I also starting out using the Double Alpha sensor, which works well, but it can't automatically stop a press with an autodrive. Since I have an autodrive, I got the Mark 7 powder check sensor and swapped the Double Alpha out it. Setup was easy and it does indeed stop the autodrive when the powder throw is outside the range of acceptability. It doesn't have the audio output of the DA, but it does stop the machine. So, for that reason, I am staying with the Mark 7 sensor. For a manual setup, the Double Alpha would as good (or better) and be quite a bit cheaper. For an autodrive, this is the way to go.
Truth is, of all the parts of this press this part is the most frustrating.. with 223 especially.. 1/2 the time it shuts down the press its a fauls flag. That alot when you find out it goes off every 10 to 15 cases.. ( on my revaluation 's and auto drives.) Also parts inside a super finicky.. only thing that sort of helps is polishing internals and making sure they are clean
Yep, I commented earlier that i wished the powder check was a bit better, easier to adjust and change out. I dunno where my comment went. I absolutely love the machine, otherwise. I'd like to buy an updated version if it ever gets released.
@High Desert Drew I'm going Ammoload next time.. to manny problems with the original revolution. Not nearly as fast as I need for rifle and not nearly as consistent in general. For home use it is but for a business no way
@@luckyshotammunitiongunsllc2369 Unless Ammoload upped their game on the rifle machine I'd look at Camdex instead, that thing used to have issues with powder fouling the main drive linkage and it would get full of a sludge of powder and grease in that scotch yoke design. I used to do high production on ammoload Mark X pistol machines. Sold 'em off a few years ago when we stopped going pistol. I think I like the Ammoload rifle machines, and Camdex rifle machines, but I like the Mark 7 Apex better. That said, I don't prime, and I don't size on it, I'm running all new components. I could probably reasonably keep 3 of them going by myself.
Can you buy just the die bodies? I emailed mark 7 and got a bs reply and then silence. I’m not sure if they just didn’t understand what I was asking for or what happened.
@@kalindanley2843 It's probably just fine for new if you have a really dialed in load. One trick you can pull since there's so many die stations is multiple powder drops.
I use it for prs type matches. I load dasher/br/creedmoor/6x47 on a progressive press and I hate myself for not have purchasing it earlier. I have single digit SDs but I use auto trickler for the powder
@@wickedtrutharms57 The Revolution and the Apex 10 are different machines, the Revolution has a rather complex built in primer autofeed system, some differences in the frame, and comes fully integrated. The Apex 10 has a number of components.
I use a alpha dynamic powder check. Very good product.
I also starting out using the Double Alpha sensor, which works well, but it can't automatically stop a press with an autodrive. Since I have an autodrive, I got the Mark 7 powder check sensor and swapped the Double Alpha out it. Setup was easy and it does indeed stop the autodrive when the powder throw is outside the range of acceptability. It doesn't have the audio output of the DA, but it does stop the machine. So, for that reason, I am staying with the Mark 7 sensor. For a manual setup, the Double Alpha would as good (or better) and be quite a bit cheaper. For an autodrive, this is the way to go.
great that his was set correct the first time but does not explain how to adjust the sensor if it is not correct height.
Truth is, of all the parts of this press this part is the most frustrating.. with 223 especially.. 1/2 the time it shuts down the press its a fauls flag. That alot when you find out it goes off every 10 to 15 cases.. ( on my revaluation 's and auto drives.) Also parts inside a super finicky.. only thing that sort of helps is polishing internals and making sure they are clean
Yep, I commented earlier that i wished the powder check was a bit better, easier to adjust and change out. I dunno where my comment went. I absolutely love the machine, otherwise. I'd like to buy an updated version if it ever gets released.
@High Desert Drew I'm going Ammoload next time.. to manny problems with the original revolution. Not nearly as fast as I need for rifle and not nearly as consistent in general. For home use it is but for a business no way
@@luckyshotammunitiongunsllc2369 who makes ammoload?
@@Soulman6969 ammo load world wide..
@@luckyshotammunitiongunsllc2369 Unless Ammoload upped their game on the rifle machine I'd look at Camdex instead, that thing used to have issues with powder fouling the main drive linkage and it would get full of a sludge of powder and grease in that scotch yoke design. I used to do high production on ammoload Mark X pistol machines. Sold 'em off a few years ago when we stopped going pistol. I think I like the Ammoload rifle machines, and Camdex rifle machines, but I like the Mark 7 Apex better. That said, I don't prime, and I don't size on it, I'm running all new components. I could probably reasonably keep 3 of them going by myself.
Can you buy just the die bodies? I emailed mark 7 and got a bs reply and then silence. I’m not sure if they just didn’t understand what I was asking for or what happened.
Was this made to be strickly proprietary?
Yes, it only works with the autodrive system.
I have not watched all the videos but... what is your opinion on the Mark 7 on 6.5 creedmoor? Or 6GT? What kind of SD do people normally see?
You're unlikely to find anyone who is going to do load data and testing for a bolt gun using a progressive. Imo.
@@kalindanley2843 It's probably just fine for new if you have a really dialed in load. One trick you can pull since there's so many die stations is multiple powder drops.
@@kalindanley2843 Why do you say "bolt gun"? Lots of 6.5 creedmoor semi-autos on the market (I'm loading for my Nemo right now).
I use it for prs type matches. I load dasher/br/creedmoor/6x47 on a progressive press and I hate myself for not have purchasing it earlier. I have single digit SDs but I use auto trickler for the powder
@@TonyG818 Using a Mark 7? That's impressive. And helpful. Considering going that route, as a single stage press is just too time consuming at volume.
Love the technology if you really shoot a lot this would be great !
Whats the whole cost of the full set up
I bought one and set it up for 5.56, all in, including the bullet feeders and whatnot ~$6500. I bought the powder, bullet, primer drop sensors.
Full revolution set up 2 years ago was 15k
Thanks
15k was the revaluation
@@wickedtrutharms57 The Revolution and the Apex 10 are different machines, the Revolution has a rather complex built in primer autofeed system, some differences in the frame, and comes fully integrated. The Apex 10 has a number of components.
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Gavin just weigh them. Why to take them apart.
It would be nice if you guys would show this on a press that the average guy can afford instead of these ridiculous contraptions.