Was honestly not expecting these results! What do you guys think? Will the Pixel 8 Pro get better with software updates? Also - don't forget about the iPhone 15 & 15 Pro Giveaway (details in the description) and Nebula Nomad & Peaceful Palettes are now both LIVE in WallpaperZ! 🤩
I would think Google serously need to do something with action mode, it should be much better. I imagine there will be tweaks in the pipeline. You never know with Google 😂
I think it is a big deal that the pixel 7 pro has had a year of camera improvements through updates. I think these phones need at least a few months as they also start to learn and teach themselves with machine learning. I believe most phones cameras get better over time.
We're jumping into this too quickly. We all know Google is all about processing. Wait about two months after a couple updates to make the 8PRO camera downgrade statement.
Well too bad should of been ready at launch. At the moment it is a downgrade. Rule #1 do not buy things ahead of time with the expectation of a fix. It may not happen. Infinite excuses for multi trillion dollar company.
You can’t buy a phone based on the promise of future updates. You can’t also guarantee a update based on past behavior. There’s always something that will go down south, and things definitely change. Instead of apologizing for Google, it’s okay to say that it’s not as good as the previous. That’s how phones improve overtime. I’d said the iPhone 14 Pro photos weren’t as good in the HDR department as the iPhone 13 Pro, people said I was crazy. Look at the iPhone 15 Pro with Smart HDR 5, it has improved. This is what you people need to understand.
It's a headline, he doesn't definitively say anything really.. having said that if your upgrading from the 7 pro to the 8 pro you probably shouldn't.. benefits are minor at best
At 5:10 are you sure you didn't switch both images? The 7 Pro seems to have a wider field of view compared to the 8 pro, which can't be right. Should be the other way round.
Portrait mode is inexplicably bad on the pixel. Like "this must be a bug" bad. "Surely they'll expedite a fix for this mess" bad. But no. They never did.
@@lejeuvideo they have improved somewhat in the 8 pro (the details are less oversharpened) but it's not where it needs to be at all. The cutout around the subject is bad and the bokeh dropoff is unnatural. So yes it's better, but I rarely use it as you almost always get a better result just taking the photo normally and applying portrait blur.
The Pixel 8 Pro video was significantly better than the Pixel 7 Pro. It had lower noise, it was sharper and the colors looked more natural (the P7P grass and sky looks too cyan).
The video on the 8 Pro has an unpleasant AI produced look with too much contrast. It can make people look slightly cartoon like. This was not an issue on video shot on the P7 Pro. Software tinkering needed here.
Last year video : Pixel 7 Pro vs Pixel 6 Pro: Camera Review - ACTUALLY a Downgrade? This year video : Pixel 8 Pro vs Pixel 7 Pro Camera - An Actual DOWNGRADE? I am going take a wild guess at next year video title... :D " Pixel 9 Pro vs Pixel 8 Pro Camera - A DOWNGRADE Actually ?
True. Got my 8pro today. Big dissapointment. In less brighter rooms its like an old Nokia. Absolut grainy and big noise Problems on the entire Screen with selfie and Main camera. Will send it back tomorrow
I think they still need to do a better job with portrait mode, you still can't adjust blur strength before taking photos, you can't take 1x portraits without that 1.5x crop, you can't take portraits with the 5x telephoto unlike the iP15 pro max and edge detection is still not as accurate as on the comptetion.
I always felt that any phone gen that uses a new larger sensor/mp count will always lose to the last gen simply because all the ai and enhance tricks aren’t fully tuned for the new images. The following yr (S year) is where that camera shines because all the software is fully designed to make that camera produce the _best_ photos. So id imagine that any issues in the pixel 8 pros photos will be solved in either a later software update or next gen, since this is the first year of 50 mp tele and ultra wide lens.
Not surprised at all. I find the 7 pro an incredible, flag ship label worthy device. The price drop of the 7 pro makes it all the more appealing. Most of the Pixel 8 pro improvement will be by virtue of a hand off in processing to the cloud and not on device improvement. Seems the new chip simply doesn't have the capability to do the level of processing needed. It's no match for a Qualcomm Snapdragon 8 gen 2. If you've got a 7 Pro don't upgrade - the new 8 Pro features may well come to the 7 Pro in time.
I'm sure you hear this a lot, but boy I wouldn't be surprised if someone said you are the twin brother no one knew Andrew Garfield had! Nice comparison btw.
Пиксель 7про умеет использовать 50мп сенсор при кадрировании на увеличении х2 . Получается кроп в 12.5мп с 50мп матрицы. Почему он не может сделать так в портретном режиме?
Main thing I hate about my 7 Pro is it's extremely heat sensitive. Outside in the Arizona heat more than 15 minutes the phone starts shutting down apps. It can't handle the heat as well as my Samsung did. So if I want to ride my bike and listen to music in the summer, I need to carry a frozen water bottle in a small freezer bag and put the phone in there or it will shut down (no music).
Do you know if they've said anything yet about fixing the portrait feature on the older 7pro? Im stuck choosing between the two and the portrait feature was laughably bad on the 7 pro :/
Waiting for 1 inch Phone sensors good as sony rx100. There is no point. The reason is sometimes camera using more iso then the other time... therefore it's looking different.
I watched this, very helpful. Straight after I upgraded my Pixel7 Pro to Android 14 and then upgraded the camea app. Will be interesting to see what upgrade the camera app has
Hey Bro nice work! Can you please test the screen display of the pixel 8 pro ? I noticed that the screen is so dark when it's on 50% brightness (comparing to the S23 ultra which is much brighter --- 40% Brightness on S23 ultra = 70% of Brightness on pixel 8 pro // however, on 100% they are identical). Thanks!
They both have different incremental brightness with the slider . The pixel 8P has 2400 nits , but that only applies to auto peak brightness. In general use, or when using the manual slider , the S23 has a slightly brighter display
I know this is super late, but what is your experience with the Pixel 7 Pro? Do you think it's still worth buying it? And if you've had some issues with it, tell me about them, thank you.
Smartphones have pretty much reached the peak of sensor sizes, as there simply isn't any space left for bigger sensors. Except if they are gonna push smartphones way beyond the 7" mark, which is unlikely.
@@OsgoodCB are you reading Sony new double stacked sensor or 1 inch sensor?? There'll always be hardware sensor for camera and can even better than even point and shoot cam
@@sxepantFTWLet's see how such a system performs in a mobile device. It could be game changing, which means all manufacturers would be copying it in no time. Provided this is cost effective for them of course.
As usual, your comparisons are comprehensive and well researched however many of them are not that clearly different particularly when viewed on an iPad or smartphone. What might help is fewer examples with longer screen times. Maybe 🤷
Even if the battery is dead after three years, and the motherboard after 4. Without insurance to cover 7 years, such a hollow promise from Google is nothing more than a clever sales tactic.
Amazing Review Man, fyi you look really similar to Andrew Garfield, but anyways, waiting now on my Pixel which i ordered on XMas, so just waiting on Amazon, looks still 100% solid the 7 pro, plus social media like X, or Instagram that are constantly lowering the quality, i think it doesnt matter that much if you are really really picky.
I could accept the camera downgrade over the fingerprint sensor upgrade. If I would have to describe Pixel 7 Pro in one sentence it would be "fingerprint not recognized". Anyway, they will make the camera better by software updates, I'm sure of it.
It seems as if the software side isn't yet optimized for the newer 8pro hardware. I'd imagine it'll improve. Also the better portrait mode is probably because of the wider aperture
In out of the box auto mode, Pixels take superb photos for sure. In the hands of a skilled photographer however, the Pro modes on other flagship devices deliver much better results. They are often more costly though, so the Pixel does deliver the best bang for your buck for your average snapper no doubt.
I was going to upgrade until I seen the colours they announced...I'll pass stick with the hazel and gold 7pro, they missed a trick not making the camera bump and side detail gold on the matte black version that would have looked sick now it looks like any average black phone
Great review love your videos. But you didn't pick which phone you would personally chose. If you see my comment let me know which phone you would choose.
You should not have to wait for updates for a camera to be good. They do not have to wait for our money. These cameras should be ready at purchase with improvements as they go. Google relies way too much on software to improve cameras instead of putting actual good cameras in their phones from a hardware perspective.
@mjjones1045 This applies to many phones, not just google, and i was talking about overall stability, not just cameras. Samsung , Xiaomi and others don't impress on launch day too.
Let's spend a £1000 to upgrade our 7pro to the 8 pro so we can wait for a year worth of updates so it can match the 7 Pro just in time for the 9 pro launch...makes sense
You're not wrong, some videos the pixel looks great but in a lot of them it looks way worse than the iPhone.. I'm on a 7 pro thinking of getting the regular 8
There is no consistency in P8 Pro reviews out there. Some honestly point out areas where it needs improving, others just go into ridiculous Pixel fanboy mode and paint it as having the most perfect camera system ever fitted in any device. Why is honesty so lacking on some review channels?.
I started with samsung up till the s9, decided i wanted to try something new and switched to the one plus 7 pro which i hated, and now im using the google pixle 7 pro and its by far my favorite phone. Im officially a google fan
Was honestly not expecting these results! What do you guys think? Will the Pixel 8 Pro get better with software updates?
Also - don't forget about the iPhone 15 & 15 Pro Giveaway (details in the description) and Nebula Nomad & Peaceful Palettes are now both LIVE in WallpaperZ! 🤩
Sir, the Pixel 8 devices have a new Isocell GNV main sensor
I would think Google serously need to do something with action mode, it should be much better.
I imagine there will be tweaks in the pipeline. You never know with Google 😂
I wonder if the rumored new TOF sensor actually made it to the 8 Pro and if that is helping with better portraits.
@ZONEofTECH So, did half a year of software updates improve the Pixel 8 Pro camera? ;)
I think it is a big deal that the pixel 7 pro has had a year of camera improvements through updates. I think these phones need at least a few months as they also start to learn and teach themselves with machine learning. I believe most phones cameras get better over time.
Can't really remember any significant improvements to the pixel 7 pro camera throughout the year that I've had it. Which ones are you thinking of?
It doesn't matter at the moment the pixel 8 is worse and Google said it is better than the pixel 7 so it's not at all
@@dallan7740 pixel 7 pro camera bad?
We're jumping into this too quickly. We all know Google is all about processing. Wait about two months after a couple updates to make the 8PRO camera downgrade statement.
Well too bad should of been ready at launch. At the moment it is a downgrade. Rule #1 do not buy things ahead of time with the expectation of a fix. It may not happen. Infinite excuses for multi trillion dollar company.
You can only compare the phones as they are now, not what they might be in the future,
You can’t buy a phone based on the promise of future updates. You can’t also guarantee a update based on past behavior. There’s always something that will go down south, and things definitely change. Instead of apologizing for Google, it’s okay to say that it’s not as good as the previous. That’s how phones improve overtime. I’d said the iPhone 14 Pro photos weren’t as good in the HDR department as the iPhone 13 Pro, people said I was crazy. Look at the iPhone 15 Pro with Smart HDR 5, it has improved. This is what you people need to understand.
@@MaxCaud😂Right, like Google doesn't know it will be on blast for the price increases
It's a headline, he doesn't definitively say anything really.. having said that if your upgrading from the 7 pro to the 8 pro you probably shouldn't.. benefits are minor at best
At 5:10 are you sure you didn't switch both images? The 7 Pro seems to have a wider field of view compared to the 8 pro, which can't be right. Should be the other way round.
Great comparison! I still love my Pixel 7 Pro. Hopefully they will fix Portrait mode and bring a couple of features from the 8 Pro
Portrait mode is inexplicably bad on the pixel. Like "this must be a bug" bad. "Surely they'll expedite a fix for this mess" bad. But no. They never did.
@@dallan7740I have the 7 pro, but my 5 a portraits were way better than my 7 pro.. doesn't make sense
@@jasondefelice2710 Pixel 4xl takes amaizing portraits
@@dallan7740 have the portraits improved?
@@lejeuvideo they have improved somewhat in the 8 pro (the details are less oversharpened) but it's not where it needs to be at all. The cutout around the subject is bad and the bokeh dropoff is unnatural. So yes it's better, but I rarely use it as you almost always get a better result just taking the photo normally and applying portrait blur.
The Pixel 8 Pro video was significantly better than the Pixel 7 Pro. It had lower noise, it was sharper and the colors looked more natural (the P7P grass and sky looks too cyan).
What a critic :)
The video on the 8 Pro has an unpleasant AI produced look with too much contrast. It can make people look slightly cartoon like. This was not an issue on video shot on the P7 Pro. Software tinkering needed here.
Last year video : Pixel 7 Pro vs Pixel 6 Pro: Camera Review - ACTUALLY a Downgrade?
This year video : Pixel 8 Pro vs Pixel 7 Pro Camera - An Actual DOWNGRADE?
I am going take a wild guess at next year video title... :D
" Pixel 9 Pro vs Pixel 8 Pro Camera - A DOWNGRADE Actually ?
Finally, found someone who really cares about portrait mode like me, hope google Also fixes the portrait mode on older devices like pixel 5
From what I’ve seen there’s a bug with the camera. Unfortunately Google said it’ll take a few weeks for the patch to come out
Could you provide that link?
True. Got my 8pro today. Big dissapointment. In less brighter rooms its like an old Nokia. Absolut grainy and big noise Problems on the entire Screen with selfie and Main camera. Will send it back tomorrow
I think they still need to do a better job with portrait mode, you still can't adjust blur strength before taking photos, you can't take 1x portraits without that 1.5x crop, you can't take portraits with the 5x telephoto unlike the iP15 pro max and edge detection is still not as accurate as on the comptetion.
I always felt that any phone gen that uses a new larger sensor/mp count will always lose to the last gen simply because all the ai and enhance tricks aren’t fully tuned for the new images. The following yr (S year) is where that camera shines because all the software is fully designed to make that camera produce the _best_ photos.
So id imagine that any issues in the pixel 8 pros photos will be solved in either a later software update or next gen, since this is the first year of 50 mp tele and ultra wide lens.
Not surprised at all. I find the 7 pro an incredible, flag ship label worthy device. The price drop of the 7 pro makes it all the more appealing. Most of the Pixel 8 pro improvement will be by virtue of a hand off in processing to the cloud and not on device improvement. Seems the new chip simply doesn't have the capability to do the level of processing needed. It's no match for a Qualcomm Snapdragon 8 gen 2. If you've got a 7 Pro don't upgrade - the new 8 Pro features may well come to the 7 Pro in time.
I'm sure you hear this a lot, but boy I wouldn't be surprised if someone said you are the twin brother no one knew Andrew Garfield had! Nice comparison btw.
i just realized this lol
No low light video? Thats the biggest area the 8 Pro has improved?
Hi! Pixel 7 pro users, do you know if they upgraded the camera app and improved the portrait mode?
makes no difference, the cameras have always been stellar
@MrWarxhemassive difference? Its only a $100 difference that's it so no it isnt massive like you're saying. Youre exaggerating
I think the 8 uses the 2x sensor crop for 12mp portraits, whereas the 7 zooms in 1,5x or 2x digitally, which results in 5,3mp respectively 3mp shots.
Пиксель 7про умеет использовать 50мп сенсор при кадрировании на увеличении х2 . Получается кроп в 12.5мп с 50мп матрицы. Почему он не может сделать так в портретном режиме?
You forgot the new main sensor which is Samsung gnv
For people who are saying “wait for an update”, why should you wait? Bunch of Google apologia.
Main thing I hate about my 7 Pro is it's extremely heat sensitive.
Outside in the Arizona heat more than 15 minutes the phone starts shutting down apps.
It can't handle the heat as well as my Samsung did.
So if I want to ride my bike and listen to music in the summer, I need to carry a frozen water bottle in a small freezer bag and put the phone in there or it will shut down (no music).
My 7 Pro got a lot better after upgrading to Android 14
true, google tensor chips indeed have thermal issues, they need to further optimize it especially while camera module is active
Do you know if they've said anything yet about fixing the portrait feature on the older 7pro? Im stuck choosing between the two and the portrait feature was laughably bad on the 7 pro :/
Waiting for 1 inch Phone sensors good as sony rx100. There is no point.
The reason is sometimes camera using more iso then the other time... therefore it's looking different.
After Aruns video earlier today this makes sense, as last camera was fintuned with their software so this just gotta catch up ig
I watched this, very helpful. Straight after I upgraded my Pixel7 Pro to Android 14 and then upgraded the camea app. Will be interesting to see what upgrade the camera app has
have the portriats become better?
@@lejeuvideo In my view the camera updates have improved, though I'm not a big portrait user, it has improved but have nothing to compare it with.
What equipment did you use to record this video? Thank you
One of the best camera comparison reviews i´ve seen. SO PROFESSIONAL, thanks :)
Hey Bro nice work! Can you please test the screen display of the pixel 8 pro ? I noticed that the screen is so dark when it's on 50% brightness (comparing to the S23 ultra which is much brighter --- 40% Brightness on S23 ultra = 70% of Brightness on pixel 8 pro // however, on 100% they are identical). Thanks!
They both have different incremental brightness with the slider . The pixel 8P has 2400 nits , but that only applies to auto peak brightness. In general use, or when using the manual slider , the S23 has a slightly brighter display
i wanted to upgrade from 7 pro to 8 pro but i just noticed its useless, there isnt much improvement .lemme wait for pixel 9 pro
I know this is super late, but what is your experience with the Pixel 7 Pro? Do you think it's still worth buying it? And if you've had some issues with it, tell me about them, thank you.
Honestly i'll wait for the Pixel 10, when Tensor is finally made by TSMC and not Samsung. :D
great video💯
What wallpaper app u using ??
Our own - WallpaperZ 😁
Seems like the biggest improvement in the 8pro is actually portrait mode? Thats awesome if true!
Finally a Pixel 8 Pro va Pixel 7 Pro
Thanks sooooo much 🙏🙏
In deed most vloggers think the 7Pro is from 90's :):):):)
@@harrylen1688 what? I do not understand that?
@@2Bleicher Sorry..It was a Metaphore :) for a smile!!
Better than the yellow photos from the Iphone 15 Pro Max😂😂😂😂
Pixel 8 vs 7 please also pixel 8 pro vs 8
Thanks Dan, not tempted this year! ❤xx😊
Honestly Pixel 8 pro is mostly software except the Soc. Until they actually use a bigger sensor size, the upgrade will be significant
Smartphones have pretty much reached the peak of sensor sizes, as there simply isn't any space left for bigger sensors. Except if they are gonna push smartphones way beyond the 7" mark, which is unlikely.
@@OsgoodCB are you reading Sony new double stacked sensor or 1 inch sensor?? There'll always be hardware sensor for camera and can even better than even point and shoot cam
@@sxepantFTWLet's see how such a system performs in a mobile device. It could be game changing, which means all manufacturers would be copying it in no time. Provided this is cost effective for them of course.
Two year upgrade cycle means most are coming from 6 Pro and that's a BIG upgrade
Camera wise, it's not.. even from 6 pro
@@ramqashou1002 have to disagree with you
Hola 👋 cuál me recomiendan, el pixel 6 pro o el pixel 7 pro? No tengo presupuesto para el 8 pro 😅
El 7 Pro
As usual, your comparisons are comprehensive and well researched however many of them are not that clearly different particularly when viewed on an iPad or smartphone. What might help is fewer examples with longer screen times. Maybe 🤷
Just pause the video and check till you are satisfied. It's not a live show and videos are meant for such usage.
Pixel 7 pro always better❤❤❤
We can hope for it to improves over the 7 years of update. 😂😂😂
Even if the battery is dead after three years, and the motherboard after 4. Without insurance to cover 7 years, such a hollow promise from Google is nothing more than a clever sales tactic.
Amazing Review Man, fyi you look really similar to Andrew Garfield, but anyways, waiting now on my Pixel which i ordered on XMas, so just waiting on Amazon, looks still 100% solid the 7 pro, plus social media like X, or Instagram that are constantly lowering the quality, i think it doesnt matter that much if you are really really picky.
I could accept the camera downgrade over the fingerprint sensor upgrade. If I would have to describe Pixel 7 Pro in one sentence it would be "fingerprint not recognized".
Anyway, they will make the camera better by software updates, I'm sure of it.
That's a downgrade right there fr 😂
This reminds me of the upgrade that was between pixel 2xl and pixel 3xl
AAA camera comparison vid. Thanks for your work bud!
Is the best 7 or 8????
Great comparison! The video helps me to choose the most suitable phone for myself. ❤
It seems as if the software side isn't yet optimized for the newer 8pro hardware. I'd imagine it'll improve. Also the better portrait mode is probably because of the wider aperture
what is the name of your shiba inu such a beautiful dog
All this proves is that pixel 8 pro and pixel 7 pro are kings and queens of smartphone photography.
In out of the box auto mode, Pixels take superb photos for sure. In the hands of a skilled photographer however, the Pro modes on other flagship devices deliver much better results. They are often more costly though, so the Pixel does deliver the best bang for your buck for your average snapper no doubt.
Why would you expect better sharpness from larger apature you would actually expect the opposite.
No surprise. I really don't want to upgrade unless the pixel fixes the battery life and connectivity.
Zero reasons to upgrade from the 7 pro
I was going to upgrade until I seen the colours they announced...I'll pass stick with the hazel and gold 7pro, they missed a trick not making the camera bump and side detail gold on the matte black version that would have looked sick now it looks like any average black phone
Great review love your videos. But you didn't pick which phone you would personally chose. If you see my comment let me know which phone you would choose.
With all due respect to your comparison. Just wait for more software updates. It is too early to give a verdict.
You should not have to wait for updates for a camera to be good. They do not have to wait for our money. These cameras should be ready at purchase with improvements as they go. Google relies way too much on software to improve cameras instead of putting actual good cameras in their phones from a hardware perspective.
@mjjones1045 This applies to many phones, not just google, and i was talking about overall stability, not just cameras. Samsung , Xiaomi and others don't impress on launch day too.
Let's spend a £1000 to upgrade our 7pro to the 8 pro so we can wait for a year worth of updates so it can match the 7 Pro just in time for the 9 pro launch...makes sense
@@ahmed.alnaqbi I'm not disagreeing with you on that. Everyone is relying way too much on computational photography.
@FlemoEFC1878 this is the market , your money , your choices. You're better off with an iPhone my friend.
Eraser on the camera on Pixel 8 Pro is not as good as Pixel 7 Pro. I miss my old Eraser! 😭
I hope software updates are coming. The Pixel 8 Pro camera has been getting embarrassed by the 15 Pro Max.
I was watching MacRumors video and Pixel crushed iPhone. Please watch this video. It was not even close.
😂
@@nickbromhall just so you know I'm a Pixel user.
You're not wrong, some videos the pixel looks great but in a lot of them it looks way worse than the iPhone.. I'm on a 7 pro thinking of getting the regular 8
There is no consistency in P8 Pro reviews out there. Some honestly point out areas where it needs improving, others just go into ridiculous Pixel fanboy mode and paint it as having the most perfect camera system ever fitted in any device. Why is honesty so lacking on some review channels?.
I started with samsung up till the s9, decided i wanted to try something new and switched to the one plus 7 pro which i hated, and now im using the google pixle 7 pro and its by far my favorite phone. Im officially a google fan
Newer doesnt always mean significantly better
we need a Pixel 8 Pro vs Pixel 7A camera comparison.
so bad is the Pixel 7 not !! bad marketing
It’s not looking good. I’ve seen a few comparisons to 7 pro. The 8 lost.
1 word - incosistency => meaningless " upgrade "
Pixel 8 pro will improve drastically after updates.
Not really worthy if you already have Pixel 6 or 7 series.
S21 ultra is best in price
Tbh you r fanboy of pixel 8 pro. But 7 pro is way better fr.
Google need just one software update for the 8 pro
I can give you my opinion on your analysis if you want haha
Bro is Andrew Garfield
Update plz
Thanks
I think the 8 pro uses a GN5 sensor with a size of 1/1.56
Cool
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Stupid caption.
si o no se parece a Andrew Garfield ajajjaja
Pixel is mehhhh compared to iPhone 15 pro max
Tldr, no, it's not a downgrade. Just a bad TH-camr making a bad faith comparison.
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