YES, THE 2019 BRONSON LIVES UP TO THE HYPE Agree- high speed this bike rips. It just says to you- go for it and don’t worry, I’ll take care of you. Disagree- it doesn’t do well over slow chunk. To me this bike is made for chunk- fast, slow and everything in between. That said, it pushes you to go faster and harder, that’s why it’s awesome. It does have some pedal kickback common to VPP bikes when you hit a high square edged rock while pedaling, but that’s the only drawback I could find so far and it’s less than the V2 model. Confused- are you saying that you don’t like stiff frames? Cause if you are you’re nucking futs. The stiffness of these new frames is what makes them so instantaneously receptive to every little rider input. And that’s what makes them awesome. Just dial in the suspension, it doesn’t take that long- it took me one ride of 45 minutes. Disagree- Front end lift- Never had it happen to me once yet. Not sure what you are talking about. And I ride steep gnarly ascents. Climbing- I have cleaned uphill rock gardens I have never cleaned before. And I have the R+ with no flip switch on the rear shock and don’t miss it. Disagree- Front end wander- I don’t have any of it. And I have an XL. You point it exactly where you want it to go and it goes and stays on line. Also, turning is so much easier and more fun with 27.5 compared to 29ers. OVERALL IMPRESSIONS- it’s not an EWS machine. Right. It’s not meant to be- that’s what the Nomad is for. Don’t knock it for not being something it’s not trying to be. You hit the nail on the head when you said it’s for weekend warriors (and let’s not use that like some sort of insult because, let’s face it, isn’t that what the vast majority of us are)- although I would say hard charging weekend warriors. This isn’t the bike if you just want to pedal around on the weekends on some local trails. This is the bike that you get if your weekends are spent going to the gnarliest trails you can find and hitting them as hard as possible to get the maximum fun out of them. And if you want to be able to do bike parks sometimes too, but then not feel completely overbiked and like you’re dragging an anchor with you when you are stuck riding your local tamer trails. Perhaps because the bike does it all without any drama- it’s quiet, is confidence inspiring, and will bail you out of mistakes, is why it doesn’t feel like it’s always awesome at what it’s doing. I don’t feel on this bike like I’m on the edge as much as on other bikes until I really start taking it up to, you know, 11. Some people like hitting that feeling at a lower level and you definitely won’t get that in this bike. On tamer stuff it’s just sort of like- yeah that’s nice. But I got this bike specifically for gnarly stuff and bigger trails at the bike parks- I want to take my riding to the next level as I had hit a plateau with my last bike and was just itching to go bigger but need to do it safely. But I don’t race and don’t want to lug around a true hardcore Enduro machine. The Bronson is the perfect match. It is, in a word- an allrounder- but for the ones who like to charge hard. PRICE- I got the R+ build- $4,300. Could ride it out of the box, although I put a 35mm Deity Copperhead Stem, Renthal Fatbar, Deity Knucklebuster Grips, and Deity TMac Pedals. Comes with a Yari Fork (a Lyric with less fiddly bits) and a NX Eagle drivetrain (completely functional and I won’t feel like I wasted an armored truckload of money when I replace it with the XTR 12 Speed in a year or two). AND EVERY TIME I GET ON IT IT MAKES ME FEEL LIKE: HELL F’ING YEAH!! Anyway, different spokes for different folks. Rock Hard, Ride Hard boys.
Thanks for the feedback! Again, bikes are pure personal preference. You love your Bronson and that's awesome! We both liked the bike, but there was nothing "exceptional" that stood out to us besides how well it pedals. We did not "bash" on the new Bronson, we simply were not as stoked on it as others. Which again is but a personal preference/opinion. In today's market where consumers view price as perceived value, Santa Cruz really pushes the limit on the price of these bikes. Given, we were riding the highest end build they offer, even at $4,300, a manufacturer direct brand can offer more "value" in what consumers receive. This was our biggest complaint, as that we anticipated our jaws to be dragging through the dirt from how insane the bike and components performed. We did not get that feeling, which again, personal opinion. As far as your comment about frame stiffness, you have to understand that I (Josh) am 125lbs, fully loaded down with gear and a backpack. A frame that is compliant for a 195lb rider may not work for me. I suppose you could count me as an outlier to Santa Cruz's target market, but that is enough to deter me from purchasing a bike like this. Now, the aluminum frame would most likely be a completely different story, as aluminum is far more prone to flex than carbon fiber. With more time to make suspension adjustments and really learn how the bike performs under every circumstance, I guarantee we would love the new Bronson. But at such a high price tag, I would rather save my hard earned cash and purchase a bike that I instantly click with and love within the first couple of hours on it. Our point is that we advise anyone interested in this bike to just give a try before buying. Buyers remorse is not a fun situation, and we try to dodge all of the marketing "mumbo-jumbo" that heavily surrounds the cycling world. The new Bronson is a great bike, it's absolutely beautiful, and Santa Cruz is a rad brand, but it was just not for us! Thanks for chiming in, we appreciate it! -Josh
Bikes and Beers i know you weren’t bashing, but some of the things you mentioned I have just never experienced and want viewers to be able to have that perspective. The one thing I was curious about was your comment about stiff frames. But given your weight that could be the reason for the differing opinions. I’m around 210 lbs without gear, and when you are a heavier rider you get way more flex out of aluminum or older carbon frames that you don’t get from these new super stiff frames. And why I Iove these new frames is because every input is so instantaneous. Pedal power goes directly to the wheel and shoots you out like a rocket, you can get directional changes and leans with just slight shifts of your weight through your hips, and landing is more controlled as the only rebound is the shock- I feel like the bike is an extension of my body as opposed to something I am controlling. Because of this they are actually less tiring for me, as they take less effort. I don’t find them jarring, but then again I grew up in the 80s and started mountain biking in 1990 with a fully rigid and then have been riding a hardtail since, so I’m probably more immune to any jarring anyway. Ive ridden a few of these new stiffer bikes- the Pivot Trail 429, the Bronson and the Scott Genius. They all have a similar frame feel. Best analogy is going from a Chevy to BMW. Spend a little more time with the suspension set up on these kind of bikes because I think you’ll be able to get rid of the jarring sensation on them, and if you do I think you’ll really like them- the other benefits from a stiff frame are really great. Re direct to consumer brands- there are definitely some great brands out there that will give you a better build kit for your buck. For me, I like, the Santa Cruz warranty, the LBS support (I don’t have the time or tools to do major work on my bike myself) and love love love the ability to demo the bikes locally whenever I want. So to me that’s worth the extra cash. Appreciate your honest review of the Bronson, so tired of a lot of the pro reviews that often just reiterate what the manufacturer says, but just want your viewers to have a different perspective. I still sub’d cause I like your stuff. More vids of you guys riding please tho!!! Ride on!
I’ve had mine for 9 months and I agree 100% especially the part about bailing you out of bad lines. Sometimes when charging I miss the best line, and it’s like, oh crap brace for impact, but then surprisingly very little or nothing happens.
I was looking at the carbon plus size version of this bike. Would you say it's a good first full suspension bike? I'm coming from a 100mm giant talon 2 hardtail.
Right on man! The new Bronson is a good bike, but it is definitely catered towards aggressive riders. The harder you ride it, the better it performs. That being said, for being your first full suspension bike, I would look at the aluminum frame over carbon. Aluminum is going to give you a more forgiving ride at a fraction of the price! Thanks for chiming in!
Haven't had the chance to ride an Altitude. Unfortunately we don't have any Rocky Mountain dealers in southern Oregon. If I get the chance to ride one I will definitely do a video!
Thanks for your impressions. I heard that more often now - that it feels too stiff. I am going to build one by myself I am going for the alloy version, I actually think it has advantages over the carbon and it is MUCH cheaper.
Ryan here, I'm definitely not sold in the carbon game just yet, not enough benefits for the price point yet! Send us your build on Instagram @thebikesandbeers and we'll shout you out! 🤘🚴🍻
Ben, I was waiting for someone to comment on that haha. That was the bike Ryan was riding, which was an XL frame. I was on a medium, but it was off camera.
It really is as though you guys maybe had to many beers and were not on V3 Bronson's. And one of you is a RockShox guy, that further explains this mystery.... haha... The suspension setup is critical on it. I run a 170mm 37mm offset GRIP2 36 on mine and the front is absolutely amazing after dialing it in. And in fact, even with the 170mm 36, the front lifts minimally when climbing, less than many 150mm forked bikes I ride. But I have my usual amount of headset spacers to keep it where it belongs (only 5mm below as I am 5'7). So, the rear....ohhh boy, first thing that need to be done is remove the SuperDeluxe and give it away or sell it and put an X2 on it! But...of course as always the X2 takes quite a bit of understanding and patience and diligence in setting up with 6 diff settings. But...when done, it is th most absolute amazing shock there is. I do have about 2 hours at least of suspension setup on mine, but now it is soooo perfect for all-around and importantly to me fast,rough & steep DH stuff. I have all the part#'s and instructions on installing the X2 if anyone needs. Lastly, I am NOT a Bronson guy, I am a guy that whatever bike is currently at that time the best suited for me. I do have about 6 brands that I do favor for various reasons.
Josh here - First off, thanks for chiming in! I've ridden the X2 multiple times and think it's a great shock. Extremely supple (given the correct setup) for an air shock. As far as your remarks to "having too many beers" and "dissing" on rockshox is purely subjective. If you pay attention to what we are actually saying, you will realize we never talk DOWN on the Bronson. We never said anything about DISLIKING the bike or it being a BAD bike. We simply state that there was nothing EXCEPTIONAL about the bike. And again, this is purely OPINION. What we feel may not translate to others. Being that I am in the marketing field as a profession, I like to be "that guy" and dissect through the strategies used by other marketing professionals. "200% lighter and 300% stiffer". Great! But how does that ACTUALLY translate to the bike responding in the real world? For us, the Bronson was a great bike, but not EXCEPTIONAL. At the price point of nearly $10k, I would have expected more from the bike. Again, our reviews are OPINION, and we make these so that the average consumer (such as ourselves) can have a better understanding of the bikes characteristics. We're not EWS racers, we're not Pinkbike editors, we're not sponsored by these bike manufacturers. We are everyday riders and racers at the regional level and have been around the bike scene since the late 90's. We appreciate you're feedback we hope you will come back for more videos🤘🏻
Thanks for the reply. I was just joking about the beers and RockShox. I have actually tried the Lyric 170mm on a V3 Bronson, and not too bad at all. Yes, the X2 takes time and patience for sure to get dialed in, but for me being a [passionate MX guy for 35 years, this is standard. Fyi, I have ZERO "brand loyalty" nor am I one of those "my bike is the best bike or component because it is what I have now" weirdo type. I buy what is the best right now for me and my riding. Period. Recently been on a Mach 6, SB6C, 2017 Tracer, HD4, and the old V2 Bronson. You know...you can get a good build Brosnon for $6K, aluminum wheels and XT or Guides, etc with Fox Performance Elite's that would perform very very well, and give a similar evaluation. Pretty much applies to all bikes, but I know you know this. Have you guys tried any of the above mentioned bikes? There are rumors of a new "HD5":) I LOVE the HD4! Just a tad steeper STA would be so perfect. Also, strong intel on an all new SC Hightower LT with the Bronson Linkage, longer, slacker, 160mm, and most needed with it was a steeper STA. Exciting stuff! Oh...the new Yeti SB150 and Scott Ransom Tuned (after swapping fork damper to GRIP2 and shock to X2) are awesome Long Travel 29ers!! Again, exciting times!
@@666ftf I would actually really like to try the aluminum Bronson, given that I am only 125lbs, and the cc frame was just overly stiff for my liking. Definitely felt good at high speed, but I think aluminum would just be slightly more compliant at lower speeds (for my weight that is). I've ridden the SB6, but none of the others you mentioned! I've heard GREAT things about the Ibis and I'm hoping to get my hands on one asap! The current reviews on the Ransom seem to be great, and I would love to give one a try! Unfortunately we do not have any Scott dealers in Southern Oregon, so it will have to wait until the summer when I can get somewhere to demo one. I'm about to do a long term review of my 2018 Commencal Meta AM V4.2, so stay tuned for that!
Good point Marty. We liked the bike, but it just wasn't as good as we anticipated. It was a great all around bike, but I didn't feel like it really excelled in a given area. My biggest issue is the price. We need second jobs to afford one haha!
Bikes and Beers yea they definitely gave you the Gucci model to test, the alloy version is about $3200 bucks. I did notice on mine that the Fox 36 seems to have the high speed damping a bit firm for my taste, I’m only running 65 psi in the fork and they call for 80 to 85 psi for my weight. Going to do a air burp of the fork today and make sure that isn’t the issue?
Nick Evans yea I think they got one like mine that had 3 volume spacers in the rear shock, I just took two of them out and I think it will make a huge difference on this bike.
I demo'd one a few months back and after 2 hours riding and faffing with setup i got it 70% right and it rode great. I think i liked how the suspension behaved in the high setting, bit firmer
Bradan Graney the V3 feels “ wooden “ it feels like a wooden frame , no feedback zero fun and it SUCKS AT CLIMBING OMG , ITS QUICKER TO WALK THE TRAIL , I don’t really know why it rides so bad , something is just not right about that bike , I had the Nomad N4 and it is still better than the V3 at climbing and it destroys the Bronson EVERYWHERE on the trails 👍🏽
YES, THE 2019 BRONSON LIVES UP TO THE HYPE
Agree- high speed this bike rips. It just says to you- go for it and don’t worry, I’ll take care of you.
Disagree- it doesn’t do well over slow chunk. To me this bike is made for chunk- fast, slow and everything in between. That said, it pushes you to go faster and harder, that’s why it’s awesome. It does have some pedal kickback common to VPP bikes when you hit a high square edged rock while pedaling, but that’s the only drawback I could find so far and it’s less than the V2 model.
Confused- are you saying that you don’t like stiff frames? Cause if you are you’re nucking futs. The stiffness of these new frames is what makes them so instantaneously receptive to every little rider input. And that’s what makes them awesome. Just dial in the suspension, it doesn’t take that long- it took me one ride of 45 minutes.
Disagree- Front end lift- Never had it happen to me once yet. Not sure what you are talking about. And I ride steep gnarly ascents.
Climbing- I have cleaned uphill rock gardens I have never cleaned before. And I have the R+ with no flip switch on the rear shock and don’t miss it.
Disagree- Front end wander- I don’t have any of it. And I have an XL. You point it exactly where you want it to go and it goes and stays on line. Also, turning is so much easier and more fun with 27.5 compared to 29ers.
OVERALL IMPRESSIONS- it’s not an EWS machine. Right. It’s not meant to be- that’s what the Nomad is for. Don’t knock it for not being something it’s not trying to be. You hit the nail on the head when you said it’s for weekend warriors (and let’s not use that like some sort of insult because, let’s face it, isn’t that what the vast majority of us are)- although I would say hard charging weekend warriors. This isn’t the bike if you just want to pedal around on the weekends on some local trails. This is the bike that you get if your weekends are spent going to the gnarliest trails you can find and hitting them as hard as possible to get the maximum fun out of them. And if you want to be able to do bike parks sometimes too, but then not feel completely overbiked and like you’re dragging an anchor with you when you are stuck riding your local tamer trails. Perhaps because the bike does it all without any drama- it’s quiet, is confidence inspiring, and will bail you out of mistakes, is why it doesn’t feel like it’s always awesome at what it’s doing. I don’t feel on this bike like I’m on the edge as much as on other bikes until I really start taking it up to, you know, 11. Some people like hitting that feeling at a lower level and you definitely won’t get that in this bike. On tamer stuff it’s just sort of like- yeah that’s nice. But I got this bike specifically for gnarly stuff and bigger trails at the bike parks- I want to take my riding to the next level as I had hit a plateau with my last bike and was just itching to go bigger but need to do it safely. But I don’t race and don’t want to lug around a true hardcore Enduro machine. The Bronson is the perfect match. It is, in a word- an allrounder- but for the ones who like to charge hard.
PRICE- I got the R+ build- $4,300. Could ride it out of the box, although I put a 35mm Deity Copperhead Stem, Renthal Fatbar, Deity Knucklebuster Grips, and Deity TMac
Pedals. Comes with a Yari Fork (a Lyric with less fiddly bits) and a NX Eagle drivetrain (completely functional and I won’t feel like I wasted an armored truckload of money when I replace it with the XTR 12 Speed in a year or two).
AND EVERY TIME I GET ON IT IT MAKES ME FEEL LIKE: HELL F’ING YEAH!!
Anyway, different spokes for different folks. Rock Hard, Ride Hard boys.
Thanks for the feedback! Again, bikes are pure personal preference. You love your Bronson and that's awesome! We both liked the bike, but there was nothing "exceptional" that stood out to us besides how well it pedals. We did not "bash" on the new Bronson, we simply were not as stoked on it as others. Which again is but a personal preference/opinion. In today's market where consumers view price as perceived value, Santa Cruz really pushes the limit on the price of these bikes. Given, we were riding the highest end build they offer, even at $4,300, a manufacturer direct brand can offer more "value" in what consumers receive. This was our biggest complaint, as that we anticipated our jaws to be dragging through the dirt from how insane the bike and components performed. We did not get that feeling, which again, personal opinion. As far as your comment about frame stiffness, you have to understand that I (Josh) am 125lbs, fully loaded down with gear and a backpack. A frame that is compliant for a 195lb rider may not work for me. I suppose you could count me as an outlier to Santa Cruz's target market, but that is enough to deter me from purchasing a bike like this. Now, the aluminum frame would most likely be a completely different story, as aluminum is far more prone to flex than carbon fiber. With more time to make suspension adjustments and really learn how the bike performs under every circumstance, I guarantee we would love the new Bronson. But at such a high price tag, I would rather save my hard earned cash and purchase a bike that I instantly click with and love within the first couple of hours on it. Our point is that we advise anyone interested in this bike to just give a try before buying. Buyers remorse is not a fun situation, and we try to dodge all of the marketing "mumbo-jumbo" that heavily surrounds the cycling world. The new Bronson is a great bike, it's absolutely beautiful, and Santa Cruz is a rad brand, but it was just not for us! Thanks for chiming in, we appreciate it! -Josh
Bikes and Beers i know you weren’t bashing, but some of the things you mentioned I have just never experienced and want viewers to be able to have that perspective.
The one thing I was curious about was your comment about stiff frames. But given your weight that could be the reason for the differing opinions. I’m around 210 lbs without gear, and when you are a heavier rider you get way more flex out of aluminum or older carbon frames that you don’t get from these new super stiff frames. And why I Iove these new frames is because every input is so instantaneous. Pedal power goes directly to the wheel and shoots you out like a rocket, you can get directional changes and leans with just slight shifts of your weight through your hips, and landing is more controlled as the only rebound is the shock- I feel like the bike is an extension of my body as opposed to something I am controlling. Because of this they are actually less tiring for me, as they take less effort. I don’t find them jarring, but then again I grew up in the 80s and started mountain biking in 1990 with a fully rigid and then have been riding a hardtail since, so I’m probably more immune to any jarring anyway. Ive ridden a few of these new stiffer bikes- the Pivot Trail 429, the Bronson and the Scott Genius. They all have a similar frame feel. Best analogy is going from a Chevy to BMW. Spend a little more time with the suspension set up on these kind of bikes because I think you’ll be able to get rid of the jarring sensation on them, and if you do I think you’ll really like them- the other benefits from a stiff frame are really great.
Re direct to consumer brands- there are definitely some great brands out there that will give you a better build kit for your buck. For me, I like, the Santa Cruz warranty, the LBS support (I don’t have the time or tools to do major work on my bike myself) and love love love the ability to demo the bikes locally whenever I want. So to me that’s worth the extra cash.
Appreciate your honest review of the Bronson, so tired of a lot of the pro reviews that often just reiterate what the manufacturer says, but just want your viewers to have a different perspective. I still sub’d cause I like your stuff. More vids of you guys riding please tho!!! Ride on!
I’ve had mine for 9 months and I agree 100% especially the part about bailing you out of bad lines. Sometimes when charging I miss the best line, and it’s like, oh crap brace for impact, but then surprisingly very little or nothing happens.
I was looking at the carbon plus size version of this bike. Would you say it's a good first full suspension bike? I'm coming from a 100mm giant talon 2 hardtail.
Right on man! The new Bronson is a good bike, but it is definitely catered towards aggressive riders. The harder you ride it, the better it performs. That being said, for being your first full suspension bike, I would look at the aluminum frame over carbon. Aluminum is going to give you a more forgiving ride at a fraction of the price! Thanks for chiming in!
Have you guys Demo’d the Rocky Mountain Altitude? I’d be curious to hear what you think of it especially compared to the Bronson.
Haven't had the chance to ride an Altitude. Unfortunately we don't have any Rocky Mountain dealers in southern Oregon. If I get the chance to ride one I will definitely do a video!
Great video
Thanks for your impressions. I heard that more often now - that it feels too stiff. I am going to build one by myself I am going for the alloy version, I actually think it has advantages over the carbon and it is MUCH cheaper.
Ryan here,
I'm definitely not sold in the carbon game just yet, not enough benefits for the price point yet! Send us your build on Instagram @thebikesandbeers and we'll shout you out! 🤘🚴🍻
@@BikesandBeers I will do that. I think many will be interested in a proper alloy build.
How is the alloy treating you? Im lookin into buying an alloy S build
Is that bike gigantic for him?
Ben, I was waiting for someone to comment on that haha. That was the bike Ryan was riding, which was an XL frame. I was on a medium, but it was off camera.
It really is as though you guys maybe had to many beers and were not on V3 Bronson's. And one of you is a RockShox guy, that further explains this mystery.... haha...
The suspension setup is critical on it. I run a 170mm 37mm offset GRIP2 36 on mine and the front is absolutely amazing after dialing it in. And in fact, even with the 170mm 36, the front lifts minimally when climbing, less than many 150mm forked bikes I ride. But I have my usual amount of headset spacers to keep it where it belongs (only 5mm below as I am 5'7).
So, the rear....ohhh boy, first thing that need to be done is remove the SuperDeluxe and give it away or sell it and put an X2 on it! But...of course as always the X2 takes quite a bit of understanding and patience and diligence in setting up with 6 diff settings. But...when done, it is th most absolute amazing shock there is. I do have about 2 hours at least of suspension setup on mine, but now it is soooo perfect for all-around and importantly to me fast,rough & steep DH stuff. I have all the part#'s and instructions on installing the X2 if anyone needs.
Lastly, I am NOT a Bronson guy, I am a guy that whatever bike is currently at that time the best suited for me. I do have about 6 brands that I do favor for various reasons.
Josh here - First off, thanks for chiming in! I've ridden the X2 multiple times and think it's a great shock. Extremely supple (given the correct setup) for an air shock. As far as your remarks to "having too many beers" and "dissing" on rockshox is purely subjective. If you pay attention to what we are actually saying, you will realize we never talk DOWN on the Bronson. We never said anything about DISLIKING the bike or it being a BAD bike. We simply state that there was nothing EXCEPTIONAL about the bike. And again, this is purely OPINION. What we feel may not translate to others. Being that I am in the marketing field as a profession, I like to be "that guy" and dissect through the strategies used by other marketing professionals. "200% lighter and 300% stiffer". Great! But how does that ACTUALLY translate to the bike responding in the real world? For us, the Bronson was a great bike, but not EXCEPTIONAL. At the price point of nearly $10k, I would have expected more from the bike. Again, our reviews are OPINION, and we make these so that the average consumer (such as ourselves) can have a better understanding of the bikes characteristics. We're not EWS racers, we're not Pinkbike editors, we're not sponsored by these bike manufacturers. We are everyday riders and racers at the regional level and have been around the bike scene since the late 90's. We appreciate you're feedback we hope you will come back for more videos🤘🏻
Thanks for the reply. I was just joking about the beers and RockShox. I have actually tried the Lyric 170mm on a V3 Bronson, and not too bad at all. Yes, the X2 takes time and patience for sure to get dialed in, but for me being a [passionate MX guy for 35 years, this is standard.
Fyi, I have ZERO "brand loyalty" nor am I one of those "my bike is the best bike or component because it is what I have now" weirdo type. I buy what is the best right now for me and my riding. Period. Recently been on a Mach 6, SB6C, 2017 Tracer, HD4, and the old V2 Bronson.
You know...you can get a good build Brosnon for $6K, aluminum wheels and XT or Guides, etc with Fox Performance Elite's that would perform very very well, and give a similar evaluation. Pretty much applies to all bikes, but I know you know this. Have you guys tried any of the above mentioned bikes? There are rumors of a new "HD5":) I LOVE the HD4! Just a tad steeper STA would be so perfect. Also, strong intel on an all new SC Hightower LT with the Bronson Linkage, longer, slacker, 160mm, and most needed with it was a steeper STA. Exciting stuff! Oh...the new Yeti SB150 and Scott Ransom Tuned (after swapping fork damper to GRIP2 and shock to X2) are awesome Long Travel 29ers!! Again, exciting times!
@@666ftf I would actually really like to try the aluminum Bronson, given that I am only 125lbs, and the cc frame was just overly stiff for my liking. Definitely felt good at high speed, but I think aluminum would just be slightly more compliant at lower speeds (for my weight that is). I've ridden the SB6, but none of the others you mentioned! I've heard GREAT things about the Ibis and I'm hoping to get my hands on one asap! The current reviews on the Ransom seem to be great, and I would love to give one a try! Unfortunately we do not have any Scott dealers in Southern Oregon, so it will have to wait until the summer when I can get somewhere to demo one. I'm about to do a long term review of my 2018 Commencal Meta AM V4.2, so stay tuned for that!
@@BikesandBeers Ahhhh, yes 125# is extremely light! I look forward to future reviews! Thanks
behind the backs is a much more interesting bike for enduro racing. and cheaper by more than 2 times.
Lower the stem and it won’t lift, bike absolutely rips and takes a bit of setup to get right.
Like they've reviewed a different bike
Good point Marty. We liked the bike, but it just wasn't as good as we anticipated. It was a great all around bike, but I didn't feel like it really excelled in a given area. My biggest issue is the price. We need second jobs to afford one haha!
Bikes and Beers yea they definitely gave you the Gucci model to test, the alloy version is about $3200 bucks. I did notice on mine that the Fox 36 seems to have the high speed damping a bit firm for my taste, I’m only running 65 psi in the fork and they call for 80 to 85 psi for my weight. Going to do a air burp of the fork today and make sure that isn’t the issue?
Nick Evans yea I think they got one like mine that had 3 volume spacers in the rear shock, I just took two of them out and I think it will make a huge difference on this bike.
I demo'd one a few months back and after 2 hours riding and faffing with setup i got it 70% right and it rode great. I think i liked how the suspension behaved in the high setting, bit firmer
It’s the worst bike I’ve ever demoed , awful bike
Bradan Graney it was a demo top spec , the bike sucks , I have a 2018 5010 it’s 1,000000000000000 times better than the V3 trust me
Bradan Graney no idea it was a demo I rode it it was crap so I got the 5010 👍🏾
Bradan Graney the V3 feels “ wooden “ it feels like a wooden frame , no feedback zero fun and it SUCKS AT CLIMBING OMG , ITS QUICKER TO WALK THE TRAIL , I don’t really know why it rides so bad , something is just not right about that bike , I had the Nomad N4 and it is still better than the V3 at climbing and it destroys the Bronson EVERYWHERE on the trails 👍🏽
I’m personally offended