All credits to schaaf who manages to capture such sounds. Hats off for your efforts. Love your content 🙌🙌
Great riding, taking the best line for vision rather than speed and only apexing bends when you have vision to do so safely. And yet you're still really fast!
@@Schaaf più che scalate con classici colpi di acceleratore stile anni 70 .. brucia benzina ...di curve affrontate con una/ due marce in meno e di VELOCITÀ solo sul dritto ...chi CAZZO ti da tutte STE moto da provare...con tanta GENTE BRAVA CHE C'È?????? BOH
A V-twin (example: Ducati) fires with the 450°-270°-450°-270° interval. All that must be done with a parallel-twin engine to achieve identical firing interval is phase the two crank-pins 90° apart. They call them a 270° parallel twin. Another example is Yamaha's MT-07. th-cam.com/video/P3mZXA4KCas/w-d-xo.html It's getting to be a very common crank arrangement on a lot of parallel twins these days. Frankly I love it.
Der Moment wenn man nur nach Sound-Aufnahmen der Tuono mit originalem Auspuff sucht und genau ein Video auf seiner eigenen Heimstrecke findet. 😂👍🏻 Sehr gute Aufnahmen!👏
Yeah but dont forget bikes always sound way better in Schaafs videos than in reality, because his mic is in his backpack next to the exhaust. I own a couple motorcycles he made raw videos about and trust me they dont nearly sound as good in reality.
First of all tks for having included some images of the moto from the outside at the end. Super nice addition! We were waiting for those! About the electronics I think that with some time for regulations you could edge down the snatching of the throttle. For me the main issue of this motorcycle is the similarity in price with the rs without lots of stuff that make the rs660 what it is. It should have had either the same electronics (imu, quickshift, wheelie and traction separately etc.) or a lower price. Still, what a damn good looking bike!
@@Schaaf have you had the chance to try it? Btw keep up the great work you do, your videos I’m sure have been a blessing in these times not only for me.
Yeah but dont forget bikes always sound way better in Schaafs videos than in reality, because his mic is in his backpack next to the exhaust. I own a couple motorcycles he made raw videos about and trust me they dont nearly sound as good in reality.
Yeah but dont forget bikes always sound way better in Schaafs videos than in reality, because his mic is in his backpack next to the exhaust. I own a couple motorcycles he made raw videos about and trust me they dont nearly sound as good in reality.
Yeah but dont forget bikes always sound way better in Schaafs videos than in reality, because his mic is in his backpack next to the exhaust. I own a couple motorcycles he made raw videos about and trust me they dont nearly sound as good in reality.
In my opinion the Tuono 660 should be compared to similar engine sized bikes. Of course the performance of 890/900cc can be more impressive. Anyway, you probably refer to price as comparison element. All Aprilias sold in Europe are entirely made in Italy, although some parts can come from Asian manufacturers. KTM 890 and Triumph Street Triple if I'm not wrong are made in Asia, and this can explain the relative superior price of the Italian bike. It's just my opinion, congratulation for the nice video as usual!
@@Schaaf Be honest, you cannot say that quality of Ducati, Aprilia, Mv Agusta, Piaggio or Moto Guzzi motorbikes is in general so bad. In terms of performance, design and style they are probably the best in class combination. The Italian poor reliability is a legend, statistically undemonstrable, it's a commonplace used also for cars. I own and weekly use a 1986 250 Apriila Tuareg Rally and a 1971 Lancia Fulvia coupé. 35 and 50 years old, they are beautiful, performant and perfectly reliable. Instead, I'm lefting on foot by my 1969 Norton Commando at least once a year, and after two years the battery of my BMW ninet was out. In my personal statistics Italians are the best for reliability. Points of view...
Nice ride 🫡, whana get back on an aprilia i just can't decide witch one , hade the aprilia rsv mille 1000 , back in the day arund 115 bhp and that's enough to have fun on, I hope the 660 will feel similar or better fingers crossed 🤞 🫣
I wish you could hear the 660 with a full exhaust. I could say that its in the top 6 off the best sounding motorcykles out there right now. Aprilia V4, Yamaha CP4, Aprilia 660,Yamaha CP2, Yamaha CP3, Ducati V2 1260/1190.
these systems are no bueno in my opinion. We here in Austria are becoming more and more problems with motorcycles being too loud. It is better to stick to more silent options
@@Schaaf Fortunate enough the Police has better things to do in Sweden. And if you have bad luck you get a check control at bilprovningen and have to get the original exhaust on before the check. Easy fix on the tuono V4 and it will cost max 50 euro ; )
Yeah but dont forget bikes always sound way better in Schaafs videos than in reality, because his mic is in his backpack next to the exhaust. I own a couple motorcycles he made raw videos about and trust me they dont nearly sound as good in reality.
Mmmmh hab mir schon gedacht, dass das nicht der große Wurf ist was Aprillia da rausgehauen hat. Wie du schon schön in deiner Schlussfolgerung angedeutet hast sind die KTM und die Triumph da im Moment die Platzhirsche. Schade eigentlich weil der 1100er Thunfisch ein echter Hammer ist. Ich bin übrigens sehr gespannt auf Videos von dir mit der neuen Speed Triplee 1200 RS!!!
Great Video about exhaustsound and curve driving 👍🏽. I think the problem is you can’t compare it very well. It is something between MT-07 and 09 or Duke 690 and 890. Furthermore it will be another feeling or expectation if you drive a Duke 390 or a Tuono V4 before. Grüße nach Austria 🇦🇹!
I've been seriously considering ditching my z900 and getting this. It looks beautiful and sounds amazing. How does the Tuono 660 compare with the 1st gen z900?
Ich finde das Video super, die für deine Verhältnisse schlechtere Qualität stört mich persönlich nicht. Vorallem wenn das mehr Videos von dir bedeutet! Andere Frage: Ist der Ramsattel die neue 1000ps Teststrecke? :)
Moin Hallo lieber Valentin. Man glaubt gar nicht, dass das die "Kleine" ist.....der Sound ist doch ganz "nice".... Dennoch....der V4 ist einfach unerreicht...♥️ Schöne Grüße nach Österreich 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼🐎🐎🐎
I love your unique presentation style and subscribed for it. Did the TC kick-in at a few places (like @1:38 and @1:47)? I feel Aprilia should have made a v-twin version rather than the p-twin (like Ducati does) and had the pricing same as the Tuono. At any rate, it’s a nice looking bike. Do you think it will be a better track day bike than the Duke 890?
Great video as always. I have one question, would you say this bike is great for someone who is experienced but is getting back into motorcycling and wants more torque than top end power? and as always thank you for posting great videos.
If we're talking about low end torque instead of power, I think this bike isn't quite the case. The engine is meant to be sporty, it's pretty oversquared, it likes to be revved, peak power (95bhp) at 10.500rpm, peak torque (67Nm) at 8.500rpm. For reference, MT07 makes the same torque, but 2000rpm earlier! (Although it's waaay less powerful, 20 bhp less). Nevertheless, the Tuono is a proper great bike, top notch chassis, state of the art electronics, rock solid front end, so flickable. I have a much more powerful MT09, I had the chance to ride the Aprilia for a couple of hours... I'M IN LOVE.
@@MrHejsak as a first bike, or "comeback" bike, I would say so. It's lighter, more friendly (but not boring!) and has a better front end. (Mind that I've never ridden the 2021 MT09, so I can't compare, I'm talking about the old gen, which I own). The Yamaha is much more powerful, even too much for a new user, you can feel torque and power at any rev, but it's also less prone to be ridden hard, less "precise". The Aprilia is less powerful, but it can "teach you" how to ride fast as you get experienced.
@@simonegiannini2421 Tanks for your response. On the market of a new bike. It will be my second bike (already have F800GS) so MT09 would be better fit for me
@@MrHejsak In this case I think the Yamaha would suit you better. Try both, if you have the chance, because the MT is dynamite, but not everyone likes its weird sitting position, while the Tuono has less bhp, but has a high "falling in love" factor. Have fun with your new bike, let us know which one you choose!
Another motorcycle journalist made the same comment about the power falling in the midrange too. I wonder if it's the same case with the RS660. Maybe it can be fixed with a tune? Someone will find out eventually lol
The way it accelerates seems to be from a bigger than 660cc engine. Even so, once again, the video is amazing. Only one question. You said that the bike was a dissapoinment in some areas. What did you mean? In the video, everything seems to be perfect
Looks nice. Ich glaub aber ein V2 wäre viel besser gwesn statt dem R2. Vll. Kann man das mit der performance mit luftfilter und auspuff richten 🤷🏻♂️ Super video, wie immer 👍🏻
Hey Schaaf! How did you find the bike in terms of detail and build quality? I saw an acid gold RS660 and for some reason I felt a bit dissapointed: I kind of think the metallic colour of the chassis/swingarm/triple-clamp looks a bit cheap, but maybe in other colours it looks better... I don't know! P.S: the Duke 890r appears to sound a lot better from the video you made recently! I will look forward to hearing the 660 in person :D
@@Schaaf Why not compare all those then to a gsx1000s or cb1000? seems a bit odd to compare completely different powerplant classes based on price alone. realistically the 660 should be compared to are the ninja 650, sv650, mt07, possibly cb650 even though its an i4. Thats certainly a much more fair comparison. The logic behind comparing these based solely on price falls apart pretty easily and actually makes zero sense. Otherwise its gonna boil down to just getting whatever the cheapest liter bike is...
@@anonjohnnyG By "performance" he's referring to more than just straight line speed, cheap liter naked bikes are usually heavy and don't handle well, so they feel worse to ride on these kinds of roads than the 660. Something like a Duke 890 R handles better (at least according to what I've read, I've never ridden one) and is also faster while being the same price.
@@speedpower2740 First off they are not the same price. Second, by that logic, why not compare with 1000cc naked bikes that are same price as the duke? The tuono with imu and quickshift is still 2 grand cheaper than the duke with track and tech pack added. So really just as you are saying price constitutes not comparing the tuono to other bikes i mentioned, is the same logic why comparing the tuono to the duke (or any other bike with 700+ displacement) makes no sense either. Saying yea this bike is not as fast as one with 1.5x the displacement is proof that an uneducated person is doing the comparison. For the record i own a duke and an smcr
@@speedpower2740 You also have to take into account weather or not the suspension is adjusted optimally for the rider. You can take the highest grade suspension and chassis and make it feel like even worse than a cheap bikes stock setup.
I'm looking forward for you to ride the cbr650r and compare it with aprilia rs 660/ tuono 660 in term of the handling and the riding experience, how the engine respond. Thank you Schaaf.
Why do you let of the gas while shifting up. You are not pulling the clutch so I was guessing it has a quickshifter. Are there multiple quickshifters which work differently?
Im looking forward to buy it as my A2 license bike but is it really that disappointing I mean I could get it new one for the price of a used one because I know the store owner. Should I buy it?
Yeah but dont forget bikes always sound way better in Schaafs videos than in reality, because his mic is in his backpack next to the exhaust. I own a couple motorcycles he made raw videos about and trust me they dont nearly sound as good in reality.
Can you recorder one video without superview? I think with a smaller fov the road is more realistic and reflect better you driving skill. Wide open from italy
To get a realistic view of the road you'd have to use a very narrow filming angle. And that wouldn't work too well on the motorcycle. But thanks still for the suggestion
Wie schlägt sich die Tuono 660 gegen eine Ducati Supersport 950? Hat sie ähnlich starke Vibrationen und gleicht die Laufkultur des Motors derer der Supersport 950? Wie ist die Leistung im Verhältnis zur Supersport? Was würdest du bevorzugen bzw. fährt sich deiner Meinung nach besser? Viele Grüße Etienne Scheid
die Super Sport läuft ein wenig rau, hat (meinem Gedächtnis nach) stärkere Vibrationen. Aber gleichzeitig einen wesentlich lebendigeren und aufregenderen Motor. Ich würde die DUcati nehmen.
*The small Tuono is here!*
And some more words about this wideo. Plus I need your feedback please!
If you're wondering about the missed rev-matches...that's not the bike's fault. Apart from the snatchy throttle response the electronic throttle works well. But I couldn't ride any more with the bike than those corners you see here so I simply couldn't get used to it. Sorry for that, it's a bit painful to listen to.
Regarding your feedback: my old self would not have uploaded this run. The image quality is bad (used the wrong ND filter), the audio isn't ideal, the riding isn't exactly great.
Although that last point isn't really my fault. We had a very cold and wintery April here in Austria so most of our roads are still covered in dust and sometimes even gravel. With temperatures around 10 degrees Celsius and Rosso Corsa tires you just can't go fast without taking a lot of risks. And as some of you might know I'm done with taking a lot of risks ;)
But the question is: are you still satisfied enough with the overall wideo quality? Or is this an offence to the usual Schaaf-Standard?
Personally I want to also upload RAWs like these in the future because this means I can upload more. This Tuono for instance I only had this one chance to ride and film it. And these “quick and dirty” opportunities appear quite often. Should I make use of them? :)
It's definitely better to have a close to perfect video than none at all.
The quality of this one is still good and I enjoy it just as much 👍🏻
mention the rattling zipper at the start, i was wondering what in my room is doing this noises :D
They have definitely managed to make a parallel twin sound a bit like a V4. Your riding is fine, don't worry. I'm sure it's much faster than those who have made such criticisms.
I enjoy every single one of your videos. Even a video like this one allows some insights into new motorcycles and interesting thoughts like the ones you mentioned.
So even if some aspects of a video are not up to your (very high) standards, I don't have a feeling of missing something or watching a bad video. Your videos are so good in many aspects and therefore can make up for e.g. a ride in rather bad conditions with ease.
The quality is still better than in 90% of the videos you can find on youtube.
Nobody needs 100% perfection ;)
That sound is amazing!
thanks mate!
oh, visio looking for 2wheel porn? :D
@@SheepFromDaHell Following Schaaf for a long time for now, quality stuff to watch and listen. And inspirational how to record bike sounds 😄
That's a must for one of your videos, mate!
@@VisioRacer haha nice one :) keep up your good work! Watching you for years :D
Thanks for the video, Schaaf. I rode a Tuono 660 Factory at the weekend and, with a quick shifter, I preferred it to the Tuono 1100 Factory I rode before. The 1100 was amazing but too much for the road and the 660 was great fun and still quite exciting.
I love so much those little new aprilia !
The RS 660 looks stunning too !
it does!
Bro this is a 95hp bike
@@uranus9954 A 95hp bike for 180kg, you have way enough to have fun and kick some ass, I can assure you! 😉
@@uranus9954 it's all relative. The tuono V4 has 175hp!
660 is not "little."
Seriously this and Ducati supersport sounds beautiful and best. All credits to schaaf who manages to capture such sounds. Hats off for your efforts. Love your content 🙌🙌
Thanks a ton
Smooth riding : ✔
Winding roads : ✔
Great bike & sound : ✔
Thanks ✌️
Long have we waited !!! Sound of the italiano spaghetti twin to boost our hunger for more raw sounds. Nice 🤣
Thanks :D
Great riding, taking the best line for vision rather than speed and only apexing bends when you have vision to do so safely. And yet you're still really fast!
Thanks Matthew. I try to do a safe and still somewhat quick pace indeed
@@Schaaf più che scalate con classici colpi di acceleratore stile anni 70 .. brucia benzina ...di curve affrontate con una/ due marce in meno e di VELOCITÀ solo sul dritto ...chi CAZZO ti da tutte STE moto da provare...con tanta GENTE BRAVA CHE C'È?????? BOH
I love listening to these videos while I'm at work stuck at my desk. Not quite the stress relief actual riding is but its still nice none the less!
Glad you enjoy it!
You ride in such nice places. So jealous.
Thanks
I love your riding style broo! Keeping it safe but having fun at the same time! This is the example that bikers should follow💯👏🏻
Thanks Mattia!
Such a gorgeous bike, great video as always.
Many thanks!
You should give it another go with the factory model as it adresses all the issues you had with this base version.
Fantastic video as always schaaf!
Thanks
How the hell do you make a twin sound so incredible?!?!? I've never heard anything quite like it.
IKR it sounds like a mini Tuono V4r when rev'd out.
A V-twin (example: Ducati) fires with the 450°-270°-450°-270° interval. All that must be done with a parallel-twin engine to achieve identical firing interval is phase the two crank-pins 90° apart. They call them a 270° parallel twin. Another example is Yamaha's MT-07. th-cam.com/video/P3mZXA4KCas/w-d-xo.html
It's getting to be a very common crank arrangement on a lot of parallel twins these days. Frankly I love it.
First, you invent an incredible sexy V4 and than you cut that very engine into half 😂👍🏻
@@Thorsten_Kueppers Make sure to weld a plate on it, so the oil doesn't dump out all over.
@@exothermal.sprocket Sounds nice, but it'll never be as nice as an actual V-Twin like the SV650: th-cam.com/video/YU8KwWd6q2Q/w-d-xo.html
I would still prefer your raw videos rather than others in youtube. All the best!
Thanks a lot
Der Moment wenn man nur nach Sound-Aufnahmen der Tuono mit originalem Auspuff sucht und genau ein Video auf seiner eigenen Heimstrecke findet. 😂👍🏻
Sehr gute Aufnahmen!👏
Danke, Ernsti
That quick updating screen is incredible
;)
Really tempted to get this as my next bike and think your video may have just confirmed that I need this little aprillia in my life 😃👍great video
Thanks Tom :)
Nevermind the bike! These are some bad ass mountain roads! God do i wanna rip down these! Great vid!
thanks man!
Man i like this style of videos! So happy I found your channel! Can't wait to see more buddy!
Thanks man and welcome!
simply the best ! No word only sound !!!
thanks!
Yeah but dont forget bikes always sound way better in Schaafs videos than in reality, because his mic is in his backpack next to the exhaust. I own a couple motorcycles he made raw videos about and trust me they dont nearly sound as good in reality.
Those rev matching and the sound are nice big fans from you and aprilia😍😍❤️❤️❤️🔥🔥🔥
thanks
First of all tks for having included some images of the moto from the outside at the end. Super nice addition! We were waiting for those!
About the electronics I think that with some time for regulations you could edge down the snatching of the throttle.
For me the main issue of this motorcycle is the similarity in price with the rs without lots of stuff that make the rs660 what it is. It should have had either the same electronics (imu, quickshift, wheelie and traction separately etc.) or a lower price.
Still, what a damn good looking bike!
Yup, that's it. The pricing compared to what you get with the RS indeed is a fail. Too bad
@@Schaaf have you had the chance to try it?
Btw keep up the great work you do, your videos I’m sure have been a blessing in these times not only for me.
Factory verison incoming , they fixed this
Satisfaying sound, lovely corners...
Glad you enjoyed it
Yeah but dont forget bikes always sound way better in Schaafs videos than in reality, because his mic is in his backpack next to the exhaust. I own a couple motorcycles he made raw videos about and trust me they dont nearly sound as good in reality.
Great video probably one of the best sounding bikes on the planet stay safe looking forward to more videos 🇬🇧👍
Thanks 👍
Yeah but dont forget bikes always sound way better in Schaafs videos than in reality, because his mic is in his backpack next to the exhaust. I own a couple motorcycles he made raw videos about and trust me they dont nearly sound as good in reality.
Best sounding bike on the planet? Are you serious?!
Wow what a lovely fun bike! Love the new dashboard👌🏻
Thank you 🤗
Nice to see you on this tuono!
Hey, thanks!
God that thing sounds incredible
Servus,
Das habe ich schon lange gewartet
Freut mich!!
@@Schaaf Darf ich ganz kurz fragen, wie es Dir gefallen hat? Danke
habe ich nicht so gemeint, tut mir leid...
When the rs660 ? I want to see you drive that precious
I can't tell but hopefully during the summer
I'm going to test ride one just like this next friday! Can't wait, seems like a super fun bike.
it absolutely is
@@Schaaf I can only agree! Very easy to ride fast too, it inspires a lot of confidence.
amazing bike love the sound mate and continue with the good videos🙏🔥
Thanks, will do!
Yeah but dont forget bikes always sound way better in Schaafs videos than in reality, because his mic is in his backpack next to the exhaust. I own a couple motorcycles he made raw videos about and trust me they dont nearly sound as good in reality.
Awesome video as usual my man!
Thank you again
In my opinion the Tuono 660 should be compared to similar engine sized bikes. Of course the performance of 890/900cc can be more impressive. Anyway, you probably refer to price as comparison element. All Aprilias sold in Europe are entirely made in Italy, although some parts can come from Asian manufacturers. KTM 890 and Triumph Street Triple if I'm not wrong are made in Asia, and this can explain the relative superior price of the Italian bike. It's just my opinion, congratulation for the nice video as usual!
Yup, I'm definitely looking at the price. Shame the Italian builds are not more reliable than Asian ones haha
@@Schaaf Be honest, you cannot say that quality of Ducati, Aprilia, Mv Agusta, Piaggio or Moto Guzzi motorbikes is in general so bad. In terms of performance, design and style they are probably the best in class combination. The Italian poor reliability is a legend, statistically undemonstrable, it's a commonplace used also for cars. I own and weekly use a 1986 250 Apriila Tuareg Rally and a 1971 Lancia Fulvia coupé. 35 and 50 years old, they are beautiful, performant and perfectly reliable. Instead, I'm lefting on foot by my 1969 Norton Commando at least once a year, and after two years the battery of my BMW ninet was out. In my personal statistics Italians are the best for reliability. Points of view...
Man those aprilia engineers must be part time musicians as well...every engine sounds like music
True that
Hey, what Zoom Settings do you use?
Sie klingt so geil. Einer der Gründe weshalb ich mir gestern eine bestellt habe.
Sehr geil!
Realy nice engine! Any chance you going to ride the Tuareg 660?
Looks stunning!!!
It does!
Situation about engine gets better with dedicated full exhaust and air filter, in Aprilia they had to cut off power due to euro5 restrictions.
sounds like anti social noise levels
Nice ride 🫡, whana get back on an aprilia i just can't decide witch one , hade the aprilia rsv mille 1000 , back in the day arund 115 bhp and that's enough to have fun on, I hope the 660 will feel similar or better fingers crossed 🤞 🫣
Take one of the 1100s, trust me ;)
Just the thing I was looking for!
yea!
I wish you could hear the 660 with a full exhaust. I could say that its in the top 6 off the best sounding motorcykles out there right now. Aprilia V4, Yamaha CP4, Aprilia 660,Yamaha CP2, Yamaha CP3, Ducati V2 1260/1190.
these systems are no bueno in my opinion. We here in Austria are becoming more and more problems with motorcycles being too loud. It is better to stick to more silent options
@@Schaaf Fortunate enough the Police has better things to do in Sweden. And if you have bad luck you get a check control at bilprovningen and have to get the original exhaust on before the check. Easy fix on the tuono V4 and it will cost max 50 euro ; )
pure asmr
Thanks
Nice and clean ride ! And that sound !!!
Thanks!
Yeah but dont forget bikes always sound way better in Schaafs videos than in reality, because his mic is in his backpack next to the exhaust. I own a couple motorcycles he made raw videos about and trust me they dont nearly sound as good in reality.
Great sound, nice video, in which areas was it a disappointment?
What is a quickshifter? New to bikes clearly
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quickshifter
Would be cool if you could do a similar Video with the MT07 and the CB 650 R.
He did with the first gen Mt 07
2021 MT-07 coming soon!
Top Video wie immer 👌
Dank dir!
Der Sound is einfach nur anders brutal 💦
Dank dir!
@@Schaaf das wollte ich immer schon mal fragen woher hast du die ganzen motorräder in den Videos
ASMR""RAW""SOUND"NICE'BIKE"RIDE👍👍👍🚴♂🚴♂🚴♂
thanks again
Amazing video💥🔥💪
Thanks
I've heard there is a flat spot in the middle which might explain things
yup
How does it compare with Duke 790 and MT-07?
More capable and performant
@@Schaaf You mean the duke feels more capable?
@@NFStheStig I think he meant the Tuono, because you asked how IT compares to the other bikes.
Wie is der fuel cut wenn du den Gashahn zudrehst? Der Tuono 1100 war nervig.
Ist mir nicht negativ aufgefallen
Mmmmh hab mir schon gedacht, dass das nicht der große Wurf ist was Aprillia da rausgehauen hat. Wie du schon schön in deiner Schlussfolgerung angedeutet hast sind die KTM und die Triumph da im Moment die Platzhirsche. Schade eigentlich weil der 1100er Thunfisch ein echter Hammer ist. Ich bin übrigens sehr gespannt auf Videos von dir mit der neuen Speed Triplee 1200 RS!!!
Mir ist da beim Text ja der Platz und die Zeit ausgegangen. Auch die Z900 würde ich als überlegen bezeichnen, wenns ums Fahrwerk geht :)
The quirks of an Italian motorcycle are too much for my head, but boy do these things sound good...
Getting famous off of comments day 325, so I can live the dream, live every day like it’s your last🤙
Keep it up
Haha! God speed
Great Video about exhaustsound and curve driving 👍🏽. I think the problem is you can’t compare it very well. It is something between MT-07 and 09 or Duke 690 and 890. Furthermore it will be another feeling or expectation if you drive a Duke 390 or a Tuono V4 before.
Grüße nach Austria 🇦🇹!
You can perfectly compare it with 890 Duke, Street Triple R, Kawasaki Z900, MT-09 - they are all more or less from the same bike class
Finally.
:)
theres this like crackling sound on the bike after aroun 90kmph, can you hear it?
Nope
Wie nimmst du den Sound auf? Wie schaffst du es all diese Windgereusche rauszufiltern?
(Liebe deine Videos👍)
Dazu hatte er schon mal ein Video gemacht, siehe hier: th-cam.com/video/ne8b8DING_A/w-d-xo.html
@@jensloetzsch danke
Im Rucksack nahe dem Auspuff
Der Sound in echt ist wirklich zum Niederknien. Konntest du bereits die Tuono 660 Factory fahren? Wird es ein RAW-Video dazu geben? :)
Leider nein :/
Schade. Weitermachen so! ;)
Sehr geil. Und das ganze vohr meiner Haustüre gg schade das ich nichts bitbekommen habe 😁
war eh laut genug ;)
Can you make a tutorial on how you upshift and downshift? Awesome riding as always!
There's plenty on TH-cam
@@Schaaf i want to learn straight from the master :D
die strassen in österreich sieht sehr schön aus. hoffentlich haben wir bald auch gute riding wetter hier in finnland
Hoffentlich!!
I've been seriously considering ditching my z900 and getting this. It looks beautiful and sounds amazing. How does the Tuono 660 compare with the 1st gen z900?
Noooo
I would stick to the Z
i have a z900rs and tested the rs660. DONT DO THAT.
We want the rs 660!! (RAW)
th-cam.com/video/A_lVU5NGIUY/w-d-xo.html
Love it!
Thanks!!
Wo Schaaf fährt ist Musik 😁
freut mich ;)
Ich finde das Video super, die für deine Verhältnisse schlechtere Qualität stört mich persönlich nicht. Vorallem wenn das mehr Videos von dir bedeutet!
Andere Frage: Ist der Ramsattel die neue 1000ps Teststrecke? :)
Hehehe nein, nur meine persönliche ;)
Na dann werden wir uns bestimmt mal sehen :D
Moin
Hallo lieber Valentin.
Man glaubt gar nicht, dass das die "Kleine" ist.....der Sound ist doch ganz "nice"....
Dennoch....der V4 ist einfach unerreicht...♥️
Schöne Grüße nach Österreich 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼🐎🐎🐎
Der V4 ist sowas von unerreicht ;) Danke, Bernd!
Do you have to release the throttle to gear up? I have a shifter on my bike but I must maintain the gaz. Is there different systems?
This bike has no Quickshifter
@@Schaaf hooo thanks for the reply. I didn't notice your left fingers moving. Do you gear up without using the clutch?
Tuono 660 or duke 890r.... Which is ur favorite
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@@Schaaf i am looking for a bike which is easy to ride on city commutes and much much fun on twisties.... 🙃🙌plz hlp😌
Hi Schaaf, hope you don't mind me asking, are you still using the hero 7 for these videos or have you upgraded to the 9?
Hero7
Blow me away how they made a p twin sound like a real sportbike.
Yea!!
I love your unique presentation style and subscribed for it. Did the TC kick-in at a few places (like @1:38 and @1:47)? I feel Aprilia should have made a v-twin version rather than the p-twin (like Ducati does) and had the pricing same as the Tuono. At any rate, it’s a nice looking bike. Do you think it will be a better track day bike than the Duke 890?
yes that is the TC indicator light! I'd prefer the 890 for track use since it has a bit more punch
Great video as always. I have one question, would you say this bike is great for someone who is experienced but is getting back into motorcycling and wants more torque than top end power?
and as always thank you for posting great videos.
If we're talking about low end torque instead of power, I think this bike isn't quite the case. The engine is meant to be sporty, it's pretty oversquared, it likes to be revved, peak power (95bhp) at 10.500rpm, peak torque (67Nm) at 8.500rpm. For reference, MT07 makes the same torque, but 2000rpm earlier! (Although it's waaay less powerful, 20 bhp less). Nevertheless, the Tuono is a proper great bike, top notch chassis, state of the art electronics, rock solid front end, so flickable. I have a much more powerful MT09, I had the chance to ride the Aprilia for a couple of hours... I'M IN LOVE.
@@simonegiannini2421 surprising experience, you would prefere tuono compare to MT09?
@@MrHejsak as a first bike, or "comeback" bike, I would say so. It's lighter, more friendly (but not boring!) and has a better front end. (Mind that I've never ridden the 2021 MT09, so I can't compare, I'm talking about the old gen, which I own). The Yamaha is much more powerful, even too much for a new user, you can feel torque and power at any rev, but it's also less prone to be ridden hard, less "precise". The Aprilia is less powerful, but it can "teach you" how to ride fast as you get experienced.
@@simonegiannini2421 Tanks for your response. On the market of a new bike. It will be my second bike (already have F800GS) so MT09 would be better fit for me
@@MrHejsak In this case I think the Yamaha would suit you better. Try both, if you have the chance, because the MT is dynamite, but not everyone likes its weird sitting position, while the Tuono has less bhp, but has a high "falling in love" factor. Have fun with your new bike, let us know which one you choose!
which is better for you between this aprillia tuono 660 and the 790 duke
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Another motorcycle journalist made the same comment about the power falling in the midrange too. I wonder if it's the same case with the RS660. Maybe it can be fixed with a tune? Someone will find out eventually lol
I hope I can find out in the summer whether it's the same with the RS ;)
What’s the rattling in the background?
zipper of my sound recorder bag
The way it accelerates seems to be from a bigger than 660cc engine. Even so, once again, the video is amazing. Only one question. You said that the bike was a dissapoinment in some areas. What did you mean? In the video, everything seems to be perfect
thanks
Looks nice. Ich glaub aber ein V2 wäre viel besser gwesn statt dem R2. Vll. Kann man das mit der performance mit luftfilter und auspuff richten 🤷🏻♂️
Super video, wie immer 👍🏻
Ja, V2 wär definitiv wünschenswert ;)
Salut, i ride a 765 r actualy and i want to change for tuono 660 but i can.t Try it for the moment… wich is better for u?🇫🇷
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Hey Schaaf!
How did you find the bike in terms of detail and build quality?
I saw an acid gold RS660 and for some reason I felt a bit dissapointed: I kind of think the metallic colour of the chassis/swingarm/triple-clamp looks a bit cheap, but maybe in other colours it looks better... I don't know!
P.S: the Duke 890r appears to sound a lot better from the video you made recently! I will look forward to hearing the 660 in person :D
when it comes to build quality it is very similar to its similarly priced opponents in my opinion.
890 duke sounds like a damn dirtbike 🤢
why would someone compare a 660cc with a 890cc - 900cc engine?
price
@@Schaaf Why not compare all those then to a gsx1000s or cb1000?
seems a bit odd to compare completely different powerplant classes based on price alone. realistically the 660 should be compared to are the ninja 650,
sv650, mt07, possibly cb650 even though its an i4. Thats certainly a much more fair comparison. The logic behind comparing these based solely on price falls apart pretty easily and actually makes zero sense. Otherwise its gonna boil down to just getting whatever the cheapest liter bike is...
@@anonjohnnyG By "performance" he's referring to more than just straight line speed, cheap liter naked bikes are usually heavy and don't handle well, so they feel worse to ride on these kinds of roads than the 660. Something like a Duke 890 R handles better (at least according to what I've read, I've never ridden one) and is also faster while being the same price.
@@speedpower2740 First off they are not the same price. Second, by that logic, why not compare with 1000cc naked bikes that are same price as the duke? The tuono with imu and quickshift is still 2 grand cheaper than the duke with track and tech pack added. So really just as you are saying price constitutes not comparing the tuono to other bikes i mentioned, is the same logic why comparing the tuono to the duke (or any other bike with 700+ displacement) makes no sense either. Saying yea this bike is not as fast as one with 1.5x the displacement is proof that an uneducated person is doing the comparison.
For the record i own a duke and an smcr
@@speedpower2740 You also have to take into account weather or not the suspension is adjusted optimally for the rider. You can take the highest grade suspension and chassis and make it feel like even worse than a cheap bikes stock setup.
can you get somewhere aprilia rs 125 2t for testride please?
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Nice RAW videos...But why 1st gear though?
Because I want maximum torque
Why are you flicking the throttle with a quick shifter?
Its only an option for the bike so he probably doesnt have one... Or he's just having fun
I flick the throttle because it has none. Reading helps. Thanks +Vince
I'm looking forward for you to ride the cbr650r and compare it with aprilia rs 660/ tuono 660 in term of the handling and the riding experience, how the engine respond. Thank you Schaaf.
the CB650R ride is available for my channel members
What is the difference between the RS660 and Tuono 660
Google it
Video &Sound Bombe, wie immer😉👍🏽
Geht ein Vergleich mit der V4 oder sind’s Welten?!
Schöne Grüße aus Mödling 😉🤙🏽
Mehr als Welten ;) Danke!
@@Schaaf thx für die Info 🤣👍🏽
Kaufe mir im Frühling vermutlich ein A2 Bike, was würdet ihr eher empfehlen, die Tuono 660 oder eine 790/890Duke L?
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Why do you flick the throttle after downshift. Just curious, is there any reason behind doing it?
Rev matching
@@Schaaf got it. Thanks 👍
Why do you let of the gas while shifting up. You are not pulling the clutch so I was guessing it has a quickshifter. Are there multiple quickshifters which work differently?
it has no quickshifter
@@Schaaf but why don't you pull the clutch then. Or am I just stupid :D
Hat die Aprilia rs660 eigentlich den gleichen Motor?
Relativ gleich
Im looking forward to buy it as my A2 license bike but is it really that disappointing I mean I could get it new one for the price of a used one because I know the store owner. Should I buy it?
if you feel comfortable on it yes
Sounds good right of the box this bike.
absolutely!
Yeah but dont forget bikes always sound way better in Schaafs videos than in reality, because his mic is in his backpack next to the exhaust. I own a couple motorcycles he made raw videos about and trust me they dont nearly sound as good in reality.
Can you recorder one video without superview? I think with a smaller fov the road is more realistic and reflect better you driving skill.
Wide open from italy
To get a realistic view of the road you'd have to use a very narrow filming angle. And that wouldn't work too well on the motorcycle. But thanks still for the suggestion
Wie schlägt sich die Tuono 660 gegen eine Ducati Supersport 950? Hat sie ähnlich starke Vibrationen und gleicht die Laufkultur des Motors derer der Supersport 950? Wie ist die Leistung im Verhältnis zur Supersport? Was würdest du bevorzugen bzw. fährt sich deiner Meinung nach besser?
Viele Grüße
Etienne Scheid
die Super Sport läuft ein wenig rau, hat (meinem Gedächtnis nach) stärkere Vibrationen. Aber gleichzeitig einen wesentlich lebendigeren und aufregenderen Motor. Ich würde die DUcati nehmen.