How to Force Charge Your Growatt Battery System For Octopus Go & Economy 7 Tariffs | Deege Solar
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- In This Video tutorial we will look at how to force charge your Growatt battery system at certain times of the day for Octopus Go or Economy 7 tariffs customers via the ShinePhone App and Growatt Desktop Monitoring Platform also.
This is a perfect way to make the most of our your solar panel system, by buying and storing cheaper energy from the Grid at off-peak hours.
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Great video - super helpful. It might be worth noting that on Android phones the battery first setting is actually labelled 'TOU-Charging'...but works exactly as you have shown. Looking forward to more Growatt related videos!
Thanks for adding that detail Steven, we are glad you liked our video and have pinned your comment so that other android users know. TOU Charging/Time Of Use Charging Actually makes a lot more sense from Growatt!😊
Came across this video searching for instructions on how to manually set up Growatt battery for the Octopus flux tariff, and this is exactly what I've been looking for! Great video, very clearly explained. Thanks!
Fantastic help. I've just changed the timing to stop at 5.30am after Octopus Go gave us an extra hour of cheap electricity. Many thanks.
This video is just first rate, and helped me solve my issues straight off. Please, please keep such videos coming........... ..
I wish all TH-cam videos explaining what to do to those with little knowledge of technical applications like myself were as simply explained. Every step to undertake was clear, and your presentation style is excellent,not rushed through with what are often key bits missing as others do. This is so helpful, if Growatt made lagers you would be head brewer.
Thank you for leaving such a lovely comment! We are glad our team could help, and are more than happy to be Growatt's head brewer! 🍻
Hi, I just wanted to add my thanks for your video which was very easy to follow. I'm on a new EDF tariff for EV charging between midnight and 5am which costs 8p/kWhr. However, when I charge my EV it takes all of the power out of the battery first, so by 1 am the battery is flat, until it gets recharged by the panels. Consequently, I'm using expensive grid power for half of the day. Now I'll be able to charge the EV from the grid between midnight and 4pm and then recharge the battery to about 60% from 4pm to 5pm. I love optimisations like this and in the winter it'll even more effective.
Brilliant and very well explained. I was able to get my barry charging from the grid straight away, although here in Spain I did not have the option "Bat first" and used "Enable AC Charging". Thanks!
Brilliant clear description and instructions. Well done and many thanks
Hiya Deege, great video. We learnt so much from just this one video that I have subscribed to your channel. We had our system fitted last October with little or no information from the supplier/ installers. We knew NOTHING about forced charge or discharge of the batter. We are on Octopus Agile Outgoing for export and Octopus Flexible for import. I think we have to be on Agile Outgoing for a year before we can change. We both have EV’s but luckily we can charge these at work for free. Once again thank you and we look forward to watching more videos from you
Thank you for subscribing and thank you even more for the positive feedback. 💚
We are glad to see our videos helping home owners get the most from their solar pv system, and appreciate your on-going support.
Brilliant video. We use Octopus Go to charge our EV at the cheap rate and now it will fill our batteries even when cloudy. Deege's video helped me to restart our shinephone app after changing broadband supplier and now this so a huge thankyou. Thankyou also to the subscriber who pointed out the different access point for Android phones.
Thank you for your comment, it's great to see so many homeowners benefitting from our videos. 😃
Thanks bro, great help for when winter hits
Nice, straightforward, easy to follow video and helped me fix what I needed. Thank you!
That's what we like to hear! 💪 💚
Many thanks Temi for the video, I have the information if I switch to Octopus energy on how to set battery charging from grid. My Growatt system is fantastic. Campbell
Incredible video! Thanks a lot!
Very helpful, thank you 🙏
Thank you! Very useful video!
Glad it was helpful!
Really really useful information, thank you
Thanks so much for this. This video alone has prompted me to subscribe. Great info!!!!!
Hello New Subscriber. 😃 👋
Brilliant guide, thank you. Can I just ask how much current is safe to draw overnight? I have my car, dishwasher, tumble drier and now this.
Really helpful and easy to do - great video thank you
Don't mention it. 😊
Really useful video that was lacking from the installers. I'd really appreciate the best way of setting up for force battery charging with an electric car so that you can maximise the night rate for both :)
Thanks 🙏 We will add it to the list! 🫡
Don’t forget to subscribe so you don’t miss any future content! 😀
Great, informative video!
Here's one for you...
Can I reduce the battery charge rate from solar?
After the house load, excess is being rushed into the batteries at 100% (up to 3kw/h) I can then be full (20kw) by the afternoon which can result in a restriction in generation. Is there a way to reduce priority charge to say 80% (max 2.4kwh) and exporting a larger amount to the grid earlier in the day?
Very useful info if your live in an area with frequent power cuts and you already have an automatic transfer switch that lets you continue without grid supply. Not every installer fits ATS devices though.
they cost extra. my fitted a cheaper option- a socket next to the battery
Superb vid mate 👍
Thank you 🙏
Very nice and informative video. Thank you
You're Welcome ☺
Great video, very helpful. I'mon version 7.1.1 of the app & the "Bat first" option is now called "TOU-charging"
Thanks for the info!
Hi Mate, nice video, That answered one of my questions 👍I have another one, how do I get the weather to show up in the top right of the dashboard. Currently it looks as though it's not pulling weather data through?
Very useful video.
Glad you think so!
Great video and really helpful as have been waiting months for our installation company to explain how to do this… just a heads up that the cheaper rate with Octopus is now 02.00 - 05.00 so check your cheaper tariff times
Thanks. Very informative. I've done everything you suggest, but my SPH6000 refuses to follow these instructions. It charges ok during the day (with ppv) but not with the grid. Any suggestions???
Great video, the problem I have when I go into Control I see a different list. Has there been an App update which has changed the options? I have a MIN series Growatt inverter.
This is fantastic, thank you. One quick question: if I set "battery first" but disable "AC charge", will my solar panels charge the battery at the specified hours?
Hi Temi. This is really useful. Thanks for putting it up. I don't have the Bat First option in the Control menu. Am I missing something somewhere? Thanks! Paul
Thank you, help made easy. Sun is charging my battery so how do I stop charging from the grid please? I have growatt inverter.
ADD OPTIMIZER VIDEO - I can see on the Growatt (Shine) desktop portal there's the option to ADD OPTIMIZER to gain visibility of the Tigo Optimisers.
It would be great if you did a video on this as the "Select Inverter" option doesn't allow you to proceed (not sure if this is an individual issue)?
I currently have low solar performance (which I'd expect with a winter install) but I do not have any Tigo visibility on the few sunny days we did have to see why the panel performance was still poor?
Hello, brilliant video. I want to use my growatt to charge my car from Solar and battery during the day. I tried this and found I was also downloading from the grid at the same time. Can you tell me how to set up to allow just battery and sunshine until either exhausted or changed.
Thankyou
Hi, this looks good, but whilst you installed a Growatt PV Inverter you supplied a Goodwe battery inverter and batteries - is these a video for those too please?
Hi Tim,
Not sure if you're still answering questions but here's mine.
I have a Growatt battery & inverter. While I'm away on holiday, I set my battery to force discharge between 4pm & 7pm when my Octopus Flex export prices are highest. When you're away for a month at a time, this can be quite lucrative.
The thing is, when I go into ShinePhone, if I set the discharge rate to 50%, it simply resets the number to 100%. Why???
Brilliant, thank you really struggling to get this from the installers. I kind of worked it out on my own but wasn't sure. Now I am thanks to you. For another video how to stop sending power to the grid as I'm not yet on a Smart Export Guarantee set up yet. - please.
You're Welcome! and Great Suggestion, we will make sure to get this recorded and uploaded as soon as possible. 😊 In the meanwhile make sure to subscribe!
Me too!
I guess you have fixed rates for specific times like 01:00 am to 04:00 am.
But how can you control the growatt inverter based on tarifs cause we have dynamic tarifs from the german power exchange.
I would need a rule based charging like if before 6 am and price below 0,3 € then charge
Any ideas how to get access ?
I get the tarifs for the next 24 hours each evening so I do know in advance the prices of tomorrow. Each hour has its own tarif and the price right now goes usually from 25 Cent to over 45 Cent.
I do use the home assistand system so I would prefer to get any control from there over this behaviour.
Thank you very much. Now I know why just pressing the Enter key didn't work in the Enter Key box.
Glad we could help!
Thanks for the video. easy to understand and follow. But the problem I have is once battery charged, the SPH5000 inverter randomly sends my energy to the grid as export? How do I stop this using the shinephone settings? I need my stored energy to power my house load. Thanks gain.
😊will do this now and again as a grid test. Seen this before
Hi, we've done exactly what the video instructs but the charging (power from grid to batt) at the set parameters is negligible and doesn't take the stored power past 12%. Basically force charging does not work for us. Are we doing something wrong?
Do you have a similar video for the Growatt MinXH series as these look very different?
thanks bro
Any time 😊
That's very helpful, thanks. So if the battery is set to charge to maybe 50% in the settings you demonstrated, I assume that when the sun comes out next day it will still charge from the solar panels to 100% (i.e. the 50% would only apply to the grid force charge)?
Thank you and Yes that is correct! 😊
Could you explain the ‘power harvester’ setting please? I can’t change from this setting no matter what I do and my batteries stop charging at around 30%
So if I set the soc to 20% does this only apply for the grid charging. Will my battery still charge the extra 80% from panels ?
i dont have the option of AC charge on/off - will this stil work without this option or does it mean my battery is not configured to take charge from the grid ?
Thanks for this video found it very helpful!. Are you able to do a video on how to set the inverter to only use grid power to charge your EV. Just so you don't deplete the battery?
I'll ask Temi 😊
@@deegesolar Thank you 👍
Your Video are really helpful thank you.
Can you do a video on how to use grid only during octopus go off peak hours please.
We are glad you found our video useful, we will add your suggestion to our list! Make sure to subscribe to not miss out on future content. 😊
Thanks for the video! So I've set the "stop charging soc" to 70% as I saw we would get some sun the next day, but I noticed the battery still trickle charged from the grid up to 94%... Any idea why it would do this..?
I have the same issue. I set to 80% and it fully charged the battery.
This was really helpful, now I am forced to go and watch your other videos.
Haha we hope you enjoy the rest of our content. 😊
I can’t seem to go to the desktop version of the BMS. The address he supplied doesn’t seem to work for me. Any help would be appreciated.
Hi, thanks for the video re force charging. Are you able to tell me how I can get my grow at inverter to show our grid use in the shine app? All other graphs are there to see, but we have lost the graph showing our use from the grid, many thanks, Robert
Hi, so for me, in the app, when you go to my device list and click on the battery inverter, when you scroll down to the graph, there is a drop down at the top right, there you can select "imported from grid"
Good video, really appreciatte the knowledge share. Regarding the "Discharged stopped soc" value, we have it set it to 5%. Can we set it to 0% and use the whole battery or is not recommended?
With Lipo batteries never go below 10% if you want them to stay in good shape for longer.
I did it exactly like in the video and on the first night it works fine, but then on the following nights the scheduler doesn't repeat itself again and it doesn't work, I've tried it at different times in different time slots but the same thing always happens, on the first night it works well but it doesn't happen again the following nights, any idea how to solve the problem?
@deegeSolar Since the shinephone app update on 6th March this has stopped working for me. Been charging the batteries fine for months between 00:30 and 04:30 until the last few days.
Hi, my growatt battery charge rate is set to 100% but I notice on the dashboard I'm only changing at 500w and remaining power from solar is being exported to the grid. Why is the 5kwh battery not charging at 3kw?
great video.thanks.
A question, do I ned to change system to Daylight Saving time? If so,How?
Every forced charge/discharge I've done since the clocks have changed is an hour out. I have 'Set time' within settings to now but it doesn't make any difference.
It should do it automatically. 😊
@@deegesolar Yes it does work, I was just being a newb!
Hallo mate, what do I do if I cannot change settings on my app? It seems my options are greyed out and I get "my account does not have permission to operate". How do I change that? Try as I may I have not been successful.
Great video, thanks very much. I’ve followed your instructions, but when I hit done in the app, I keep getting the message “system error” and it won’t allow me to saving the new settings, any ideas what’s going wrong?
This sounds likely due to a server issue, we suggest trying again at a later time. 😊
@@deegesolar Yeah the Growatt server isn’t the most reliable, turns out even though it said system error, it still made the changes. I have my system hooked up to a Raspberry Pi with Solar Assistant software, night and day compared to the Growatt software. Only downside at the minute is if I want to make changes to battery charging times I have to replace the Raspberry Pi with the Growatt wifi dongle, all of which is in the loft!
Mine keeps popping up with Note(501) modification failed
Great, thanks. Any chance of a video on how to configure Growatt for the new Octopus Flux tariff?
Working on it!
@@deegesolar wonderwatt may solve this challenge!!
Anyone know why I keep getting Network Timeout on this app when I try to refresh data ?
Why do I get my graphs in brrown lines
no colors?
Trying to follow video. Stuck where it should say Bat First. 2nd item in my menu says TOU-Charging and Bat first is nowhere in menu list. Can you advise? Thanks
Yes if you are on an Android it falls under TOU (Time of Use) Charging 😁
How can I set the battery to only discharge between certain times?
I tried to set the TOU between 17:00 and 21:00, but the battery discharges immediately after it got charged.
Any suggestions?
I'm having this problem too.
My shine phone don't have this options why?
Hi - New to Growatt App, and the settings must have changed in the app - as the Batt First is no longer an option in the settings - could you update this please.
Now this option is called TOU-Charging.
Guys looks to me like Growatt have updated their web page. I can no longer see where to set the charge discharge rates!
Have been using this for months to make the most of my solar, batteries and Octopus Agile tariff. Went into the online growatt server today and the gui has changed and I can’t find the option to control the batteryCan you help please.
I had the same experience on the web based shineserver but the phone app was still ok. Also I had two plants showing in my dashboard. One new and one disabled?. Next day all was back to normal so assume Growatt did some update to the system.
1:24 Weird, I don't have 'events' ,'control' , or 'edit' at the bottom of my battery screen.
What gives?
Hi can you help I can’t see those setting on my app, my installer can, how do I get access as I am set up as a browser
Hi, did you get this resolved.. have the same issue
So we don’t seem to have the ‘events’ ‘control’ or ‘edit’ option at the bottom of the screen…why would this be please? 😢
Hi, did you get this resolved.. got the same issue?
I charge my battery to force charge for winter and summer settings. However this coming summer I plan to move onto the agile export tariff So how can I set the battery to utilise agile export to export above a certain price point and a maximum discharge percentage. Keep plugging into the sun guys
Unfortunately, Growatt doesn't automatically work with Octopus agile like some other brands. You will still have to manually set the time when you wish to force charge your battery, and on Octopus agile you will have to do this daily to accommodate the plunge prices.
I don't have the control option on my account? My installer set up the account but I don't have the ability to force charge via the app or server... Any help?
same problem...
Thanks for the Vid, Deege. I know it's a long shot, but I am just about to install Growatt ARK HV batteries to my Hybrid MIN 5000 inverter. Can anyone tell me how to add the batteries on Shinephone? I get to adding the seriel number but then it asks me for the "check code" What the heck is that and where is it? Thank you!
Thanks! There is no need to add the batteries onto the Shinephone app, just the inverter.
@@deegesolarThank you!
@@deegesolar I tried this. I connected the batteries up (+, -, earth and comms, and turned the system back on as indicated in the instructions and in that order). Batteries are live and healthy with all 4 SOC lights on but still no batteries appearing on the ShinePhone App. Any idea how long it takes before they appear please?
@@deegesolar Just so you know, I sorted my problem out (took me months!). It was an assembly line problem. Some one had labelled the comms cables incorrectly and switched the labels on cables A and B. I had the good sense to check the colour coding against the manual, and it worked straight away.
I have two GrowattGBLI6532 and the SPH5000 inverter but my battery charge rate seems to be limited to 2.99kW - is that correct or is there a setting to raise the charge rate. Otherwise on a sunny day power is going to the grid before the battery is at 100% - thanks.
Yes that is correct, the Discharge rate is limited to 3kW for that kind of system, however Growatt have released a new inverter, the SPH BL-UP which allows for a 4kW Discharge!
@@deegesolar Thanks for that - shame my solar installers didn't mention the new version 😞 You're right though, I was reading the specs for the new one - is it available in the UK?
Hi, I followed your instructions but after clicking 'done' it will always say system error. What shall I do?
Same error for me. Did you manage to solve it?
Hi Temmi, can you please help. I have connected growatt to my Wi-Fi. The problem I have is that I’m not receiving real-time data. I have to log off and log on again to view what my solar pannels are doing. Can you please help
I had that too when my system was installed but the installer said 'it gets better over a few weeks' - and it did! So hopefully will yours, fingers crossed.
What Growatt equipment is there that can charge at 5kw??? I asked Deege if there was such a thing and I was told no, so hoping there's some news on a 5kw option.
Our new Growatt Package - The Growatt ARK HV Batteries, installed alongside a 6kW Growatt HV Hybrid Inverter - has a Discharge rate of 6kW. So that's always an option. 😊
@@deegesolar Our system went in a few months ago. Is a 6kW charge rate possible alongside the standard Growatt 6.5Kw batteries?
@@julianbashford Unfortunately the peak charge/discharge rate of the 6.5kWh Growatt Battery is 3kW
@@deegesolar The datasheet for the 6.5kWh Growatt Battery is 5kW - not 3. I can send you a photo of the spec on the side of the batteries that says "maximum charge / discarge power - 5kw". But I've told Deege this twice already.... I was expecting 5kw charging speeds, and it's a pain not getting more than 2.87
@@julianbashford your inverter may be 3kW which will give its max charge
These settings are different for different inverters, I hope the Deege Solar would update the video i.e, other models. Moreover the iOS app - web and android are completely different ok agree some of the features are the same but the iOS app has two operating modes and whislt android has just one, such an inconsistent platform, app really really sucks.
OMG!!!! Matey!!!!!
You are my dreams come true!!! I’ve been trolling all sorts of shite looking for answers on this!!!!
Saved this video now! But I have another question can you help getting a data logger to work? It was working fine but I deleted it some how
Now it’s says my WiFi signal is poor
Glad you found the video useful 😊 Our Team will be posting more videos about Growatt products including how to get the data logger working soon, so make sure to keep an eye out, and any other tutorials you would like just let us know in the comments below. 👇
@@deegesolar sorted the data logger eventually but I’m sure other people willl be having same issues in the future. So fill this channel with content and hopefully get monetised 🤞🏼👍🏻🍻
@@rymoe6299 That’s great to hear! And that’s the plan! Don’t forget to subscribe 😀 🤝
Hiya Deege, really informative video mate. We had our system put in last October and got next to no information from the supplier/ installers whatsoever. I have subscribed to your channel and wish you lots of success mate. We have learnt so much just from this one video. We are currently on Octopus Agile Outgoing for export and Octopus Flexible for import. I believe we have to have Agile Outgoing for a year before we can change but to learn about the force charging and discharging has been an eye opener. thanks pal.
It's extremely dull having to do this every single day to get maximum use of Octopus Agile. There should be an integration layer, or someone running a service that allows you to link multiple systems together to actively manage things (without having to locally host equipment) - much like IFTTT.
There are very few systems that work hand-in-hand with Octopus Agile. We understand the frustration and hopefully @Growatt can come up with a solution soon!
@@deegesolar I was looking at Octopus Go today - which would be an excellent solution for some, with 10p per unit costs to charge your car, except it doesn't support Zappi chargers at this point. Everywhere you turn, there's a "the market is still very young, we are early adopters" feeling out there. If you had Zappi integrated into Octopus (they have other chargers supported), you could charge a family EV car for £6.
@@julianbashford Great insight there Julian! I am sure Octopus Energy will be adding more EV Chargers soon, however it is all based on partnerships, the industry as a whole is very fast paced, which is great because there is a lot of innovation but it also means there is a lot of adapting to be done.
So I have to set this every day so the date shown is today for it to charge overnight?
@@MS-watch-YT You had to adjust the charging times according to Octopus's notices each day. I've ended up moving to Octopus Go which gives you 4 hours of cheap charging for car and house - only restricted by the fact that the solar system put in by Deege is restricted to 2.87kw charging rates, which means we only get about half a day's charge into batteries. Which is gutting.
The password doesn't work for me
App is shite. Don't even have the same settings
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