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Rogue Velocidor Dip Attachment Review: Upper Body Building Goodness!
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So glad Rogue is partnering with Mutant Metals, seems like a great outcome based on some of the response to the velocidor release.
Excited to see what they come up. - Coop
I’m still waiting for a rogue roller mono. If they can slim down the MM build with the ghost rollers I’m all in.
If Rogue reads through these comments I want them to know that the owner of vendetta strength actually mentioned that he would love for Rogue to assist with production of the Vendetta brackets/ adjustment system for lever arms so that he could come out with more products. It might turn out to be financially advantageous for both companies. So please put the word out GGR because it would only mean more awesome products for the home gym community :-)
The lever arms need to have the vendetta attachment integrated in, and the kaz attachement that allows lateral movement. I think they would appeal a lot more to me then.
@@Clownlife432 completely agree. They take a good product and make them great. The ability to target muscle areas and personize the lever arms to each individual makes the product that much more desirable. This way everyone wins, especially when these genius inventions meet up with Rogue quality and production power. I know the guy that owns Vendetta is working over 70 hours a week right now trying to fulfill his job and startup business. Not to mention having a wife and newborn. I couldn’t do it lol. Don’t know how he does. I’m sure that’s part of the reason why he doesn’t mind outsourcing some. So much attention and detail goes into everything.
@@meisdetermined well, I'm happy that it sounds like he is a hard-working, good dude. I'm glad I'm supporting him and have a pair on order!
@@Clownlife432 100% I think this fully integrated solution you recommended would sell me on them. I want the Rogue Trolley smoothness, the Vendetta locking position flexibility and safety, and finally the Kaz 180 degree pivoting.
That would be biggest blessing the hone gym community ever had since the squat rack itself
Just ordered the rogue version of the mutant metals dip attachment. The ability to put the handles on uprights and spotter arms is what did it for me.
I like that you're doing a Rogue product review on a Rep rack.
I have this attachment. I love it. It is too heavy though, some people will struggle to put it up and attach a pin through it. It might be less useful to some for that reason, or folks dont want to mess with it, or someone might need help to put it up if they are not as strong (45 pounds, unwieldy and need to align a pin could be tricky for some) They could have used 11gauge steel, and shaved off some weight. BUT once set up it is amazing. I didnt think I would use the angles, but I do, and its helping some triceps issues I had. Angles are gold! knurling is perfect. handles are perfect. Its not that much more than other dip attachments, and the options are worth it, for a lifetime of dip variations. worth it. Also, I had a friend drill out the storage post, and bolted to my lat pulldown, so the dip attachment stores out of the way. I have currently been using this attachment three times a week, because I like it so much.
Any chance you've tried leg lifts on it?
Coop, not sure if you actually tried it on your rig. But I noticed it was off-center in the videos when attached (as it is on mine, I thought possibly mine was just a fluke). When the Velocidor is setup on the rig, the bottom pin hole isn't centered with the rig holes so a second Hitch-pin won't fit through. (I have the Rogue Monster Velocidor and the PR5000 so everything is the 1inch). Also, while the 12 inch wall attachment was nice, it only has holes on the upper section, so if wall mounted, your stuck with having to unpin and remount solo.
I ended up drilling additional holes to match up with the bottom on the 12inch strip, so I could utilize both pins, to make "storing it" easier. However, because the strip is only 12 inches, the Velocidor ends up swinging down into the wall. I ended up mounting a small piece of wood directly underneath to circumvent this. I think as overbuilt as this whole product is, if they're going to go out of their way to include a wall strip, it should've been a 14 inch strip, with holes that line up to both pin holes on the Velocidor. That allows you to wall mount it, utilize 2 pins, and have it be able to store down without needing to do the "Hold, pull the pin, lift it higher, re-pin bottom, then lower to stored position.
Long timer viewer, first time commenter. Awesome Review Coop.
I have one and I use it with my RML-3W it works great and is very diverse and usable for several applications. Hang it on the wall out of the way or use it on your rack in several different configurations. It's such a great addition to my humble garage home gym!
A possible solution to the button issue mentioned at the 15:37 mark would be for rogue to create a washer that has a button hole in it so it goes flat once inserted. They may need to make the insert pin a little longer so you can use the thread locker to tighten it in place.
I like Rep Fitness’ Drop-in Dip Handles, but think storage would be an issue. The Rogue Velocidor could be stored on the wall using the 3”x3” section they include. Storing on my rack is not an option with Ares and weight storage on the rack.
Great review Coop! Love it!
What I didn't like about the MM UDA and Rogue's V... offering was that rogue filed a patent and tried making the intellectual property theirs. In that patent it encompassed the whole MM design with the addition of angle adjustment. You can't patent something that exists it has to be novel. The patent wasn't specific to the adjustable angle of grips it effectively would have patented the whole design much of which was MM's. This might still be the case too if they continue with their patent plans.
Reminds me of who invented the telephone history and even the patent suggests Alexander Graham-Bell did but in reality Antonio Meucci and Philipp Reis each created a telephone like devices before Bell's patent was filed. The US House of Representatives viewed Antonio Meucci's invention so similar that it would have been enough to have prevented Bell's patent.
The angle adjustment aspect is patentable for Rogue but the width adjustment is not. I am not a patent attorney but I did well in IP law in law school.
Do you have a link to the application?
With the addition of the monster bracket. It would be a great addition to every home gym, even if you don't have a power rack.
$300 NOT including shipping.
I'll buy it in my dreams tonight :)
Wack comment.
Great review. Think a collab between Rogue and Mutant Metals would be a great outcome given the similarities between the products. Love that you touched on the additional Monster channel. This with the rogue jammer pull up bar makes it possible for those with smaller spaces (without racks) to do dips and pull ups by attaching to studs instead of relying on hydrid dip bars/ pull ups bars which you've reviewed in the past! Would love a review on the Jammer pull up bar x Velocidor combo compared to some of the dip bars and pull up bars combos you've reviewed previously
Thanks Coop. One of the (many) things I like about the Mutant Metal dip bar, least the 1" version, is the J-Cup style attachment to the rack. Just slide the pin in and swing down. Alas their 5/8" version only comes with a hitch pin. Same with this. Not end of the world, just looks like a really nice way to manage these bulky attachments.
@@Pler1978 Yeah, figured as much. Just a shame as nice idea.
I like that Rogue Fitness and Hammer Strength add tons of attachments to their power racks to add lots of different exercises besides just bench and squat to a power rack setup. Hammer Strength makes add ons as well.
Dear Coop,
Fan of all the work you do and really respect your opinion so much so it’s it’s almost like gospel to me. You give great reviews on all gym equipment that when you say something is good or not it’s enough for me to take your word for it. I recently hurt my lower back and Amazon is selling a belt squat machine for $699 by a company named Sydee by chance of you seeing this comment would love your thoughts on it being junk or not
That thing looks awesome up close. I wish I could put it on the rack easily like the Rep fitness one. They should of put a permanent pin on the bottom to store it in down position. And a hitch pin on top
IMO the textured powdered coat is to help with moving it since it is heavy. Less likely to slip in your hands
I might consider this but that's just because I'm a huge weighted dip enjoyer (trying to get it to 200lbs). Currently at 185.
Splitting the difference and having the Mutant Metals design but with the button pin that allows for multiple angles would be my ideal. Seeing the pictures of it at the end of the video got me instantly more excited to look into that (or see what a possible collab brings out) than the entire 20 minute video on the Velocidor, even though that looks nice too.
I’m one of those gym owners that doesn’t want a workout just moving attachments around my cramped garage and then placing onto the upright. It’s the greatest friction that gets in the way of whether or not an attachment gets used or not- do I want to go through the hassle / exertion to move this thing around in space and place onto my upright or would I rather just do an alternative exercise and skip it? 90% of the time it’s the latter.
Definitely agree on the weight thing. I'm all for good build quality, but when I'm wrestling something overhead, while trying to get linch pins to go through 4 holes without being crooked, I'd much rather have that thing weigh 20 pounds than 45 pounds. Lots of homegym people don't have a crew of meatheads around when it comes time to hook up rack attachments.
If you vibrate the bolt as you're inserting it in the hole, it goes in alot easier.
Wife says that work in other instances as well.. Giggity
I realize that Rogue has built there business around powder coating steel, but to reduce weight they should make the body of this out of aluminum. Aluminum can be powder coated, and they should use gloss black as Coop mentioned. Throw in some MM stainless style handles and upgrade to a magnetic pin and they would have the ultimate solution.
Magnet would neither work with aluminium or general stainless steel though.
They should have used this concept with individual dip handles that attach to each upright. All of the controversy would have been avoided, would not cannibalize matador sales, and would provide a truly unique option. The Y style dip attachments tend to make the whole rack shake while using them. The individual dip handles don't have that problem because the load is distributed evenly between the uprights. I have a version of these made by Black Widow and they are fantastic. But I would certainly consider an adjustable option if it was available.
👍 That looks awesome! I don't have a Rogue rack, I have a ForceUSA rack but dip bars for racks have always been terrible in terms of width for the most part. I think a premium adjustable dip bar (& pullup useability) like that is the #1 best & most useful attachment anyone could buy, for the vast majority of people... I wish I could get one for my rack, I'd spend any amount of money for one . . .
👍 As a quick follow-up to my last comment, I contacted Mutant Metals & they responded with a "can do" -- They said not a problem to make the plastic protective insert thicker to exact specification of my 2.4" x 2.4" uprights on the ForceUSA rack, so I'm going to go ahead and order from them, in case anyone else has the same concerns (Mutant metals works on all 3" x 3", 2" x 2", 3" x 2" & my 2.4" x 2.4") and they offer it with 1" or 5/8" pin diameter . . .
I have had mine for a month or so and love it. Is it weird that i like feeling the knurled handles??? I will say the second hole on the bottom does not fit a Rep PR5000 Rack which forces you to awkwardly stabilize this beast for a moment. It would be great if they did what Rep did with the Utility Seat to account for different hole spacing. And when taking it down from doing pullups the first time i almost knocked myself in the head. Great product though. Here is to innovation!! Thanks Coop!!
The adjustability is nice, but functionally I prefer the new Rep drop-in handles that allow me to do work between uprights. Could definitely use with a belt squat attachment. Also easy for assisted movements w bands, etc. plus you can to dips, pull-ups, AND inverted rows 🥳
I 100% agree!!! I have the Rep drop-in dip attachments and they are excellent 👌🏾
@@GenXFitness How has it held up? considering buying one
@@Henry-kb6me The durability is excellent. They are built solid! As an attachment that can be taken off and on, one of the best.
No to Rep drop ins. Spacing between them is too narrow.
@@reconstructionwouldhavesav9472 really? they’re 22” wide at the narrowest and 25” at the widest when mounted on the front of a Rep rack. That’s right on par with everyone else’s. You’d have to go to the widest settings on the Velocidor to get noticeable wider. Plus depending on your rack configuration you can get even wider. I’m 6’3” and that’s plenty wide for me 🤷🏻♂️
@Garage Gym Reviews you mention that gym owners could use the Velocidor with the included monster mini strip, but Rogue recommends that its Strip products only be used to store the Velocidor, not to perform dips on them. I assume this relates to suboptimal stability vs a rig, but would be interested in your opinion.
i did message them on their website chat and the rep said you could use it as a permanent dip station mounted with the mini strip. i don't who is right; personally two lag bolts on one stud for all this seems a bit iffy to me, but i'd love for it to work
(2:13:29 PM) Rich: is the 3x3 mini strip 2.0 that comes with the velocidor dip station meant to support the weight of a person doing dips? or is it only meant for storage? i.e. if i lag bolt it to a stud can i make a permanent dip station to perform dips? or is the velocidor only meant to be used attached to a rack?
(2:13:51 PM) Paul M: Hi Rich! My name is Paul M, and I am happy to assist you today.
(2:14:30 PM) Paul M: You would be able to mount that and perform dips off of it.
(2:14:55 PM) Rich: with just the two lag bolts?
(2:15:13 PM) Rich: in wood stud
(2:15:56 PM) Paul M: If you are concerned about the structure holding the unit, we would suggest contacting a local contractor though you should not have any issues.
the have it for the monster light, 5/8 holes too, which is awesome.
I like the cheaper option rogue offers for dip attachment without the knurling. I prefer the black grippy powder coat tbh. I prefer knurling on barbells. Im still curious about the rogue and mutant metal dip attachment.
This is sick, is there any adapters or anything I could use to put this on a 2in rep rack?
That is a whole-notha-leval, looks like its time to upgrade my Monster Matador!
They have a mutant metals rogue version coming. Chris already has a prototype at his home gym
I bought mutants metal one and love it
Coop, how 'bout a review of the Rogue Manta Ray Adjustable Bench? Very interesting! thanks!
You didn't state the price, so I looked it up: $295.
Honestly, I thought it would be at least twice that much. That thing looks solid.
Never knew Coop was a hunter 👍
TOOK YOU A WHILE COOP!!
Coop, sporting some Sitka!
Standing invitation to come out to Idahosometime and put it to good use 😃
Review of the Pritchett pad next? Rogue has mostly left the home gym market empty while brands like REP, Irwin, and Oak Club are filling that niche.
Please review the Pepin fast series adjustable dumbbells
Need a video of top accessories Coop’s discovered for Rogue Rhino
Which is a better option, a monster weight stack slinger or Reps selectorized lat pulldown and low row? I’m open to either one, but I was wondering if there was more versatility in the rep option.
I love rogue , I have lots of their products and if that dip bar was 15lb lighter it would be in my garage.
Is there a brand that makes a dipping handle similar to the 'Perfect Pushup' handle which allows your shoulder and scapular to rotate at you come down. Good for rotator cuff injuries??
Come straight to the comments once I heard “it’s hard to get it in” 😂
Colored knobs and ends would be nice
I strongly suspect the Monster channel that comes with the Velocidor is purely for storage purposes and not for actually doing dips on the wall. The channel is fairly short and those mounting holes on the channel are fairly small and close together. Even though 2x4 studs are strong and lag bolting this to the wall will be sturdy, it wouldn't be beefy enough to sustain frequent use.
It’s great that Rogue ultimately reached out to Mutant Metals, but don’t let it distract you from the fact that it only did so AFTER the backlash from the community. Christopher from MM was very graceful and professional throughout the ordeal, but it was clear that Rogue initially planned on launching this piece with complete disregard for the UDA’s existence
And used Matt Pendergraph as a platform to push it into the home gym space.
@@DrDeusExMachina another reason to dislike that guy. He’s such a tool so it was very on brand to promote the Velocidor.
Does it matter *why* Rogue did the right thing? You still get the same result. You people have to learn, when the dog submits, stop beating it.
@@hitleractually8180 Does it matter "why?" Yes, because intention is an important element here. Rogue initially did what it did because it thought that it was on top of a mountain and did not foresee any backlash. One of the best things about social media is that it can enhance accountability, and one of the great things about the home gym community is that many of its members actually have morals and honor innovation with respect to the first mover. Rogue intended to pass the Velocidor off as its own innovation with zero regard for Mutant Metals, and even filed a patent for it. The company did not acknowledge the original product UNTIL the public called it out, and even tried to defend its position. The "why" matters because of the "when." Of course, Rogue can learn from this if it chooses to do business ethically, but that remains to be seen in an increasingly competitive market. It certainly deserves credit for ultimately acknowledging the criticism and doing the right thing, but forgetting the events that led to this is exactly what it wants us to do. This isn't about submission; its possible for consumers to forgive without forgetting
I’ve been doing dips on rings for the past year and now I feel rock solid even with 40+ kilos added. Is there any point to getting a dip attachment at this point?
Seriously though, free standing dip parallel bars are cheap and much more versatile
REVIEW THE ROGUE PRITCHETT PAD, PLEASE :)
Yes that would seem like a possible lever row attachment
I bought the Monster Lite version, and the holes didn't line up with my RML-3. Rogue sent me another one, and I had the same problem. Now they are sending new UHMW thinking that will help the alignment. I don't know if anyone else is having this problem. I have the old RML-3, maybe it fits better on the new ones.
I like the name, and laser cut logo. I wish they’d put the laser cut rhino in the 🦏
Why not just call it the Matador elite?
Also, it takes up just as much space to store as it does setup…
Coop, please review Rep Apollo Half Rack. There are literally no real reviews on this rack. It looks great but I am waiting for a review to decide whether it is a good investment.
I'll put it on the schedule! - Coop
@@GarageGymReviews Thank you Coop. Will look forward to hearing your thoughts on the Apollo Half Rack. Thank you.
I just hate the attachment piece. I’ve been using some Mutant Metal handles on an Oak Club alpha arm which has worked so great I’m selling my dedicated Sorinex dip attachment.
Your first Sorinex piece?!
@@jamestonbellajo and first sold sorinex piece hopefully lol
Hey coop, do you think the velocidor could be mounted to a rep 5000 ares on the front upright with the pulley that feeds in to the trolley running through the velocidor?
I’m trying to mount a velocidor permanently on each side for weighted pull up and dips. Ares looks to be the most compact option thats heavy other than the powerlift multi function pulley.
Rogue could have just put the locating pin protrusions on the base and accepting holes on the handles, and then you would be able to use the handles on anything 😮
Body solid makes drop in handles for like $50 that works on Monster Lite since their new racks model rogue. Y style handles are too unsteady and you need rack to be bolted or weighted down.
I agree, seems like that is a better solution for much less - just give up the different widths and angles that are probably overkill anyways.
The ability to roll it up and down the upright like jammer arms would be nice…could you do that?
Would like to see a compo to a monster light matador
Would be a lot better if it attached like a j cup like mutant metals. Almost there tho .. stay tune for 3.0 rogue Monstador"
HI COOP CAN YOU REAVIEW THE CAR JACK DEAD.LIFT ATTACHMENT from FORTISEQUIPMENT ?
If it was half the weight it would be perfect. I may buy it for pull-ups but man, seems like it will be annoying to latch onto my rack so high up by myself
Have y'all ever heard of the brand Stozm? Their Adjustable Kettlebell looks interesting, but I wonder about the quality.
why didn't Rogue think about put the angle adjustment pin on the frame and holes in the handles ? so the handles could be usable anywhere
This looks gray with that power coat. That definitely a turn off that or won’t match my other rogue monster attachments
Wonder if it fit my basic cheap rack
I feel like I was in the minority when this first came out and didn't really care if they "copied" mutant metals. Rogue seems to have knocked it out the park with this one and this will be the dip attachment I buy when I'm ready to upgrade!
Will this work on a non-Rogue 3x3 power rack?
Can you use the handles on lever arms.
Rogue customer service doesn't recommend performing dips using the monster channel/mini strip. Have you tried to see if the included lags mounted on a stud are strong enough to support the dip bar and body weight?
Where can you find extra hitch pins?
Wish you did a head to head with Mutant Metals.
Can it fit on a rep rack?
It is expensive, but not that much more than Rogue's regular Mantador. I think the weight of the unit is more annoying - I wonder what the base weighs without the handles installed? I assume that is how most people will end up moving it if the weight on the unit bugs them...
I’ll never buy any of this shit, but I love watching these videos.
Me waiting for Rogue to redesign their slingers and cable pulley systems
Rogue: Have a high end dip bar
I know what you mean. I ended up selling the rogue rack and buying the rep pr5000 with ares. Have not had any problem fitting rogues single hole attachments but the 2 hole attachments don’t fit because of the spacing differences. You can see it with this dip bar on the video.
@@geomafia I did the exact same thing! I love the Ares!
So it’s a dip attachment made for heavier set people?
Can anyone explain why I wouldn’t be able to use this or the Matador on my SML-1 squat stand. Rogue does not recommend.
Thanks in advance.
Turnoff for me is the storage mode. It sticks out far too much especially when compared to Mutant Metals’. I can leave the handles in place and just flip mine up against the rack. When I’m ready to use it I just drop down and go.
Yep
It’s seems too big
2:46 -2:49
Old Coop would have inserted a Michael Scott meme.
“Un-tighten”? Is that the same as “loosen”?
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Samson’s dip attachment is all 7-gauge, really heavy, and thus almost indestructible.
Ive seen a guy who added a handle on each side of the rhino handles and got a dip feature built in and a handles for belt squat .. and rogue copied mutant metals for sure !
Fudge should’ve waited 4 more months to buy this one. I got the matador for Christmas ugh
Velocidor is not a copy. Looks great.
It is time to do a dedicated video review of the Surplus Strength UPS. I just ordered the UPS bundle and can not wait to try it out. I had been waiting on Rogue to improve the Slinger, but go tired of waiting.
He can’t review it when he doesn’t even know the name of the company. Called it by the wrong name multiple times in the last video. Pretty embarrassing, actually.
He always says anything that rogue is the best 😂😂
Now they need some dip bars that do the dipping for u
I bought one of these, and one of the handles will not even fit in the body because the dowel pin piece diameter is too large. I have notified Rogue and included pictures and caliper measurements, and they are giving me the run around. I spent $325 + shipping for them to send me a defective product and bust my balls when I contact customer service. It's the last time I'll deal with Rogue. Rep and other competitors are kicking their butt lately.
Keep on them. They'll get it taken care of I'm sure. Let us know if they don't. - Coop
Why are these attachments and benches not made out of aluminum so their not 1,000 pounds to move around
Do you know if the 5/8ths version of this would be compatible with a rep 4000?
Yes it would. But don’t buy a second pin since second hole doesn’t match with Rep rack. So it will be a little inconvenient to fold it
Can you turn the handles angled up and do dips facing the other direction? Like your back towards the rack? I feel like that would be the best for the lower pecs
I dont think you need to. You can angle the handles downward.
Yes you can. I do it this way. Angled up and facing away from the upright. It feels the best.
@@geomafia Thanks! I appreciate the response
I like your reviews, and I’m sure you’ve addressed this question more than once, but shouldn’t you be way more buff or huge or something considering your career? I don’t think it would affect anything at all, but it makes me wonder the limits of the un-enhanced human body because you must work out like a banshee. Just a thought.
Definitely not storing it like - way too lazy lol but looks cool otherwise. Probs won’t end up in my gym though.
Looks nice now I just gotta get a RACK to use it on
$115 for monster lite matador vs. $325 for the velocidor - basically for those with cash to throw around
Get a better job, son
Both holes won't line up on a PR5000. You can sit here in the thumbnail.