Toro Personal Pace is a dream setup. You walk faster, it goes faster. You stop, it stops. No levers to move. Best setup out there! Makes mowing a breeze! I've been using the same Toro Personal Pace mower since 2003! I have 0.9 acre of grass to mow.
haha i agree! im a little dissapointed in the reviews ive seen about the toro timemaster. i was looking forward to getting one for my lawncare business
I just bought a used Toro 22" recycler that has the front wheel drive. I didn't know what the difference would be between front or rear wheel drive, but I learned the hard way. If you are using the grass bag, you slowly loose traction as the bag fills up causing the weight to shift to the rear wheels and off the front wheels. You won't have this issue if you just use the side throw instead of the grass bag, but my grass was a bit tall (and wet) and I was leaving clumps along the way, so I decided to attach the bag. Very easy to start and a very nice cut as well. If I need to use the bag again, I may throw a couple of bricks on the front of the deck and see how that goes.
I've seen videos of old front wheel drive Craftsman mowers but have Tecumseh Engines mounted with the spark plug facing the operator in the gas tank in the front. Sometimes I wonder if that was a lousy attempts to improve traction.
The Hayter wind hands down. I've got one and it's 20 years old, looks the same as your reviewed one but leaves lovely lines and has a good pedigree with a beautiful feel. Not flashy but very English. Great and funny review.
Great video! Over here in the States the Timemaster now sports a new B&S 223cc engine. Now when the blades are engaged, the power does not drop at all.
Toro also owns Lawn-Boy. I'm American and anytime I see Toro product I always think Spanish too. The Toro Motor Company is founded on July 10, 1914 to build engines for the #1 brand of farm tractors in the United States - The Bull Tractor Company. The name “Toro” is chosen because of the company's association with Bull. Front wheel drive mowers are fine if your yard is fairly flat but people with hills generally prefer rear wheel drive. I have a front-wheel drive mower that has larger wheels in the back. Front wheel drive is almost always use I'm always like that America.
I live in the US, and love the older '80s and '90s aluminum deck Toros. The new models, sorry to say, will never again compare to the older models' quality. Looks like that Hayter is the last in line for substantially well-built consumer (or is it professional?) lawn mowers. Now, I want one too!
My Super Pro Recycler II (1994) has the Briggs & Stratton 5.5 hp Quantum engine. I also have a Suzuki VMG6-powered rear-bagger from 1988. From my personal experience, it is the best engine ever made for a mower.
That would be the 2-cycle Suzuki engine. I never had one, but I saw a video of one sitting out in the snow... Started right up! Those engines are highly sought-after. Great power-to-weight ratio... Great also for hills, as there is no oil pump to worry about going dry on a canted surface.
My dad was a mechanical engineer, and he said that the FWD mowers are easier to repair but don’t work so well on hilly ground. RWD mowers work better on hilly ground due to rearward weight transfer, but they are more difficult to work on and the drive systems are a bit more troublesome.
Okay, a British car journalist reviewing mowers! Wonderful! And, it covered relevant models! This is as good as media gets! I'd watch Jonny review, mowers as a video series. No doubt, I'd be into that. Jonny, we gotta get you on some larger land, so we can watch you test all the land management tools. What should I use to reseed a hectare of lawn? So much fun!
One other thing I forgot to mention, on the FWD version, you can adjust the cable to slow the transmission down and make it go at a pace you like and when going slower it will stay in a much steadier straight line, giving a nicer straight line pattern.
I saw this before deciding on a final purchase. I've always bought FWD thinking nothing about it. This time I decided to pay more money for personal pace RWD. I wanted AWD but alas I wanted today not in a week. The handle is the throttle so I can make the turns at the end of a run with ease. That seems to mimic the benefit of FWD but provide a bit of traction up hills. I have 1/3 acre or about 1350m^2. It's RIGHT at the edge of needing a small tractor. The Time Master would have been a good fit BUT it was over double the price at around $1000 USD. If I was going to spend that much I'd guy a ride on mower.
Toro Personal Pace model 20031. old school personal pace, tecumseh engine, electric start with bagger. man i have used my Toro for my yard and for my business for 10 years! only thing I've had to do is replace fuel lines, spark plug, and clean the carb and sharpen the blade. Toro makes amazing mowers.
Toro is an American company, however the common Toro Recycler both front and Rear wheel drive and the newer All wheel drive base models like those in the video are all assembled in Mexico of U.S. and globally sourced parts for the American market place now, so the Toro name is taking on more of a Latin influence you could say. Only high end Toro products are still made in Minnesota... The Toro Recycler is a very, very common mower over here, their are millions of them sold at every Home Depot all across this country, they are so common I must have found or been given over 100 of them that I have repaired and resold. The first generation of those Toro Recycler mowers had 195cc Tecumseh engine's, they started putting Briggs engine's on them in 2007 a year prior to Tecumseh going under. That new style deck first came out in 2009, the front wheel drive versions don't use Briggs anymore, they are putting on a cheaper Kohler Honda clone engine now, have since about 2011 on the front wheel drive models and they are very prone to fuel delivery issues. Also as of this year the Briggs Quantum 190cc L head engine has been phased out here in the USA, they are now using an OHV model Briggs engine and I can say without a doubt the Quantum was a much better design and was built better, lasted longer and are everywhere, they started making the Quantum in 1984 so it had a 34 year run, it was the most reliable, most common lawnmower engine ever built and sold in the United States of America and I would not doubt if that also includes the world and they were built here up until about 2008, now almost all Briggs sold and used here originates from China at their huge plant in Chongqing.
while I do agree with you about it being the cheapest, I also agree with the reason they gave him for why it's so popular. I love popping the front up and being able to pivot and go. I dont like how they no longer make a speed setting other than the grab bar, my older fwd had a speed selector on the side, put it at a certain speed and it was nice to walk behind. now my new one has one speed and feels like a brisk walk or its pulling you. never noticed the torque steer he mentioned but I've also had my fwd mowers for many years so maybe there is a learning curve
I'm not a fan of the height adjustments at each wheel but to each their own. I looked at the twin blade job and I couldn't justify the cost for an extra 7 inches of cutting width. I bought the front wheel drive one, and you're right it is skittish.
I've got a cruddy electric mower. The only redeeming feature is that you can lower it to a cutting height of 12mm. My mum also ran over our tortoise with a petrol mower about 20 years ago. He survived!
The pre variable speed Hayters are the best and still go strong. The best way to look at mowers is service items cost and breakdown parts, gear box repair etc. Honda gearbox repairs are really expensive as too are Toro with two to go wrong on the AWD and they do. Hayter newer models have their fair share of problems these days. 🤔
The joys of testing out stuff. You get a free one of your choice at the end of it. Well done Jonny. You make boring stuff exciting and funny too 👍 “Dog on lino” 😂
I could be wrong, but the engine on the Toro FWD and AWD in this video looks to be a traditional Briggs Quantum 12 ci 190cc engine. The front wheel drives here in the U.S had the Briggs 190cc on them for a time until they started putting the 163cc Kohler on, the RWD always had a 190cc Briggs here up until last year and the AWD in the US has a Briggs 163cc OHV check and add no oil change ever needed engine, but those all look like traditional L head 190cc Quantum Briggs engines in the video. Unless they made the blocks smaller on the L head Quantum format over their... Their using a 232cc OHV on the large 30" one over here now, their were complaints of bog down with the old 190cc which was on the 22"s until last year.
This is exactly the video i am looking to watch. Comparing the toror recycler and super recycler. If the superbrecycler is superior with cutting. Is the recyclers awd a winning feature
Torque steer you say? I just got a POS RWD mower that is literally rear wheel drive, not rear wheels drive. A single drive wheel. I hate that my family is so cheap but wastes money on garbage. It's less than useless mowing uphill with a side slope.
That Hayter was cool. Never heard of the brand before. Looks very English. I noticed that Toro has been using belt drives forever. Are they doing that to increase the blade speed? If so, smart idea. Lawnboy used to use a 2 cycle motor and ran at higher blade speed. Gave a great cut. Good video.
FYI don't tip the mower towards the carburetor when you tip the mower always keep the carburetor up and if you can run it out of gas or turn the gas off first if it's convenient
Front wheel drives are NOT popular with this American because they can't clime steep hills. I'v used rear wheel drive Toro 22 and 21 inch personal pace mowers for many years because they can clime much steeper hills then front wheel drives(from what I hear the 30 inch doesn't like hills). I think my next new mower will be the AWD Toro, it should clime walls!
John, good point, I don't think that they are popular, they are just 'pushed onto the consumer' because that is all one can buy at the 'big box' stores.
Thomas Gronek The FWD is not pushed, the big box stores, home depot specifically sells both the front and rear wheel drive models. They also sold the AWD version for 1 year at the big box store, to get the customer aware of them, so they would sell more of them. The so sold that stupid Timemaster model a couple years their too. Its not their this year, because the practical home owner really only needs a 22", if you need something bigger than that, might want to visit a dealer to see all your options, now you have to go to the dealer or online for the AWD. Their are two front wheel drive models, all 4 same size wheels, and the rear high wheel, specifically so you can keep the drive engaged and lift up turn around and keep going. Their are adcantages and disadvantages to front and rear wheel drive. Rear wheel have better traction on hills, front wheel drives can be lifted and are more maneuverable. If your mowing your lawn properly your supposed to go side to side anyway, not up and down, sometimed inclines cant be avoided, if you have lots of those on your land rear wheel drive is the way to go. No or very little inclines, front wheel drive is ample. Front wheel drive ones gave a little more trouble staying perfectly straight vs a rear wheel, front wheel drive versions, front wheels wear out much faster than a rear wheel drive. AWD is overkill. A rear wheel is more than plenty for hills. Also the AWD version has a smaller engine than the RWD, 163cc vs 190cc. So a less powerful engine to have to power the blade and two transmissions. The AWD has been found to be prone to problems, also more maintenance, parts and mo ey gave to go into an AWD. Two trans, two belt two worry about, the RWD is more than ample, AWD is overkill and is more of a ploy for mower companies to make more money selling them and on the back and on parts and service. They should have at the very least used a 190cc engine like the RWD on the AWD as well, less power to run another trans doesnt make any sense.
@@Mr_Tecumseh I dont agree with your "proper mowing" arguement. to properly mow you rotate which way you mow. I have it down to a 4 way rotation. starting from the same point each time; week 1, start mowing north to south, week 2 east to west, week 3 south to north, week 4 west to east. this is so your grass doesnt "learn" which way you are mowing and lay in that direction so it can grow a little longer before getting cut.
The AWD is a joke, a gimmick. Its no better than the rwd, except two trans, two belts and a smaller 163cc engine to power it all. More things to go wrong. They had it right with the RWD Toro, 1 Trans, 1 belt and a 190cc engine. I sell mowers, the one I was selling was an FWD, the guy said he could go get an AWD for a few bucks more. I laughed and said have fun, by now its probably broke down, commercial mowers don't use AWD, only thr residential mower, its a ploy for homeowners thinking I gotta get an AWD. The older RWD with the 190 will keep up with the AWD and cut better, more use of the larger engines power going to the blade, not two trans, its a joke.
i have zero interest in lawn mowers but i watched because Johnny is cool and engines are also cool. unless your radiator hose splits while you're on holiday in the north of Wales.. 20 y/o fords for ya.
Dude. Is the "Hayter" really a real mower. I love the British Racing Green and closed rear fenders. What to do about the name though. "Hayter. The mower that Hayts you."
The assembly of the lawn mower could be done without any problems th-cam.com/users/postUgkxTPN04aT-Qdjr_KS3ql7ng8wnU3wwsCqk also recommend I just puzzled something about the red strange “key”. However, it quickly turned out that this creates a kind of contact bridge between battery packs and lawn mowers. An additional backup as a father of a 1 year old nephew is great!! :-)
Nice video. I have a couple electric mowers myself. Even upgraded one of the batteries to 18650 cells .. mows way more on one charge now. Tesla knows what's up, that's for sure. I recommend ditching the bag and just mulching, unless you compost or something.... Check my channel for a couple mower vids if interested. Love your work man!
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My favorite one out of the four mowers I love is the recycler 22 with Front Wheel Drive by Toro
Toro Personal Pace is a dream setup. You walk faster, it goes faster. You stop, it stops. No levers to move. Best setup out there! Makes mowing a breeze! I've been using the same Toro Personal Pace mower since 2003! I have 0.9 acre of grass to mow.
Came to TH-cam today to learn about Toro mowers, did not expect to find an old CarPerv video. Thanks!
This was probably the best review i've ever seen!!! it was really funny to hear a perspective from someone outside of the usa, great work!!!
haha i agree! im a little dissapointed in the reviews ive seen about the toro timemaster. i was looking forward to getting one for my lawncare business
Great review Johnny and because of your comments we just ordered a Hayter push button start. Thanks again. Chris of Orpington
I just bought a used Toro 22" recycler that has the front wheel drive. I didn't know what the difference would be between front or rear wheel drive, but I learned the hard way. If you are using the grass bag, you slowly loose traction as the bag fills up causing the weight to shift to the rear wheels and off the front wheels. You won't have this issue if you just use the side throw instead of the grass bag, but my grass was a bit tall (and wet) and I was leaving clumps along the way, so I decided to attach the bag. Very easy to start and a very nice cut as well. If I need to use the bag again, I may throw a couple of bricks on the front of the deck and see how that goes.
I've seen videos of old front wheel drive Craftsman mowers but have Tecumseh Engines mounted with the spark plug facing the operator in the gas tank in the front. Sometimes I wonder if that was a lousy attempts to improve traction.
Fascinating video, it's a bit like a Harry's farm/Harry's garage combo. Makes me want to go and mow my lawn even though its 10pm on a Sunday and dark.
The Hayter wind hands down. I've got one and it's 20 years old, looks the same as your reviewed one but leaves lovely lines and has a good pedigree with a beautiful feel. Not flashy but very English. Great and funny review.
Great video! Over here in the States the Timemaster now sports a new B&S 223cc engine. Now when the blades are engaged, the power does not drop at all.
I have the 2nd mower tested. Ordered the FWD specifically so I can turn about face without it taking off.
Toro tipped the wrong way with oil filling up the carb. 😱 Great video.
i used to do that when i was young and didnt want to cut the grass lol place be white with smoke
great video👍🏻 beautiful British countryside out there. cheers from the states🍻
Toro also owns Lawn-Boy. I'm American and anytime I see Toro product I always think Spanish too.
The Toro Motor Company is founded on July 10, 1914 to build engines for the #1 brand of farm tractors in the United States - The Bull Tractor Company. The name “Toro” is chosen because of the company's association with Bull.
Front wheel drive mowers are fine if your yard is fairly flat but people with hills generally prefer rear wheel drive. I have a front-wheel drive mower that has larger wheels in the back. Front wheel drive is almost always use I'm always like that America.
I live in the US, and love the older '80s and '90s aluminum deck Toros. The new models, sorry to say, will never again compare to the older models' quality. Looks like that Hayter is the last in line for substantially well-built consumer (or is it professional?) lawn mowers. Now, I want one too!
My Super Pro Recycler II (1994) has the Briggs & Stratton 5.5 hp Quantum engine.
I also have a Suzuki VMG6-powered rear-bagger from 1988. From my personal experience, it is the best engine ever made for a mower.
That would be the 2-cycle Suzuki engine. I never had one, but I saw a video of one sitting out in the snow... Started right up! Those engines are highly sought-after. Great power-to-weight ratio... Great also for hills, as there is no oil pump to worry about going dry on a canted surface.
I Laughed so hard when I saw...a Lawnmower test😅 nice one Johnny.
Very different from what we used to
My dad was a mechanical engineer, and he said that the FWD mowers are easier to repair but don’t work so well on hilly ground. RWD mowers work better on hilly ground due to rearward weight transfer, but they are more difficult to work on and the drive systems are a bit more troublesome.
Okay, a British car journalist reviewing mowers! Wonderful! And, it covered relevant models! This is as good as media gets! I'd watch Jonny review, mowers as a video series. No doubt, I'd be into that. Jonny, we gotta get you on some larger land, so we can watch you test all the land management tools. What should I use to reseed a hectare of lawn? So much fun!
One other thing I forgot to mention, on the FWD version, you can adjust the cable to slow the transmission down and make it go at a pace you like and when going slower it will stay in a much steadier straight line, giving a nicer straight line pattern.
Great review, I used to have to spanner on lawnmowers for a living so brings back a lot of memories!
Thanks Jonny. Great video
I saw this before deciding on a final purchase. I've always bought FWD thinking nothing about it. This time I decided to pay more money for personal pace RWD. I wanted AWD but alas I wanted today not in a week. The handle is the throttle so I can make the turns at the end of a run with ease. That seems to mimic the benefit of FWD but provide a bit of traction up hills.
I have 1/3 acre or about 1350m^2. It's RIGHT at the edge of needing a small tractor. The Time Master would have been a good fit BUT it was over double the price at around $1000 USD. If I was going to spend that much I'd guy a ride on mower.
Lawnmower cold start haha
Never thought lawnmower review could be so enthralling. That for the practical review.
Toro Personal Pace model 20031. old school personal pace, tecumseh engine, electric start with bagger. man i have used my Toro for my yard and for my business for 10 years! only thing I've had to do is replace fuel lines, spark plug, and clean the carb and sharpen the blade. Toro makes amazing mowers.
Toro is an American company, however the common Toro Recycler both front and Rear wheel drive and the newer All wheel drive base models like those in the video are all assembled in Mexico of U.S. and globally sourced parts for the American market place now, so the Toro name is taking on more of a Latin influence you could say. Only high end Toro products are still made in Minnesota...
The Toro Recycler is a very, very common mower over here, their are millions of them sold at every Home Depot all across this country, they are so common I must have found or been given over 100 of them that I have repaired and resold. The first generation of those Toro Recycler mowers had 195cc Tecumseh engine's, they started putting Briggs engine's on them in 2007 a year prior to Tecumseh going under. That new style deck first came out in 2009, the front wheel drive versions don't use Briggs anymore, they are putting on a cheaper Kohler Honda clone engine now, have since about 2011 on the front wheel drive models and they are very prone to fuel delivery issues. Also as of this year the Briggs Quantum 190cc L head engine has been phased out here in the USA, they are now using an OHV model Briggs engine and I can say without a doubt the Quantum was a much better design and was built better, lasted longer and are everywhere, they started making the Quantum in 1984 so it had a 34 year run, it was the most reliable, most common lawnmower engine ever built and sold in the United States of America and I would not doubt if that also includes the world and they were built here up until about 2008, now almost all Briggs sold and used here originates from China at their huge plant in Chongqing.
Thank you for a splendid video, I love the Hayter...Beautiful. I am jealous, I wish they were available in the States.
Thomas Gronek you can, it’s branded as the Toro ProStripe
@@MrCooperman It's been uglified. It's hideous.
Of all the lawnmower review video's iv'e watched, this has to be the best! Alright, it's the only lawnmower review iv'e watched:-)
I really need a ride on review….
You should definitely review the Toro Super Recycler.
The Queens garden gets mown by a hater ... 😂
Hahahaha!
British mowing green 😂That Hayter is a lovely beast, I wish I could get one in the States.
Taylor Surratt you can now get the toro pro stripe which is basically a hayter as they are owned by hayter.
As a time master owner, a cool fact I can tell you is it can do burnouts. Remove about 1lb from the back (lift up a bit) the jab the throttle
If that Hayter mower was sold in America, it would cost $2,000.00. Its like the Rolls Royce of Lawn mowers. Beautiful machine !
Front wheel drive is only popular because it's the cheapest self-propelled optipn
while I do agree with you about it being the cheapest, I also agree with the reason they gave him for why it's so popular. I love popping the front up and being able to pivot and go. I dont like how they no longer make a speed setting other than the grab bar, my older fwd had a speed selector on the side, put it at a certain speed and it was nice to walk behind. now my new one has one speed and feels like a brisk walk or its pulling you. never noticed the torque steer he mentioned but I've also had my fwd mowers for many years so maybe there is a learning curve
I'm not a fan of the height adjustments at each wheel but to each their own. I looked at the twin blade job and I couldn't justify the cost for an extra 7 inches of cutting width. I bought the front wheel drive one, and you're right it is skittish.
I've got a cruddy electric mower. The only redeeming feature is that you can lower it to a cutting height of 12mm.
My mum also ran over our tortoise with a petrol mower about 20 years ago. He survived!
Is the tortoise still alive? Cannot believe it survived a mower attack.
Yep,he's still here, he lives with a limp and a big chip out of the top of his shell now! #Battlescar
Imagine if your mum had a mower set to 12mm ride height. 🐢🤔
Really enjoyed this video. I just bought a Honda HR 194 from 1983. Great machine.
I recognise the guitar music from Jon Peters Art and home channel
Honda HRs from the 90s are fabulous. My brother has one.
Dude, that twin blade Toro is over $1,000 bucks! For that money I'm buying a riding mower.
wr70beh in 🇬🇧 it’s a few quid over £1000
Sound track: Briggs and Straton 190 CC OHV
I didn’t know they sold Toro in Europe, thought they were an American exclusive
P. S Masport rotaroller are a good choice. I have used Masport in my grounds maintenance business and had great all round results. 👍
The pre variable speed Hayters are the best and still go strong. The best way to look at mowers is service items cost and breakdown parts, gear box repair etc. Honda gearbox repairs are really expensive as too are Toro with two to go wrong on the AWD and they do. Hayter newer models have their fair share of problems these days. 🤔
The joys of testing out stuff. You get a free one of your choice at the end of it. Well done Jonny. You make boring stuff exciting and funny too 👍
“Dog on lino” 😂
awesome comparison I've been lookin for a comparison like this
Yes I’m 14 and iv started mowing gardens but lawnmower has broke would love to get back in to it but not got the money right now 💚😢
I could be wrong, but the engine on the Toro FWD and AWD in this video looks to be a traditional Briggs Quantum 12 ci 190cc engine.
The front wheel drives here in the U.S had the Briggs 190cc on them for a time until they started putting the 163cc Kohler on, the RWD always had a 190cc Briggs here up until last year and the AWD in the US has a Briggs 163cc OHV check and add no oil change ever needed engine, but those all look like traditional L head 190cc Quantum Briggs engines in the video.
Unless they made the blocks smaller on the L head Quantum format over their...
Their using a 232cc OHV on the large 30" one over here now, their were complaints of bog down with the old 190cc which was on the 22"s until last year.
This is exactly the video i am looking to watch. Comparing the toror recycler and super recycler. If the superbrecycler is superior with cutting. Is the recyclers awd a winning feature
Torque steer you say? I just got a POS RWD mower that is literally rear wheel drive, not rear wheels drive. A single drive wheel. I hate that my family is so cheap but wastes money on garbage. It's less than useless mowing uphill with a side slope.
Toro also owns Exmark
Good choice on the hayter but expensive on some parts to do with the rear drive for your garden i would have gone with the timemaster
Looking frim the size of your yard the time master is the mower is one you need but it's your choice cheers mate
That Hayter was cool. Never heard of the brand before. Looks very English. I noticed that Toro has been using belt drives forever. Are they doing that to increase the blade speed? If so, smart idea. Lawnboy used to use a 2 cycle motor and ran at higher blade speed. Gave a great cut. Good video.
FYI don't tip the mower towards the carburetor when you tip the mower always keep the carburetor up and if you can run it out of gas or turn the gas off first if it's convenient
The hayter looks like a Group C Le Mans mower
Nice review. Toro Time Master Dual Force 1st Place.
The drive on my mower is broken, I used to be a bit of a pro too, front wheel drive is best, you can just tip up the front end when turning.
I have an older 22 inch Craftsman mower with front wheel drive and has the larger rear wheels.
"British lawnmowing green" made me LOL 🤣
This explains it......Why he is called a car pervert.
cheers gonna buy the quattro one saturday :)
I prefer RWD ones because it's much easier to turn.
Front wheel drives are NOT popular with this American because they can't clime steep hills. I'v used rear wheel drive Toro 22 and 21 inch personal pace mowers for many years because they can clime much steeper hills then front wheel drives(from what I hear the 30 inch doesn't like hills). I think my next new mower will be the AWD Toro, it should clime walls!
John, good point, I don't think that they are popular, they are just 'pushed onto the consumer' because that is all one can buy at the 'big box' stores.
John Ossendorf Yeah front wheel drive lawnmower suck on hills and they are just hard to keep a straight line with.
Thomas Gronek The FWD is not pushed, the big box stores, home depot specifically sells both the front and rear wheel drive models. They also sold the AWD version for 1 year at the big box store, to get the customer aware of them, so they would sell more of them. The so sold that stupid Timemaster model a couple years their too. Its not their this year, because the practical home owner really only needs a 22", if you need something bigger than that, might want to visit a dealer to see all your options, now you have to go to the dealer or online for the AWD.
Their are two front wheel drive models, all 4 same size wheels, and the rear high wheel, specifically so you can keep the drive engaged and lift up turn around and keep going.
Their are adcantages and disadvantages to front and rear wheel drive. Rear wheel have better traction on hills, front wheel drives can be lifted and are more maneuverable. If your mowing your lawn properly your supposed to go side to side anyway, not up and down, sometimed inclines cant be avoided, if you have lots of those on your land rear wheel drive is the way to go. No or very little inclines, front wheel drive is ample. Front wheel drive ones gave a little more trouble staying perfectly straight vs a rear wheel, front wheel drive versions, front wheels wear out much faster than a rear wheel drive.
AWD is overkill. A rear wheel is more than plenty for hills.
Also the AWD version has a smaller engine than the RWD, 163cc vs 190cc. So a less powerful engine to have to power the blade and two transmissions.
The AWD has been found to be prone to problems, also more maintenance, parts and mo ey gave to go into an AWD. Two trans, two belt two worry about, the RWD is more than ample, AWD is overkill and is more of a ploy for mower companies to make more money selling them and on the back and on parts and service.
They should have at the very least used a 190cc engine like the RWD on the AWD as well, less power to run another trans doesnt make any sense.
@@Mr_Tecumseh I dont agree with your "proper mowing" arguement. to properly mow you rotate which way you mow. I have it down to a 4 way rotation. starting from the same point each time; week 1, start mowing north to south, week 2 east to west, week 3 south to north, week 4 west to east. this is so your grass doesnt "learn" which way you are mowing and lay in that direction so it can grow a little longer before getting cut.
The AWD is a joke, a gimmick. Its no better than the rwd, except two trans, two belts and a smaller 163cc engine to power it all. More things to go wrong. They had it right with the RWD Toro, 1 Trans, 1 belt and a 190cc engine. I sell mowers, the one I was selling was an FWD, the guy said he could go get an AWD for a few bucks more. I laughed and said have fun, by now its probably broke down, commercial mowers don't use AWD, only thr residential mower, its a ploy for homeowners thinking I gotta get an AWD. The older RWD with the 190 will keep up with the AWD and cut better, more use of the larger engines power going to the blade, not two trans, its a joke.
I like the Toro fast mower
I am embracing middle age, thank you for this. I could told you the out come. John Deere are not bad.
you heard of that cheap mower.. it's called oh deer
Very funny jonny tks always wondered what type of lawnmower the queen uses!
Natural telly talent gets a like, let's have more vids please..
And a small ride on mower would be a good idea for that garden/back yard u dont need a tractor just a riding now er so like a 50 inch
good mower them Hayter friend as got a Hayter Harrier® 56
No electric alternative?
Great choice there. I've got the cheapest hater in the line up. But still love it. After all it conjures up a feeling of patriotism 😄
But if you are on budget, which one would you buy?
0:03 Who's here in the Year of The Rat, 2020 ?
One of my mowers is ride on the other is front wheel drive
hey man, nice vid!
i have zero interest in lawn mowers but i watched because Johnny is cool and engines are also cool.
unless your radiator hose splits while you're on holiday in the north of Wales.. 20 y/o fords for ya.
I'm not sure about a
Ford focus R. S lol, just you wait until that rear grass sack fills up, you'll be looking zero traction.
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Now throw a Honda in the mix to see what a true quality mower is like!
civic or accord?
I like the Hayter. Reminded me of a classic Morgan. I like that it’s powered by B&S.
Looks like a huge pain in the ass to purchase one in the states...just like a Morgan.
TroutFink you can buy the Hayter 56 roller mower in the US, it’s branded as the Toro ProStripe.
7:14 and that’s the engine flooded 😂.
Dude. Is the "Hayter" really a real mower. I love the British Racing Green and closed rear fenders. What to do about the name though. "Hayter. The mower that Hayts you."
Matthew .Plenert
Matthew .Plenert the gentlemen that founded the company was called Douglas Hayter. Hence the name Hayter. Best mower company. In the world
I never let off the power with a rear wheel drive
You should be able to change the speed on the fast one?!
You should have gone electric like the Ego Mowers!
never tip the mower carburetor side down. Oil can flow into the carburetor from the engine and cause a no-start condition.
Good review;
How did we know you'd like the stripes!
Which one did the Tortoise like?..... Great video.
Toro timemaster all the way
FYI Most folks Hate FWD mowers they are just cheaper
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The assembly of the lawn mower could be done without any problems th-cam.com/users/postUgkxTPN04aT-Qdjr_KS3ql7ng8wnU3wwsCqk also recommend I just puzzled something about the red strange “key”. However, it quickly turned out that this creates a kind of contact bridge between battery packs and lawn mowers. An additional backup as a father of a 1 year old nephew is great!! :-)
They all have soft catchers that would stop me from even looking to start with, they need hard catchers!!
A twin blade push mower isnt a new thing. Theres a video on youtube of an absolutely ancient twin blade electric mower
good choice
Oh, Briggs and Stratton WAS the better engine back in the 60's It's Honda or Kohler now.
omg fwd in a mower :) I'll accept an Astra GTE or a Fiat Coupe but come on, this is going to understeer so badly.
Nice video. I have a couple electric mowers myself. Even upgraded one of the batteries to 18650 cells .. mows way more on one charge now. Tesla knows what's up, that's for sure. I recommend ditching the bag and just mulching, unless you compost or something.... Check my channel for a couple mower vids if interested. Love your work man!
Should of had a Honda in the line up
Jonny. FFS I love your and Rich's vids but you need to make more stuff like this too. Come on now.
Could you please send me one of them mowers for my lawn business
so what you actually have is 4! toro's as hayter is owned by toro :p
Disappointed no Honda mower !
hey I subscribed to your channel make more new mowing videos for this year please
I will do my best Ed, thanks
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