Considering nobody else is uploading what it actually looks like on a Digibox, here you go. Also interesting that parts of the Red Button now cease to function.
About time we got rid of SD and made 1080p the new SD. No one complains we can't get 405 line black and white transmissions any more. The arc of progress carries on.
@@fungo6631 this would also affect Freesat as Sky and Freesat use the same satellite for the BBC. Though again as was said, this only affects really old equipment, even in 2012 when the switchover finished, there were HD satellite broadcasts running already.
Here in the US DirecTV still supports SD but those on HD subscriptions, in the event of the satellite can't make a connection, which happens quite frequently because of bad weather. (usually just a bad thunderstorm) will get a popup on the TV that says "Poor connection - would you like to switch to Standard Definition" and there's an OK and NO.
That’s because the SD would probably be on a separate transponder, stroke of genius on one hand but confusing on another. Thanks for sharing this information with us.
That sounds correct. Here in Canada I find that on my Bell Satellite TV service in bad weather the HD Channels don’t come in while SD comes in fine yet Bell is trying to get rid of SD Services
@@CableCable9000 I've seen what Bell likes to do and I don't like that company. They consistently shut down repeaters in Canada and now they're trying to get rid of SD satellite.
Videotron with Illico still has SD channels but i think everything is in MPEG4 now, so the old HD DVR's from before the Cisco days aren't compatible anymore. And then there's Helix which is all HD but the amount of Helix boxes i see for sale tells me that using Xfinity as the basis for the new service was not a good idea.
The original Sky Digibox as a hardware and receiver platform are over thirty years old and widely incompatible with the majority of FTA and FTV broadcasts in the countries where they were once used. It's slightly miraculous Sky even broadcast a compatible EPG for them, and it's time for them to go away. For those still with original Sky Digibox receivers, there's also a good chance they'll start to fail soon if they've not already. They were never designed to operate for so long, and there were so many bad batches of components used in the late 90s, plus the units have now passed their end of designed lifespan for parts like caps, driver ICs and resistors. Sky haven't supported them for many years.
As someone who has used a digibox for some time, this is hard to see without feeling a little upset. At least the other channels are available for the time being.
sky digibox was my childhood, even when we got sky back via nowtv in around 2017, we still used the digibox for freeview tv up until around 2019. even though I threw my digibox out like 5 years ago now im still kinda gutted
I used to use a Sky+ box as a TV in my own room to give my CRT TV some other use than just to play game consoles and VHS tapes. And I used a Sky+ box rather than a Sky+HD or SkyQ box because of the nostalgic look and feel. However the effects of Storm Arwin blew the plug off the satellite dish. I was gonna find a way to plug it back in but now that I know that the BBC SD channels are no longer in service, it would be useless. Plus I don't really watch TV 🤣
I brought out my grans old digibox just to watch that and i thought "why just why" and i thought they should of given CBeebies and CBBC a more kid freindly "this service has now closed" screen cause if i saw that on my tv randomly as a 4 year old i would start crying-
Sky looks a lot like Foxtel Digital in Australia... Foxtel now forces everyone to either use a highly evolved but slightly nerfed iQ4 or streaming services Go or Binge. Also Stephen Fry does Jeopardy! ? He is doing it in Australia
@@RyanGonTV Foxtel is owned by News Corporation, who oddly still owns Fox in Australia, and Telstra, Sky is owned by Comcast and used to be part of but not owned by the News Corp group of companies until it was taken private by a failed bidding war with News Corp
But there's quite probably just as many people who will have an old second receiver or something in a camper van, boat or holiday home, who are *not* old or technophobes without a smartphone. Heck, my dad had a second SD digibox on spare outputs from his satellite dish for a long time which was well past its expiry date. The BBC message offered a spoken version, easy to understand messaging, prompts on screen for many months prior, a blanket awareness campaign and information sent to many newspapers and media outlets who republished the info. You can also see there's a phone number and two web sites to consult. The BBC directly ran a free upgrade scheme for those eligible: the "HD Satellite upgrade" programme ran for over a year prior to SD shutdown. It offered a voucher to purchase an HD capable receiver online, or an engineer home visit who would also supply and install the equipment. I think in this case the BBC went above and beyond their public service obligations. It's not unreasonable to expect viewers nowadays to have a TV and receiver capable of viewing HD channels, HD as a generally available broadcast format has been around since 2006. Freeview and satellite receivers sold since the early 2010s offered this functionality, even if the viewer needed them to downscale their output to SD for their TV. This is still possible and perfectly feasible. The cost and technological burden of running so many SD services for the very small number of viewers had become too prohibitive. It was also a barrier to further upgrades and modernisation to the whole broadcasting chain, which provided numerous cost savings and quality improvements. Getting angry about the BBC not operating an SD service is to me analogous to getting angry with a petrol station for no longer retailing leaded petrol. Technology progresses and at some point one must move with the times a little.
I wrote a long comment with technical info but it's disappeared. I really don't think this is the issue you purport it to be, and the BBC offered significant support to assist users in modernising their satellite receivers, including extra support for vulnerable, elderly or impaired viewers, including free replacement hardware.
This one messed with my parents setup like crazy, they had to use some other box and they lost a few channels switching over. The funny part is, they're still using scart cables so they don't get the supposed benefits, not that they'd care (not that I care actually now that I think of it)
@@RyanGonTV don't forget, money they were burning keeping the SD services going can now be used to upgrade and improve the HD services and be put towards maintenance of more important kit. It's our licence fees that fund it, so I'd rather they maintain current technology instead of try to keep ancient SD transmission going for a few thousand viewers at most.
@@RyanGonTVpictures quality,sound quality. 4k tv is enough for any house unless you live in a mansion then you might need 8k. Only other places 8k tv would be useful is cinemas & tv screens in at stadiums. Possibly a school hall if room is big enough. No where else really need 8k
@@RyanGonTV - They are cheap - Only broadcast SD channels - They don't have that much functions (except for the odd Gamestar) - Don't playback the channel by miniscreen on EPG screens (although we do get good EPG music) - etc.
I can't believe they are forcing people to upgrade, disgusting that this could be an old age pensioner, losing their fav TV shows, who can't afford to upgrade
They’re probably going to get a used HD set top box off eBay, but they probably dunno that those boxes are sky’s property so that means they’re stolen, and also the decoding card from the old digibox needs to be paired with the new one and activated, but I doubt sky will gonna do that. I wish sky did a promotion to upgrade to a HD box or a Q for a very low price, maybe even for free but I doubt that there are any users with the old digiboxes as many of them replaced ‘em with HD or a Q box..🧐
@@RyanGonTV I actually meant those who have a subscription but with an older non-HD box. I dunno if there are still any of them as I ain’t from the UK nor I’m living there. Probably there are, but mostly elderly folks with old fashioned CRTs.
Now that I think about it… what’s the point of Set top boxes when your regular tv can connect through a satellite connection and therefore watch live TV
Because not all TV's can do that. Not all TV's have the tuners for that. The reason set top boxes exist is because they have tuners for the satellite TV your tv doesn't. That's also to stop piracy.
@@BackupWhenTH-camIsntWorking Especially in 1998 when this service launched. There was no other way to receive Sky Digital on the existing analogue TVs.
@@BackupWhenTH-camIsntWorking Oh that makes a lot of sense now... on regards to that, why do tuners in tvs exist when thats the point of set-top boxes?
@@SadLivingPerson in the 1990s and even into the 2000s, most people in the UK were receiving analogue channels in the form of BBC 1, BBC 2, ITV, C4 and if lucky C5 on CRT tellies and even early LED tellies which didn't have built in digital decoders, then slowly people realised that a set top box will be needed in order to carry on watching the traditional terrestrial channels via digital transmission. The analogue signal was finally totally switched off in 2013 and by that point everyone were owning set top boxes connected to "traditional" non-smart tellies and it is only in the last 10 years pretty much everyone owned digital freeview enabled tellies with apps for streaming content eventually negated the need of a set top box altogether.
@@RyanGonTV Do it with Handbrake, and use Bob deinterlacing. Handbrake does pretty good job at deinterlacing, and since recently it even allows upscaling.
Sky digiboxes could only receive and decode MPEG-2 encoded channels broadcast in a digital multiplex, although many were originally (1998) broadcast at 625 line SD resolution. They pointed at 28.2°E Astra 2 constellation which offered no analogue services, unlike the old 19.2° satellites. The Digibox was incapable of tuning or displaying analogue satellite broadcasts.
About time we got rid of SD and made 1080p the new SD. No one complains we can't get 405 line black and white transmissions any more. The arc of progress carries on.
The annoying thing is that many stations are still in SD! just moved to MPEG 4 DVB-S2 to cram in more.... disappointing for the hassle it's caused!
*How to make a "public" broadcaster inaccessible to the public*
Step 1:
Well said
Well if this was always applied then BBC with still be broadcasting in 405 line television
Only for SD boxes which are old.
And since this is Sky, chances are that the company itself would replace the receiver.
@@fungo6631 this would also affect Freesat as Sky and Freesat use the same satellite for the BBC. Though again as was said, this only affects really old equipment, even in 2012 when the switchover finished, there were HD satellite broadcasts running already.
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when most channels are in 4K (which would never happen lmao), this is gonna play on the HD feed in a few years 😭🙏
Bro: i’ll be back
Bro after disappearing:
Unrelated but aside from not being able to watch BBC this video is so nostalgic 😭😭😭
Yeah it is - Sky was my childhood XD
ikr, my family had a digibox from when I was born all the way up until 2019!
And they’ll still try to make you pay a TV License for the privilege of not being able to watch the BBC
kinda ironic, to say the least-
~ thebelovedmoon 🌙
I Have A TV Licence But I Have The Same Problem On Sky HD+
Rest in peace classic sky digibox 😢
BBC was telling us to switch to digital but a part of digital is now closed
They're a bunch of loonies.
Here in the US DirecTV still supports SD but those on HD subscriptions, in the event of the satellite can't make a connection, which happens quite frequently because of bad weather. (usually just a bad thunderstorm) will get a popup on the TV that says "Poor connection - would you like to switch to Standard Definition" and there's an OK and NO.
That’s because the SD would probably be on a separate transponder, stroke of genius on one hand but confusing on another. Thanks for sharing this information with us.
That sounds correct. Here in Canada I find that on my Bell Satellite TV service in bad weather the HD Channels don’t come in while SD comes in fine yet Bell is trying to get rid of SD Services
@@CableCable9000 I've seen what Bell likes to do and I don't like that company. They consistently shut down repeaters in Canada and now they're trying to get rid of SD satellite.
My Dish network receiver does the same thing, but it automatically switches to the SD feed with a message
Videotron with Illico still has SD channels but i think everything is in MPEG4 now, so the old HD DVR's from before the Cisco days aren't compatible anymore.
And then there's Helix which is all HD but the amount of Helix boxes i see for sale tells me that using Xfinity as the basis for the new service was not a good idea.
There goes the usability of Digiboxes
Nah u wrong they just geting the hd now
The original Sky Digibox as a hardware and receiver platform are over thirty years old and widely incompatible with the majority of FTA and FTV broadcasts in the countries where they were once used. It's slightly miraculous Sky even broadcast a compatible EPG for them, and it's time for them to go away.
For those still with original Sky Digibox receivers, there's also a good chance they'll start to fail soon if they've not already. They were never designed to operate for so long, and there were so many bad batches of components used in the late 90s, plus the units have now passed their end of designed lifespan for parts like caps, driver ICs and resistors. Sky haven't supported them for many years.
@@ChristopherWoods I would have expected them to have all been retired from service by now. I would have expected them to have all been deactivated
Damn they added that surreal music back. They had it back in 2016 when CBBC changed its logo! Very good recording!
They've had that music as a bed since the 90s from what I can remember!
Link to the music?
Good thing we didn't resort to this when we converted to Digital TV over Cable & Satellite TV.
As someone who has used a digibox for some time, this is hard to see without feeling a little upset. At least the other channels are available for the time being.
Well said, Brought a tear to my eye.
ITV shut down ad the day after bbc did
Channel 4 and 5 still knocking about? I know the Sky channels are@@kensiso1234
sky digibox was my childhood, even when we got sky back via nowtv in around 2017, we still used the digibox for freeview tv up until around 2019. even though I threw my digibox out like 5 years ago now im still kinda gutted
I haven’t seen this UI in so long, what a nostalgia hit
I used to use a Sky+ box as a TV in my own room to give my CRT TV some other use than just to play game consoles and VHS tapes. And I used a Sky+ box rather than a Sky+HD or SkyQ box because of the nostalgic look and feel. However the effects of Storm Arwin blew the plug off the satellite dish. I was gonna find a way to plug it back in but now that I know that the BBC SD channels are no longer in service, it would be useless. Plus I don't really watch TV 🤣
SD*
I brought out my grans old digibox just to watch that and i thought "why just why" and i thought they should of given CBeebies and CBBC a more kid freindly "this service has now closed" screen cause if i saw that on my tv randomly as a 4 year old i would start crying-
Sky looks a lot like Foxtel Digital in Australia... Foxtel now forces everyone to either use a highly evolved but slightly nerfed iQ4 or streaming services Go or Binge.
Also Stephen Fry does Jeopardy! ? He is doing it in Australia
Sky owns Foxtel
@@RyanGonTV Foxtel is owned by News Corporation, who oddly still owns Fox in Australia, and Telstra, Sky is owned by Comcast and used to be part of but not owned by the News Corp group of companies until it was taken private by a failed bidding war with News Corp
@@RyanGonTVwell not really
Telstra(a internet provider over here in Australia) and News Corp owns Foxtel whilst Comcast owns Sky
Most people with SD only boxes don’t have phones and if they do it’s probably from like 9-10 years ago and can’t scan it
Well said
Reminds me of when the analogue TV channels shut down.
I find it sad that these all have to go on my birthday 😢
First BBC SD closing, now Rando is shutting down their HD services for 8k services
So nostalgic this is the sky box menu I remember as a kid
Brings Memories
Love the QR code. People who are SD viewers probably don't have a smartphone.. BBC are so out of touch it's unbelievable.
Well said!
But there's quite probably just as many people who will have an old second receiver or something in a camper van, boat or holiday home, who are *not* old or technophobes without a smartphone. Heck, my dad had a second SD digibox on spare outputs from his satellite dish for a long time which was well past its expiry date.
The BBC message offered a spoken version, easy to understand messaging, prompts on screen for many months prior, a blanket awareness campaign and information sent to many newspapers and media outlets who republished the info. You can also see there's a phone number and two web sites to consult.
The BBC directly ran a free upgrade scheme for those eligible: the "HD Satellite upgrade" programme ran for over a year prior to SD shutdown. It offered a voucher to purchase an HD capable receiver online, or an engineer home visit who would also supply and install the equipment.
I think in this case the BBC went above and beyond their public service obligations. It's not unreasonable to expect viewers nowadays to have a TV and receiver capable of viewing HD channels, HD as a generally available broadcast format has been around since 2006. Freeview and satellite receivers sold since the early 2010s offered this functionality, even if the viewer needed them to downscale their output to SD for their TV. This is still possible and perfectly feasible.
The cost and technological burden of running so many SD services for the very small number of viewers had become too prohibitive. It was also a barrier to further upgrades and modernisation to the whole broadcasting chain, which provided numerous cost savings and quality improvements.
Getting angry about the BBC not operating an SD service is to me analogous to getting angry with a petrol station for no longer retailing leaded petrol. Technology progresses and at some point one must move with the times a little.
That's why they put all relevant information and a URL as well as a phone number on-screen too
I wrote a long comment with technical info but it's disappeared. I really don't think this is the issue you purport it to be, and the BBC offered significant support to assist users in modernising their satellite receivers, including extra support for vulnerable, elderly or impaired viewers, including free replacement hardware.
It's been over 10 years since HD started. At some point, you need to move on and accept that SD is long obsolete.
Does this mean you don't have to pay for TV license since you can't receive BBC? Lol
The TV license is per receiver it doesn't matter if it's actually the BBC you are watching
that menu brings me back
That's a fast digibox! What model are you using?
TU-DSB35 if memory serves correct… I’ve too many to remember!
@@RyanGonTV oh wow so that box dates back to 1999-2000 then, I am impressed it is running the 2005-2009 firmware considering it's such an old model!
@@metalfoxtv For sure - My DS430N is my main box.
My fav:BBC One and two music:So satisfying
Channel 4 logo:Cool blocks
Internet will be our only option in a few years.
The channels have gone completely now from the EPG, it just starts with ITV
Oh no imagine losing the BBC channels? 😅. Hopefully a sign of things to come, so we can all ditch the TVL!!
This one messed with my parents setup like crazy, they had to use some other box and they lost a few channels switching over. The funny part is, they're still using scart cables so they don't get the supposed benefits, not that they'd care (not that I care actually now that I think of it)
The only thing the SD switchover is benefiting is the beeb’s pockets 🤣🤣🤣
@@RyanGonTV don't forget, money they were burning keeping the SD services going can now be used to upgrade and improve the HD services and be put towards maintenance of more important kit. It's our licence fees that fund it, so I'd rather they maintain current technology instead of try to keep ancient SD transmission going for a few thousand viewers at most.
@@ChristopherWoods what is there to improve?
@@RyanGonTVpictures quality,sound quality. 4k tv is enough for any house unless you live in a mansion then you might need 8k. Only other places 8k tv would be useful is cinemas & tv screens in at stadiums. Possibly a school hall if room is big enough. No where else really need 8k
@@NicholasJH96 let’s be honest the average person doesn’t care about picture
but at least who can listen to music without paying the tv licence 😂😂😂
but sometime u have to hear the text to speech voice
Looks to me as they have to cut costs since no one wants to pay for a long outdated tv licence
I Have That Sky Box At My Auntie's!
A poor man's Sky box, I guess.
Please elaborate
@@RyanGonTV
- They are cheap
- Only broadcast SD channels
- They don't have that much functions (except for the odd Gamestar)
- Don't playback the channel by miniscreen on EPG screens (although we do get good EPG music)
- etc.
@@RyanGonTVhe ment it's sad u can't see bbc on it anymorre
Rip bbc channels in sd
Well not on my DVD recorder
Here in the Netherlands we have switched over to hd
Leuk! Good to know
0:19 I had that error when the cbbc closed down and only had hd
Are you getting the correct ITV region as I here somewhere that ITV are also closing some SD channels.
no idea, this is London region ( no card )
Im stupid for thinking this video was made in the mid 2000s until you switched to itv1 and seen the recent itv1 logo!
You aren't alone! Many people have said that 🙂
@@RyanGonTV no it's just because i haven't seen this version of sky in years! I have vivid memories of being at my grandparents house and seeing it!
I can't believe they are forcing people to upgrade, disgusting that this could be an old age pensioner, losing their fav TV shows, who can't afford to upgrade
They’re probably going to get a used HD set top box off eBay, but they probably dunno that those boxes are sky’s property so that means they’re stolen, and also the decoding card from the old digibox needs to be paired with the new one and activated, but I doubt sky will gonna do that. I wish sky did a promotion to upgrade to a HD box or a Q for a very low price, maybe even for free but I doubt that there are any users with the old digiboxes as many of them replaced ‘em with HD or a Q box..🧐
@@FG-gu9rn Not everyone has a Sky subscription
@@RyanGonTV I actually meant those who have a subscription but with an older non-HD box. I dunno if there are still any of them as I ain’t from the UK nor I’m living there. Probably there are, but mostly elderly folks with old fashioned CRTs.
meanwhile in poland: polsat box (formely cyfrowy polsat) still updates boxes from 2010 (they work like shit, but they work i guess)
The first Sky Digital boxes came out in the UK in 1998. I’d say they’ve had a good run.
@@marria01 nice, older cyfrowy polsat boxes than 2010 probably dont work anymore
Gonna be going back in time now but instead of press tv then 3 for ITV it’ll be press TV and 1 for BBC One
BSoD on your decoder?
my question is all they are displaying on sd signals are that so why bother you might as well keep broadcasting on sd
Change the Operator Maybe?
Oh dear, how S a D.
It's a mirical it didn't get renamed to onebox
???
Is this only for sky digiboxes? I use a HDHomeRun box and I still get SD.
This is for all SD boxes. If your HDHR supports DVB-S2 HD you're fine.
Sky+HD still working???
Yes, Sky+ HD boxes still work fine.
Analog or Digital???
Hi Elyas, it’s digital
@@RyanGonTV which digibox you have? Seems old.
@@BackupWhenTH-camIsntWorking I have too many to count XD
is this still on air?
Nope
Now that I think about it… what’s the point of Set top boxes when your regular tv can connect through a satellite connection and therefore watch live TV
Because not all TV's can do that. Not all TV's have the tuners for that. The reason set top boxes exist is because they have tuners for the satellite TV your tv doesn't. That's also to stop piracy.
@@BackupWhenTH-camIsntWorking This ^
@@BackupWhenTH-camIsntWorking Especially in 1998 when this service launched. There was no other way to receive Sky Digital on the existing analogue TVs.
@@BackupWhenTH-camIsntWorking Oh that makes a lot of sense now... on regards to that, why do tuners in tvs exist when thats the point of set-top boxes?
@@SadLivingPerson in the 1990s and even into the 2000s, most people in the UK were receiving analogue channels in the form of BBC 1, BBC 2, ITV, C4 and if lucky C5 on CRT tellies and even early LED tellies which didn't have built in digital decoders, then slowly people realised that a set top box will be needed in order to carry on watching the traditional terrestrial channels via digital transmission. The analogue signal was finally totally switched off in 2013 and by that point everyone were owning set top boxes connected to "traditional" non-smart tellies and it is only in the last 10 years pretty much everyone owned digital freeview enabled tellies with apps for streaming content eventually negated the need of a set top box altogether.
This is not proper 50 FPS, but 25 FPS just uploaded as 50 FPS.
Thanks for letting me know Fungo, I have the source 25i file and I’ll try deinterlacing it again.
@@RyanGonTV Do it with Handbrake, and use Bob deinterlacing. Handbrake does pretty good job at deinterlacing, and since recently it even allows upscaling.
@@fungo6631 Thanks Fungo, will have to try it again - sometimes for me it would output 576p50 but not deinterlaced... Confusing XD
@@RyanGonTV You need to turn on interlace detection as well. And upscale it to at least 720p50 for it to work on TH-cam.
why BBC R2 sounds so distorted?
They didn’t limit the audio
Thank god something like this will never happen in America
Give it 5 years XD
so is this like a sky box before the 2000s?
Yes it is
I'm not even British. rip to your telly m8
Although It Says "Digibox", Thats Not Digital. But Support 16:9 Analog Broadcasting Signal?
Sky digiboxes could only receive and decode MPEG-2 encoded channels broadcast in a digital multiplex, although many were originally (1998) broadcast at 625 line SD resolution. They pointed at 28.2°E Astra 2 constellation which offered no analogue services, unlike the old 19.2° satellites. The Digibox was incapable of tuning or displaying analogue satellite broadcasts.
@@ChristopherWoods Well said Christopher, I think most now are 544x576.
When that was recorded?
8th of January, 2024.
Nice sound interferences
Pure analogue 😁
Sick beat tho
State broadcaster should not be on sky box. Paywall better
i have my television from poland my grandma has the canal+ box and i watch from canal+ online i watch mostly nickelodeon and its in hd already phew
What is the point in uploading this video? I have BBC in HD. I never lost it thankfully just change your box. Simple as.
The same people would be complaining down the line that there was no footage recorded of it. You chose to click on this video, not me.
Content like this is nice to look back on to remind you what you've missed.