High Speed Trains in the Netherlands

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  • A look at the types of high-speed train operating in the Netherlands.
    List of shots:
    0:00 Eurostar entering HSL Zuid north of Rotterdam
    0:15 Eurostar departing Rotterdam Central Station
    0:49 Eurostar passing Lage Zwaluwe at 209 km/h
    1:09 Eurostar passing Lage Zwaluwe at 287 km/h
    1:31 Thalys departing Rotterdam Central Station
    2:15 Thalys passing Noorderkempen (Belgium) at 300 km/h
    2:26 Thalys passing Lage Zwaluwe at 292 km/h
    2:36 Thalys passing Lage Zwaluwe at 300 km/h with horn
    2:52 Thalys passing Noorderkempen (Belgium) at 262 km/h
    3:08 ICE departing Utrecht Central Station
    3:43 ICE passing Maarssen at 120 km/h.
    Two of the shots are actually filmed in Belgium, but the same high speed line does continue across the border into the Netherlands.
    Music is a thing I made.
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ความคิดเห็น • 62

  • @GoogleGebruiker
    @GoogleGebruiker 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Vmax van ICE3 = 330 km/h

    • @OntarioTrafficMan
      @OntarioTrafficMan  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Oeps, je hebt gelijk. Mijn fout.

    • @TrainzEchelleN
      @TrainzEchelleN 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@OntarioTrafficMan Het is gewoon 320kmh, hij rijdt nergens harder dan 320. Anders zou je ook over de Thalys hoger kunnen zeggen...

    • @OntarioTrafficMan
      @OntarioTrafficMan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TrainzEchelleN Met "Vmax" bedoelde ik de maximumsnelheid van de trein zelf. Volgens Alstom kunnen de Thalys PBA en PBKA 320 km/h rijden, en volgens Siemens kan de ICE3 330 km/h.

    • @pingpongpung
      @pingpongpung ปีที่แล้ว

      @@OntarioTrafficMan 320 maar? Een TGV kan 574 rijden, althans in speciale samenstelling.

    • @OntarioTrafficMan
      @OntarioTrafficMan  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@pingpongpung De Thalys treinen hebben geen certificatie om boven 320 te rijden in reguliere dienst.

  • @braydenzhang2488
    @braydenzhang2488 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    The Eurostar trains are so nice. I really hope Canada gets these some day.

    • @OntarioTrafficMan
      @OntarioTrafficMan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      We can dream! There is certainly a strong case for high-speed trains in the Toronto-Montréal corridor, and numerous studies have recommended it.

    • @Imu-Sama.
      @Imu-Sama. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Unfortunately these trains was made to go in different European countries with different electrical rules, and I think Canada dont nedd that 😅

    • @StefanWithTrains3222
      @StefanWithTrains3222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Imu-Sama. don't you know trains can be modified and the siemens Velaro D will be used in Brightline west LA-los Angeles

    • @paname514
      @paname514 ปีที่แล้ว

      The real nice Eurostar trains are the TGV TMW Class 373. Class 374 is heresy.

    • @evo3s75
      @evo3s75 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Imu-Sama. the Siemens Velaro is also used outside of EU tho, like in China and Russia

  • @matteopennacchietti9831
    @matteopennacchietti9831 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I want trains like this in Canada :( why is north america so backwards

  • @transportguy4903
    @transportguy4903 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for telling me where you took the video!

  • @martintirpak1033
    @martintirpak1033 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video. I enjoyed it alot :)

  • @291281
    @291281 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great high-speed trains video
    Regards from Madrid , reaperexpress

  • @HenrysAdventures
    @HenrysAdventures 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brillaint video!

  • @overspray5281
    @overspray5281 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the genesis style intro music

  • @KarolaTea
    @KarolaTea 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How come the vmax for NL? Just happens to be that that's the max that the lines they currently run on can do, or an actual speed limit on the trains themselves?

    • @OntarioTrafficMan
      @OntarioTrafficMan  4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I probably should have been clearer. It's the fastest speed they actually achieve in Nederland, so the highest speed limit along their particular route within the country.

    • @KarolaTea
      @KarolaTea 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ah right, that makes sense. Was thinking that'd probably it, but wasn't 100% sure ^^ Thanks!

    • @pjotrtje0NL
      @pjotrtje0NL 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The ICE can only run so relatively slow because it runs on standard tracks, whereas Thalys and the Eurostar run on High Speed Line track.

  • @charliemulder3492
    @charliemulder3492 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beste , leuke video . Hoe weet je de snelheid zo nauwkeurig? Gr

    • @OntarioTrafficMan
      @OntarioTrafficMan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Bedankt! Van de video meet ik precies wanneer de voorkant en achterkant van de trein en gegeven punt passeren (bv een paal of iets). De snelheid is de lengte van de trein (volgens Wikipedia) verdeeld door het tijdverschil tussen de voorkant en achterkant van de trein. Met treinen van 100+ meter en een video met 30 beelden per seconde kan het best nauwkeurig zijn.

  • @nickdecoen
    @nickdecoen 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hoi, Hoe meet jij de snelheid van die voorbij rijdende treinen?

    • @OntarioTrafficMan
      @OntarioTrafficMan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Van de video meet ik precies wanneer de voorkant en achterkant van de trein en gegeven punt passeren (bv een paal of iets). De snelheid is de lengte van de trein (volgens Wikipedia) verdeeld door het tijdverschil tussen de voorkant en achterkant van de trein.

  • @julian-xy7gh
    @julian-xy7gh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why does it look like the Eurostar is driving on the left track?

    • @OntarioTrafficMan
      @OntarioTrafficMan  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      South of Rotterdam, the high speed line switches to left-side running because in Belgium trains drive on the left. There is a grade separation in Barendrecht which swaps the tracks over each other.

  • @jonaskstar4
    @jonaskstar4 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Door welk station rolde de Thalys met 262 km/h?

    • @OntarioTrafficMan
      @OntarioTrafficMan  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Noorderkempen (België). Alle stations staan in de beschrijving.

  • @trixyvesper4814
    @trixyvesper4814 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nu ik deze video heb gezien ga ik morgen (vrijdag 3 oktober 2021) met een vriend ook naar station Lage Zwaluwe om de treinen voorbij te zien racen...😎

    • @OntarioTrafficMan
      @OntarioTrafficMan  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cool! Lage Zwaluwe is een prima plek om een goede variëteit (en snelheid!) van treinen te zien. En je vindt er vaak andere mensen die treinen aan het filmen zijn!

    • @trixyvesper4814
      @trixyvesper4814 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@OntarioTrafficMan Nice, maar kan je ook weten wanneer er hogesnelheidstreinen zoals de Thalys en de Eurostar voorbij rijden?

    • @OntarioTrafficMan
      @OntarioTrafficMan  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@trixyvesper4814 ja check de dienstregeling van Eurostar en Thalys tussen Rotterdam en station Brussel Zuid/Midi. Lage Zwaluwe is vgm 10-15 minuten ten zuiden van Rotterdam

  • @JasperJanssen
    @JasperJanssen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What, no Fyra?

    • @OntarioTrafficMan
      @OntarioTrafficMan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      No, they've thankfully been banished to Italy.
      I thought of trying to catch an ICNG doing its testing, but I don't think high-speed testing has started yet, and even when it does it will be at night which would be difficult to capture with my phone's camera.

  • @dennisverweij4817
    @dennisverweij4817 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ah laage Zwaluwe, the station in the middle of nowhere. And I don't understand why the Intercity direct stops at Noorderkampen...

    • @OntarioTrafficMan
      @OntarioTrafficMan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes, Lage Zwaluwe is hilarious. It's in the middle of nowhere but a great place to film trains given the variety of train types. When I was there there were more people filming trains than people actually waiting for a train.
      The IC Brussel stops in Noorderkempen because the station exists and the IC is the only non-high-speed service. Before the ICB was rerouted onto the HSL, NMBS ran a shuttle service from Antwerpen Centraal to Noorderkempen which was of course a huge waste of money. Stopping the IC is much cheaper.
      The real question is whether the station should have been built in the first place.

    • @pjotrtje0NL
      @pjotrtje0NL 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@OntarioTrafficMan Noorderkempen is Belgian politics. Citizens (and thus, Flemish politicians) asked “finally a train runs through our area, we want a station there or we don’t sign the deal for this railroad. And so it was built...

  • @allws9683
    @allws9683 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The high speed rail service is SO bad in Netherlands! Especially if you look price-value/time...A Thalys should be able to do Amsterdam-Brussels in 60/70 min. But since the Belgians don't bother to build High speed track between Brussels and the Dutch border it takes 1:35h. And you pay €80 , for which half the distance you go at

    • @OntarioTrafficMan
      @OntarioTrafficMan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Amsterdam - Brussels is 214 km, and the Thalys does it in 1:53, which is an average speed of 114 km/h. That is indeed slower than many other high speed services, but still faster than any NS intercity train, despite the slow travel through Amsterdam. If you look only between Schiphol Airport and Brussels, the Thalys averages 126 km/h, which is way faster than any NS train service. And between Schiphol and Paris the train averages 166 km/h which is considerably above the maximum speed of IC trains.
      Of the 214 km from Amsterdam to Brussels, 130 km is on 300 km/h high speed lines, including 36 km on the Belgian side of the border. And while it's true that the trains travel

    • @allws9683
      @allws9683 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@OntarioTrafficMan I guess I stepped on your toes.... I am not talking about the french corridor, but about the dutch/belgian section. With such poor travel times you just cannot charge 2x (IC Brussels) and 3x (Thalys) the normal fare rate! By the way the Thalys only stops in Antwerp (IC Brussels stops everywhere ). The av. speed (without stops ) of Thalys between Antwerp and Brussels is 93kmh! ( 59km in 38min). Even IC Amersfoort-Zwolle is faster!

    • @Paul_C
      @Paul_C 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@allws9683 I really don't care about speed, I tend to use a train because it is convenient, brings me right into the city centre. I never understood why people fly into an airport reasonably far away from Paris. But hey, you might be one who travels on a whim, not me, I travel because I have to reach a destination. Whining about 10 miles faster doesn't save on overall time.

    • @OntarioTrafficMan
      @OntarioTrafficMan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@allws9683 I have no problem with your argument, in fact I agree with some of your points. I have a problem with the statements you made which are not true.

    • @f1freakf127
      @f1freakf127 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Overall they need to build more highspeed tracks since the thalys only stops in Antwerp. Its crazy that the train is being slowed down so much. It should be doing 300 from the moment it leaves Amsterdam until Antwerp and the after Antwerp full speed to Paris. I hope they do it soon both Belgians and Dutch

  • @BaltimoreAndOhioRR
    @BaltimoreAndOhioRR 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🚅🚃🚃 𝕾𝖎𝖒𝖕𝖑𝖞 𝕬𝖜𝖊𝖘𝖔𝖒𝖊 🚃🚃👍

  • @TrainspotterGouda
    @TrainspotterGouda 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone seeing that the ice 3 has a 1 hour delay? Typical DB and NS

    • @OntarioTrafficMan
      @OntarioTrafficMan  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The ICE has far more delays than any normal NS line.

  • @spandy1928
    @spandy1928 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The ice 3 is a normal not a Velaro

  • @garry8390
    @garry8390 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome but very loud

    • @pjotrtje0NL
      @pjotrtje0NL 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yet less loud than an aircraft... And it’s passed in four seconds!

    • @garry8390
      @garry8390 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pjotrtje0NL Cool

    • @f1freakf127
      @f1freakf127 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i areas where people live there are sound barriers and you hardly hear them when they fly by . Once i was waiting a bus near the train station in Brussels near the airport when i hardly heard the Thalys fly by at full speed. And i was on the other side of the wall :)

  • @therealdutchidiot
    @therealdutchidiot 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's would be DB without having over an hour of delays...

    • @OntarioTrafficMan
      @OntarioTrafficMan  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      To be fair, it's not just DB. It's all train operators in Germany. There are also tons of delays on trains operated by Abellio(NS), Keolis, RRX(National Express), etc. I think it's a problem more with the infrastructure and dispatching than the train operators themselves.

  • @Ph4nt0mK1t5un3Official
    @Ph4nt0mK1t5un3Official 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Tbh in like the e300 better

    • @blackman-bp4tq
      @blackman-bp4tq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Class 373

    • @paname514
      @paname514 ปีที่แล้ว

      *TGV TMST

    • @danielswtr4131
      @danielswtr4131 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      With the "zoom zoom zoom zoom" sound when they travel at speed.