@precophox exactly. You know, sometimes I don't understand this guy. He's so well educated, but his reasoning capacity is that of a small child. I prefer Moeletsi to this guy. Even Jacob Zuma, with his grade A education, understands the situation of South Africa better than him.
Mbeki lives in an air-conditioned house,with security 24/7.Chaufer driven,doesn't live with the masses of the people. He is not the know it all of South Africans.
@@pamelakhabo843 well no-one in the beloved ANC is the "know it all of South Africans" ----- NO-ONE . The only thing they know is decay/corruption/stealing/ incompetence/ chaos ---- they are directly responsible for the hatred and resentment amongst the masses
Really does grey hair mean wisdom?I think there are so many people who say things just to be relevant.Mandelas generation just sold us out.We dont have the same privileges that they did.Remeber Thabo Mbeki studied overseas,he was not part of any struggle.They came back when things were good,as they had made deals for themselves(The Elite)The real people who struggled against apartheid were left to fend for themselves.Thats y even now the current ANC Government doesn't care about anyone but themselves and their own interests.Face the facts.
Remember the heart can be deceiving.If you speak with your heart you could be speaking out of anger,fear,basically protecting yourself and the interests of those in power. Do you know that most politicians make back door deals that have nothing's to do with the general public.Eg many South African politicians own shares in Congolese mines,that's why the war will never end,as more conflict,more looting for them.Its all about what interests them personally.Nigeria has oil,Nigerians have not helped South Africa with oil,yet they are full in our country selling drugs???Because the ELITE are part and parcel of the Whole Network of Drug Trafficking.All these syndicates they are part of the government agenda,did u know that.!!
U are a star there are a lot especially theft and corruption from government had brought our country down not foreigners well said Baba and we can't leave alone without neighbouring countries
Atleast Mr Mbeki you speak the truth and you know very well the Major problem is not about foreigners, the whole African Continent is in trouble because of our Leaders who are greedy working in their pockets. In 2007 Mr Mbeki they called you to be a Mediator between ZANU pf and MDC but it's unfortunately Mr you didn't stand for the truth 😢😢😢 you stand with Mugabe that's why we are still in trouble untill now. There's no country without a foreigners because foreigners they are contributing in the economy, then those without proper documents the government must give them documents so that they easily to track them.
When people have decided to endorse an unsubstantiated view... They will oppose any thing to the contrary. I wish President Mbeki can be listened to without prejudice or preconceived ideas. I totally agree with him.
@@zisilemoyi2246 A generation that ignores and ridicule the wisdom of the old is nothing but a disaster waiting to explode. Imagine calling a library a retirement... Wisdom is indeed profitable to direct....this cannot be truer in our generation.
After hearing this speech 🎤 I have nothing more to say. A father that understands the realities has spoken with the understanding and light that is satisfactory to any sincere listener🤔
Well said Mr former president, personally, I had similar question,,, how long will they depot them??? Coz every day they flock back like never b4. These issues are at continental level to be dealt, not South Africa a lone as country.
Mbeki speaks TRUTH. Pan-Africanism cannot flourish when the people who were victims of apartheid have never forgiven themselves since they still suffer subjugation
Cde.Thabo Mbheki..your word of wisdom is priceless..,until it'll be very late ..then many will realise how they retreated from Africanism to nationalism..something so destructive to our strong united Africa..
Mbeki and other ANC bigwigs will deny that employment of foreigners instead of SAns contributes to the economic crisis because, Their personal business interests are in those affected countries like Zim, Nigeria and Moz. In essence at all level costs they are pleasing their business counterparts for more business opportunities on the other side
When you talk, you are only repeating what you already know. But if you listen, you may learn something new. (Mindset for greatness). Thank you, Mr. Mbeki.
Former president Thabo Mbeki is very much right in his assessment on immigration and the plight of the economy currently. His analysis on immigration and the economy is spot on.
the truth of being held hostage over migration crisis in the name of Ubuntu and fake one Africa 😅🤣? truth of running away from your crumbling countries and coming to SA to do crime and fight poor black SAcn for their crumbs in their own country and play victim?
Immigrants are the kind of people who have the energy and motivation to get up off their backsides and go to look for a better life. They often come with useful skills, and are abstemious and save their money, and come to work every day.
Remember this is the president that said HIV could be healed by eating beetroot. Today he says illegal foreigners are not part of the problem in SA, talk of living in space
Mr Mbeki is lecturing Us a about Africanism. The Country needs Lecturing on socio economic. We need jobs for unemployed. We need water for health of our country. We need Electricity. We need crime free street. We need leaders who care for the sick and the poor. We are already in Africa. Please Mr Mbeki; You are ex President save us from these pressing issues.FIRST !
Only few foreigners are working in public works but most are creating their own jobs so why don't just control them and allow them to have banks accounts and pay tax
Wena wabulalisa abantu...haaibo ikwi crisis becoz of them wena awunangane..ezase makithi zibhema I winga ngenxa Yama foreigners..awusiyeke ngale Renaissance ebhedayo
Legend himself uThibos, 1of the best president we ever had..under his leadership people had jobs,the rand was strong we bought Amstel ngudu for R6.50 ama 2000 are buying it for R27,we bought Albany white bread for R6,we filled petrol for R6 a litre people were not fighting for crumbs..I respect this man ningakhuluma enikuthandayo impilo ibingcono under his leadership manje under 🐃 leadership we are suffering nomona is on another level angisayiphathike yobuthakathi...black people are fighting 1 another when uramasofa nabangane bakhe abamhlophe bentshontshi umnotho..bewusa phesheya
People are fighting for staying in SA and playing victim blaming SA politicians and not their own stupid selfish greed corrupt brutal hateful tribalistic dictators in their own countries
Mbeki belongs to the generation of leaders that is gradually dwindling. He is one of the few leaders who thinks beyond borders; he is selfless: an attribute that helped Africans to free themselves of colonialism. Now that we rid ourselves of colonialism, the enemy is one step ahead and is unleashing neocolonialism. Xenophobia is is one symptom of neocolonialism: dividing Africans and continue to control them. Nowadays, South Africa is the proxy of neocolonial forces and the enemy continues to hold on her so dearly.
As a Nigerian coming to live in Cape Town, beautiful country, I wish South African government successs in solving the country's issues and building more African alliances with an Africansm mindset and approach! Cheers and lovely speech from Mbeki!
@@KhayaMkhize-p5l He runs for the word "crisis" he tends to run the opposite side of crisis hence he is able to ignore and deny the reality. Uyandimangaza shem
Challenge we face as Africa...is that our Governments have to invest in us i. E good Education, good skills for job creation, a prepared nation is problem half solved...Xenophobic comes out of frustration BUT is NOT the root of the problem NOR solution....besides Africa we need to UNITE or we shall face a second recolonization...don't think a Chinese loves you more...he will come to take over so we better focus on moving Africa forward as a People NOT divided!!
When an economy is collapsing it has nothing to do with immigration. Time and time again leadership would have failed to invest in the economy but take take take until the economy gives in. ANC has not invested much onto the economy and management of the economy has not be done prudently. Corruption is the main root of economy collapse . E.g. money laundering # goldmafia these are major problems we have causing economic collapse
Mbeki closed down teachers colleges.closed down nursing coolleges.closed down other universities here.Where is Vista,wits technician in Hillbrow,closed down factories in many areas
I agree with Mr Mbeki he's been true here , you can't deport a Zimbabwean from South Africa's tomorrow this one coming back , I was at boders and saw can't tell story here help this country grown then peoples will stop coming in south africa
Does the ver same foreignersunderstands that SA is not about their survival, SA is not an employment agency of Africa, SA does not owe them soft life and SA is not solution for their problems?
I second you president Mbeki.Economic crisis is caused by corruption in African countries.If foreigners causes economic crisis,Why European countries and USA are the richest but there are the coutries recieving foreigner whole hartedly
Some of us locals have wonderful experiences with black foreigners and will continue to. So African and black American foreigners please know that we Pan African South Africans do exist in numbers and appreciate you being here. There's barely a country in the world where foreigners don't live nd work, even as maids. This immigrants story is happening in all major countries right now which proves it's a political tool.
Those who can't cut it will blame it on others. If you're too lazy to work or have no marketable skills,don't complain and blame someone who is more capable and suited for the position in the company. Employers need skilled and willing people to further their goals,not people they need to keep on because they have no other choice. I worked for this company in Cape town where employees used to get together on weekends and walk out at 11hoo in the morning,don't come in on Saturday either because they say: it's a weekend and we must drink. Any day,they did this. The employer was miserable until they hired foreigners who are willing to work their full hours and shifts. That company has expended and opened more branches. You can't blame that company or the people who are willing to work.
@sirjamesjemo3390 speak like someone who comes from onother country desperate for anything he can get becoz they could not stand up and fight for their rights and heard in their country but when it comes to other you know too well, telling othet peoples country what to do why don't you fight fir the right in your country of origin, why ? Telling other people that are lazy, don't want t to work or we don't have skills, why don't you utilize your skills in tour when you think we are Dom, you are the Dom kop yaaaz nibanga isicefe njeee ngobe nikhumsha ambanokhumsha kwawenu amazwe, impress your leaders so that they can think about and start making changes not the other way round, nibanga isidina yhoooooo!!🙆🏻🙆🏻🙆🏻🙆🏻😵😵
Hello everyone I hope you’re doing well In my thinking 💭, this fomer president hi was making clear, that the big problem is not only in South Africa 🇿🇦 is in the leadership of african country. The african country the have to stop corruption and develop then a country and given a jobs to then citizens, because if this not happen. South Africa government then can not stopping African to come to this country. And another ponto hi say that the use to deport before but in the following days the a back this is very true, life in are country is very difficult, this is the reason why we take a risk to come, is no Xinofobia or deport us then will stop us coming here, What I believe that can make a change is development of are countries, We take this risk coming just to put food in the table of are family, don’t criticise us guys please help us because we need your help. Thank you with love from Mozambique 🇲🇿
You are right, the problem is that frelimo keeps winning elections and no development is happening under their leadership. So why are Mozambicans still voting for people who are not improving their lives. You can see here in South Africa the anc is about to lose power because people are tired of being told lies and they are beginning to vote for other parties. Why is it not happening in Zimbabwe and Mozambique? In some of the Asian countries they kill corrupt politicians because they rob the poor.
The economy is in trouble , that a trend in many countries! It is the truth. Black people are allergic to the truth!! The level of poverty in SA right now is crazy!! Entire families sleeping in parks, those are Afrikaans speaking families!! Adults schooled watching cars in small shops and malls parking to get two rands… People walking 5 km by foot after work…people have no food in townships… travel you will see that!!!! Foreigners have no money to pay tickets to go home, they would be better there!!! Now people are being brainwashed that foreigners took all the jobs and moneys!! There is a big deal of manipulation at an international level to cause KO Using internet and some superficial individuals in politics !! Why don’t white people complain?
Sa is in trouble becouse of leaders who failed and are still failing to make decisions which will prioritize sa citizens, they are the once who failed to close our boders ,they failed to create employment and they failed to see that the uncontrollable boders will lead to this uncontrollable issue of illegal immigrants which strains our Healthcare our electricity and also make it impossible to for police to deal with crime.u spoke well and said they are visitors mr mbeki but visitors must behave nd know when they hv over stayed their time.
Thabo Mbeki implements Thatcherite policies that push for privatisation and privatisation causes decline in government capability and increases corruption. But he never ever admits that much. And that is a problem.
You are not understanding his position. It's true foreigners have nothing to do with economic problems in SA. But only government policies and faures contributes to economic collapse.
@@AugustineKasivila say what ever but undocumented they must live our country the economy won't grow we over populated and undocumented don't add value to our country
Investors are leave cz of economy and violence. Only the government can solve the economic fall. If we look to new currency we now using is not orgnl , it's bonds which means the falling of economy. Even if you chase them my dearest sisters and brothers without investors you wll never work.
HE SHOULD BLAME HIMSELF AS WELL. As FORMER PRESIDENT, HE SHOULD ACKNOWLEDGE AND ADMIT THAT HE IS PART OF THE ONES THAT BROUGHT SA TO WHERE HE SAY IT IS. THEN I WILL BELIEVE HIM.
@maurylife You seriously don't know that Nigerian civil servants used to be deducted a portion of their salaries for your cause? I'm glad our Kenyan government fully collaborated with Botha to keep you in chains. Our president elected to trade (both in intelligence and economics) with the apartheid government when the rest of Africa isolated you. To this day, our country is on the side of the West in exploiting Africa (including South Africa. Kenya doesn't want the mines and farms ownership to go to blacks!)
I am very glad that ex president Mbeki, told the world the truth about South African politics, when he still alive. May others be brave and honest to speak out and correct their mistakes. A political decision to force a regime change in Zimbabwe is at the root cause of innocent lives being lost. Is this not unintended genocide? Yes South Africans are not Xenophobic but misguided and manipulated by politicians. Now how can this be fix? Only 3% of the 62 millions of the South African population is of foreign lands. How can such a minority be the cause of the fall of this great Nation? The same politicians are manipulating the masses again, distractions are created around the 3% minority for all the evils of the country. My prayers are for our rainbow country to rise again and be great again. God bless SA.
Totally agree with the president. Doesn't matter how many electric fence you wil put you cannot stop African immigrants. South Africa still remains the most attractive destination for Africans. It's either its economy becomes unattractive or make African countries responsibility to pay towards South Africa. For example health,education African countries should contribute a lot to South Africa especially Zimbabwe and Nigeria. Also document every African. Have a shared database like we have in Europe. Nomatter where i am in Europe i will still be traced back to the UK why can't Africa do the same
@christobelthipe8627 Europe ain't South Africa. But the systems they have put in Europe if Africa implements them they will help South Africa. But with their current stance on migrants it will never work. Imagine how much is spent trying to stop immigrants who will stil come back the following day after deportation
He is a great statesman. World class wisdom. The likes of Nelson Mandela, HIM Haile Selasie, PLO Lumumba, Mugabe, Kwame Nkuruma, Koffi Annan, Julius Nyerere and not forgetting Julius Malema. This reasoning is deep and beyond the comprehension of ordinary leaders and tribesmen.
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South Africans are suffering from cognitive dissonance!
Thabo Mbeki is the 1 who invited all these uncivilized problems we are facing today.
@@precophox you are lying,
@precophox exactly. You know, sometimes I don't understand this guy. He's so well educated, but his reasoning capacity is that of a small child. I prefer Moeletsi to this guy. Even Jacob Zuma, with his grade A education, understands the situation of South Africa better than him.
@@precophox thank you point taken
@@precophox can you explain how please
I'm tired of all these politicians siesssssssss
Mbeki lives in an air-conditioned house,with security 24/7.Chaufer driven,doesn't live with the masses of the people. He is not the know it all of South Africans.
@@pamelakhabo843 well no-one in the beloved ANC is the "know it all of South Africans" ----- NO-ONE . The only thing they know is decay/corruption/stealing/ incompetence/ chaos ---- they are directly responsible for the hatred and resentment amongst the masses
Mr Mbeki is part of the people who created this foreigner problem we are having and he's still trying to protect himself
Grey hair is wisdom thank you. ❤
Really does grey hair mean wisdom?I think there are so many people who say things just to be relevant.Mandelas generation just sold us out.We dont have the same privileges that they did.Remeber Thabo Mbeki studied overseas,he was not part of any struggle.They came back when things were good,as they had made deals for themselves(The Elite)The real people who struggled against apartheid were left to fend for themselves.Thats y even now the current ANC Government doesn't care about anyone but themselves and their own interests.Face the facts.
Thank you Mr President you ge t my respect you have wisdom,
Respect a stranger you never know who will help you
@@bonifaccematiza7087 argh fearmongering tactix
The man speaks facts not opinion..If u listen with your heart u can learn a lot
@@trevorgwesu1851 no we do it with our ears...n òur brains think.
Remember the heart can be deceiving.If you speak with your heart you could be speaking out of anger,fear,basically protecting yourself and the interests of those in power.
Do you know that most politicians make back door deals that have nothing's to do with the general public.Eg many South African politicians own shares in Congolese mines,that's why the war will never end,as more conflict,more looting for them.Its all about what interests them personally.Nigeria has oil,Nigerians have not helped South Africa with oil,yet they are full in our country selling drugs???Because the ELITE are part and parcel of the Whole Network of Drug Trafficking.All these syndicates they are part of the government agenda,did u know that.!!
Mr Thabo Mbeki he is right on point 🫷🏿✍🏿
U are a star there are a lot especially theft and corruption from government had brought our country down not foreigners well said Baba and we can't leave alone without neighbouring countries
🎉 🎉🎉I love you 💕💕💕 the wise and intelligent man may you live long and prosper may God bless and protect you
Former President Thabo Mbeki remains one of the most intelligent, intectual person South Africa has ever produced, I can listen to him the whole day.
Intelectual person that cant understand that SA can not solve the whorld's poverty problems 😅🤣
I love this man very much
Atleast Mr Mbeki you speak the truth and you know very well the Major problem is not about foreigners, the whole African Continent is in trouble because of our Leaders who are greedy working in their pockets.
In 2007 Mr Mbeki they called you to be a Mediator between ZANU pf and MDC but it's unfortunately Mr you didn't stand for the truth 😢😢😢 you stand with Mugabe that's why we are still in trouble untill now.
There's no country without a foreigners because foreigners they are contributing in the economy, then those without proper documents the government must give them documents so that they easily to track them.
UK, Canada etc are deporting foreigners but here in SA you telling us about how much foreigners contibutes to our economy 😅🤣
Anike niyokhuluma emazweni enu nilungise asisakwazi nokudla kahle naku niyabhuza impukane haibo
When people have decided to endorse an unsubstantiated view... They will oppose any thing to the contrary. I wish President Mbeki can be listened to without prejudice or preconceived ideas. I totally agree with him.
@@nonhlanhlasithole1393 m xhosa myself Mbeki denialist of note sold out to Multi-nationals n Corporate South Africa period point blank end of story
@@nonhlanhlasithole1393 Degenerating President Mbeki welcome to retirement village long overdue
@@zisilemoyi2246 A generation that ignores and ridicule the wisdom of the old is nothing but a disaster waiting to explode. Imagine calling a library a retirement... Wisdom is indeed profitable to direct....this cannot be truer in our generation.
After hearing this speech 🎤 I have nothing more to say. A father that understands the realities has spoken with the understanding and light that is satisfactory to any sincere listener🤔
Well said Mr former president, personally, I had similar question,,, how long will they depot them??? Coz every day they flock back like never b4. These issues are at continental level to be dealt, not South Africa a lone as country.
He's the one who invited them through his Pan Afri ntoni ntoni ideologies now whole Africa is here to absorb the little we have
They started this problem...
What happened to NEPAD?
Illegal emigration can not be justified. People must here legally and obey SA law 🇿🇦💪🏿.
@@MichaelVumile-jb3lb ur a selective listener
Mbeki speaks TRUTH. Pan-Africanism cannot flourish when the people who were victims of apartheid have never forgiven themselves since they still suffer subjugation
Cde.Thabo Mbheki..your word of wisdom is priceless..,until it'll be very late ..then many will realise how they retreated from Africanism to nationalism..something so destructive to our strong united Africa..
All president should resign and then lead. Once they resign, they are awake. They are blind when they lead.
Mbeki and other ANC bigwigs will deny that employment of foreigners instead of SAns contributes to the economic crisis because,
Their personal business interests are in those affected countries like Zim, Nigeria and Moz.
In essence at all level costs they are pleasing their business counterparts for more business opportunities on the other side
When you talk, you are only repeating what you already know. But if you listen, you may learn something new. (Mindset for greatness). Thank you, Mr. Mbeki.
Former president Thabo Mbeki is very much right in his assessment on immigration and the plight of the economy currently. His analysis on immigration and the economy is spot on.
Some people are having chest pain because they don't want to hear the truth from the former President.
the truth of being held hostage over migration crisis in the name of Ubuntu and fake one Africa 😅🤣? truth of running away from your crumbling countries and coming to SA to do crime and fight poor black SAcn for their crumbs in their own country and play victim?
Immigrants are the kind of people who have the energy and motivation to get up off their backsides and go to look for a better life. They often come with useful skills, and are abstemious and save their money, and come to work every day.
Their greatest value is cheap labour.
Remember this is the president that said HIV could be healed by eating beetroot. Today he says illegal foreigners are not part of the problem in SA, talk of living in space
He's talking sense
Uyoze afe eyiphixiphixi nonsense
@@domingosmakuntima1537👍
There is nothing coming from Thabo's mouth will get to my head...People died of Aids......
I myself lost 3 of my family members through his ignorance
Because of the ANC government led by Nelson Mandela invited all of Africa for a better life in South Africa 🇿🇦
Legal foreigners we support.
Most of them are legal. After covid your government intentionally made them illegal.
With our tax monies
Someone who is educated will only understand this gentleman❤
That's so very true 💯💯💯
Indeed
Allways the truth pain thank you Mr President.
Mr Mbeki is lecturing Us a about Africanism. The Country needs Lecturing on socio economic. We need jobs for unemployed. We need water for health of our country. We need Electricity. We need crime free street. We need leaders who care for the sick and the poor. We are already in Africa. Please Mr Mbeki; You are ex President save us from these pressing issues.FIRST !
He's not in contact with the reality. He must go to the rural areas and townships. He sits in his lovely and nice house in a safe area.
Only few foreigners are working in public works but most are creating their own jobs so why don't just control them and allow them to have banks accounts and pay tax
They must create jobs in their countries
Why aren't you buying them your own land and stay with them there
Wena wabulalisa abantu...haaibo ikwi crisis becoz of them wena awunangane..ezase makithi zibhema I winga ngenxa Yama foreigners..awusiyeke ngale Renaissance ebhedayo
You leave in the burbs protected by your guards you get money from the state your children get everything for free
Because he served. If you serve, you get the same like him. Stop hating..
He does not have any form of a child
Why can't you do the same so you get same benefits
All parlimentarians in south africa must attend state clinics and hospitals if they are sick
We always remember this man for denying treatment to HIV n AIDS patients/infected
Mbeki is right 👍
take him to nigeria
Hahaha 😅😂 why are u saying so
The foreigners also must respect the rules of the lands if south Africa gave u chance serve the country with loyallty
I love this guy so much, man. He speaks proudly of the African Nation. We need African Unity now just as we had it back then.
Someone with sense
But back then they were not selling drugs, foreigners were behaving, laws and orders was prevailing then....
Legend himself uThibos, 1of the best president we ever had..under his leadership people had jobs,the rand was strong we bought Amstel ngudu for R6.50 ama 2000 are buying it for R27,we bought Albany white bread for R6,we filled petrol for R6 a litre people were not fighting for crumbs..I respect this man ningakhuluma enikuthandayo impilo ibingcono under his leadership manje under 🐃 leadership we are suffering nomona is on another level angisayiphathike yobuthakathi...black people are fighting 1 another when uramasofa nabangane bakhe abamhlophe bentshontshi umnotho..bewusa phesheya
On point
People are being mislead by certain politicians. Mbeki is 200% right
People are fighting for staying in SA and playing victim blaming SA politicians and not their own stupid selfish greed corrupt brutal hateful tribalistic dictators in their own countries
Mbeki belongs to the generation of leaders that is gradually dwindling. He is one of the few leaders who thinks beyond borders; he is selfless: an attribute that helped Africans to free themselves of colonialism.
Now that we rid ourselves of colonialism, the enemy is one step ahead and is unleashing neocolonialism. Xenophobia is is one symptom of neocolonialism: dividing Africans and continue to control them. Nowadays, South Africa is the proxy of neocolonial forces and the enemy continues to hold on her so dearly.
@@MordecaiMashereni its not his country alone.2008 ask him about Zimbabwe.?
Me personally I get sick and irritated to listen someone who had a better chance to correct the system but did nothing 😢
@@flaviusmalatji7060 true
As a Nigerian coming to live in Cape Town, beautiful country, I wish South African government successs in solving the country's issues and building more African alliances with an Africansm mindset and approach! Cheers and lovely speech from Mbeki!
@@CitizenEa hopefully one day.
Please go home...we don't want u ppl here...please ppl y r u stubborn...
So touched tata by true words from your heart. Truth hurts but builds.
@@EdgarMashiringwani-j3y hamba wena uyovoter kini nathi sivotile for our country...
@@monicamanzi8400 kuyafana haiko into izochinja ngivotile dear
The same man who said there's no problems in Zimbabwe .
Cause they were no problems
But Tata, you also said there is no crisis in Zim. look where we are!
He will amaze you this one!
@@KhayaMkhize-p5l He runs for the word "crisis" he tends to run the opposite side of crisis hence he is able to ignore and deny the reality. Uyandimangaza shem
If you have so much investment in foreign countries, you need to defend foreigners. We are not surprised.
Challenge we face as Africa...is that our Governments have to invest in us i. E good Education, good skills for job creation, a prepared nation is problem half solved...Xenophobic comes out of frustration BUT is NOT the root of the problem NOR solution....besides Africa we need to UNITE or we shall face a second recolonization...don't think a Chinese loves you more...he will come to take over so we better focus on moving Africa forward as a People NOT divided!!
Mbeki is gaslighting the public here.
Mr president u are very true God bless you abundantly and give you long live halllla baba mbeki
When an economy is collapsing it has nothing to do with immigration. Time and time again leadership would have failed to invest in the economy but take take take until the economy gives in. ANC has not invested much onto the economy and management of the economy has not be done prudently. Corruption is the main root of economy collapse . E.g. money laundering # goldmafia these are major problems we have causing economic collapse
Mbeki closed down teachers colleges.closed down nursing coolleges.closed down other universities here.Where is Vista,wits technician in Hillbrow,closed down factories in many areas
I agree with Mr Mbeki he's been true here , you can't deport a Zimbabwean from South Africa's tomorrow this one coming back , I was at boders and saw can't tell story here help this country grown then peoples will stop coming in south africa
What a leader!!!
Weee Jesu umkhulu bantu uthini akayolala he's tired can't he see anc is going down the time is gone for you Baba
Shame the day you will start understanding it will be too late
Bought n sold out to Big business
What did you when you were in charge?
Well said. The issues resonates around governance and leadership
@@tamarikwekweza5882 I'm pleased that you're accepting that we're in crisis
30 years of the the same tired excuses and stories from these old anc people ...nx ..doti zabantu
He turns to be tone deaf in most issues.
We know that!!! Some of us are not disillusioned to believe that our problems stems from African foreigners.
Does the ver same foreignersunderstands that SA is not about their survival, SA is not an employment agency of Africa, SA does not owe them soft life and SA is not solution for their problems?
I second you president Mbeki.Economic crisis is caused by corruption in African countries.If foreigners causes economic crisis,Why European countries and USA are the richest but there are the coutries recieving foreigner whole hartedly
@@takuramangwana4749 Americans are complaining about the influx😊
@@brideofchrist8295 are the citizens complaining
Talking the truth baba thank you
100% i agree with this man🎉
Some of us locals have wonderful experiences with black foreigners and will continue to. So African and black American foreigners please know that we Pan African South Africans do exist in numbers and appreciate you being here. There's barely a country in the world where foreigners don't live nd work, even as maids. This immigrants story is happening in all major countries right now which proves it's a political tool.
Those who can't cut it will blame it on others. If you're too lazy to work or have no marketable skills,don't complain and blame someone who is more capable and suited for the position in the company. Employers need skilled and willing people to further their goals,not people they need to keep on because they have no other choice. I worked for this company in Cape town where employees used to get together on weekends and walk out at 11hoo in the morning,don't come in on Saturday either because they say: it's a weekend and we must drink. Any day,they did this. The employer was miserable until they hired foreigners who are willing to work their full hours and shifts. That company has expended and opened more branches. You can't blame that company or the people who are willing to work.
@sirjamesjemo3390 speak like someone who comes from onother country desperate for anything he can get becoz they could not stand up and fight for their rights and heard in their country but when it comes to other you know too well, telling othet peoples country what to do why don't you fight fir the right in your country of origin, why ? Telling other people that are lazy, don't want t to work or we don't have skills, why don't you utilize your skills in tour when you think we are Dom, you are the Dom kop yaaaz nibanga isicefe njeee ngobe nikhumsha ambanokhumsha kwawenu amazwe, impress your leaders so that they can think about and start making changes not the other way round, nibanga isidina yhoooooo!!🙆🏻🙆🏻🙆🏻🙆🏻😵😵
Go fix your country it need to be fixed with your skills
Yes the weekend is for rest that's why we have this problem you can't work 12 months without rest
Glad to see he is still alive. Nice ex president
Hello everyone I hope you’re doing well
In my thinking 💭, this fomer president hi was making clear, that the big problem is not only in South Africa 🇿🇦 is in the leadership of african country.
The african country the have to stop corruption and develop then a country and given a jobs to then citizens, because if this not happen.
South Africa government then can not stopping African to come to this country.
And another ponto hi say that the use to deport before but in the following days the a back this is very true, life in are country is very difficult, this is the reason why we take a risk to come, is no Xinofobia or deport us then will stop us coming here,
What I believe that can make a change is development of are countries, We take this risk coming just to put food in the table of are family, don’t criticise us guys please help us because we need your help.
Thank you with love from Mozambique 🇲🇿
You are right, the problem is that frelimo keeps winning elections and no development is happening under their leadership. So why are Mozambicans still voting for people who are not improving their lives. You can see here in South Africa the anc is about to lose power because people are tired of being told lies and they are beginning to vote for other parties. Why is it not happening in Zimbabwe and Mozambique? In some of the Asian countries they kill corrupt politicians because they rob the poor.
Mr Thabo have you heard about cheap labor....
The economy is in trouble , that a trend in many countries! It is the truth. Black people are allergic to the truth!!
The level of poverty in SA right now is crazy!!
Entire families sleeping in parks, those are Afrikaans speaking families!!
Adults schooled watching cars in small shops and malls parking to get two rands…
People walking 5 km by foot after work…people have no food in townships… travel you will see that!!!!
Foreigners have no money to pay tickets to go home, they would be better there!!!
Now people are being brainwashed that foreigners took all the jobs and moneys!!
There is a big deal of manipulation at an international level to cause KO
Using internet and some superficial individuals in politics !!
Why don’t white people complain?
Well said, Mr president. 👌
What exactly was well said? Is it that illegal immigrants should be given the best of the country because of 'ubuntu'?
That's the strongly point i love it
Foreign nationals avoid tax and don't pay it so that doesn't affect our economy?
@thulambuli1779 make them use legal banks so that they can betaxed
Mbeki come and rescue us please 😊😊
I'm glad to have attended this event in person. Indeed, President Mbeki has the interest of the people at heart ❤️.
Sa is in trouble becouse of leaders who failed and are still failing to make decisions which will prioritize sa citizens, they are the once who failed to close our boders ,they failed to create employment and they failed to see that the uncontrollable boders will lead to this uncontrollable issue of illegal immigrants which strains our Healthcare our electricity and also make it impossible to for police to deal with crime.u spoke well and said they are visitors mr mbeki but visitors must behave nd know when they hv over stayed their time.
Politicians children and grand children must attend public school.
❤❤ilovethabombweki❤❤ I wish you are president of south africa❤❤
Thabo Mbeki implements Thatcherite policies that push for privatisation and privatisation causes decline in government capability and increases corruption. But he never ever admits that much. And that is a problem.
President Mbeki offers great insight on issues affecting the African society
Well he must offer solutions for South Africans. To hell with your African ntonintoni!
I admire this man
Thabo Mbeki please don't mislead people and encourage undocumented maybe your not affected. What laws if you are not illegal
You are not understanding his position. It's true foreigners have nothing to do with economic problems in SA. But only government policies and faures contributes to economic collapse.
@@AugustineKasivila say what ever but undocumented they must live our country the economy won't grow we over populated and undocumented don't add value to our country
Investors are leave cz of economy and violence. Only the government can solve the economic fall. If we look to new currency we now using is not orgnl , it's bonds which means the falling of economy. Even if you chase them my dearest sisters and brothers without investors you wll never work.
What are they taking from you
So when the go are you going to be rich?
MR Mbheki is tired , he needs to stop talking politics and anything to do with current South African affairs let's just leave him to rest 😞
Its your mind that is too exhausted to handle the plain truth. Lol
I admire your facts.. I've been saying this for so long. Thanks for speaking up
HE SHOULD BLAME HIMSELF AS WELL. As FORMER PRESIDENT, HE SHOULD ACKNOWLEDGE AND ADMIT THAT HE IS PART OF THE ONES THAT BROUGHT SA TO WHERE HE SAY IT IS. THEN I WILL BELIEVE HIM.
Baba you have a great mind we really respect always all u say true
This is the guy Nigerians must ask where their billions went to. He is the absolute beneficiary of it and his comrades
Your parents benefited that’s why they didn’t die of starvation, diseases etc
@@dubemellit2932 your ignorance is astounding. Please enlighten me on how this money was funnelled into SA. Did Nigeria even have that much
@maurylife You seriously don't know that Nigerian civil servants used to be deducted a portion of their salaries for your cause?
I'm glad our Kenyan government fully collaborated with Botha to keep you in chains. Our president elected to trade (both in intelligence and economics) with the apartheid government when the rest of Africa isolated you. To this day, our country is on the side of the West in exploiting Africa (including South Africa. Kenya doesn't want the mines and farms ownership to go to blacks!)
Those monies and Sacrifices will always speak against when you fight against Nigerians. Lol
@@dubemellit2932 We only knew of HIV & AIDS after Mandela mixed us with you cursed nations
Like you big man ❤❤❤
Thabo Mbeki has a right to his opinion and we too have the right to our own opinion and perspective. He is frozen in time. Read the Room sir
I am very glad that ex president Mbeki, told the world the truth about South African politics, when he still alive. May others be brave and honest to speak out and correct their mistakes. A political decision to force a regime change in Zimbabwe is at the root cause of innocent lives being lost. Is this not unintended genocide? Yes South Africans are not Xenophobic but misguided and manipulated by politicians. Now how can this be fix? Only 3% of the 62 millions of the South African population is of foreign lands. How can such a minority be the cause of the fall of this great Nation? The same politicians are manipulating the masses again, distractions are created around the 3% minority for all the evils of the country. My prayers are for our rainbow country to rise again and be great again. God bless SA.
@@divinehealingprayers-apost8225 You are intellectually sounds.
Hmmmm you're one of the honest South Africans
Well spoken daddy ❤
We are the GNU, others must deal with their own problems.
Totally agree with the president. Doesn't matter how many electric fence you wil put you cannot stop African immigrants. South Africa still remains the most attractive destination for Africans. It's either its economy becomes unattractive or make African countries responsibility to pay towards South Africa. For example health,education African countries should contribute a lot to South Africa especially Zimbabwe and Nigeria. Also document every African. Have a shared database like we have in Europe. Nomatter where i am in Europe i will still be traced back to the UK why can't Africa do the same
@@mikelsibs492 so Europe is South Africa
That can solve the problem of immigrants especially illegal ones
@christobelthipe8627 Europe ain't South Africa. But the systems they have put in Europe if Africa implements them they will help South Africa. But with their current stance on migrants it will never work. Imagine how much is spent trying to stop immigrants who will stil come back the following day after deportation
He is a great statesman. World class wisdom. The likes of Nelson Mandela, HIM Haile Selasie, PLO Lumumba, Mugabe, Kwame Nkuruma, Koffi Annan, Julius Nyerere and not forgetting Julius Malema. This reasoning is deep and beyond the comprehension of ordinary leaders and tribesmen.
Mandela a sellout