Installing the FrSky 2.4GHz DIY kit in a HobbyKing Turnigy 9X radio
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- If you want to upgrade the standard Turnigy 9X version 2 radio from Hobby King to the more resilient FrSky system then here's how it can be done, by installing a DIY kit.
The FrSky offers a number of benefits over the standard Turnigy (FlySky) system including:
* user-definable failsafes
* a wider range (4, 6, 7, 8-channel) of receivers
* more resilience to interference
* longer range
* receiver antenna diversity on all 6+ channel units
My apologies for the bad audio in parts of this video.
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I remember you mention how you have been using the same knife pen for years; I think it is even more remarkable when one watches how versatile you are with it. Great video as usual Bruce, cheers.
Dear Bearded King of all DIY. I just received my TG9X with the FrSky DIY module, and within the hour it was working. It wouldn't have worked without your video guide. Thank you very much!
I have to admit that when I got the kit, I had no idea as to what the instructions were telling you to do. How you figured it out, I can't imagine.
Congrats on a great YT channel, one of the best from the point of view of those of us not afraid to tinker.
Many thanks.
@RCModelReviews
Bruce that would be really great. (a DIY demonstration on how to fit the FrSky DHT into the Turnigy 9X)
Of course we all have our own ideas on how to do it, but if you get the time to show your plan of attack it might ignite ideas that we haven't thought of.
Though I don't need to convert my transmitter to FrSky, I enjoyed your video. You did a great job of explaining what you were doing and demonstrating proper soldering techniques. I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Thanks much! Just ordered the DIY kit from HobbyKing along with an extra 8 channel receiver. Also, like an idiot, I ordered Frsky JR module with receiver. Tried to change it, but oh well... $20 mistake on my part since I don't need the module for the 9x conversion. I did get an extra receiver out of the deal, but no need for the JR module..
Can I tell you, having fiddled around with soldering irons for I-don't-know-how-long, the thing you did where you held the wire in two fingers with the solder between your thumb and index finger... that's gold.
It takes practice and heat proof fingers. Until you learn to ignore the searing pain you are not on the right path. :O)
I went down a historical rabbit hole and watched this video because I was curious about the origins of EdgeTX. It’s a trip to see you commenting on videos from before you became the expert on the subject. Small world.
Bruce,
I tried your mod on a FlySky 9x w/the FrSky V8HT & V8R7-SP receivers. I had no problem binding & servos worked great the first time around + activated & tested FailSafe. I put the small LED & Switch on the back using some hot glue as cushion for the board and strapped it to the bk case w/ the screw from the blk stub which is screwed to the case.
Not sure why TH-cam recommended this to me in 2020, but nevertheless, despite the fact it was totally irrelevant to any of my kit, i still find it an enjoyable video to watch! Back in the day eh?
I agree with the Q.C. It doesn't take much effort or cost to spend that little extra time and care to make a quality product. Relying on a percentage of reject because of cheapness isn't acceptable. Thanks xjet for your contributions and entertainment.
Have a 2.4 futaba, but still very interesting watching you do the conversion, thanks for posting.
Have to learn to pay attention more closely. I read your review of the Turnigy 9X from some years ago and didn't think about the date. I was mainly interested in the reasonable price. I thought I was getting a deal with the combo price including the RX. First I added the backlight kit and as soon as I started programing I noticed the Fail Safe didn't work. Now after more research of your videos I have ordered a FrSky DIY kit and a D8R-XP servo. Now up to approximately $154 I could have put toward a Taranis or some other radio. The good thing is I'm learning as I always have the hard and costly way. :)
+Lloyd Prunier I have been flying all sizes of quads with 9x and 9x with Open tx since this vid came out and 3 of the 4 are still working great. I just use the 4th for spares like gimbals etc and recalibrate after replacing them. I have Futabas I cant fix as easy and are easier to break.
another option could be using the frsky module in the back and plug it to the transmitter antenna using a cable instead of installing the diy kit, in that way I could easily swap modules in the back and keep using the originals turnigy receivers (of course connecting the antenna to which module I'll be using)... anyway very nice review I'm a fan of your videos!!!
Thanks a million times for this, I'm getting a 9x Turnigy and I will be using this tutorial to do the FrSky mod. Extremely detailed and well explained.
i have to admit i love seeing this stuff from a fellow kiwi instead of an american. thanks for everything love the reviews and vids
Very good video, now I understand what is a DIY. I hate when 12 year olds do a how-to with 95%bs and 5%info. I will have this radio soon and I will watch this again when I do the operation. Cheers and big UP for the video!
Bruce thanks for that! I thought that was the case so I stuck the JR back in and will use it with out the head tracker, and parks sound like a good idea am now trying to get the 9xr to work.
Kind Sir, thank you for taking the time & effort in making & sharing this great video.Absolutely wonderful! I will attempt to do the same once new stock of the 9x comes available.
Ty for saving my fingers and typing this for me, Bruce.
I have tested Corona DSSS system and you are correct, the failsafe is not "persistent". I wished you would have stated this before since i ordered this system from Hobby king after watching your video on installing and testing it and everything seemed fine. luckily i have not put this receiver in my system without this piece of important information. I hope you make this information known to your viewers before they did what i did without the knowledge of a better choice. (I enjoy your channel)
Thanks for your quick response to my question on the menus. These videos are invaluable , they always say apicture is worth a thousand words. Thanks again.
from doing a little more reading, there are two versions of the 9x. if the antenna comes out of a little box in the back, and not the transmitter itself, its an easy pop in, if not, and your antenna comes out of the transmitter, you have to follow his steps in the video, so the box will be default when clipped in.
Nice video. I did something similar only I went a step further and mounted the original Turnigy antenna directly to the plug in module. Now I can use it or my Corona plug in module (yuck) or soon my own FrSky module.
Love my 9x radio and I think I will like it even more with the FrSky module.
Jon
A small tip for putting the screws back. The screws are a bit too snug and can strip the holes, so to make their way easier put some soap on them. Hard soap, not the hand washing liquid thing Also it doesn't matter if it's Dove, Palmolive or the cheapest around. You can tighten the screws fairly easy now and it will hold just fine.
I ordered the one you stick in the back 2 weeks ago and should get it within 2 days. I think the biggest advantage of it is that you can swap between Frsky and Flysky so you can still use hobbyking or turnigy receivers with the old module.
Congratulation for the video! Perfect, because I intended to buy a Turnigy 9X but was afraid that it doesn't fit my purposes of making a FPV system. Thank You!
@Vanusk
yes! I did install it yesterday and it is exactly the same, but you have the toggle switch, i removed the timer switch so i didnt had to drill extra holes.
and yes it's working!
@RCModelReviews
If anyone need a transmitter for conversion, Turnigy 9X costing $53 is natural choice. 9X programing capability is superb, better than other 9ch brands.
I used JR 378 for conversion to FrSky only because I had JR 378 on hand.
Good Video,Thanks.Glad to see you use the "L" in solder...
That is great. I will what for the 9303 vid. I saw the review on the Flysky Module and you said you would trust it in a 50cc. I'm in! And I have plenty of planes that are lacking a receiver because of cost of sketrum technology.
@RCModelReviews Thank you for the information Bruce, Its informative to see your video clips. Its like you are teaching everyone. Hey their are many folks that want to learn from you.
Thank
Best regards
I love your little pickup on the whole solder/ sodder pronunciation :D
Thanks for the vid.
I have the FlySky 9X so I didn't need the mod advice,
but I was confused as to whether or not the FrSky module was compatible with my receiver.
It would seem that it is :)
Mate you rock!! I want to adopt you as my uncle , SOUL-DUH-ING ..even in the face of raw phonetics it continues unabated... Why aren't you a millionaire? pure genius!!!
great video RCModelReviews
use epoxy that way it wont pop apart on a cold day, hot glue rocks as a pinner and hold rc foam together well, in my exp hot glue comes undone on hard plastic in cold weather.
Thanks for this excellent tutorial. Just followed it to the letter (nearly) and now have full signal loss failsafe on my DJI Wookong M with my 9X. Thank you! Only change I made was to put the LED and button through the little top Turnigy logo which is quite asthaetically pleasing. :) Never going to resell so doesn't matter in that respect.
Well, I have three modules now... the first is the stock one that comes with the TX. The second is the Frsky DJT unit, I got it from parkeflyer, and the third is the new DSM2 module, picked that up from hobbyking
@RCModelReviews Thanks for the reply Bruce. my big plan was to reflash the firmware with the improved ER9X from erazz. i have to wait for the pogo board for eprom flash to come off of back order first. in the past with my 72mhz systems i ran dual recievers splitting the arplane down the middle. i reiciever for 1 ele, 1 ail and one of the rudder servos. and the othere reciever for 1 ele , 1 ail ,1 rudder and the throttle . i've had recievers fail and the dual setup saved my but twice now.
You can use the HK-GT2R with the 9X as well, it's only 3 channels but most smaller models only use 3 channels anyway.
if you want a small receiver, for your 9x, get the 6ch receiver made by flysky (which can be found under the brands flysky, hobbyking, eurgle, etc...)
@RCModelReviews Excellent!! I was just looking to ask that very question :) Eagerly awaiting! Your guides are perfect!
@RCModelReviews You are right about the antenna thing. But I am not quite sure if using the DIY module will improve reliability. Maybe you could mention that people who lack the soldering skills are better off using the JR module.
seriously don't worry about the audio it's really not bad anyway you are awesome.
best bet is to google the frsky website, and check the chart for compatibility.
It depends on what you mean by the cheapest, with or without telemetry? there are both options for that module.
Ok, got some help from rcgroups, its advised to use a diode for the ppm line so that you could use one toggle switch for the vcc.
just installed the DHT (telemetry) unit as you discribed, and it totaly works!!
very nice manual!!
thank you very much and keep up the good work!
Yes, i will subcride
@RCModelReviews I can turn the servos manually but not with the TX. When turning them manually (with everything turned on) they turn as if everything was turned off, they don't try to recenter or hold their position.
VERY GOOD .... plus, the bind switch sits better up there. If it's on the back you could activate it whey you dont want to.. also ,why not just lock the antenna with the nuts a little bit lower? its seems to be room?
As always Bruce. Informative and entertaining. Thanks.
I Like your - as always - very clear video's! It would be great if you could review the telemetry mod for the Turnigy 9x with FrSky and ER9x firmware. Can you imagine only a $60 radio with built in telemetry lcd?
perfect work
you may also add some hot glue on the connectors after soldering it
Just what I needed to hear. I'll find some creative way to cover the antenna hole. Thanks for the quick response. Your videos are awesome by the way, and the unbiased reviews are just icing on the cake. Let the haters hate.
Finally someone who says solder, not sodder
Frysky offers up to about 2.5km max, the flysky is a little more limited. With an extra 7DB antenna, I hear you can get up to 4.5km.... but, Ive just ordered the new add on module because I want to use the MXQ on the same receiver. I know I can bind the V929 to it as well, I just need to google more.
@nitrovice the brand and wattage doesnt matter. The rating on the soldering iron just means higher the watts, quicker it heats up. A 16 watt soldering iron will be as good as a 30watt one for this application. It matters when you start soldering thicker wires / traces etc.
IMO stay away from 5£/$ cheapo ones, and get a Antex make, 16 watt or 18watt. These are better and have different tips available. a standard chisel tip will be fine (these are standard on this wattage)
LEAD FREE!!
It's as you say, all electrical gadgets are driven by smoke. Proof? If you keep the smoke in, it'll work. If you let the smoke out, it'll stop working!
I tend to call this system 'frisky'. 'cos it's cute & seems to do a lot..;-)
(rangevideo) website sometimes carries this item if not sold out, they have a few other options as well just for fpv.
I love these modding and hacking tutorials! I heard a great quote; "If you cant open it, it doesn't belong to you' lol
Congrats, your videos are very clear and well edited.
you can add a switch right to switch between the fr sky and turnigy and maybe use a set of sma connectors on the turnigy wires i would like to see what you think
cheers
@gtrguy32 i was more or less unsure if you could run two recievers bound the the same radio without any issues of being erratic or range issues. From what everbody online says about the 9x , with good firmware and the frsky module it is capable of being a very good radio. the er9x firmware makes the radio more fluent to program and gives better mixes with better 5/9 point curve adjustments.plus you get a nice little EL backlight with the pogo kit. thanks for such a quick response :D
Is this module compatible with their telemetry receivers as well or do we need a FrSky DIY telemetry version module for that? Great video as usual.
Carona DSSS (V2) dose have a failsafe and is dose work very well.
@RCModelReviews I see, I don't have an oscilloscope but I could use the one at school, I'm guessing you're right and the board is fried.
LOL, great informative and funny videos.
A lot of people seem to think we do not pronounce the "L" but in reality we of course do pronounce it.
It is the pronunciation of the letter "O" that distinguishes the "L" sound with your accent and not with ours.
Do you happen to know the battery alarm level for these receivers? Thanks
Great stuff, I am going to get one of these transmitters (when hobbyking has them back in stock!) and do this conversion :)
Ken, I don't think the radio is approved by the MAAA (but HK does show "** C-Ticked & certified for the Australian market" for the 9X).
This probably means you cant use it at MAAA affiliated clubs. My local is about $200/yr (+ working) bugger that for a joke, I think I will stick to parks and reserves. The actual TX list is very small and probably fixed to suite the importers cartel. (my opinion only). Have a look at the MAAA site. Changing the module probably wont make it compliant (for them).
You are really GOOD, very clear explanations.
Thanks
PS Keep up the good work
i love your drill sound through plastic, my toilet role holder has more power. Please don't take offence, i love your videos.. when pay day comes i will drop you a donation for the best RC videos on the net!!!
oh yeah. check parkeflyer... they have a nice pic of it up, you can verify.
grab one of those 7db antennas for it too, extend your range a little more.
:D
Hey Bruce, I installed the FrSky DIY module following your video several months ago and couldn't be happier. Now that HobbyKing just came out with the DSM2/DSMX module for $29, I ordered one up to use with all the Horizon Bind 'n' Fly stuff... Anyway, I'd like to add a toggle switch to disable the FrSky if I'm using a module. Do you think I could just add the toggle inline on the positive wire to the FrSky module, or would the PPM (or something else) be better?
hey , i enjoy watching someone of your knowledge do these videos , most of us wouldnt ever know of any of these things if it werent for you , im thinking of doing this conversion on my turnigy 9x , how large of plane would you go with on this conversion??
Great review, I just watched it. I think this combo is quite good, I plan to purchase these items and do the mod myself. Thank you for sharing!
Good day, what is your flying range after the mod?
and . . . . this might be a little off the topic, but if I install this module in a walkera transmitter will i get better range also?
What would be the "all in" cost for everything done in the video as a friend just doesn't have the coin to drop on a DX7 or DX8.
Thanks and keep these types of videos coming!
Many thanks for showing this upgrade, I've been waiting for it :-)
Bruce,
You may have said this already. But I was wondering how Frsky compares to 2.4Ghz interference like the Futaba and JR radios you have reviewed under "Heads up: 2.4GHz systems tested" on the RCmodelreviews website.
Where can I find the template for the holes that I need to drill, I went on your website but cannot find them.
BTW great video, really appreciate these kind of things.
the frsky tx module.
my next mod, Im going to try and put the module from my DX4e into it too.
but, thats going to take a little more googling before I feel like I can do it without destroying it.
You make it look so ez you do a great job! you should have a hobby shop! you would make a lot of money selling and setting up RC's if I hit the big one I will set you up! I mean it! have a great day! and thank you for the videos!
one tip for dealing with hotglue: use some alcohol that makes it easyer to remove
Not sure why you would want to go through all that trouble. The EzUHF module just drops in (9x 9xr, anything with the JR modual) without having to open the unit. Not too sure about some of your comments about things like failsafe, my 9x has failsafe.
Yes it is for shorter range 1-2 km
Bruce,
I have enjoyed your videos over the last year. Thank you for providing good stuff. I do have 2 questions about the Turnigy 9x. In this vid you mention one of the benefits of switching to frsky is to get fail safe option. However, on my Stock Turnigy 9x under Settings options on the 1/2 screen on the bottom right it has" fail saf" and when you click it you go to option to set fail safe parameters i think. Never used the radio yet so I don't know if that is what it is for or not.
Bruce... Did you ever post a template for drilling the holes on RCModelReviews for the bind plug?
Look at me, I'm civilized so I won't cut this wire. Ah heck who am I kidding I'm a beast, snip. I have a thought for you. When you attach the new antenna with hot glue wont turning the antenna cause the glue to break free? I would use a plastic zip tie pulled tight around it just above the nut to hold it in place and allow it to swivel without breaking free.
Eurgle is compatible to the Turnigy 9x so you don't have to go thru all this because they have a 3 channel small enough for small foamy
@RCModelReviews Oh wow that'll be great ... was about to give this a go myself. Though i'm starting to wonder, by the time i take the T9X, the DHT and the D8R reciever (or perhaps the v2 of that) i'd probably have the equivalent of a $150 dollar radio with a decent 2.4 ghz system with fail safes and what not. Would it be better to purchase another radio for that cost or would this be a practical modification.
Hi. Love your vids. Liked the backpack one esp. Is it better to do this than purchase the plug in module? (FrSky DJT 2.4Ghz Combo Pack for JR w/ Telemetry Module & V8FR-II RX from Hobbyking). Apparently, according to an old post on rcgroups, the old plug in modules used to get over-volted and could fail because "the 9x drives the ppm signal to the module direct from the atmel processor.... driving a 5V signal into a 3.3V processor input."
Is this still an issue or now fixed on 9x/9xr? Cheers
Hey Bruce, I haven't looked through all the comments but did you know that you can bind the hobbyking 3ch and 4ch rx's to the 9x? Although the FrSky is really a great upgrade it's a nice option for anyone that just wants the standard 9x for smaller models.
Peace from Oz.
I love your videos.
Can you tell me the part number for this FrSky system? And I'm assuming that it is from Hobbyking. I've looked but cannot find it.
As far as I can see there isn't even a plug in system for the Turnigy 9X transmitter. There is for other makes but not the Turnigy.
Thanks for your help.
Regards
Is there an easy modification i could make to the receiver that will allow the fail safe to be "persistent"? or should i just replace the Corona system with the FrSky system? I do not want to cause someone harm because i forgot to set the failsafe in the Corona system. Thanks for the timely response you have been making to my comments.
could we have used the original aerial? soldering that wire you cut to the FrSky board.
you can also use the Hobby King GT-2 2.4Ghz Receiver 3Ch PRODUCT ID: HK-GT2_RX great for them 3 channel and small models. and even better there cheap
these only work with the v2 turnigy 9x
Hi Bruce ~ Great video as usual ! ! ! Can you help with a small aerial problem please ?
I need to re-connect my Turnigy Module to the original aerial wire to sell the 9x as I've upgraded my Tx. The co-ax wire is micro thin and I can't easily see the connections to the Module even with a magnifying glass ! Any help would be most appreciated Bruce.
Kind Regards from Eddie in the U K.
Very good video!!! I have a Futaba 9C and I'm trying to instal this module. Could you show us the points needed to be soldering (negative, positive and signal) in the pb? Regards
the 3channel "Hobby King GT-2" will bind with the 9x
Bruce, would these instructions also be applicable to the FR SKY DHT telemetry diy kit?
The only apparent difference appears to be the extra compaibility three way switch.
Thanks in anticipation. Phillip
Honestly thanks a lot for making this video. My new T9x is now outfitted with FrSky, it seems to work great thus far, and this vid made it a quick job with nothing left to figure out.
And LOL - "little chinese ladies with their big manly hands" :)
Bruce:
How would you go about finding out which wires and where they are in trying to install one of these kits on a Airtronics rds8000 radio? Would you need to remove some part of the transmitter? If you did not, wouldn't it still transmit on the original2.4 and the Frsky 2.4? Would using a lipo effect the frsky negatively? Still waiting for HK to bring out the 9xr! Have you heard anything about changes in that radio or when available?
Thanks for your videos.
Why didn't you take out the old transmitter parts on module and replace it with the new transmitter parts? Then you could have put your antenna out the back of the module like a FrSky transmitter by drilling a hole out the back of the module. Just wanted to know.