5 minutes of traffic on a Dutch roundabout with bi-directional cycling lanes
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- A top view from the 16th floor. The video captures a few traffic violations, a wheelchair-bike and lots of bicycles.
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In the netherlands
we dont say look out for the bycicles
but we say gvd daar heb je die kut fietsers weer and i think thats butifal
Lmao what does that mean
@@PlatypusPGM" godammit there you have those p*ssy bycicles again" with kut=p*ssy but here in a meaning of awful - despicable , youtube this is just a translation, don't ban me😉
Bakkes want je bent zelf ook een fietser
More like: Get out of the bike-line you stupid tourist!
"butifal"
Stranger: Wow, this futuristic organized shit is crazy.
Dutch person: Why am I watching a roundabout?!?
Ikr
@@azzamrey7669 I'm not Dutch and I don't see anything futuristic about this roundabout. Unique yes, roundabouts are not usually for bikes, but I'm also wondering why would I watch this for 5 minutes.
@@roadto200million I'm also not dutch. What's futuristic about this video is not the design and looks, it's the behaviour. The drivers are not headless chickens rushing, they are respecting the cyclists (by law of course).
And by the way more cyclists = healthier environment
@@azzamrey7669 Oh I didn't realize all the fuss is about the behavior. I still think drivers behave like this in many civilized countries, but yes, there are a lot of places with inconsiderate car drivers. So I get the appeal but still don't think I would call it futuristically impressive. Props to dutch people for being good drivers for sure.
@@roadto200million You haven't been to many countries, haven't you? Just look at France, Italy or Russia for instance.
Is this just a normal roundabout for Dutch?! As an Italian, this looks like something from another futuristic planet
It's not something you would see everywhere but if I stumbled upon it I wouldn't even think about it once. Incredibly normal.
These are pretty common here in The Netherlands.
it is normal but it is much safer if the cycling lanes are one direction. because in the situation in the video ,the cars have to look two sides
Pretty normal
This is a busier one than the average roundabout, but in terms of shape it's pretty normal. On the lower left you can see bicycle parking space, so it may be very close to a school or something.
I’m Dutch and I really can’t imagine you guys find this weird.
I’m from Luxembourg and apart from the brilliant cycle paths this is a normal roundabout to me
I’m Australian and this blows my mind. It makes me want to cry.
Here going through roundabouts on a bike is an exercise in not getting rammed into by a car.
Damn, you can find these roundabouts like everywhere in the Netherlands, even in my own street.
I was just reading the comments and found out it's at radboud in Nijmegen 😂😂😂 cycled here multiple times a week until lockdown and I didn't even notice while watching the video.. Just because this roundabout could be literally any roundabout in the country
As a British person who spent a year in the Netherlands, I fucking miss these roundabouts...
I love your profile picture, it's adorable 😊
As a dutch truck driver who drives in the uk, me too...
Im Dutch, and i can't wait for the day I'll go to Swindon
@@jarnorodriguesdemiranda1833 ahh the terror that is the magic roundabout... it’s on odd thing that just works... idk why else you’d want to go to Swindon tho 😂
@@jammy2597 I'd go there for a hommage to the honda factory
The success depends on the fact that most car-drivers are also cyclists vice versa. If the rules favor the weakest in traffic and you know how it feels you behave correct. Almost every Dutch person grew up with a bicycle..
Every Dutch person
Only ones why didn't are not from the netherlands
Who*
That and the fact that cyclists and pedestrians have the right of way.
this is for sure a good cultural way for people to understand the interaction
@@damarh Not always
Persies godverdomme
When the music kicked in I went through my tabs trying to work out if another video had started playing! :)
Ahhh.... It started playing right when I read your comment
Me2
me too.....i was confused for a second...
@@TheoriginalBMT me too
Note that the bicycle lanes take up half the space as the car lanes, but transport more people.
except those poor souls will reach their destination sweaty and tired and wet if it's raining or cold if it's winter
@@wp272 1) Dutch don't race on their bikes. We ride at a relaxed pace that does not make us sweaty or tired. Also riding our bikes daily gives us a good condition.
2) We have appropriate clothing. We say: there is no bad weather, only bad clothing.
Meanwhile Yankees become fatter and fatter and die of heart disease and diabetis.
@@boldvankaalen3896 you must decide you ride relaxed or have good condition. Because riding in HR zone 1 dont affect your condition. I have good condition but i ride with 80% of my max HR for and hour.
@@wp272 Wow, you need to actually travel to somewhere like this and see. Nobody is cold in winter because they wear appropriate clothing and are cycling, which keeps them warm. Nobody sweats because they ride at a sensible pace and the are few gradients (this last is admittedly a lucky consequence of Holland's topgraphy) and almost everyone is slim, happy and fit unlike the US or here in the UK where the car is king and anger, frustration and obesity rule the roads. Can you see a single example of aggression or impatience in this video? No? Because the system works.
Cars suck, booo cars
AND IT WORKS! I swear to god, every time I ride my bike in Sydney it's like people are trying to kill me in traffic
Does it, though? what happens at rush hour if traffic jams are created in light traffic?
Still, very interesting solution with very interesting characteristics that you rarely see elsewhere (for example, you can actually SEE the people you should let pass).
@@SirEdwardeight it does work
@@blikies in 5 minutes of video, 83 cars enter the shot, but only 72 exit it. This is a tad more than the average number of cars you can see at any time in the shot, which is about 9-10.
So a new car enters the roundabout every 3 seconds (from all four directions, that's an average of 12 seconds for a car to appear from the same direction),
3 seconds for 9 cars is around 27-30 seconds (not including the queues not visible in the shot).
These 27-30 seconds are the average time it takes for a car to make it all the way through the camera shot.
And this is on a sunny day. Those are not the numbers you normally see in a standard city during rush hours. Either it is not rush hour , or it is the Netherlands, which is not always comparable. Plus,it is a open area, not a city center with houses crammed one upon the other. A suburb, maybe?
17 cars a minute in a 4-ways roundabout. That's the same number of cars that passed in this moment through the intersection I can see from my window, and it's a calm day of limited traffic (Covid restrictions, you now) at lunch-time on a two-lane road crossing a 1-lane local road at a traffic light.
This is NOT heavy traffic. The difference is, this much traffic, here, never causes vehicles to wait 1.30 minutes, like it happens to at least two of those in the video, nor 1.00, like it happens to multiple of them. Not even close.
What will happen during rush hours? Cars taking 5 minutes to cross a roundabout, polluting uselessly for most of the time as they stand still queueing? Roundabouts were introduced to - reduce - this phenomenon, not to increase it.
You will say: "yeah, but there are bikes too!", to which I will answer: yes, yes of course. But this is a roundabout that only works for - bicycles - while being appaling and punishing for cars (and buses...).
The Netherlands offer very interesting solutions for bike mobility, but they are by no means perfect, skewed as they are towards the bicycles. It must be said, which is something not many people like to do. Too many dreams of easy solutions to break.
The best solutions I've seen are almost always composed by separated traffic flows for both type of vehicles. Which most of the time is quite a task, in our cities
@@SirEdwardeight wow didn't expect to hear a full life story. But by all means yeah there are traffic jams but they are at the highway. The round a bouts almost never have any heavy trafic. The heavy traffic is on the highway. Idk how. And you have to count the bikers and pedestrians with the cars. The volume is wayyyy more than a place where there is only a round a bout for cars
@@blikies A full life story, but a very intersting one, if you read it ;-)
I will quote myself:
You will say: "yeah, but there are bikes too!", to which I will answer: yes, yes of course. But this is a roundabout that only works for - bicycles - while being appaling and punishing for cars (and buses...).
The Netherlands offer very interesting solutions for bike mobility, but they are by no means perfect, skewed as they are towards the bicycles. It must be said, which is something not many people like to do. Too many dreams of easy solutions to break.
The best solutions I've seen are almost always composed by separated traffic flows for both type of vehicles. Which most of the time is quite a task, in our cities
The Dutch are absolute legends when it comes to infrastructure design, also the kindest people I have ever met.
Thank you for the compliments :D
This roundabout is quite dated...
-Check this one th-cam.com/video/Vw4rgK-cFos/w-d-xo.html 🤗
Love from Am*dam...
@@aorta538 That's freaking awesome!
G E K O L O N I S E E R D
Thanks for the compliments!
Everything about this that I find futuristic/utopic:
1. Cars coming from the side giving way to the car in the roundabout. Is this how it works in developed countries? When I give way to the car in the roundabout, the driver looks at me quizzically and the car behind me honks. When I’m in the roundabout and try to use my priority, I sometimes barely avoid having an accident because the car coming from the side doesn’t want to give way.
2. Cars not trying to squeeze in at every opportunity when the traffic ahead of them stops. How can people be this patient? I’ve seen cars try to squeeze in in every sort of situation.
3. The pedestrians are able to use the crosswalk without waiting 2 minutes. I remember countless times where vehicles honked at me while using the crosswalk, and also countless times where I had to run for my life.
4. Cars waiting patiently at the crosswalk. When I give way to a pedestrian at a crosswalk usually what happens is; they sometimes don’t even notice I’m giving way, even if I do a hand gesture, unless I honk at them because they don’t expect anyone to give them way, or, they start crossing the street but almost get run over by the vehicle coming from the other lane, every time I stop at a crosswalk I check my mirror to see if there’s any vehicles speeding down the street, and honk if necessary to warn the pedestrian. Oh, not to mention the car behind me honking at me for stopping almost every time.
5. Starting at 4:21 , a gray car coming from the left side of the screen turns all the way around the roundabout and goes back to where it came from, when it could easily make a u turn without entering the roundabout and wasting time. I know that that car obeyed the rules and did it correctly , but I’ve seen so many cars making u turns at weird places, including cars making u turns before a roundabout like this, I guess obeying the traffic rules is more important to the people in this video than saving 20 seconds of time and gas.
6. The existence of bike lanes. I’ve seen these in games like cities skylines, I’ve never seen them work in real life, I’ve seen some streets with a sign saying “share this lane with bikes” showing a space of 1 m between the car and the bike, but I can’t remember seeing any bikes on these streets at all, it seems like it’s basically suicide to try to use these lanes with a bike, because car drivers aren’t used to these bikes.
7. More bikes than cars. There must be so much less pollution, so much less noise pollution and so much less traffic in a city like this.
8. So many green areas around a junction. to me it just seems like a missed opportunity to build more buildings, but this is the way it should be, makes everything look so much cleaner, and better for the environment as well.
Overall, what makes this video seem so futuristic/utopic in my opinion, is not necessarily the roundabout itself, but rather the behavior of the people using it.
Seeing something like this makes me proud to be Dutch. I pay a lot of tax but this is one of the things I get in return.
Providing for bicycles is cheaper than for cars, we're saving money by having more people cycle, also in terms of healthcare costs
@@frisianmouve and co2 emissions
But pedestrians have lost a lot in safety. They must give in to cyclists and they have to deal with several of them going into pedestrian reserved area at high speed to cut a corner, putting them in danger.
@@christianbarnay2499 getting hit by a bike > getting hit by a car
@@walterclements7968 You rarely see cars climb the sidewalk and trespass pedestrian reserved area at cruising speed. In this 5 minute video you can see dozens of bikes doing exactly that in the lower left corner. Pedestrians are not safe anymore in their own "protected" territory.
I prefer to have an area where I'm safe and need extra caution when crossing other areas than to be at risk at all times.
Saying that a car hit is more violent than a bike hit is only valid for a single hit with the vehicle coming on the front or side of a pedestrian with good health.
A bike is harder than a car. The handlebar of a bike and the body of the biker are in a higher position than the bonnet of a car. So when a bike hits a pedestrian at high speed and the pedestrian didn't see it coming it often results in the pedestrian being shoved to the ground and hitting their head hard on the pavement.
Since the addition of pedestrian impact tests in car crash tests, cars have improved a lot and they are now designed to absorb most of the shock energy when a pedestrian head hits the bonnet.
Also a car is bigger and noisier than a bike so it's easier to spot and avoid for a pedestrian.
When you factor in all aspects of the problem, the bike is much more dangerous to the pedestrian than its smaller size and lower speed let you think.
As a German I am confused as to why we can't manage something like this.
But what I like: the almost 90° meeting of car + bike lanes, cars don't have to look at their rear to look at oncoming traffic, as it is in Germany.
as a german i think this is garbage. defeats purpose of a roundabout if you have to constantly check all sides... im prinzip sind es mehrere verschachtelte "vorfahrt gewären" strassen...
@@meggi8048 The purpose is a good throughput for everybody. I use this roundabout as a cyclist and as a car driver, and it never takes me more than 20 seconds to cross it. Every time when I am at a traffic light I wonder: warum gibt es hier kein roundabout, um Gottes willen!
@@Johsebthur imagine it wouldnt take you more than 3 seconds like any normal roundabout.
@@meggi8048 20 seconds during rush hour, 10 seconds otherwise. With traffic lights minutes. Without anything deaths. If you do every roundabout in 3 seconds, then apparantly where you live everybody is in cars.
@@Johsebthur why are you defending this thing soo much? are you the architect?
Why does it look so satisfying? I'm Dutch, driven on many roundabouts and it's so normal, but the flow it has is so beautiful.
Waarom zit ik naar een video van een rotonde te kijken?
Cuz we're all just floatin' around accidental-like, man!
Waarom vraagt U dat ?
@@Leo-pq1nb Omdat ik graag vragen stel
Maar echt 😂, dat andere landen dit ook speciaal vinden
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That is a beautiful roundabout. Everybody being attentive and courteous. Very nice.
Signed, envious American.
One shudders to think what angry Texan gun-huggers in their FORD F150s would do to those cyclists. LOL !
People are simply following the rules. In an accident between unequal participants, the blame automatically goes to the strongest. So a car that hits a bike or pedestrian will always lose and be convicted (and rightly so). This knowledge keeps people "courteous".
True courtesy would be if one of the lone cyclists yielded to unblock the cars trying to exit. They don't have to, of course.
Nice.
Very friendly for pedestrians.
I agree, the pedestrian part is the most interesting.
Except @1:23 in the down left corner, that infuriates me
@Jakub S its in my experience quit rare that a biker gets hit on a roundabout
@Jakub S The roundabout makes the cars slow down so even when there is about to be an accident (which almost never happens because the rules are pretty clear) the car comes to a stop real fast. Accidents are super rare here.
@@rick0201 can confirm, I've never been hit by a car on a roundabout nor have I seen anyone being hit on one
Look at how crisp that looks! So organized man! And the longest waiting time I've seen was perhaps that bus or truck, but nothing serious!
And how patient that truck was! I was so incredibly impressed!
And the pedestrian even gave priority to the truck. How nice.
But it works because the cyclists did actually give way as well
A bus saw a gap and went through and you saw a cyclist anticipate it a slow down
Here in the U.K. cyclists should have carried on a braked hard then moaned at the bus because they “have right of way”
This is the whole point, people. The driver or cyclist is not "the other". It's just you on an other ocassion. That creates a lot of understanding. There's something uplifting about being considerate in traffic, and it works.
Its like an orkestra where all the instruments play a song in harmony. All road users playing in harmony with one another. Working together, anticipating each others moves, giving way to each other etc.
The result: more people cycle as it obviously gets you places quicker than driving.
Take note everyone else.
in a predominantly flat country that may work, elsewhere no.
@@sideshow101101 but with a lot of wind and rain.
@@davidmartineztorres8731 true, but not the only country with lots of wind and rain. I don't think anywhere else is comparatively flat?
@@DjokovicIsOurLordAndSaviour eletric bikes exist, getting cheaper year by year (and already are orders of magnitude cheaper than a car). They make inclines a non-issue - there are tons of cyclists in San Francisco and it doesn't get more hilly than that.
@@BartoszMisiak Fair point. They are still comparatively expensive now but you're right before long will probably be very affordable.
3:30 a kind walking man
Wouldn't it be fun to see a similar video from a comparable crossing from the UK? From what I've seen there's a total war between cars and bicycles.
Just look up 'Bedford turbo roundabout and see how shit we do it, funded by cycling money it basically pushed people on bikes off the road so that motorists could go faster and made getting through a junction/roundabout less safe and more convoluted. The CTC (now CUK( sustrans and other groups backed this shite. Absolute disgrace
cycling in the UK is horrendous
They just built a dutch style roundabout in cambridge. It's not bi-directional like in this video but a more normal one. th-cam.com/video/HUrZ3jmgXgs/w-d-xo.html
UK will never master dutch streets and roads for a very long time
There would be a war in The Netherlands also if we didn’t have a law that protects bicyclists and pedestrians against motor vehicle drivers. A driver is automatically guilty and liable in case of a collision or accident, unless he can prove otherwise. If the driver can prove otherwise, his guilt and liability will be reduced to a minimum of 50%. So a driver is always guilty and liable between 50 and 100%. That’s a good incentive for drivers to give way to bicyclists and to be careful approching crossings or roundabouts where bicyclists are involved. I believe Americans have the same kind of law when a schoolbus is stopping along the road to let children get in or out. It is prohibited for drivers to overtake the schoolbus, because it is dangerous and to protect the vulnerable. And a reason, often mentioned, is that most car drivers in The Netherlands also own a bike which they use (frequently). So everyone wants to be safe on a bicycle.
The illustration of the word Civilization
I bet the structure to the bottomleft is the entrance to a highschool
@@frankvancaspel8843 wow! i thought i recognised this from the thumbnail... i was an Erasmus student there in 2016/17 - maybe i’m one of the cyclists causing traffic violations in the video
@@frankvancaspel8843 damn i really wanted that to be the Roundabout University
Imagine if all those cyclists would've had to go by car, and what problems that would cause
Yeah this is often forgotten by foreigners, our government doesn't support cycling infrastructure like it does because they are goody 2 shoes and like cycling. We simply have such a population density that we do not really have a choice. It's born out of this necessity.
then you get america
Whats wrong with america ? 🥺
@@edwinzuniga1987 you know, everything this week from that call to the capitol siege.
And the bus passengers as well
It great that you have such a good cycling infrastructure over there. We could benefit with a fraction of this in the UK.
If this was America, the roundabout would have been an intersection with traffic lights and there would be no cycling lane so everyone you saw on a bicycle in this video would have to take the car. Imagine how many cars that would be and how long you would have to wait at the traffic lights.
99% of places in America don't have the population density to make this possible.
I’m in America and I am an avid cyclist. There there is little cycling infrastructure here and I applaud what can be done. However, this only works because there is a tiny amount of car traffic at this intersection. If there are enough bicycles, the roundabout is shut down. If you had a reasonable amount of road traffic, this would not work. I would love to see some solutions that are safe and efficient for both cars and bicycles.
@@derekkuhl There is a tiny amount of car traffic because it's bike friendly which results in less cars... Get it now?
@@derekkuhl I've been in many situations in wich cyclists gave way to a few cars when they started clogging. No guaranties, but these systems seem to somehow stimulate some considerate behaviour on all sides. Half the trick is done by eye contact, some unwritten rules and a bit of decency.
@@MysteryOfMovies No I don’t get it. The point of the intersection design is to accommodate both types of traffic. This only accommodates one. That makes design easier. Your comment says we do not need to accommodate cars because bicycles are better. That is stupid. I am interested in design that will accommodate both types of traffic safely and efficiently. That would be good design.
Only thing missing is a tramway through the middle.
There no trams in Nijmegen. 🤗
This is what a civilized country looks like
Well, in every country we got something to complain but I think your true ;)
Noting truer has ever been said in the comment section.
I love the fact that that bi-direction on the right side is clearly put in to reduce the bicycle traffic on the left one-direction side. But the majority of the bicycle-commuters still go along that left side.
Also there are more people going against the direction on the left side, then that there are using the second direction of the bi-direction right sight. lol
When I found a job closer to home I decided to give cycling to work a go, not knowing if it was something I'd keep up.
I don't think I'd ever go back to commuting by car; it was something of a revelation to me. Now I try to go everywhere by bike when I can.
I just want to say thank you for this excellent video - it is hugely useful in explaining the lesser-known design features that make protected cycle roundabouts so effective, and so safe.
I’m truly fascinated by roundabouts thank you so much this is exactly the kind of video I was looking for
A chronic car driver would probably look at this and say that barely any cars get through, but look how many people get through. Society consists of people, not cars, I think some people forget that when it comes to road and city design
We hebben het gwn goed voor elkaar in Nederland. Dit is weer zo’n puntje :)
Dwaas
@@ericnijkamp7926 Kaas
This is the best advertisement for the Netherlands better than coffee shops and red light districts. Thanks for showing how it should be done .
Fascinating. It actually seems to work better for ALL users, including pedestrians and vehicles, compared to normal roundabouts. Looks like even drivers coming off a lesser road get more chances here, as the dominant vehicle flow is broken by cyclists. In the UK road builders seem to love roundabouts, but in my experience they more often clog the flow of traffic than smooth it. This is undoubtedly more complicated, with vehicle drivers having to look both ways on the initial approach but look only one way on the second, then look both ways on exit, but Dutch drivers have clearly adapted to that.
"This is undoubtedly more complicated"
It's not so much complicated as it forces you to pay attention. Traffic lights don't, they just reinforce the "red stop, green go" mindless mantra that works okay-ish for most situations. Roundabouts don't have that, so instead of looking at lights, you look for traffic.
Fun fact, Dutch roads are littered with stuff that forces drivers to pay attention. By design. Whether it's chicanes, narrow streets or speed bumps in residential streets or roundabouts like this, they're designed to force the car driver to slow down, pay attention and drive carefully. It's almost impossible to drive otherwise in these places.
here in spain we usually have roundabouts with a couple of lanes and traffic lights. it is like a normal intersection but with the roundabout in the centre and more traffic lights inside. it works fine because cars are dominant. you have bike lanes but outside the roundabout, you cross outside like a normal pedestrian in a normal intersection. fortunately, i am able to go to university parallel to a river in electric skateboard, so i can go over bike lane and very few traffic lights. very happy because i used to go in car, but i lost it, to be able to use it every day, and now im very happy with the fuel saving. the skateboard paid itself in around a year, and now everything is savings
I don't know how I've ended up here but I love it
Thanks, algorithm. I didn't know I needed this, but you did.
Absolute perfection !
Wow, Cities: Skylines got some updated graphics huh?
Just kidding lol 😄
where are the people who walk straight trough cars and other objects?
@@MakerTim in another universe. Truly next level
@Biffa would be proud of this.
Omg...brilliant. If this was in USA they would need an ambulance on site 24/7.
Amazing. Wish we saw more of this in America. Look at all those bikes!
it's just one of thousands of roundabouts in the Netherlands
All the bikes is a good thing, but all the bikes crossing in front of traffic is not - people would get mowed down here in the US . The bicycle traffic needs to flow WITH the roundabout, not across it.
Because stopping on an exit from a traffic circle gets your license plate photographed with a $75 fine in the mail. Don't stop in a traffic circle under any circumstances. In Holland it's acceptable by law to stop in the circle because vehicle traffic is light..
Nope, working as intended. Who says the car has priority on this roundabout?
Secondly... you have to be insane to mow down a bicycle in the netherlands since the car driver is financially responsible for the bicycle for at least 50% regardless of the type of accident.
@@abboberg You ever seen a smart roundabout in real life ? It works perfect when you 'read' the road, who has priority is written on the road with those triangles (what we call "shark teeths") If the triangles are pointing to you, you don't have priority. (but I guess you use the system with triangles also in the US ?)
This is perfect, the team who designed and engineered this should be awarded with own statue in the roundabout island!
Thanks for the video! 💕Greetings from Sarajevo💕
Ah, so this is what civilization looks like.
Yess we need this in the UK and separate cycling lanes everywhere...
Yeah you really should, you clearly have shown the interest in it but the politicians remain completely oblivious. Very sad.
I wish we had this in the major US cities. I also understand that most of the US is rural by land mass and it would not work there, but it would be nice to see in NYC, San Diego, DFW-Arlington-Denton, LA, Austin, San Antonio, Houston, Chicago, D.C, etc.
@@wreckingopossum most cities, even rural, would profit from bike and pedestrian infrastructure. I noticed people in the US would walk ridiculously small distances simply because there was no nice walkway.
@@MaltAndPepper Rural cities in America vs the Netherlands do not compare
Rural American cities may be 20 miles or more from where commuters work, the nearest grocery store, farmers market etc.
Additionally the American midwest is one of the coldest places on earth with temperatures sometimes reaching as low as -50°F, considered the heartland of America, many rural cities are here. The American south may experience summer temperatures of up to 120°F in places like Death Valley. (Record temperatures rounded to nearest 10s place)
@@wreckingopossum I understand but still find it ridiculous you often can't even walk between two stores that are next to each other
This look so damn wholesome! The red roads are really clever, can’t miss it
Not a single cyclist was harmed during the filming of this video*
Roundabouts in the Netherlands are awesome for cyclists. I love them
Because it's fake shit !
But after the camera stopped...
But several of them cut the corner and almost hit pedestrians at high speed in the bottom left section of the image. They have a large safe space that has been specifically designed with a wide curve to ensure they would safely cross pedestrians at a right angle for maximum visibility. But they don't respect it. And since they have priority on all other traffic they come at high speed at this point.
This is a nice infrastructure but it gives too much to the cyclists. Pedestrians should still have the top level of priority because they are the only road users with absolutely zero protection.
@@ericnijkamp7926 ITS REVERSED haha
It all was working so well, so first 2 minutes I was thinking that it is just a simulation lol
At the Erasmusgebouw in Nijmegen, for anyone wondering.
Dankje! Ik vroeg het me al af :)
I studied at Radboud University in Nijmegen (about 1.5 hours from Amsterdam). The main intersection at the University looks a lot like this. Ah, it brought back such wonderful memories. I only rode a bicycle (and of course used busses and trains). I once rented a car but found that it was actually easier to get around with my bike!
Frank van Caspel, de uploader van deze video bevestigde in één van de comments dat het de zelfde rotonde is. De rotonde mondt uit op fietsenstalling van de Radboud universiteit. Hoop dat dat extra nostalgie met zich meebrengt. (:
Incredibly generous too - 2x bi-directional cycle lanes down the road at the bottom
Apparently the initial plan was a bike overpass ... abandoned when fifty Dutch cyclist fainted at the mere though of having to ride up a hill!
This happen in a educated country, never in Italy
Be thankfull are lots of scooters in your country,in mine,people prefer to be stuck in trafic than riding a scooter. Its getting better but still,we are 50years back.
This is so cool!
bicycle having priority over cars is very common here in NL, usually human density gets more priority when designing streets, more bike traffic means more people have to flow past faster, on bus routes, busses will have more priority etc. correct me if im wrong but thats what i have learnt "back in the day :)"
Every roundabout in the Netherlands has a bikelane, as you can see a roundabout like this can move traffic way quicker than a junction with traffic lights :)
It wasn’t easy for me to have my driving license here. Finally I have succeeded im my 4th time.
Veel veilige kilometers !
@@tinyme2139 Bedankt😊
The dutch road system is pretty complicated indeed. Drive safe
Congrats! De meeste mensen slagen hier niet de eerste keer, het is met opzet moeilijk, voor de veiligheid :)
Exam in a big city like Utrecht?
Those examinations really know the tough spots there!
Wow, I drive and cycle in the UK, it would take a lot of convincing for me to trust drivers to be this vigilant while on my bike. Nice system
Its wonderful that in netherlands, they have very systematically planned bicycle lanes just for bicycles alone
This design is based on the rules of the roads and behavior and most of all the mindset..
If other countries want to adopt our solution that means years of inducing the mindset of every road user, pedestrians, cyclists and especially drivers.
And keep in improving the infrastructure..
That is so true. The need for infrastructure gets a lot of attention, but more cooperative mindsets is also absolutely crucial. At the moment in Sydney I feel like a not insignificant proportion of people driving cars absolutely hate people riding bikes. And some people riding bikes very impatient with pedestrians. We really need more understanding between everyone.
@@yellowgerbie As i understood that Australia is trying to become cycling friendly by building more cycling lanes separated away from cars to encourage cycling.
I don't know if any of this is true in Sydney?.
If so then Sydney can build further on the first foundation of the infrastructure and improve further as much as possible for the best safety as possible.
Here in The Netherlands hopefully after a few more years we'll have smart roads with heating systems to prevent sliding.
And there are experiments on plastic roads that are modular.
We already have smart censor detection systems for intersections so cyclists and pedestrians and even drivers don't have to stop, depending on how busy the intersection is.
So a lot of high tech innovations are happening in The Netherlands because of the safe cycling and improvements going on..
Harmony in motion. I love it.
Excellent vid by the legendary Frank "Caspy" van Caspel
This is so beautiful why can't I have this😢
The green truck appearing on the left at 2:30, stays a whole 1:30 min since arrival until leaving the roundabout...
Imagine if every people on a bicycle would be driving...all of them would wait much more at every junction. The traffic would be blocked like in any other city not bicycle friendly.
Yea this setup is pretty bad for drivers... It wouldn't work at all in an even slightly busy rush hour area here in the States.
In busier intersections the bike lanes usually go over or under the roundabouts, or we have traffic lights for the cyclists!
Oh and cars might get 2 or more lanes as it gets busier too! Look up a 'turbotonde' if you're curious 😊
@@OHMYLICIOUS that makes sense! thx for the hint
I used to in better times travel to the Netherlands from Britain for the big parties and have always been disappointed and impressed at how much better everything seems.
They tried it in Cambridge it was closed within hours, it would be interesting to see on a busy junction in a uk city
There's a similar one in Bremen, Germany but it has an tram track through the middle. I never liked driving that one.
This would be a complete cluster F in New Jersey. The whole inner roundabout would be gridlocked in 30 seconds.
Drowking . Then the would have to change priority to the cars, or put up traffic lights.
That's the whole idea behind it.
If you give priority to bicycles people tend to prefer the bicycle.
Czar Zenana . Yeah, you are right. 3 am commenting is never good.
It depends on where you put it, you certainly need common sense. These roundabouts are highly efficient though, even for cars even if it doesn't look like it. Far more efficient than traffic lights. Only with 2 or more lanes of traffic you need to think other solutions. In those cases we go with tunnels or bycicle bridges. That or change the city roads that it no longer a main artery for cars or divert cyclist to non artery roads perhaps. Enough options exist, but to just say it would not work is silly.
Also keep in mind that prioritizing bicycle traffic means that more people will get faster from A to B by bicycle than by car, hence you will see less car traffic.
There’s space for everyone 😭😭😭
Once again, thank you TH-cam for this Video. I just don't know why I'm seeing this
Yes, this is quite normal. I think we've had this for about 30-35 years with minor adjustments here and there over the years
try to imagine what this crossing would like if every bike was a car instead. probably permanently congested or there'd need to be double road lanes that take up more space than the bike lanes.
Holy shit this is at my university! Radboud Nijmegen!
This is nice i like this
"The cosmic ballet goes on."
I swear the Netherlands is like a martian colony, i can't imagine this things being real
Yes dude haha! Always when I'm in the Netherlands I feel like I'm in a Simulation
idk what's so futuristic about it
Netherlands is not cool to live, it's a small country and there are so many rules.
Can't go out and be alone with your thoughts anywhere, there's always people around or a car nearby.
@@DamienAlexander Then you shouldn't live in a city
It's real. But it's one of the nicest ones we have: for part of the rotonde you've got two opposing bike lanes, usually that is not the case.
Interesting how even though the cyclists can go either direction, they almost all choose to go the same direction as the cars.
Its a lot safer that way and the Netherlands doesnt have alot of roundabouts where you can go in 2 directions. The cars will always check for bikers on their right sight, not always their left side.
@@Memeshollanda depends on from what side of the roundabout you come
This two-way thing is kind of experimental. I don't think it will last. Doesn't make sense.
I think the 2-way bicycle path along the roundabout was constructhed that way because of the bicycle paths connecting to the roundabout. Only the top left path is a 1-way path, all the others are 2-way paths.
It feels more natural to go the same way around as cars.
All the "gears" of this roundabout seem to mesh perfectly, with almost no buildup of traffic, or bikes, or pedestrians. For anyone familiar with the Route 2 Circle (Roundabout) in Concord, Massachusetts, this is Heaven indeed. Forget about adding bikes or pedestrians - that would result in massive carnage!
This is just so amazing. So good so many people are using their bike. In other countries the car would have been the most important. It is dreadful to think of in a way.
Most goverments are not interested in bikelanes/paths or other bike infra.
No oil, no profit, no option...
@@aorta538 Money rules, even with bikes !! Every Euro spent on bike infrastructure yields a societal benefit of €6 ! It is the most profitable infrastructure spend a government can make. Vehicle infrastructure is just costly, to build and to maintain ! And it requires extra investments/cost in allocating parking (garages) as well.
In NL migrant/minorities (esp. males : car=status) cycle less than white dutch. This is a matter of concern for the Rotterdam region, that if a future generation of minorities will keep using the car , it might require more costs on roads..
Actually this makes me really frustrated 🤣
I LIVE IN HUNGARY NOW GOOGLE WONT EVEN GIVE A ROUTE FOR ABICICLE
You can go anywhere by bike, that is equally dangerous and forbidden.
I would like to see this arrangement implemented on the Magic Roundabout Hemel Hempstead
Yes!
The Dutch experience is a must to replicate
Fantastich toch? ;)
If you’re Dutch you should feel extra patriotic about stuff like this. Infrastructure is so incredibly important to ones quality of life
Relaxing 😎
I could have a live stream of this as my wallpaper... what bliss for cyclists
Mannn... crossing roads in Amsterdam is like Crossy Road
They've built one of these in Cambridge, UK.
Didn't it cause a lot of confusion when it first opened?
That one is not too bad, you should see the sorry excuse for a "Dutch" roundabout in Paris: th-cam.com/video/fGgSEUxJp2g/w-d-xo.html
Yes but cyclists are too few to utilise it.
Wow!!! great!!!!
I like how the street planners/maintenance teams saw sense to not allow the greenery to grow high to aid visibility from all angles.
Americans: confused oonga boonga
0:30 a bus giving up the priority to bikes, first time I see that
It has to....
The bikes have right off way because of the triangles before the zebra crossing (they're called 'haaientanden' or 'Shark's teeth')
@@arnoldwardenaar127 lol
@@arnoldwardenaar127 if those are shark teeth, I want to see the shark
@@MrEscen that's what you get when you ignore them.... :P
look at how patient and civilized that truck is from 2:30 on!
The simple reason is that the trucker could get banned from driving for several years if he gets involved in an accident with a bicyclist or pedestrian. According to Dutch law he would always be liable and guilty, no matter who would be at fault.
There would be a death if this was in Australia. Good work Holland!
Brian Fenwick. The secret is, in the case of an accident, the cyclist is always right. Ensures the motor traffic behaves itself. Brian Fenwick, Nederland.
Dash cams are needed. Because cyclists don't yield or follow traffic rules. Who wants to be liable because someone on a bike is not a considerate rider?
Sunhawk Such nonsense. Maybe in a country with no bike infrastructure and where they have to drive the kids to school in their V8’s... Most of the people you see are considerate riders and every car driver here owns at least 1 bike and uses it regularly. So they know how to behave riding a bike as well as a car. Except Amsterdam maybe cause all tourists keep falling of their rented bikes :-)
@@sl600rt Here in The Netherlands you need a 'driver's license' for a motorized vehicle. For the bike you don't. So long story short; the judge says ''You got more responsibility! you know the rules cause you got the license, he 'doesn't' '' (even though he might have but didn't need it for the bike) and also is less protected than you in a car. And even though the dashcam might show that the cyclist is wrong, still court will judge you for shortseeing a situation. And you are f'd as driver. But then again if you know this as a cyclist... do you really wanna play chicken with a truck?
@@JustMe-ul5oz so you're. telling me. That if some cyclist sprinting down a street and concealed behind other vehicles. Runs the light/stop sign and crashes into my car. I would still be at fault. Even though I have proof in was doing nothing wrong. All because I should have thought about the possibility of a jackass.
@@sl600rt Even though it its really stupid but yup
Good thing there isn't much motorized traffic or that would end in gridlock.
I'm not quite sure whether the second (inner) lane of the bicycle part of the roundabout is meant for the other direction, or just for passing - both cases are a bit strange, looking at the connection to the other paths, and that this is only on one half of the roundabout. Unfortunately this was filmed at a time where there were not many bicycles going this way.
The left half of the roundabout is just for cyclists counter clockwise. The right half is bi-directional. Hence the stripe line in the middle.
"School time", the most busiest and potentially dangerous part of a Dutch day.
Erasmusgebouw, er gingen vast wat colleges beginnen