Today, we have a Ford E-450 passenger van/bus used primarily for paratransit. This one only has around 6700 miles on the clock. Engine: Ford Triton V10 (6.8 liter gasoline)
We just got a brand new Starcraft F-650 44 passenger bus with that v10 under the hood at work. I am biting at the bit to drive it for the first time. We are waiting for a company wrap for the exterior but since its been delivered it has less than 1500 miles on the odo where as all of our current fleet has over 200k miles. Id imagine that little short bus you are driving hauls major a double s with that powerplant under the hood.
It ain't bad at all. However, we have a few newer Ford cutaways with the same powerplant, but they are low-floor cutaways make by a different bus maker. Don't know how different they are but those are some of the worst vehicles I've ever driven.
turn tow/haul on and stop doing all that shifting. It will do it for you with tow/haul on. tap breaks twice if you want it to down shift etc. i was here to see if your steering wheel vibrated over little bumps like our 2018 e-450 rv 13k pounds does.
i agree with Gillig Bus Operator. Well I said this in another video and not gonna be rude, but in my opinion I understand the need for them is based on property/agency/purpose but they ride so rough, require constant maintenance and are just not as driver-friendly as a transit and/or even as a school bus. With this in mind, next time a get a Thomas Minotour (if it's brand new) I would want it to have the body be built on an E-450 derived stripped chassis (from the same model year) with airbag suspension and have it easy to maintain as a Honda CR-V (at least the front of the bus)
Ok so I saw this comment on the other video and thought, "woah someone else said the se thing on the other video," and it was you lol. I feel ya, they're an interesting concept and certainly ride rough, but so many agencies use them that I wonder what makes them so attractive!
@@eugew23 I also forgot to point out that just like another user said, these cutaway van derivative buses require little to no CDL to be driven. By the way, the cutaway van chassis really is rather designed for cargo than carrying tons of people in my opinion. Mostly, these cutaway chassis tend to use a more durable setup intended for cargo, rather than one that rides smoothly for passengers. For example, some cutaway buses are equipped with airbag suspension that ride much better, but the extra cost to buy and maintain them would withdraw their value. In fact I was planning on modifying a Thomas minotour bodied on the Ford cutaway chassis so that it would be easy to maintain, but never got to it cause of the cost.
This 2017 Ford E-450 XLT Super Duty Starcraft Allstar with WC Lift equipped by Ford's 4 speed Torqshift transmission and Ford Triton V10 6.8L gas engine.
I hated driving those Ford/ Starcrafts! The Engine always reved so high and made me think that damn thing was going to blow up. The ride was also horrendous. Not to mention the fuel Economy was worse than a full-size coach.
Cutaways are the WORST thing anybody could buy. I understand the need for them is based on property/agency/purpose but they ride so rough, require constant maintenance and are just not as driver-friendly as a standard transit bus (hell, even a school bus).
This is a great e series van and if you don't like em why watch this video it's all about a cutaway bus chassis and I'm a big fan of them and the great v10 seen many chevy with this setup and they had too much breakdowns left many drivers shut down the v10 ford's only needed oil changes I have never had to work on or had to have one worked on I was a shuttle driver for 14 years the v10 was better then any diesels we had even
That V10 Triton goes real hard, it sounds amazing 🥶💯
I work for Fedex and ran out of a Budget truck with this motor the other day, I floored it everywhere I went it sounded so good.
Its incredible how how you where shifting it manually with the colume shifter
All in the name of shits and giggles. Something fun about column shifters 🤣
@@eugew23 it’s so outdated for 2017 don’t you think
@@xxxsuperxxx6938 No, as it satisfy me
That’s a nice looking mini bus.
Sounds just like the dial a ride buses I take to work
We just got a brand new Starcraft F-650 44 passenger bus with that v10 under the hood at work. I am biting at the bit to drive it for the first time. We are waiting for a company wrap for the exterior but since its been delivered it has less than 1500 miles on the odo where as all of our current fleet has over 200k miles. Id imagine that little short bus you are driving hauls major a double s with that powerplant under the hood.
It ain't bad at all. However, we have a few newer Ford cutaways with the same powerplant, but they are low-floor cutaways make by a different bus maker. Don't know how different they are but those are some of the worst vehicles I've ever driven.
I have been driving E 350's for 20 years
turn tow/haul on and stop doing all that shifting. It will do it for you with tow/haul on. tap breaks twice if you want it to down shift etc. i was here to see if your steering wheel vibrated over little bumps like our 2018 e-450 rv 13k pounds does.
Or just leave it in drive?
To answer your question - yes, the steering wheel does vibrate
This changed in the 2021 version but I like how they still used the 90s ford steering wheel
cool! Thanks a lot!
1:12 you can really hear that V10 purr
I love the sound of the bus driving, it's so fasinating
1:26 bus stop 4:07 arrival
I seen lots of Ford buses with a sign that says “This vehicle stops at all R/R crossings”.
i agree with Gillig Bus Operator. Well I said this in another video and not gonna be rude, but in my opinion I understand the need for them is based on property/agency/purpose but they ride so rough, require constant maintenance and are just not as driver-friendly as a transit and/or even as a school bus. With this in mind, next time a get a Thomas Minotour (if it's brand new) I would want it to have the body be built on an E-450 derived stripped chassis (from the same model year) with airbag suspension and have it easy to maintain as a Honda CR-V (at least the front of the bus)
Ok so I saw this comment on the other video and thought, "woah someone else said the se thing on the other video," and it was you lol.
I feel ya, they're an interesting concept and certainly ride rough, but so many agencies use them that I wonder what makes them so attractive!
@@eugew23 yep but idk lol
@@eugew23 it’s the price & convenience they fit in tighter spaces, don’t require a CDL
@@TazTrucking thought so too
@@eugew23 I also forgot to point out that just like another user said, these cutaway van derivative buses require little to no CDL to be driven.
By the way, the cutaway van chassis really is rather designed for cargo than carrying tons of people in my opinion.
Mostly, these cutaway chassis tend to use a more durable setup intended for cargo, rather than one that rides smoothly for passengers.
For example, some cutaway buses are equipped with airbag suspension that ride much better, but the extra cost to buy and maintain them would withdraw their value.
In fact I was planning on modifying a Thomas minotour bodied on the Ford cutaway chassis so that it would be easy to maintain, but never got to it cause of the cost.
0:02 key. 0:25 door open 0:42 gears 1:05 drive 1:28 sport? 5:54 goodbye
This 2017 Ford E-450 XLT Super Duty Starcraft Allstar with WC Lift equipped by Ford's 4 speed Torqshift transmission and Ford Triton V10 6.8L gas engine.
I have a V10 Thomas Minotour with a Ford E-450 engine.
I like the cutaway buses to have a diesel engines to use on the paratransit shuttle services.
Unfortunately, Ford removed their 6.0L Power Stroke V8 Turbo Diesel from all of their E-Series cutaway after the 2010 model year.
Rides Like A Full Size Van.
Wow a bus that has a manual on the side of the steering wheel wow
6.0 diesel was discontinued for 2010 Model Year on Ford Super Duty Vans
Yes.
How many can that bus seat
This V10 sounds like a V8
wow
what's with shifting the gears you are driving an automatic best way to blow transmission
Have you ever had any fun in your life?
I guess if it ain’t his who cares bout the companies transmission 🙄 I hate when people do this to other peoples things
How did you engage the high idle feature
I think it was a feature it came with. It engaged automatically.
0:01
1:26 bus stop
Do these have air ride suspension ?
I don't believe so.
3:30 and 4:14 😍
Broooooo I thought Winding Road Magazine made this video 😂😂😂😂
So funny you say that tho because that channel was my inspiration from the very beginning.
Damnn bro Wanna know how i thought wrong? Ok, here it is. Cause That looks like the camera angle That he has bro 😂😂😂 damnn@eugew23
I want to drive that bus
I have a Thomas Minotour
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V10 gasoline is was a very unacceptable sound I've heard in my own life period
I hated driving those Ford/ Starcrafts! The Engine always reved so high and made me think that damn thing was going to blow up. The ride was also horrendous. Not to mention the fuel Economy was worse than a full-size coach.
Personally I think a Ram 3500 chassis with a Cummins 6.7 would be much better for the type of application
Cutaways are the WORST thing anybody could buy. I understand the need for them is based on property/agency/purpose but they ride so rough, require constant maintenance and are just not as driver-friendly as a standard transit bus (hell, even a school bus).
International ic CE with the Maxxforce DT would be so much better than this pile of crap v10 shitter.
This is a great e series van and if you don't like em why watch this video it's all about a cutaway bus chassis and I'm a big fan of them and the great v10 seen many chevy with this setup and they had too much breakdowns left many drivers shut down the v10 ford's only needed oil changes I have never had to work on or had to have one worked on I was a shuttle driver for 14 years the v10 was better then any diesels we had even
@@stevenhooten4275 my opinion has changed and I don’t mind cutaway buses.
The Ford V10 is...weird. You had her pegged at 3:30 and it sounded...not great.
Yuuuuppp
@@eugew23 nah that v10 goes hard bro
Tf u talm bout it sounds fye🧐
The v10 sounds great if you don't like it it's not a hot rod sound I love the sound though better then a 5.4l or a 6.2l in my opinion
The Ford V-10 is one of the best sounding engines out there, its incredibly smooth and balanced
You sure that's a bus?
It is look closely
U hall
It is a bus.
V10 shi can 😂