I have an X1C and just built a V0.2 LDO kit. I also have a number of others going back to the first CR10. What i like about Bambu Labs is theyve made setting up and printing very simple and easy. Sure you can still tune the setting even more, but it prints very well out of the box. And that experience should not be discounted. The V0.2 took me between 10-20 hours, spanning 4 days, to build. I loved the experience of building it. But, I'm still tuning Klipper settings using Ellis Tuning Guide and other resources. If a beginner to 3d printing tried this, it would be beyond frustrating. I remember getting the CR10 and it not printing well for a long time while i researched and learned more. So, i think the market needed printers with a good out of the box printer experience.
@@timf7354 sorry I thought I answered you I totally agree with you, what I say in some comments. One is Apple and the other is Linux :D One is unpack and use, the other is DIY from scratch and you have to be used to this kind of thing otherwise it would disgust 3d printing. I think that for the most part who do a 90% voron (I'm not going to say 100% :D) are technicians, engineers, because they like technique more than printing itself :D but today if a beginner asks me what to choose, I tell him to take a bambu without hesitation
My thing is I don’t like a lot of proprietary parts. Nor do I like being ushered into using a cloud service. I hear Bambu is working on that, but cloud should be secondary. Closed network solution should really be the first option. A good bit of ppl just had their Bambu printers destroy themselves recently due to a cloud error where the printer ghost printed in the middle of the night. In many cases, over a print that was already on the bed. Huge fire and safety hazard. A lot of hot ends and gantrys were destroyed making for a real PITA repair situation for the user on a proprietary machine. Also, just the privacy of having all your files on your own machines in house rather than on a Chinese company’s cloud service.
I admit turning off my printers at night, I'm not the type to run the printers when I sleep, I'm not comfortable with the idea that it's running a problem happens so quickly, for example nylon that comes off and it continues to print and its starting to smell all over the room, we are not yet at the stage that it catches fire, but your better off than warrior, my printers work when I am present, otherwise they are off. for the non-opensource side, I have the vorons for that: p
This is the exact reason that I bailed out of my bambu X1 carbon order, was on the checkout page and wanted to make sure I could use it with regular print control software like octoprint or similar and found out it was all cloud based. immediately closed the screen and went back to printer shopping and ordered a voron kit instead
les deux, mais la difference réside dans la simplicité, bambulab, c'est si tu veux juste imprimer, voron si tu veux une imprimante regler aux petit ognions
@@bubuss3751 yeah, right. Voron is also more reliable. And better quality (not every voron, but good build 200%). Only one downside - you cant buy good Voron, only build it.
I have an X1C and just built a V0.2 LDO kit. I also have a number of others going back to the first CR10. What i like about Bambu Labs is theyve made setting up and printing very simple and easy. Sure you can still tune the setting even more, but it prints very well out of the box. And that experience should not be discounted.
The V0.2 took me between 10-20 hours, spanning 4 days, to build. I loved the experience of building it. But, I'm still tuning Klipper settings using Ellis Tuning Guide and other resources. If a beginner to 3d printing tried this, it would be beyond frustrating. I remember getting the CR10 and it not printing well for a long time while i researched and learned more. So, i think the market needed printers with a good out of the box printer experience.
By the way, love your V2.4s. That's probably my next build when budget allows.
@@timf7354 sorry I thought I answered you
I totally agree with you, what I say in some comments.
One is Apple and the other is Linux :D
One is unpack and use, the other is DIY from scratch and you have to be used to this kind of thing otherwise it would disgust 3d printing.
I think that for the most part who do a 90% voron (I'm not going to say 100% :D) are technicians, engineers, because they like technique more than printing itself :D
but today if a beginner asks me what to choose, I tell him to take a bambu without hesitation
beautiful machines
My thing is I don’t like a lot of proprietary parts. Nor do I like being ushered into using a cloud service. I hear Bambu is working on that, but cloud should be secondary. Closed network solution should really be the first option.
A good bit of ppl just had their Bambu printers destroy themselves recently due to a cloud error where the printer ghost printed in the middle of the night. In many cases, over a print that was already on the bed. Huge fire and safety hazard. A lot of hot ends and gantrys were destroyed making for a real PITA repair situation for the user on a proprietary machine.
Also, just the privacy of having all your files on your own machines in house rather than on a Chinese company’s cloud service.
i have disconnected the wifi board so no more problem with the cloud.
I admit turning off my printers at night, I'm not the type to run the printers when I sleep, I'm not comfortable with the idea that it's running a problem happens so quickly, for example nylon that comes off and it continues to print and its starting to smell all over the room, we are not yet at the stage that it catches fire, but your better off than warrior, my printers work when I am present, otherwise they are off.
for the non-opensource side, I have the vorons for that: p
This is the exact reason that I bailed out of my bambu X1 carbon order, was on the checkout page and wanted to make sure I could use it with regular print control software like octoprint or similar and found out it was all cloud based. immediately closed the screen and went back to printer shopping and ordered a voron kit instead
Vraiment impressionnant c'est voron .
Oh I like the display on the toolhead. What is it?
It's Btt Knomi
Simpa ton setup imprimante 3d 😉
salut la quel que tu préfere voron ou bambu lab
les deux, mais la difference réside dans la simplicité, bambulab, c'est si tu veux juste imprimer, voron si tu veux une imprimante regler aux petit ognions
@@simrtech3dles voron ont l'air plus discrètes ?
@@KLOPCBEN18 elle sont en effet beaucoup plus discrete, limite on peu dormir a coté :D
Good video on why not to get a Voron! They are slow and expensive literally! Great work!!!
Most definitely above your skill set.
Pleas shut tf up
My trident 300 beats the bamboo x1c in speed accell max flow cooling print quality and everything else
just LOL :-D bambu is even not close to the speed of good voron ;)
@@goodwinalex its not only about speed
@@bubuss3751 yeah, right. Voron is also more reliable. And better quality (not every voron, but good build 200%). Only one downside - you cant buy good Voron, only build it.