South Africa Is Not In A Crisis Because Of Illegal Migration | Thabo Mbeki

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  • Former South Africa president, Thabo Mbeki is not convinced that South Africa's economic woes are caused by massive illegal immigration to the country. Thabo Mbeki reminds his audience why many Africans are coming to South Africa. He asks for a long-term fundamental solution like path to citizenship for the migrants. President Thabo Mbeki also says he does not believe South Africans are xenophobic.
    President Thabo Mbeki was having a conversation with the audience at the Senate Hall, in Winnie Madikizela-Mandela Building of the UNISA Muckleneuk Campus in Pretoria
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  • @africawebtv1
    @africawebtv1  13 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

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  • @Daseeker4895
    @Daseeker4895 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    South Africans are suffering from cognitive dissonance!

  • @pamelakhabo843
    @pamelakhabo843 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    Mbeki lives in an air-conditioned house,with security 24/7.Chaufer driven,doesn't live with the masses of the people. He is not the know it all of South Africans.

    • @gideongouvs5559
      @gideongouvs5559 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@pamelakhabo843 well no-one in the beloved ANC is the "know it all of South Africans" ----- NO-ONE . The only thing they know is decay/corruption/stealing/ incompetence/ chaos ---- they are directly responsible for the hatred and resentment amongst the masses

  • @precophox
    @precophox 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Thabo Mbeki is the 1 who invited all these uncivilized problems we are facing today.

    • @smartisaac5030
      @smartisaac5030 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@precophox you are lying,

    • @rampedimaffa
      @rampedimaffa 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @precophox exactly. You know, sometimes I don't understand this guy. He's so well educated, but his reasoning capacity is that of a small child. I prefer Moeletsi to this guy. Even Jacob Zuma, with his grade A education, understands the situation of South Africa better than him.

    • @KhikhiM
      @KhikhiM 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@precophox thank you point taken

    • @achisare
      @achisare วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@precophox can you explain how please

  • @drmaxwellspring9927
    @drmaxwellspring9927 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    After hearing this speech 🎤 I have nothing more to say. A father that understands the realities has spoken with the understanding and light that is satisfactory to any sincere listener🤔

  • @Divajulie
    @Divajulie 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    😂😂😂so now south Africans are insulting this one because he's speaking the truth?
    Wow,why am i not surprised.
    What did i expect?

    • @thabangtladi8057
      @thabangtladi8057 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      the truth of Africans ganging against poor black SAcn fighting them for their crumbs in their own country? let himn go talk the truth in Lagos and unite there and leave us alone in our xenophobic country simple as that

  • @faithMketo
    @faithMketo 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    I'm tired of all these politicians siesssssssss

  • @trevorgwesu1851
    @trevorgwesu1851 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    The man speaks facts not opinion..If u listen with your heart u can learn a lot

    • @rmanne7703
      @rmanne7703 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@trevorgwesu1851 no we do it with our ears...n òur brains think.

    • @ThelmaMuhammad
      @ThelmaMuhammad 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Remember the heart can be deceiving.If you speak with your heart you could be speaking out of anger,fear,basically protecting yourself and the interests of those in power.
      Do you know that most politicians make back door deals that have nothing's to do with the general public.Eg many South African politicians own shares in Congolese mines,that's why the war will never end,as more conflict,more looting for them.Its all about what interests them personally.Nigeria has oil,Nigerians have not helped South Africa with oil,yet they are full in our country selling drugs???Because the ELITE are part and parcel of the Whole Network of Drug Trafficking.All these syndicates they are part of the government agenda,did u know that.!!

  • @MichaelVumile-jb3lb
    @MichaelVumile-jb3lb 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    What happened to NEPAD?
    Illegal emigration can not be justified. People must here legally and obey SA law 🇿🇦💪🏿.

    • @richardkamya4566
      @richardkamya4566 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MichaelVumile-jb3lb ur a selective listener

  • @toxicgamer988
    @toxicgamer988 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Grey hair is wisdom thank you. ❤

    • @ThelmaMuhammad
      @ThelmaMuhammad 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Really does grey hair mean wisdom?I think there are so many people who say things just to be relevant.Mandelas generation just sold us out.We dont have the same privileges that they did.Remeber Thabo Mbeki studied overseas,he was not part of any struggle.They came back when things were good,as they had made deals for themselves(The Elite)The real people who struggled against apartheid were left to fend for themselves.Thats y even now the current ANC Government doesn't care about anyone but themselves and their own interests.Face the facts.

  • @thandekamngqibisa671
    @thandekamngqibisa671 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Remember this is the president that said HIV could be healed by eating beetroot. Today he says illegal foreigners are not part of the problem in SA, talk of living in space

    • @domingosmakuntima1537
      @domingosmakuntima1537 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      He's talking sense

    • @NomvuseleloNkomo
      @NomvuseleloNkomo 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Uyoze afe eyiphixiphixi nonsense

    • @BakerMills7
      @BakerMills7 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@domingosmakuntima1537👍

  • @lastbasvi1859
    @lastbasvi1859 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Former President Thabo Mbeki remains one of the most intelligent, intectual person South Africa has ever produced, I can listen to him the whole day.

    • @thabangtladi8057
      @thabangtladi8057 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Intelectual person that cant understand that SA can not solve the whorld's poverty problems 😅🤣

  • @SulaiAutoparts
    @SulaiAutoparts 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    Someone who is educated will only understand this gentleman❤

    • @tgods38
      @tgods38 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      That's so very true 💯💯💯

    • @thewarrenstv1166
      @thewarrenstv1166 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Indeed

    • @DavidPinanji
      @DavidPinanji 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Allways the truth pain thank you Mr President.

  • @bonifaccematiza7087
    @bonifaccematiza7087 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Thank you Mr President you ge t my respect you have wisdom,
    Respect a stranger you never know who will help you

    • @zisilemoyi2246
      @zisilemoyi2246 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@bonifaccematiza7087 argh fearmongering tactix

  • @willieteb7993
    @willieteb7993 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Some people are having chest pain because they don't want to hear the truth from the former President.

    • @thabangtladi8057
      @thabangtladi8057 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      the truth of being held hostage over migration crisis in the name of Ubuntu and fake one Africa 😅🤣? truth of running away from your crumbling countries and coming to SA to do crime and fight poor black SAcn for their crumbs in their own country and play victim?

  • @zdfmidmzezewa5730
    @zdfmidmzezewa5730 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Mr Thabo Mbeki he is right on point 🫷🏿✍🏿

  • @radelchromecast6084
    @radelchromecast6084 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    You leave in the burbs protected by your guards you get money from the state your children get everything for free

    • @moham.279
      @moham.279 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Because he served. If you serve, you get the same like him. Stop hating..

    • @nkopanemofokeng3469
      @nkopanemofokeng3469 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      He does not have any form of a child

    • @tundebakare6887
      @tundebakare6887 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Why can't you do the same so you get same benefits

  • @johnsimpemba-v3n
    @johnsimpemba-v3n 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Former president Thabo Mbeki is very much right in his assessment on immigration and the plight of the economy currently. His analysis on immigration and the economy is spot on.

  • @nonhlanhlasithole1393
    @nonhlanhlasithole1393 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    When people have decided to endorse an unsubstantiated view... They will oppose any thing to the contrary. I wish President Mbeki can be listened to without prejudice or preconceived ideas. I totally agree with him.

    • @zisilemoyi2246
      @zisilemoyi2246 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@nonhlanhlasithole1393 m xhosa myself Mbeki denialist of note sold out to Multi-nationals n Corporate South Africa period point blank end of story

    • @zisilemoyi2246
      @zisilemoyi2246 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@nonhlanhlasithole1393 Degenerating President Mbeki welcome to retirement village long overdue

    • @nonhlanhlasithole1393
      @nonhlanhlasithole1393 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@zisilemoyi2246 A generation that ignores and ridicule the wisdom of the old is nothing but a disaster waiting to explode. Imagine calling a library a retirement... Wisdom is indeed profitable to direct....this cannot be truer in our generation.

  • @dylanlangtonx-mansibanda7256
    @dylanlangtonx-mansibanda7256 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Atleast Mr Mbeki you speak the truth and you know very well the Major problem is not about foreigners, the whole African Continent is in trouble because of our Leaders who are greedy working in their pockets.
    In 2007 Mr Mbeki they called you to be a Mediator between ZANU pf and MDC but it's unfortunately Mr you didn't stand for the truth 😢😢😢 you stand with Mugabe that's why we are still in trouble untill now.
    There's no country without a foreigners because foreigners they are contributing in the economy, then those without proper documents the government must give them documents so that they easily to track them.

    • @thabangtladi8057
      @thabangtladi8057 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      UK, Canada etc are deporting foreigners but here in SA you telling us about how much foreigners contibutes to our economy 😅🤣

    • @phumlamazibuko3003
      @phumlamazibuko3003 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Anike niyokhuluma emazweni enu nilungise asisakwazi nokudla kahle naku niyabhuza impukane haibo

  • @mmeme5861
    @mmeme5861 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    There is nothing coming from Thabo's mouth will get to my head...People died of Aids......

    • @MusaAbednegoMfeka-xg5rn
      @MusaAbednegoMfeka-xg5rn 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I myself lost 3 of my family members through his ignorance

  • @kinglarry9825
    @kinglarry9825 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

    Those who was born yesterday won't like to hear the truth becoz instead their mind has been poisoned by other politicians for their own failure to lay blame on foreign national to gain more popularity in next election i wish Nelson Mandela was alive may his soul rest in peace ❤❤❤

  • @michaelbowes9894
    @michaelbowes9894 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Immigrants are the kind of people who have the energy and motivation to get up off their backsides and go to look for a better life. They often come with useful skills, and are abstemious and save their money, and come to work every day.

    • @mrsoshadabaadman
      @mrsoshadabaadman 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Their greatest value is cheap labour.

  • @lebohangmohapi8605
    @lebohangmohapi8605 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Mbeki is gaslighting the public here.

  • @SuperSparky1957
    @SuperSparky1957 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    All president should resign and then lead. Once they resign, they are awake. They are blind when they lead.

  • @davinhull7091
    @davinhull7091 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    He's not in contact with the reality. He must go to the rural areas and townships. He sits in his lovely and nice house in a safe area.

  • @phumlamazibuko3003
    @phumlamazibuko3003 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    We always remember this man for denying treatment to HIV n AIDS patients/infected

  • @VictorShongwe-eh3sc
    @VictorShongwe-eh3sc 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Mbeki speaks TRUTH. Pan-Africanism cannot flourish when the people who were victims of apartheid have never forgiven themselves since they still suffer subjugation

  • @draterlarebil4506
    @draterlarebil4506 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    This man was in denial over aids,when he realized that the people were dying in their thousands he opened the borders .

  • @Bridgette-nf7kf
    @Bridgette-nf7kf 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    U are a star there are a lot especially theft and corruption from government had brought our country down not foreigners well said Baba and we can't leave alone without neighbouring countries

  • @user-ij8by4ly6w
    @user-ij8by4ly6w 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    🎉 🎉🎉I love you 💕💕💕 the wise and intelligent man may you live long and prosper may God bless and protect you

  • @jezuschrist7120
    @jezuschrist7120 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    30 years of the the same tired excuses and stories from these old anc people ...nx ..doti zabantu

  • @GabrielRamothola-rn7od
    @GabrielRamothola-rn7od 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    All parlimentarians in south africa must attend state clinics and hospitals if they are sick

  • @fikilehlatshwayo210
    @fikilehlatshwayo210 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Thabo Mbeki please don't mislead people and encourage undocumented maybe your not affected. What laws if you are not illegal

    • @AugustineKasivila
      @AugustineKasivila 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You are not understanding his position. It's true foreigners have nothing to do with economic problems in SA. But only government policies and faures contributes to economic collapse.

    • @fikilehlatshwayo210
      @fikilehlatshwayo210 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@AugustineKasivila say what ever but undocumented they must live our country the economy won't grow we over populated and undocumented don't add value to our country

    • @MisheckMunoni
      @MisheckMunoni 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Investors are leave cz of economy and violence. Only the government can solve the economic fall. If we look to new currency we now using is not orgnl , it's bonds which means the falling of economy. Even if you chase them my dearest sisters and brothers without investors you wll never work.

    • @HappyHappy-p3y
      @HappyHappy-p3y 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      What are they taking from you

    • @bensonliffa2797
      @bensonliffa2797 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      So when the go are you going to be rich?

  • @fhatuone7566
    @fhatuone7566 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    He's the one who invited them through his Pan Afri ntoni ntoni ideologies now whole Africa is here to absorb the little we have

    • @FutBrix1096
      @FutBrix1096 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      They started this problem...

  • @VusumuziMthembu-mo7kx
    @VusumuziMthembu-mo7kx 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Why aren't you buying them your own land and stay with them there

  • @mkza2280
    @mkza2280 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    MR Mbheki is tired , he needs to stop talking politics and anything to do with current South African affairs let's just leave him to rest 😞

    • @mcdonald1821
      @mcdonald1821 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Its your mind that is too exhausted to handle the plain truth. Lol

  • @cmovum9637
    @cmovum9637 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Mbeki and other ANC bigwigs will deny that employment of foreigners instead of SAns contributes to the economic crisis because,
    Their personal business interests are in those affected countries like Zim, Nigeria and Moz.
    In essence at all level costs they are pleasing their business counterparts for more business opportunities on the other side

  • @obeyngorima4588
    @obeyngorima4588 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Mbeki is right 👍

    • @thabangtladi8057
      @thabangtladi8057 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      take him to nigeria

    • @obeyngorima4588
      @obeyngorima4588 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hahaha 😅😂 why are u saying so

  • @unbotheredmaverick7930
    @unbotheredmaverick7930 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    The same man who said there's no problems in Zimbabwe .

  • @Bvanyangu352
    @Bvanyangu352 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    People are being mislead by certain politicians. Mbeki is 200% right

    • @thabangtladi8057
      @thabangtladi8057 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      People are fighting for staying in SA and playing victim blaming SA politicians and not their own stupid selfish greed corrupt brutal hateful tribalistic dictators in their own countries

  • @Seeta_sa_gauta
    @Seeta_sa_gauta 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    He turns to be tone deaf in most issues.

  • @lelethud
    @lelethud 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    But Tata, you also said there is no crisis in Zim. look where we are!

    • @KhayaMkhize-p5l
      @KhayaMkhize-p5l 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He will amaze you this one!

    • @lelethud
      @lelethud 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@KhayaMkhize-p5l He runs for the word "crisis" he tends to run the opposite side of crisis hence he is able to ignore and deny the reality. Uyandimangaza shem

  • @maurylife
    @maurylife 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    This is the guy Nigerians must ask where their billions went to. He is the absolute beneficiary of it and his comrades

    • @dubemellit2932
      @dubemellit2932 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Your parents benefited that’s why they didn’t die of starvation, diseases etc

    • @maurylife
      @maurylife 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@dubemellit2932 your ignorance is astounding. Please enlighten me on how this money was funnelled into SA. Did Nigeria even have that much

    • @eomanga
      @eomanga 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @maurylife You seriously don't know that Nigerian civil servants used to be deducted a portion of their salaries for your cause?
      I'm glad our Kenyan government fully collaborated with Botha to keep you in chains. Our president elected to trade (both in intelligence and economics) with the apartheid government when the rest of Africa isolated you. To this day, our country is on the side of the West in exploiting Africa (including South Africa. Kenya doesn't want the mines and farms ownership to go to blacks!)

    • @mcdonald1821
      @mcdonald1821 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Those monies and Sacrifices will always speak against when you fight against Nigerians. Lol

    • @thabangtladi8057
      @thabangtladi8057 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@dubemellit2932 We only knew of HIV & AIDS after Mandela mixed us with you cursed nations

  • @biggiebig7602
    @biggiebig7602 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    This guy is becoming more and more irrelevant his ANC tripartite alliance regime turned this country from a developing one to a sh@#$thole

  • @ShedrackEfosa-ml6yg
    @ShedrackEfosa-ml6yg 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    A British man opened a party RP and wants to claim western cape that's Cape Town and y'all busy talking trash about Nigeria SMH 😂

    • @thabangtladi8057
      @thabangtladi8057 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      leave that to SAcn and go fix your crumbling countries

  • @MordecaiMashereni
    @MordecaiMashereni 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Mbeki belongs to the generation of leaders that is gradually dwindling. He is one of the few leaders who thinks beyond borders; he is selfless: an attribute that helped Africans to free themselves of colonialism.
    Now that we rid ourselves of colonialism, the enemy is one step ahead and is unleashing neocolonialism. Xenophobia is is one symptom of neocolonialism: dividing Africans and continue to control them. Nowadays, South Africa is the proxy of neocolonial forces and the enemy continues to hold on her so dearly.

    • @rmanne7703
      @rmanne7703 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MordecaiMashereni its not his country alone.2008 ask him about Zimbabwe.?

  • @khanyaiq1465
    @khanyaiq1465 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Who still takes this old man with dementia seriously

    • @muragegitari6052
      @muragegitari6052 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @khanyaiq1465 Your other four fingers of dementia are pointing at who?

    • @BoitumeloStephenPooe
      @BoitumeloStephenPooe 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@khanyaiq1465 my thoughts exactly Oldman should be on meds . Everyday he grows indecisive. 😂

    • @musamsane7311
      @musamsane7311 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You are right, he said he won't canvass for the ANC because it is corrupt, jiki-jiki he is on the campaign trail waffling to us to vote the rubbish ANC

  • @Mimi-zk8rq
    @Mimi-zk8rq วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Some of us locals have wonderful experiences with black foreigners and will continue to. So African and black American foreigners please know that we Pan African South Africans do exist in numbers and appreciate you being here. There's barely a country in the world where foreigners don't live nd work, even as maids. This immigrants story is happening in all major countries right now which proves it's a political tool.

  • @martinjulius5995
    @martinjulius5995 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    When you talk, you are only repeating what you already know. But if you listen, you may learn something new. (Mindset for greatness). Thank you, Mr. Mbeki.

  • @user-kn7bd1wy5t
    @user-kn7bd1wy5t 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Mr Thabo have you heard about cheap labor....

    • @Nathan41817
      @Nathan41817 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The economy is in trouble , that a trend in many countries! It is the truth. Black people are allergic to the truth!!
      The level of poverty in SA right now is crazy!!
      Entire families sleeping in parks, those are Afrikaans speaking families!!
      Adults schooled watching cars in small shops and malls parking to get two rands…
      People walking 5 km by foot after work…people have no food in townships… travel you will see that!!!!
      Foreigners have no money to pay tickets to go home, they would be better there!!!
      Now people are being brainwashed that foreigners took all the jobs and moneys!!
      There is a big deal of manipulation at an international level to cause KO
      Using internet and some superficial individuals in politics !!
      Why don’t white people complain?

  • @DjogoRedou
    @DjogoRedou 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    The foreigners also must respect the rules of the lands if south Africa gave u chance serve the country with loyallty

  • @MaxwellPenkese
    @MaxwellPenkese 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Mr Mbeki is lecturing Us a about Africanism. The Country needs Lecturing on socio economic. We need jobs for unemployed. We need water for health of our country. We need Electricity. We need crime free street. We need leaders who care for the sick and the poor. We are already in Africa. Please Mr Mbeki; You are ex President save us from these pressing issues.FIRST !

  • @kennedytsokodibane3058
    @kennedytsokodibane3058 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Mbeki needs to show us which South Africans have ever blamed foreigners for the state of our economy. Our communities are crying out because of the criminality by foreign criminals who have flooded our country. His sheltered & cocooned existence has blinded him to the realities of poor black people. He needs to shut up actually.

    • @BakerMills7
      @BakerMills7 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      When we'll you and your kind stop crying? You all need to start reasoning positively not backwards.

  • @hildadavids217
    @hildadavids217 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    When you are a politician, you are very privileged. You can't speak on behalf of the people on the ground, because you drive around with big BMW 's surrounded by body guards. You have no right to talk about people on the group, you are living of tax payer's money and are secured for life. You can talk as much as you like, we the people who voted for you are the ones who are suffering. Politicians are the most selfish people you can ever get. The voters must now start realizing that they are more powerful than they could ever have imagined. We can change over narrative by voting out corruption and anyone who doesn't listen to our concerns. Enough is enough. Immigration laws are applied in every other African country, but South Africans should not apply theirs. Is that how it works? We have had enough, if citizens get fed up, no one will stop them if they stand together and say enough is enough. We have not reached a stage where we can say as Africans we must come together. Maybe in another 100 years, but at this stage, we must think of ourselves and our future generations. President Mbeki please stop telling us what to do, with respect to you. 30 years is a long time that we as citizens have suffered under your ANC government.

    • @nozymabilu6527
      @nozymabilu6527 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      # politicians are selfish people 💯 say it all

  • @SamuelNgwana
    @SamuelNgwana 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Mbeki closed down teachers colleges.closed down nursing coolleges.closed down other universities here.Where is Vista,wits technician in Hillbrow,closed down factories in many areas

  • @willieteb7993
    @willieteb7993 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Malema gets insulted for saying the same thing as President Mbeki.

    • @thabangtladi8057
      @thabangtladi8057 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Mbeki and Malema must go and unite with these foreigners in Nigeria, South Africans are not holding anyone back from doing away with VISA's, remove refugee camps & bordersin their own countries remember?

  • @daviddzapasy8329
    @daviddzapasy8329 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    As for Zimbabwean people you failed them shame . You declared Zimbabwe a peaceful country in 2008 while people where tortured and murdered by security forces. You then declared elections free, credible and fair that's led to suffering of people and with frustrations some took wrong decisions and they immigrated illegally. A better africa for all lead to less illegal immigrants. It's just like sending someone back to Sudan 🇸🇩

  • @leonardkasimu5914
    @leonardkasimu5914 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Only few foreigners are working in public works but most are creating their own jobs so why don't just control them and allow them to have banks accounts and pay tax

  • @user-kn7bd1wy5t
    @user-kn7bd1wy5t 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    But back then they were not selling drugs, foreigners were behaving, laws and orders was prevailing then....

  • @thulambuli1779
    @thulambuli1779 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Foreign nationals avoid tax and don't pay it so that doesn't affect our economy?

    • @providekhoza-ux1ug
      @providekhoza-ux1ug 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @thulambuli1779 make them use legal banks so that they can betaxed

  • @leonardkasimu5914
    @leonardkasimu5914 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    It is true what this man says even if they go still south Africa will remain as it is

  • @sirjamesjemo3390
    @sirjamesjemo3390 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Those who can't cut it will blame it on others. If you're too lazy to work or have no marketable skills,don't complain and blame someone who is more capable and suited for the position in the company. Employers need skilled and willing people to further their goals,not people they need to keep on because they have no other choice. I worked for this company in Cape town where employees used to get together on weekends and walk out at 11hoo in the morning,don't come in on Saturday either because they say: it's a weekend and we must drink. Any day,they did this. The employer was miserable until they hired foreigners who are willing to work their full hours and shifts. That company has expended and opened more branches. You can't blame that company or the people who are willing to work.

    • @faithMketo
      @faithMketo 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @sirjamesjemo3390 speak like someone who comes from onother country desperate for anything he can get becoz they could not stand up and fight for their rights and heard in their country but when it comes to other you know too well, telling othet peoples country what to do why don't you fight fir the right in your country of origin, why ? Telling other people that are lazy, don't want t to work or we don't have skills, why don't you utilize your skills in tour when you think we are Dom, you are the Dom kop yaaaz nibanga isicefe njeee ngobe nikhumsha ambanokhumsha kwawenu amazwe, impress your leaders so that they can think about and start making changes not the other way round, nibanga isidina yhoooooo!!🙆🏻🙆🏻🙆🏻🙆🏻😵😵

    • @faithMketo
      @faithMketo 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Go fix your country it need to be fixed with your skills

    • @JohnMelane
      @JohnMelane 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes the weekend is for rest that's why we have this problem you can't work 12 months without rest

  • @shereenkader1781
    @shereenkader1781 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I disagree with this statement
    Illegal immigrants is a HUGE problem
    Our people can't get jobs🤲🏻
    The biggest workforce is unfortunately them
    Go around the China Malls and Illegal settlements that's them
    Yes corruption is a Huge problem to
    But we that's from SA built this country together
    Get rid of the Illegal migrants 💯

    • @leomtuwa120
      @leomtuwa120 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@shereenkader1781 I own a business that sticks from those mall and what I know is they get paid around R350 per week and works 6 days a week of hard labour. Most of us South Africans cannot do such

    • @IAMJEFFREY-cw9ns
      @IAMJEFFREY-cw9ns 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Nah, the problem is lazy black South africans😃 Black South Africans want handouts. Immigrants work hard and make no excuses. Immigrants aren't picky about jobs either. Black South Africans have poor work ethic. 12 million undocumented migrants live in the USA and they are the back bone of the US economy. Most of them are Mexican migrants. Stop blaming migrants for your own personal failures😉

    • @tundebakare6887
      @tundebakare6887 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@leomtuwa120 speak on Bro 👍

  • @MrSamAdah
    @MrSamAdah 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    As a Nigerian coming to live in Cape Town, beautiful country, I wish South African government successs in solving the country's issues and building more African alliances with an Africansm mindset and approach! Cheers and lovely speech from Mbeki!

    • @focus45554
      @focus45554 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MrSamAdah hopefully one day.

    • @monicamanzi8400
      @monicamanzi8400 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Please go home...we don't want u ppl here...please ppl y r u stubborn...

  • @mkhuselimazungula6345
    @mkhuselimazungula6345 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I love this guy so much, man. He speaks proudly of the African Nation. We need African Unity now just as we had it back then.

  • @khangaleanthonymakhado3083
    @khangaleanthonymakhado3083 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    If you have so much investment in foreign countries, you need to defend foreigners. We are not surprised.

  • @takuramangwana4749
    @takuramangwana4749 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I second you president Mbeki.Economic crisis is caused by corruption in African countries.If foreigners causes economic crisis,Why European countries and USA are the richest but there are the coutries recieving foreigner whole hartedly

    • @brideofchrist8295
      @brideofchrist8295 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@takuramangwana4749 Americans are complaining about the influx😊

    • @tundebakare6887
      @tundebakare6887 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@brideofchrist8295 are the citizens complaining

  • @peterbotha5152
    @peterbotha5152 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    He is a great statesman. World class wisdom. The likes of Nelson Mandela, HIM Haile Selasie, PLO Lumumba, Mugabe, Kwame Nkuruma, Koffi Annan, Julius Nyerere and not forgetting Julius Malema. This reasoning is deep and beyond the comprehension of ordinary leaders and tribesmen.

  • @Millionaire0576
    @Millionaire0576 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    What did you when you were in charge?

  • @theonly6359
    @theonly6359 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    We know that!!! Some of us are not disillusioned to believe that our problems stems from African foreigners.

    • @thabangtladi8057
      @thabangtladi8057 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Does the ver same foreignersunderstands that SA is not about their survival, SA is not an employment agency of Africa, SA does not owe them soft life and SA is not solution for their problems?

  • @ntombifikilebhengu4692
    @ntombifikilebhengu4692 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Wena wabulalisa abantu...haaibo ikwi crisis becoz of them wena awunangane..ezase makithi zibhema I winga ngenxa Yama foreigners..awusiyeke ngale Renaissance ebhedayo

  • @gxobinjasambemntungwa9694
    @gxobinjasambemntungwa9694 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Legend himself uThibos, 1of the best president we ever had..under his leadership people had jobs,the rand was strong we bought Amstel ngudu for R6.50 ama 2000 are buying it for R27,we bought Albany white bread for R6,we filled petrol for R6 a litre people were not fighting for crumbs..I respect this man ningakhuluma enikuthandayo impilo ibingcono under his leadership manje under 🐃 leadership we are suffering nomona is on another level angisayiphathike yobuthakathi...black people are fighting 1 another when uramasofa nabangane bakhe abamhlophe bentshontshi umnotho..bewusa phesheya

  • @LeoDiogni
    @LeoDiogni 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Cde.Thabo Mbheki..your word of wisdom is priceless..,until it'll be very late ..then many will realise how they retreated from Africanism to nationalism..something so destructive to our strong united Africa..

  • @user-kn7bd1wy5t
    @user-kn7bd1wy5t 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Being a former president doesn't mean that you know how locals feel about foreigners....

    • @saidinyoni2463
      @saidinyoni2463 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You can feel any how but that's reality Mr Rama posa is making a country down

    • @thabangtladi8057
      @thabangtladi8057 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@saidinyoni2463 let SA be down without being held hostage over migration crisis and carring Africa's burden

  • @tebogonaidoo6494
    @tebogonaidoo6494 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    We have helped them enough what else ufunani do you want them to rule south Africa yhoo you are confused baba

    • @suemoganedi9354
      @suemoganedi9354 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @tebogonaidoo6494 who and how did you help? Before we talk about what confusion is?

    • @Pepatara
      @Pepatara 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@tebogonaidoo6494 you are just a Big fool

    • @user-wp8mz8zo1f
      @user-wp8mz8zo1f 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If you are poor don't blem foreigners work up and go for looking for job

  • @musasakala1634
    @musasakala1634 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Malema said it before .if the country does not produce anything they will be no jobs .you creat jobs by producing things if u can't .then how can u creat jobs

    • @thabangtladi8057
      @thabangtladi8057 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Go do the same in your own countries simple as that?

    • @JohnMelane
      @JohnMelane 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      😂 good

  • @GabrielRamothola-rn7od
    @GabrielRamothola-rn7od 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Politicians children and grand children must attend public school.

  • @bensonliffa2797
    @bensonliffa2797 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Someone with sense

  • @humanity9158
    @humanity9158 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Challenge we face as Africa...is that our Governments have to invest in us i. E good Education, good skills for job creation, a prepared nation is problem half solved...Xenophobic comes out of frustration BUT is NOT the root of the problem NOR solution....besides Africa we need to UNITE or we shall face a second recolonization...don't think a Chinese loves you more...he will come to take over so we better focus on moving Africa forward as a People NOT divided!!

  • @tebogonaidoo6494
    @tebogonaidoo6494 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Weee Jesu umkhulu bantu uthini akayolala he's tired can't he see anc is going down the time is gone for you Baba

    • @jainendebele-fr5fp
      @jainendebele-fr5fp 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Shame the day you will start understanding it will be too late

    • @zisilemoyi2246
      @zisilemoyi2246 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Bought n sold out to Big business

  • @TsuSpier
    @TsuSpier 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    On point

  • @jcjohnson628
    @jcjohnson628 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Finally, a well-educated, learned, and experienced South African leader speaks!!! I pray xenophobic Black South Africans listen to him and retrace their steps.

  • @ericnqobilengwenya9460
    @ericnqobilengwenya9460 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Mbeki come and rescue us please 😊😊

  • @divinehealingprayers-apost8225
    @divinehealingprayers-apost8225 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I am very glad that ex president Mbeki, told the world the truth about South African politics, when he still alive. May others be brave and honest to speak out and correct their mistakes. A political decision to force a regime change in Zimbabwe is at the root cause of innocent lives being lost. Is this not unintended genocide? Yes South Africans are not Xenophobic but misguided and manipulated by politicians. Now how can this be fix? Only 3% of the 62 millions of the South African population is of foreign lands. How can such a minority be the cause of the fall of this great Nation? The same politicians are manipulating the masses again, distractions are created around the 3% minority for all the evils of the country. My prayers are for our rainbow country to rise again and be great again. God bless SA.

    • @olanrewajuhabeeb4692
      @olanrewajuhabeeb4692 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@divinehealingprayers-apost8225 You are intellectually sounds.

    • @tundebakare6887
      @tundebakare6887 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Hmmmm you're one of the honest South Africans

  • @smash860
    @smash860 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    You can never convince citizens that are living with those illegal foreigners that they are not problem in this country and you can never fix that problem if you cant see that problem

    • @thulambuli1779
      @thulambuli1779 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@smash860 They live in mansions and are not in direct with issues caused by foreigners, so he speaking from a place of privilege.

  • @AyandaPrince-n1u
    @AyandaPrince-n1u 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    He is missing the point,!! We had Mozambicans, Malawians, Zimbabweans and etc. Those people were peaceful and never stole or kill South Africans. The ones we have recently they steal kill South Africans and steal their cars, There are many stolen cars crossing beitbridge into Zimbabwe. His speech is one-sided. Does this mean as a former president he justifies their Acts.

    • @TsekoMofokeng-v2o
      @TsekoMofokeng-v2o 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      He knows but he wants to justify wrong things. Through out years illegal immigrants were forbidden. Foreigners from other countries were allowed through proper documentation. They were allowed for a good cause. Through out the whole world movement of people are regulated. Even when they were exiled,their movement were regulated. I have never seen people who love and like other nations than theirs like these before. Every time they speak,foreign nationals. They don't care about their own people around their own country. There is nothing wrong with Foreigners,they can come as quests but illegal immigrants are not welcomed that is the bottom line. ANC is government,they are messing up. They did know,they don't know what to do while in government,hence they resorted to stealing. Mbeki can talk whatever he likes,present crops of ANC enjoys stealing,ignorance and lawlessness. They don't care about ANC itself that is the culture prevail now.

    • @HenryMkoko-sx2yv
      @HenryMkoko-sx2yv 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Brother man criminality has no Nationality

  • @nobulawutwala2127
    @nobulawutwala2127 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Thabo Mbeki has a right to his opinion and we too have the right to our own opinion and perspective. He is frozen in time. Read the Room sir

  • @SovereigntyForPatriots
    @SovereigntyForPatriots 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Please President Thabo Mbeki, with all due respect. The Last 30 years
    of ANC rule has been, to say it mildly, disastrous. Your description of historical
    relations with other Africans on the continent is completely out of place and
    out of touch. Back then, in the good o'l days, did you have to deal with drugs and
    human and sex trafficking? No sir, I don't think so.
    Also, why did YOU allow Mugabe to continue to rule as a dictator? And then later,
    the ANC followed suit with the embrace of Mnangagwa another despot. The ANC attended
    his inauguration against the wishes of the many Zimbabwean citizens who are/were crying
    for their freedom. And, if you ask the citizens about how they feel about you and the rest
    of the ANC that continue to prop up their dictatorial governments they feel completely
    betrayed by you and the presidents that followed you.
    And that sir, is one of the reasons why millions of them are escaping into our country
    South Africa for better opportunities and a better life. You sir, how dare you say that
    illegal immigration has not impacted our country in so many bad ways that even the
    illegals are saying so. Where exactly are you living? Which country and which time?
    No sir, this is very, very disappointing. Please stop with your pointless speeches and
    retire with the last vestages of respect that I and many still have for you. Please go home.

    • @Qhawe_Jameson.
      @Qhawe_Jameson. 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You completely missed his point 😅😅 you blinded by afrophobia

    • @SovereigntyForPatriots
      @SovereigntyForPatriots 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Qhawe_Jameson. Ok. What was his point? lets see who is blind
      and who is hypocritical and self serving. And while you are at it, please explain
      how you support dictators and at the same time support the freedom of
      the citizens under those dictatorships across Africa. C'mon explain to me.
      Neophyte!!!

  • @waynehaydricks9268
    @waynehaydricks9268 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Illegal immigrants and refugees is 95% the results of unemployment and the taxes South Africa is the only country taxes is so high is cruelly to our people 😮

    • @takuramangwana4749
      @takuramangwana4749 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Only uneducated people who are xenophobic.Skilled and professions are lovingly

    • @tundebakare6887
      @tundebakare6887 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      So 3% foreigners contribute to the lack of jobs in sadAfrica 😂

  • @NzimaNdhlovu-ux8pj
    @NzimaNdhlovu-ux8pj 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Mr Mbeki the reason why you defend the foreigners is because most of you leaders you own big business in those countries and the only thing for you to tell us that the foreigners don't course any crisis in this country that lie. Thank you very much because the ANC is dying people of south africa realised that all of you politicians you are dirty

    • @charlesadeoye1404
      @charlesadeoye1404 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ony the black foreigners you care about lol. Not the millions of others from all over the world living in your country in better places than you, smelling all the good air and enjoying the beaches, rivers and animals 😂

  • @VictorShongwe-eh3sc
    @VictorShongwe-eh3sc 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Bantu education destroyed the south african blacks' affinity towards agriculture. It was designed to deprive blacks if technical ability to be outstanding entrepreneurs.

  • @jealousmuganda5709
    @jealousmuganda5709 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    When an economy is collapsing it has nothing to do with immigration. Time and time again leadership would have failed to invest in the economy but take take take until the economy gives in. ANC has not invested much onto the economy and management of the economy has not be done prudently. Corruption is the main root of economy collapse . E.g. money laundering # goldmafia these are major problems we have causing economic collapse

  • @identitysystems2726
    @identitysystems2726 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    What a leader!!!

  • @SmithJamesMalumalu-gj9sn
    @SmithJamesMalumalu-gj9sn 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Many black south africans will hate him and insults him bcz he said black foreigners from other African countries are not a problem for south african economy.

    • @baxolelemdzinwa827
      @baxolelemdzinwa827 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Firstly this guy never addressed the issues of this country when he was president, his first day at office he made "Gay being legal
      In Africa " what a joke mxm

  • @maxdetective9655
    @maxdetective9655 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Well said Mr former president, personally, I had similar question,,, how long will they depot them??? Coz every day they flock back like never b4. These issues are at continental level to be dealt, not South Africa a lone as country.

  • @lydiaramafoko8745
    @lydiaramafoko8745 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    No one asked for your opinion here bcos it does not concern you. You live a super high class life, how canbyou understand? You allowed this mess to happen and this is our country. Give awsy your security and pension and take taxi, uber like ordinary people and move to location first otherwise keep quiet. We have to sought out your mess.

    • @dmtriyevmarufu521
      @dmtriyevmarufu521 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@lydiaramafoko8745 so ignorant

    • @TsekoMofokeng-v2o
      @TsekoMofokeng-v2o 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      He has become motivational speaker after ANC was bought by DA.ANC lives on borrowed time.

    • @KhayaMkhize-p5l
      @KhayaMkhize-p5l 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      He is the source of all this mess, he's so comfortable living in a luxury mansion in the suburbs, still earning a government salary as a former President, he still has bodyguards around him paid by us taxpayers.

  • @clleensports7624
    @clleensports7624 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Former President Thabo Mbeki is a genius ,he uses more of his brains than emotions

    • @KhayaMkhize-p5l
      @KhayaMkhize-p5l 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Does he have a brain this old man? If he does he should be listening to his people's cries.

    • @JohnMelane
      @JohnMelane 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      To you

  • @anthonygurirab8268
    @anthonygurirab8268 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    HE SHOULD BLAME HIMSELF AS WELL. As FORMER PRESIDENT, HE SHOULD ACKNOWLEDGE AND ADMIT THAT HE IS PART OF THE ONES THAT BROUGHT SA TO WHERE HE SAY IT IS. THEN I WILL BELIEVE HIM.

  • @lithamakasi
    @lithamakasi 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    He adopted quiet diplomacy towards Mugabe when he was driving whites out of Zimbabwe . He is indifferent to the cries of our people regarding stolen opportunities. Mfcim