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"Road relevance"
Why? That's what WSBK is for. GP has always been prototypes built purely for racing. Dumb!
Remember VTEC technology used in F1? Now even some mopad use it.
I agree with @Azel8rrp
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@@u.a.nugrohoSince when VTEC being used in F1? F1 always outlaws any form of continuously variable valve technology.
Developing technology has always been what the competing manufacturers claim motivated them to compete in MotoGP.
WSBK does little to promote tomorrow's technology, the rules are restrictive enough the bikes you see competing are representative of the best of today's technology.
@@soraaoixxthebluesky Honda developed VTEC in the 80s for their turbo motors with McLaren. When everybody else realized what they were doing and that they couldn't do it except at a major cost as well as being 3-4 years behind Honda, was when the other manufacturers had it banned. IIRC, I also think BMW had some sort of variable valve timing on those crazy 1400 bhp 1.4L firecrackers.
MotoGP in 2030: "Our motorbikes are now even more sustainable, they are powered by pedals. Safety has also increased thanks to the addition of training wheels"
MotoGP in 2040: 300cc
MotoGP in 2050: MotoE-GP
Imagine if moto gp bikes had training wheels so that they could go faster and never crash.
@@Dirkzy On appellerai ca la F1!
I'm pretty sure most fans only wanna see 2 things:
-Body/helmet cam
-Regulations allowing teams to make crazy prototype engines like the honda V5
True!
And twostrokes 🤭
@@LGTelevison1 sure, and rotaries if they can make it efficient enough!
loved the shoulder camera!
I would like to see more innovation in the cycle parts. I don't know if the rules forbid things like front centre-hub stering, but it seems odd that all the bikes use minor variations on the same rolling chassis technology. I know Ducati tried using the engine as the frame, and it did not work. But surely that is not the only variation that would work.
@@John.0z well, innovations are still useful even if they don't work as intended the first time, most sport bikes today uses the engine as a stressed member of the frame, and GP bikes all use their engine for structural rigidity to a point.
The idea still lives on in ducati's MotoE bikes, the whole battery package functions as the monocoque chassis.
Alternative headline "Liberty Media buys MotoGP, immediately takes steps to make it as shit as F1"
Bro spitting fax
While everyone heralded the Liberty Media takeover, I have reservations about any connection to F1 and also how the US likes to do things compared to European countries.
These regs are older than the Liberty Media acquisition.
all liberty media cares about is money and views, they dont know their audience at all😂
Road relavant?! Are you serious? That's why we have World SBK. Instead of reducing the tank capacity and engine cc add extra few laps.
I am realy a bit scarsd for World Sbk...if they cancel.the series ?? Bcs they will become.too close together with speed and lap times ??
@@zelcpavle5494 exactly now idgaf about motogp . Their basically wsbk+ riders. There will no longer be a need for alien riders.
@@MadWilli True, there won't be much difference between Moto 2 and MotoGP as well. Unless they reduce the power there too.
@@thepeacekpr the only solution I see after reducing the cc is hybrid technology to make up the difference. I’m sure the only reason liberty released this so was to see how the audience reacts.
You realize they're trying to delete 1000cc four cylinder engine from the market
Dissapointed with this announcement... MotoGP bikes should be getting faster, not slower
the bikes are fast enough. cut the aero bs and thats it
Maybe you would think different if you had been on one of these rockets yourself...or had a Crash at high speed. And it's not like they will only have 100hp in the future
@@kkkjkk641 the people that say 200BHP superbikes don't need rider aids are the ones that want MotoGP to go backwards. Aero is required with 300+ HP. Ride height device is needed to put the power down. MotoGP is about pushing the limits. 2027 is going to be a sad year
@@kkkjkk641they're MotoGP riders, they know the risk of this sport, that's why they're special because they can handle that kind of pressure, i never heard any riders complain about their bike slow, in fact they want to be faster
rider safety more important i think....they already fast enough
Wow...looks like an overwhelming majority do NOT favor these proposed changes. MotoGP has already tried 800 cc engines in their race bikes. And look how that ended up. Green fuel for the bikes is hypocritical compared to the amount of emissions from the planes and transport vehicles used to move from one continent to another. Does MotoGP, Liberty, Dorna, FIM all think that we, the fans, are stupid? It's not a good idea to patronize and condescend your paying audience. You have been warned.
greenwashing is very sad and only a cosmetic decision
I think it is fair to say that yes, Dorna, FIM and particularly Liberty DO think we are stupid... or maybe just that we are sufficiently hooked on the racing that we will tolerate all their BS?
Green fuel is not to be sustainable as such, it‘s to showcase the technology.
They want to show green fuel can be a substitute. They are marketing the fuel for better sales and more widespread acceptance.
The smaller engine size and lesser fuel capacity is aimed at driving innovation for efficient engines.
Bruh. We don't want road relevant. We don't want smaller engines. Pretty sure the 800cc years weren't as good.
They ended up being faster in the corners than the 1000cc they replaced so the safety excuse is BS
The smaller engine probably some "Eco friendly" thingy again, but the road relevant one is just pure dumb decision Tbh, it's like asking F1 cars to be road relevant...
@@noobscoopsies1100 I mean f1 cars are completely alien to road vehicles, but MotoGP bikes are still very close to production bikes. Apart from the aero, the rest of the construction is ectremely similar
@@noobscoopsies1100 all u have un F1 are boring races. A lot of amazing technology but useless because it only makes Racing worse. Glad MotoGP is not going on the same direction and is focusing on Racing quality and not technology
After 2026, MotoGP will NOT remain as the pinnacle of two wheel motorsports.
"Here at MotoGP, despite currently having the most exciting racing ever, we're reducing the speed, power, and limits of our bikes, despite that being the reason people watch and what seperates us from superbikes to make us the elite. Slow, mileage-watching, and efficiency is what you all dont scream out for, so thats precisely what we're giving you! Enjoy!"
you dont want more overtaking?????
@@melancholy4284 1000cc era has more overtake than 800cc
Did you forget that most rider hated 800cc era and make dorna to raise up 1000cc
@@franklinclinton779 I agree with you that 1000 cc MotoGP is more interesting than 800 cc, it would be even more interesting if MotoGP was without Aero winglets and ECUs released from each manufacturer. without requiring the use of a Magneti Marelli ECU
@@melancholy4284Clearly you forgot how terrible the old 800cc day was. Low number of entries on the grid cause the cost were just too expensive. Only 4 or so bikes are able to compete for victory despite having no aero devices or whatsoever. Are they trying to mimic what’s going on during the past?
@@soraaoixxtheblueskybro you are making no sense at all. Precisely this regulations will make It cheaper for new manufacturers to enter MotoGP, will make bikes more agile which will lead to more overtakings. I only see good things here. More equality=more excitement
They say they will reduce the cc to 850 because it will be more “sustainable”, but then they say they will race on 100% sustainable fuel… So why then reduce the amount of cc if the fuel is already 100% sustainable? This makes no sense at all
Because "100% sustainable" doesn't mean anything beyond marketing slogans. They are just synthetic fuels and biofuels, but still burning fuels anyway. Which in the case of 20 bikes, we don't care much. But Moto GP could have been at the forefront for developping more efficient engines for the millions of bikes on the road, which matter a lot more.
The fuel production is sustainable, which means its not like regular petrol where there's a lot of byproducts and emissions. Using less fuel will make the "racing" more sustainable.
Of course none of this matters because when they say sustainable they mean they've bought Carbon "credits" to offset their bs
@YassineSaidi if it's synthetic, the engine volume is irrelevant
Keep cc higher
@@saltymonke3682 Not really, because bigger engine means more fuel used. And that fuel still makes CO2 by burning.
If we want to keep having combustion engines, we ought to work on how to make them more thermally efficient, to have more power but use less fuel. Right now, more than half the energy, sometimes up to 80%, in the fuel is lost in heat transfers.
In F1, they've been able to improve the thermal efficiency of the combustion engines at 52%, nearly double that of a average road car. That's reason for hope !
Sustainability in motor racing is oxymoronic. These are the same regs that ruined F1
F1 cars are getting faster at least
@@jorge-wh4pf They're getting slower too
@@kerimca98 From everything i have seen they're are getting faster
@@jorge-wh4pf 2026 may be even slower due to reduced fuel, power, etc
@@kerimca98 less aero, faster corner speeds and more overtake opportunities. Its overall gonna be way more competitive. There's a reason why f1 has way less overtakes than the lower classes. Id say it's gonna be better
This is a masterclass on how to market negative points as positive ones.
Take notes ladies and gentlemen.
i mean the holeshot and ride height adjust device ban is Big W
@Dendyaryadi
Can go both ways, depending on the argument. But yeah, I can agree on that.
But the other points? No one asked for it, and it'll contribute nothing to the sport nor for the safety.
100% dumb they are.
Is the most stupid thing,in 2008 they have that also try because the Motogp Bikes was too fast but then exactly the opposite happen the bikes became even more faster because the bikes had more corner speed.
The whole thing could have been made much easier and, above all, much cheaper for the manufacturers, by simply reducing and regulating the performance. There are different ways to do this, for example by reducing the rpm, etc.
And you could have said, for example, that the bikes are not allowed to have more power than 240 hp or however much you want to reduce that would be much cheaper and take much less resources.
So the manufacturers all have to invest a lot of money and above all the joke will be that the Moto2 will have engines of almost the same size, come on what is that.
Removing power is always easier than generating more power, so you don't have to change the entire engine concept straight away for better Motogp races.They could just bann the winglets and ride height devices and reduce the power And the races would immediately be more exciting again without having to invest a lot of money
@El_turco82
Agreed.
There are many points that you can amend and regulate better before going for engine capacity reduction.
Moreover, even if you eventually do go for capacity reduction, I think 850 is too much. It's too far from motogp and closer to moto2.
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MotoGP got infected by F1 technology decline
Thank you Liberty media... 🙄
@@noobscoopsies1100 nah..ppl have been bitching about the aero and ride height devices cuz they think removing it will bring their fav team back to the top...this has been in the works since Ducati has been making their climb.
Meanwhile Formula E and WEC has gotten better with their improved Gen3 cars and lmdh /hypercars and manufacturers joining.
@@constipatedparker5879 nah, they're not popular
@@Ariespradana13cuz they’re more niche categories of racing. The racing is great nonetheless. Ofc typical GP Format racing will be the norm, never thought MotoGP would turn how F1 with some particular nonsense rules
R.I.P Grand Prix Motorcycle Racing 1949-2026😔
WSBK about to be faster than MotoGP lol
I don't watch Motogp based on its 'road relevance' I watch to see the skill of the riders getting a 350+hp machine around a track. Road relevance is what WSPK is there for. Also how for 'safety' reasons is removing holeshot and ride height going to help? What do you want to see the riders 'safely' get all the wheelies off the start or 'safely' highside to the moon?
I think they are pandering to manufacturers as they keep leaving racing altogether eg. Kawasaki and Suzuki
@@merc7paul I can understand if they want to make it more affordable so that will encourage the existing and new manufacturers to join in. But then they can't say its for "safety" or road relevance.
"road relevant" bro thinks he's WSBK💀💀💀💀💀💀
Agree
all motorbike technology sold on the market comes from MotoGP development.
that's what road relevant means! Since all manufacturers only focus on WINGLETS, there is no new technology that can be transferred to mass production motorbikes. apart from winglets on superbikes.
In the past, fuel injection, oval pistons, boxer engines, titanium frames, carbon frames, USD suspension, USD electronics, RIDE MODE, and many other technologies in mass production motorbikes all started from MOTOGP.
that's what road relevant means! by reducing engine capacity and reducing the winglet effect, and replacing fuel with another type. In fact, the latest efficiency technology will emerge which will be passed down to mass production motorbikes in terms of environmental friendliness and fuel economy as well as high performance with a small engine capacity.
Or maybe its an invitation for other manufacturers
@@ereinaldy20 🤓
@@ereinaldy20 Nah dude, all motorcycle technology came from WSBK and 24H of motorcycle races... NOT MOTOGP.
If I remember correctly Kawasaki quit MotoGP due to that exact same reason. Despite economic issue, they find joining MotoGP won't benefits anything for their product quality...
And winglet is proven to not work on legal road bikes...
This is Motogp, not WSBK.
Maybe MotoGP needs to learn from WSBK and not from F1...
I think It is a good change for excitement and the best racing quality in the world. I personally dont care about top speeds or lap records
No you're wrong.....didn't you hear WSBK is going down to 125CC ..🤣🤣
Who cares about efficiency. We want to see speed, better lap times. New lap times set in 2026 will be held for eternity now 😂😂😂
What next? a long with the silly tire pressure rules that can catch riders and teams out, spoiling results, perhaps they'll introduce mpg restrictions so you have to stay over 30mpg at all times during the race. ;)
YEEEEEAH. WEEEEE WAAANNNNNTTT BLOOOOOOOOODDDDD
I've just read an article back in the day explaing how the 2007 to 2011 800cc era was hated by everyone, even by the 2-time world champ during that era Stoner. The article explained how the pilotes hated those bikes, they became more expensive, and not safer. They explained that racing was worse, the differences among pilots were bigger, you couldn't afford a mistake because the bikes got faster around the corners (slower in straights but faster in general than 1000cc, so not safer) thus making it very punishing to make a mistake, so everyone road in a line, reducing the number of takeovers. Bikes became more expensive, so less manufacturers got interested in the competition. Pilots said in that article that racing got more boring, because the bikes were slower in straight lines and it was less exciting for the audience and pilots.
Whoever has decided to implement again 800cc has to study history and learn from the mistakes.
Btw, kinda irrelevant but funny curiosity: Honda and Yamaha were the main impulsors of that decision because they thought it would benefit them, yet the first year ducati with stoner as a pilot destroyed them all the year. The japanese couldn't stand it and reported as ilegal, but they check it and was 100% safe.
MotoGP 4-stroke champion 990 cc era,
2002: Rossi (Honda)
2003: Rossi (Honda)
2004: Rossi (Yamaha)
2005: Rossi (Yamaha)
2006: Hayden (Honda)
800 cc era,
2007: Stoner (Ducati)
2008: Rossi (Yamaha)
2009: Rossi (Yamaha)
2010: Lorenzo (Yamaha)
2011: Stoner (Honda)
1000 cc era,
2012: Lorenzo (Yamaha)
2013: Marquez (Honda)
2014: Marquez (Honda)
2015: Lorenzo (Yamaha)
2016: Marquez (Honda)
2017: Marquez (Honda)
2018: Marquez (Honda)
2019: Marquez (Honda)
2020: Mir (Suzuki)
2021: Quartararo (Yamaha)
2022: Bagnaia (Ducati)
2023: Bagnaia (Ducati)
Japanese bike dominated 4-stroke era. Why did they wanna change the rules???
They're too strong & comfortable. I'm sure somebody who couldn't beat them doesn't like it.
Didn't take but two years of sucking for Honda and Yamaha to get MotoGP to change the rules for them to be more competitive.
Why do we study history? To learn from our mistakes. Has MotoGP learned from their mistakes? NOPE! This sport doesn't need to worry about using sustainable fuels. It needs to worry about sustainable manufacturers. Why are manufacturers leaving? Because the cost of development is too much to sustain. How do you reduce the cost of development? STOP CHANGING THE REGULATIONS! All of the manufacturers now have to spend millions on developing a brand new motorcycle! All you had to do was slowly reduce aero regulations until we're back to zero aero. That would actually cut development costs because aero is crazy expensive. MOTO3 has proven that aero is a waste of time. Current Moto3 bikes are as fast as 500cc strokes back in the day. We don't need aero or new motors. We need racing. Stop adding more regulations!
But what about woke brownie points ???
@@pummyy I swear woke has no meaning anymore. Oh you don't like banana bread? Woke. Oh you love your mum? Stop being woke
@@yourfavouritenarcissist Exactly the sort of deflection you would expect from a woke narcissist 😅
@@altmaster3288 At least I'm self aware, does that make me woke?
@@yourfavouritenarcissist Has all the meaning in this context. The too much mention of sustainability is woke
Moto GP becoming more boring as restrictions go on. 🤬
still better than F1 I suppose
All new rules are a huge step back... like throwing away 5 years of evolution
Well, not watching MotoGP any more in 2027
Road relevant?? Isn’t that why WSBK exists? MotoGP should be the pinnacle of bike design, constantly pushing forward. Not worrying about bike sales in showrooms.
Best, fastest bikes unattainable by anyone, best riders on world tracks. No stoplights or woke rules.
Upgrade ❌
Downgrade✅
Basically what the lady wants to say is:
*Moto GP is fucked*
These regs are going to backfire just like F1 after 2009 aren’t they
They should have just introduced sustainable fuels without mucking around the engine displacement - 1000cc is MotoGP
I'd pull it back to 500cc
@@seanrooney8399 2 stroke yess
@@abdulazizfarhan4243nah, 850cc
@@seanrooney8399Nah
@@seanrooney8399it’s 2024, I like them too but I want immmovation, 850 cc is not good too
Well this sucks
So disappointed with the downgrades. Will be watching wsbk from now.
So wsbk will get faster than MotoGP....bruh
so basically they are nerfing the shit out of moto gp while making it shit and not even intresting? who brings these rules?
Probably Liberty media again, literally the reason why F1 heading this way... 🙄
@@noobscoopsies1100 Nope, it was decided by Dorna way back before liberty media buying it.
@@noobscoopsies1100 SHAKING MY FUCKIN HEAD🤦🏾♂
@@noobscoopsies1100 They've literally just bought MotoGP, these rules have nothing to do with them
Those who are infected with the "Thunberg" disease, manage to hold positions of influence and power in motorsports, just like all levels and forms of government...
So why don't switch to scooters.. that would have been so road relevant... This is ridiculous.. these are prototypes of racetrack motorbikes.. nothing is related to road... We will have 1200cc street legal bikes that everyone can buy... But the apex of motorbike racing made with medium displacement bikes... This is total nonsense
800cc scooters is fire.
The Bikes need to be faster not fuel efficient 👎👎👎
Race fans: We love MotoGP, it’s been absolutely incredible racing the last few seasons with wheel to wheel battles at 220mph!
Liberty media: Ok, let’s make the bikes cheaper and much slower but mOrE fUeL eFfIcIeNt
*2027 Yamaha will use the MT09 as its racing machine maybe* 😬
*MotoGP returned again in the 2008-2011 era* 🎉
*And I hope that throwing away all that Aero we will witness where a new era of the Fantastic Four is born* ✊🏽💥
@@MasPandan And that was some of the best racing ever.
Kinda an interesting concept maybe 🤔
Hahahaha
Blackrock's ESG score is the only thing that led to this. The world is blind.
Many industries are being effected by these ESG nonsense. It has to stop
A truly American Stupidity export
Best comment. Most unappreciated comment unfortunately.
Yo, you hit it right on the nail. Gotta please the woke investors.
You will own nothing, and you will be happy…. Eat zee boogz.
Wow, now that they have cut the number of engines from 7 to 6, I can finally afford a motogp bike!
Yamaha and Honda did this. They were pulling the plug without a fresh start. Now we get Moto2+
MotoGP must be 1000cc
Why
Moto gp should be 1000cc.
Why?
Where have I seen this before. Oh yea. MotoGP on four wheels about ten years ago.
This is going to be horrible. Slower bikes means lap records today are irrelevant? MotoGP going the wrong direction. So stupid.
welcome to f1'ing motogp, the end of an era
Making the bikes sustainable is a piss in the ocean compared to all the moto gp equipment that gets shipped around the world and all their private jets...
Agree! I hate the future MotoGP. I love the past MotoGP era. Please, someone! Build a time machine! I want to go back to watch MotoGP in the past era, i don't want to watch future MotoGP races!!!
lmao. great point
Unfortunately everyone is running scared of the Eco Warriors and their politicians, instead of pointing out the real facts, 22 bikes saving 1/2 gallon of fuel each, achieves nothing. They could wet the track surfaces and make them ride on greased slicks, that way they'd all fall at the first corner saving a whole lot of fuel, no qualifying needed if they all had a "participation trophy" and all got turns at pole position so no one has to feel left out.
*MotoGP is a prototype bike wym by "More road relevant"??? Isn't it what WSBK was supposed to? Are we gonna get road legal MotoGP bike??? Like wtf are you tryna to cook!?* 💀
How does more overtaking make it safer?? 1000cc to 800cc sh*tty seasons ahead!
Screw sustainability in motorsports. It’s just politics that’s unrelated to MotoGP that makes the sport worse.
True!
@tylerwebb4684 it starts with fuel, they won't stop there
F1 is already ruined, now Motogp is also going to be ruined.
Agree just like what they did with F1
@tylerwebb4684 It’s also limiting CC. But yeah in MotoGP it’s not that serious yet. We get to enjoy the sport for a decade more but moving to this direction will change MotoGP bikes to all electric bikes sooner than anyone would like. 850cc MotoGP bikes will still make a great amount of noise.
F1 died as a sport since the V6 because there is literally no comparison to how enjoyeable it is as a spectator when all V8, V10, V12 were allowed, to what it is like now. Not even the same sport.
I’m not happy about the rules I will watch until 2027 and then the sport will be dead 💀 to me.
Don’t You mean 2026?
No the rules go until the end of 2026. The new rule kick in in 2027
Then you’re not a fan, really are you
Real fans will wait and see, unless you have a superpower to see into the future
Are the people behind the regulations this disconnected form the actual fans? None of what was said makes sense and sounds like a bunch of PR nonsense
2050: Welcome to the Bicycle GP, now with new pedals, more sustainable than ever!
Bro spitting fax, because that's someting will happen's in future 😂😂
2051: to increase sustainability the amount of food a racer is allowed to eat will be reduced by 30%.
Ah shit the 800cc shit, watch them revert back to litre class after 3-4yrs
After losing fans
I bet they will take 4 years like the last time they tried to have 800cc
F1 rn with 1.6L engines: Hahaha, lol no.
@@kingnfs1 remove the turbo and ers and you're left with a shite engine. Dont compare that with Motogp engines
@@Lakshay70 I know that, but believe me the engineer will find a way to make the new engine as powerful as the 1000cc
You've just killed my interest.
As a long time fan I didn't like the previous 800 era. I don't want another.
The only reason 500 was compelling was they were 2 stroke.
Reducing engine capacity is dumb, might as well race 500cc then, road relevance, just plain stupid
Does anyone realize that the 2027 engine regulations will return to those of 2007? 🗿
I don’t agree with open gps data, if you can’t figure it out for yourself then you should t be there. We have been down to a similar range in cc before and it didn’t really stick, so not sure what will be different this time around
The data idea is hard to comprehend, but it will limit the advantage of the endless Ducati $$$$ and new A.I. they use.
@@MartinMcMartinlike yamaha and honda dont have unlimited $$$. Honda makes F1 engines and bankrolls part of a team
By making all GPS data public you can both:
# level the playing field, and help the struggling factories with slower bikes (that generally also tend to have less satellite teams with less talented riders and so less useful data on their own)
# milk it for content creation - you can make lots of cute gfx animations and tech analysis blah blah blah out of it.
I almost feel the latter was the main driver in Dorna's mind, with the former just a nice side effect =D
Open data is good
Best rider win
It's clearly a step towards Robot-AI pilots
We are going backwards. Especially open GPS data. Wtf? If you are not a good rider you shouldn't be in MotoGP class.. Only thing i agree is no more holeshot.
u are right but Ducati has 6 motorbike gps data and its too much, Yamaha and Honda cant compete with them
If you make better bikes you'll get more satellite team. Simple
Holeshot is awesome wonder it needs to be banned
@@seriouxsound4934 there should be a limit on satellite teams thats for sure
@MichaelMarvisya i feel it is better if rider has more control on launch. also lesser possibility of mechanical failures like maverick experienced.
Sustainable fuels should equate to bigger more powerful engines with double the fuel consumption!
Is this Liberty Media's doing? They seem to nerf the hell out of any competition in which they are involved. They'd rather just make it a spec series at this point.
Liberty media holds only the television rights🙄inform yourself before speaking. They dont decide technical regulation
The moment I heard mileage, I bloody lost it. I've been watching this sport for ages man. Mileage in racing? What are we doing here. Sincerely
Mileage is a factor in every Type of Motorsport, even in something like WEC that allows refueling.
To make the engines more reliable, less exotic
🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂ we must ban any kind of Aero, they "Slow down" The bike for safety reason but lower the gravity center and so make the bike faster in corner so more dangerous, it look like moto gp are in a contest with fia to find out who is gonna do the most stupid regulations
Take a shot every time they say "more sustainable".
from 2027 never watch motogp
I feel like this is a step backwards. 2026 will be the last year I'm a fan of MotoGP.
Even though 1000cc is good, it's just that damn Aero fairing that makes MotoGP unattractive because the motorbike is difficult to overtake. The audience just needs the action of overtaking.
@@variza17 so take aero away and keep the 1000cc.. like circa 2015 was great for a reason
Oh nooooo, tragic loss.
You're not needed here. The fan will always be a fan. No matter what!!
count me in i aint seeing that slow as shit we will look back at the races were marquez reached limits when in 2027 they will be riding slow as fuck
theyre crapping down our throats and calling it cupcakes
This sounds a lot like the regulations F1 rolled out a a couple years ago. Now all F1 talks about is the battles in the midfield.
Reducing top speed? Motogp 2037 will have all the riders race on horseback.
With only 255 of the 300 horsepower left no ride height devices etc how do they differ from WSBK?
Suzuki come on
They need to sort their financial issues first
@@literallyhuman5990 Yeah, i hope they do. Having the green ones back would also be nice.
@@nadanadanada7197 Kawa prefer WSBK because it's closer to their customer bikes, so don't get any hopes
@tylerwebb4684 maybe theyre pulling out to go to motogp, since the wsbk team will rebrand as Bimota
@tylerwebb4684 Kawasaki will be partnering with Bimota (Kawasaki Ninja ZX-10RR engine in a Bimota chassis) in WSBK
MotoGP : We're the pinnacle of motorcycle technology
Also MotoGP : 🤡
It's just the boomers who want to go back to motorcycles that had zero tech. The current state of motogp is brilliant - with the riders, and motorcycles pushing boundaries. Fastest ever lap times, extracting more power and efficiency out of Aerodynamics, ride height variations, and what not. Why is motogp hell bent on going into the past, is beyond my understanding. If people want vanilla bikes with lots of overtakes - you already have Moto2 and WSBK!
Can you relax the tire pressure rules and track run-off rules? I have a feeling 1000cc WSBK is coming to an end.
Suzuki says "let me show you my new GSXRR850" 😂
Road relevant. Its a prototype series, not road biased.
Prototypes are used for road development. Thats the whole point
850cc 😢
In addition to handing over GPS data and attempting to make the bikes all the same, considered dropping 1st, 2nd, and 3rd and just give all the riders participation trophies. OOH! and what about cookies at lunch and mandatory quiet times for naps in the paddock? I bet Honda and Yamaha are loving these new "rules."
Welcome BMW
Really?
Is not sure BMW will enter.
@@marfrandema1884 2027
With an 850cc four cylinder? I think not. At least not soon.(1)
But we will see new 850 cc four cylinder street sportbikes, bore 75 mm, stroke 48mm, from Aprilia, KTM and Ducati soon - to max out their sales to the general public (with bikes close to their moto gp bikes?).
1 - BMW currently may not have had a too good representation in the MotoGP regulations commission?
Who cares about a losing and irrelevant brand like BMW that loses in every competition they put in front of it...losers...
I would be gutted for less top speeds and less engine capacity. It looks like we are going backwards not in the future, I can understand the demise of rear ride height devices and those horrible wings. But sharing data to other manufacturers after races is also a very unfortunate decision.
They’ve already reached the limit of the tires and many tracks with current levels of power. Unusable excess power isn’t what makes racing good. Getting rid of shapeshifters and pulling back on aero will also put the emphasis back on the rider.
More power not good bro
@@guylr7390 that is why it is called motogp it is the pin ultimate racing the most powerful those who tame it are the elite of elite i ain watching this shit after 2026 it is going to look very shlow and shit
@@XAVIER-um7ie That remains to be seen as I believe the top speeds will only be down slightly because of the more restricted aero and the racing itself will be just as close. Was the racing bad when there was no exagerated aero or shape shifting and the bikes “only” made 250hp (less than 10 years ago)? Putting the emphasis back on rider performance will be just as GP as ever. If you saw the top riders of the 80s and 90s who raced with 190hp in person you probably know that already.
Prototype racing = research and development for manufacturers -> thats why it needs to be "road relevant". Its not dificult to understand
These various regulations, only one sentence for Dorna "MotoGP is only for Europeans"
Its greats 😂
Typical EU citizen 1:
"What are you going to do today?"
Typical EU citizen 2:
"I don't know, I haven't received my regulations yet."
Bring back the 500 two strokes, no wings, no electronics, mans racing.
Ogoga Buunga horse bad, stonewheel good
Two strokes? What do you think is this, 1987?
That's why we have moto3...go watch that
Moto3 are now lapping faster than 500s at jerez
Oh god here comes the Incel
RIP MotoGP... they are killing it just like they did with F1... that's not a woke sport... that's MotoGP! sad day in the history...
woke sport lmao
Agree 100%. Go woke go broke. So long Moto GP!
What people forget about MotoGP is, that, it is the ground to test one's prototypes against others, implement it on commercial bikes (homologated) and complete in a wide variety of races with Team Support. + *"THAT"* generates money for motorcycle brands. Winning is not always a priority, for riders it is, for brands, it's a testing ground for their stuff.
Moto gp decline starts after 2027
Agree! I hate the future MotoGP. I love the past MotoGP era. Please, someone! Build a time machine! I want to go back to watch MotoGP in the past era, i don't want to watch future MotoGP races!!!
Exactly 💯
@@MidNightREVoltthen don't watch, you won't be missed. Bye bye
literally
Motogp going popular again
900cc might have been acceptable.
850cc is just a form of super Moto2
from the year 2027, MotoGP 850cc, Moto2 765cc, Moto3 1300cc. 😂
They could not have picked a worse time to announce this... With lap records falling, and championship leaders coming from a variety of independent teams, this is the best racing that has ever been.
What are the fans getting from these changes? The vague promise of some terrible Kawssakis back on the grid? An opportunity for Honda to stop embarrassing Repsol?
Interestingly for Honda and Yamaha, they either have to pour millions into developing competitive machines quickly which will be obsolete in 2027, or just limp along at the back of the field until the regulation changes help level the playing field that they complacently let get away from them.
@@fiveowaf454seems like a them problem. Get better riders or make a better bike. Shouldn't have to nerf everyone bc some are bad
Well it took liberty media approximately one month to F1 my MotoGP. Slower bikes, smaller engines, less corner speed and slower launches. They’ve literally changed everything to make the bikes worse and to remove the years of engineering progress made by the teams. Why would we want smaller engines with slower top speeds? Who cares about fuel efficiency, it’s a race bike? Why drastically worsen the aerodynamics when the racing is incredibly close and exciting as it is now? Why remove the ride height devices when they help improve lap times, launches and straight line performance? Thanks for taking a big fat shit on my beloved sport. I hope someone who actually likes motorbike racing takes charge and throws out these ridiculous rules before they come into effect.
Liberty don’t set the regs and they changed every five years
Always have
Do you know anything about this sport
Time to go back to watching golf, billiards, and curling in 2027.
Lowering top speed = less braking = harder to overtake = bad crashes. How can you say SAFER? when you already had 800cc and it was a disaster, dangerous bikes.
Slower power is always safer
@@daytona765 definitely! "Starting from the year 2027, only the slowest riders get on the podium. The fast ones can go fvck themselves."
Yeah, sounds just about that.
Lowering top speed does not make it harder to overtake. Have you even watched Moto3? 😆
@@grandmasterj5they have the IQ of a 5 year old who thinks the more power you have the easier It is to overtake. This regulations will make bikes smaller, more agile and with less aero there will be less dirty air, which will lead to more overtakes. It is a nice change for me
@@grandmasterj5 If they want to transform motoGP into Moto3 it will become extremly dangerous.
Damn this reduction in the cubic capacity of the engines, that's a shot in the foot!
Why does everyone hate on the aero? I have 2024 BMW S1000RR with aero. I live in the midwest of the US. We get some nasty high wind gust here. My bike is definitely more stable at high speeds and during high cross winds and I now barely feel any turbulence from semi trucks compared to my old R1.
Suzuki
BMW
Triumph
Kawasaki
They all should comeback to MotoGP
BMW was in motogp?
Triumph its already on MotoGP, all engines from moto2 are 765cc from the Daytona Moto2 Edition.
@@TheLuckybeing exactly, I came to tell this point!!
✌️
Maybe add MV Agusta too
I know it's unrealistic but that brand has so much racing heritage it should be on the grid
@@Max-pi7ri Now that KTM owns the brands I would expect GasGas to turn into MV fairly soon.
If you’re using 100% sustainable fuel anyways, why the need for a smaller engine that ruins performance. Sustainable fuel already means the engine is “sustainable”. So 1000cc or 850cc doesn’t matter at that point. In fact you can even up the engine size and have more performance if it’s 100% sustainable fuel anyways. I would have loved to be in that room where these low level decisions were made
How exactly is Sustainable defined? Cost to produce the fuel "source to end product", or it has some corn alcohol in it? I'd bet the farm this fuel will cost a lot more to make (custom for MotoGP, used nowhere else). Ethanol fuels are a good case study: more energy is required to make it than you get back out, and you get a fuel that has less energy value than gasoline at a much higher cost/gallon. Good call on that one.... it's feel-good virtue signaling that unnecessarily costs more money for no net result.
But you’re not in that room because you’re not intelligent enough
You’re a lowlife typing on your keyboard like the rest of us👍
The holeshot and ride-height device tech is the main seperator to wsbk, why ban it? Might aswell let kawasaki use there bike as a wildcard at this point.
Seems like a backwards step that will encourage a very boring style of racing in comparison to the excellent racing we’ve had with the current and recent technical regulations. MotoGP has never really been about road relevancy. Pretty sure that’s why we have WSBK.
might as well call it SBK
AWFUL regulations.. but it could've been worst
Agree! I hate the future MotoGP. I love the past MotoGP era. Please, someone! Build a time machine! I want to go back to watch MotoGP in the past era, i don't want to watch future MotoGP races!!!
Nah, THIS IS BEST REGULATIONS 👌👍
@@Ariespradana13 You live in denial
@@marfrandema1884You're caveman
@@MidNightREVolt I agree with you that 1000 cc MotoGP is more interesting than 800 cc, it would be even more interesting if MotoGP was without Aero winglets and ECUs released from each manufacturer. without requiring the use of a Magneti Marelli ECU
If I am the factories I would abandon the category with this shitty regulation!
All the Factories have too agree to these rules
The amount of clueless fans on here is ridiculous
@@macsmith6216as clueless as you, apparently? Would you agree to a rule change with a proverbial gun to your head? Of course you would. But then again, perhaps you wouldn't, not sure your room temp IQ could compute.
Why are they even announcing this? We have to wait three years for 2027. Why announce this bad idea so early?
So the teams can develop their bikes
Do you think they design and built them overnight
no more holeshot and ride height device!
And?. What do you expect racing will get better
@@marfrandema1884 more safer and less technical issue *looking at you aprilia*
That’s the one aspect I’m glad about.
I agree with you that 1000 cc MotoGP is more interesting than 800 cc, it would be even more interesting if MotoGP was without Aero winglets and ECUs released from each manufacturer. without requiring the use of a Magneti Marelli ECU
yay let's go backwards!!