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@@ryw5862 True, you can blame the Thurgood Marshall led Supreme Court of the time for why those crazies are able to roam the streets. They had to release so many crazies after the Supreme Court ruled in favor of the ACLU that Reagan had to shut down most of the institutions for lack of use.
The great thing about the 1911 is that the basic design works great. Even a basic, no frills one is an outstanding pistol so if that's what you can afford, you are good to go. Let's face it, the reputation of this pistol was based on the GI model, not on the tuned one. Join the club, get one and enjoy!
Gotta go with Tisas model. Appears more accurate in hitting center of target. Colt may be better in some areas like smoother action and more modern sights plus hold its value better. Seen a few other Tisas videos and all have performed exceptionally well for a low end 1911. With more use the Tisas may become smoother as it breaks in. Have a Blessed Day
When you consider that this weapon is a simple as a rock to manufacture and has been done for over 100 years now. Anything added to improve performance is a micro upgrade to performance. Definitely not worth the price for the Colt.
yeah he did sound pretty biased to the colt, at this point anyone that buys a colt for anything other than appeal is a fool, that 400 dollar gun can go toe toe with ANY 1911 on the market as far as I'm concerned.
I bought the Tisas 1911B45 duty pistol. It was the same price as the 1911A1, $339 and has several upgrades. Novak sights, enhanced beavertail, enhanced trigger, skeletonized trigger and hammer, beveled mag well, beveled ejection port. Im in love with a Turkish girl😘
I have 3 Colts (Combat Elite .45 ACP, Delta Elite 10mm and Defender 9mm and a rock island armory GI 45 ACP. The rock shoots as well as the Colts and I like the basic, series 70 style trigger vs series 80 as the pull is better. These budget 1911s are an awesome value
I agree with you for the price, the slide to frame fit and the barrel they put in the tisas is a ridiculous bargain. It feels tighter and shoots more accurately than all the other Colts I have some of which were around $1800.
The Tisas is a better gun than the Colt. I have several of both and I’m not afraid to say that. This guy forgives all the Colt groups as “flyers “ but not the Tisas. Biased
A little white or orange paint on the front sight of the Tisas would go a long way in aquiring the sights and narrow the accuracy gap at the longer ranges.
I think your issues with the Tisas sights pretty much applies to any GI model with military sights. The biggest advantage of upgraded sights is being able to rapidly acquire the sight picture.
@Josh Smith Rock Island Govt model in 38 Super. You have to buy the versions with a tang front sight and have it installed by someone with a peening tool. The rear sight is a standard dovetail.
@Josh Smith Only the government model, and EAA/Tangfolio makes a Witness in 38 Super. A full power 38 Super tops any 9MM by a considerable margin and is still a bit faster than any responsibly loaded +P or +P+ (though no standard for +P+). Hodgdon's loading data has some safe loads for 38 Super, 115gr XTP right at 1400 fps (still within SAAMI specs). My handholds loads show that is safe and attainable. By any measure, a 38 Super is a screamer, and any 9mm loaded to those speeds is a compressed load well beyond any manufacturer approved pressure limits.
Yup, Tisas did a GREAT job of recreating the 1911A-1...right down to the convex screws for the grips. JMB designed the 1911 for battlefield conditions, so the rim of a .45ACP cartridge could be used as a field expediant screwdriver to replace a broken grip panel. In fact, in an emergency a fired .45ACP cartridge could be used as a recoil spring plug.
Just wanted to update on my 1911A1 TISAS which I purchased earlier in year. I shot it as did my son at CMP Talladega “D-Day” Match this week. (We also shot G19 Gen 5 for Military & Police Match). We both concur that The TISAS is very good and hit “X” at 25 yards numerous times. Ran flawlessly for 1st time at Range for my son and me. We shot (45)rounds each through the match which is timed and no issues. This was a “as issued 1911”match so no match barrels allowed nor adjustable sights. Great 191A1 for the money. Have not tried HP as we only shot FMJ 230gr (Creedmore manufactured) ammo. FYI- I also have two other 1911s Colt Officer’s Mark IV Series 80 (3.5 inch Barrel) and a Springfield “Loaded” (an upgraded Range Officer) so I can candidly compare the TISAS to other “high end” 1911s
The Tisas was impressive overall and surely is combat capable reminds me of my WW2 Remington Rand. Packing my Guardian Dan Wesson LW Commander but in .38 Super today.
I sure wish I lived near. I bought some 38 Super a few years ago. I can't remember what I was thinking but I think I had 38 +p in my head. Anyway, I have 300 rounds of 38 Super that is gathering dust with no plans to buy such a pistol.
I am a Colt fan. The Tisas shoots about the same as my series 70 1911 that I built from a spare slide and a Colt frame. Fitted the slide to frame , trigger to 4 lbs, left GI sights, added ambi safety. Tisas has to be considered a Best Buy. Could see getting one and leaving a Colt 22 conversion on it. Looks like your GI roots have set your eyes for dead on with the old sights. For those Cabo want a GI replica or a low cost home defense 1911 , should take a look at thecTISAS. For $1200, I would go for the Series 70 Colt Gold Cup just for the sights
I have the Tisas 4.25” Carry model. It has Novak style sights and a large ambidextrous safety. You should fire that Colt against either the Carry or the 5” Duty model. More “Apples to apples “ than with the Army version.
Regarding the "bump fire" issue that you had with the Colt. I don't think that was really a bump fire. An actual bump fire would have gone off sounding as if it came from a machine gun. Your second shot happened 1 to 1-1/2 seconds after the first shot. You actually pulled that trigger unintentionally. I've seen this before with shooters who have been shooting precision rifles a lot. It usually comes down to trigger technique. This happens if, as soon as you detect the first shot has gone off, you "arrest" the trigger pull instead of following-through on the trigger. Your finger is still holding the trigger right at the point in the press where the trigger fired the shot, so when the gun came down off of recoil the trigger finger was holding the trigger right at the point where the shot breaks - and it did. On any auto-loading firearm, when the shot goes off, pull the trigger all of the way through, and hold it back against the stop all the way through recoil. Then, when the sights come back on target, relax the hold on the trigger until you feel the trigger reset. You will never get that unintentional "bump fire" that way. What was very impressive was the day my son, who had been shooting a lot of bolt action rifles previously, took his new Armalite AR10 with a light two-stage competition trigger, to the range for the first time. He ripped off a three or four round burst of 7.62 NATO. Made the other shooters look, too! I asked him to describe his trigger pull, and he was shooting it like a bolt gun, stopping his trigger pull right at the break. Actually, 1911s have such a good light trigger pull with such a short reset (compared to all of those Glocks and Glock-shaped objects that are so popular these days) that a 1911 is probably one of the few handguns that you actually CAN bump fire. But that trigger, with that short reset, can do a double-tap to be proud of.
Thanks for another great video. I purchased the same Tisas some months back. I only had mediocre expectations. Boy was I surprised! Fitted very well, tight no rattles anywhere. Clean machining. 100% reliable with everything tried includding my Lswc reloads. Shoots better than I can. Pretty close to a WW11 era 1911A1. So I can't knock the sights, but better sight would be a big improvement.
Whenever you think about it. The 1911 has been around for 100+ years has had probably millions produced by several different countries and manufacturers. The materials are simple. It’s a basic pistol. Easy and cheap to make. The only reason I can think of when it comes to why 1911’s are so expensive is due to the fact that it has a massive cult following of very very zealous people who would do anything to dick measure their 1911’s.
About three-and-a-half years ago, I purchased the stainless version of the Tisas (all the bells and whistles incl rail) from CDNN and found it to operate just like the USA-made versions. With the exception of a slightly heavier trigger, which would probably improve with usage. Unfortunately, it never got that breaking in before I let it go a few months ago. But I still believe it was an incredible bargain at $450.
This perfectly reflects my experience. Had a Rock Island Armory GI. But as my eyes aged I couldn’t shoot it very well. Gave it to my son and bought a Kimber with sights I can see. I enjoy shooting 1911 again.
I have the Tisas Duty model with all the bells and whistles, minus the rail. I put a set of Hogue thin rubber grips on it for my stubby fingers and the only complaint after 2 years is its dislike of the cheapest magazines available, which I don't think is any different from more expensive 1911s. So really no complaints at all. I actually prefer it over the Springfield Range Officer I had.
Well done! I think this is a win win situation. Individual budgets and vision may vary, but if one is interested in a 1911, there's definitely an argument to be made for either of these options.
After watching the video carefully, I concluded that the Tisas actually did better than the Colt. Heresy? Maybe, but IMO the Tisas grouped better in spite of less than ideal sights and heavier trigger pull. A lighter trigger pull is easily achieved and the cost of better sights not that expensive keeping the total cost still well under that of the Colt. Unless one is hung up over brand names, I'd choose the Tisas. Actually, I already did and couldn't be more pleased.
I had a Colt 1991, back in the 90's, but ended up selling it. Always have been a 1911 kinda guy, though I hadn't owned a 1911 style pistol since. (Also a six shooter, hog leg kinda guy, and that's what I owned, lol.) So, fast forward to 2019, and being on a bit of a tight budget at the time, I picked up a Tisas (SDS Imports) 1911 Tanker (4 1/2" bbl). I was planning on moving up-budget (maybe even another Colt), but I have been so pleased with my Tisas, that it has become my primary EDC. Only things I've done to it is; put a new set of grips on (simulated stag), keep the front sight dotted with white paint (my eyes ain't getting younger, either), and new magazines, of course. It's accurate, and has no reliability problems, which is why I trust my life to it. I've got a more robust budget now, so I'm back in the market for a 1911, and I'm thinking about just getting another Tisas. Will leave the one I have as is, and tinkering around with the new one. Heck, for the price, one can afford to tinker with a Tisas.
I have had all kinds of 1911 Colt AMT Kimber Springfield S&W Sig. From a practical accuracy that Tisas is shooter even with the true 1911 sights vs colt off the bench. Of course sights can be replaced...but that adds cost to the gun...Especially finding a smith that does a good stake job in front sights. I like guns that chew out the center of a target!
This is a great video! The comparison is extremely indicative of both the pistol and shooter and shows the pluses of the more expensive, but also shows that the inexpensive pistol is just as effective. For me, I'll go with the Tisas. I just think it outshot ythe Colt in the first few tests you did.
Minus the fiber sight... The colt, is less accurate. Getting beaten, by $350 Turkish made piece. I'll get the tisas and put the extra bucks into ammo and range trips 👍
Cheap or expensive, gotta love a 1911, they are so tunable. Clean the trigger components up, adjust the trigger pull weight to 4lbs, and put a fiber optic sight on that cheap gun, and I bet it would be about as good as the Colt for much less money. Sure, the internal parts on the Colt are probably made from better materials, and it will wear better over time, but it's cool that one can get into a decent 1911 on the cheap... It's such a great design, good video.
Regarding wearing better over time, these days who can afford to spend enough on ammo to wear the Tisas out. Totally agree with the trigger job + fiber optic on front sight. Add accurizing/centering the barrel and you’ve got a great gun. I’ve done this with a $400 1911 and it shoots just as accurately as my STI Trojan and Colt. More credible ( I’m just a avid plinker not highly skilled) is that two friends of mine that are top IDPA shooters have tried it and confirm my results.
I have always loved the look and feel of the 1911. But it seemed also in this video he had some rounds jam or stove pipe. That was a common problem with my Colt.
I personally like the half moon front sight more for precise shooting and the larger, high visibility sights for quick aiming. I have the half moon and like it for small targets farther away and my buddies 1911 has a large squared off front sight and I like that for the dueling tree and things like that. I really like the original 1911A1 look over any newer design. Great video, thank you.
Like you, when I was 19 in combat in Vietnam in the Special Operations. I was in several gun fights where I had to use my 1911 A1 45 ACP. I didn't have any trouble winning those gun fights. I was issued a new Colt 1911 A1 45 ACP and was told to take it to the range and shoot 250 rounds to break it in. Like the Tisas my 1911 A1 45 ACP was very accrete. Growing up on a ranch, I did a lot of shooting, and some of that was with a Colt peacemaker 45 LC with a 6" barrel. My Father was a gifted shooter, he never had to use the sights no even at long-distance rifle shoots. I was not that gifted, but I could hit a deer in the eye at night at 50 yards. I can still maintain a 1.5" group at 7 Yards just pointing and shooting. I can do this with my 1911 Kimber 45 ACP and any of my 9MM x19MM hand guns. This said, your video prompted me to buy a Tisas 1911 A1, I got mind on sale for $299.00 + tax + FFL $25= $335.12. Out of the box, it shot just like you did, except for the offhand speed drills. Thank you for your good video. And thank you for your service. GOD bless
I bought the girsan Mc 1911 S in .45acp it’s more reliable than the Kimber Lc .45acp that I also own. Turkey makes some very good guns that don’t break the bank. Thank You for the comparison!
Any thoughts on comparing Tisas vs. RI? I have a Tisas 1911A1 in .45 Auto and love it but am thinking of trying Rock Island (or just staying with Tisas) for a 9mm/38 Super 1911.
Buddy, this is absolutely the best review I've found on these Tisas pistols! Now I'm sure I want to get one. Thank you for your diligence and time in testing. Imagine the Tisas with upgraded sights and a trigger job! At that price you could certainly afford to put some extras on it.
With the Tisas, you now have an affordable introduction to the world of the 1911. The $800 difference allows you to get the accessories, better components and such and build your 1911 up to what you want it to be.
When I was wounded in the Marines, Special Services would bring plastic model kits for us to make during our recovery (often there would be a note from a church saying 'this model kit was donated by Lisa or George' and you could send a thank you note to that person.) It was really appreciated! The best part was the flat modelers paint we used to make the kits. So back in 1969 I would use a Testors flat white on the M1911 & M 1911A1 front sight as a base coat (2 coats) and follow that up with flat bright Yellow coats (2 coats.) (If you had a little bleed onto the side it could be wiped off easily with a paper towel, if dry with a paper towel and Testors paint thinner.) When the paint dried it adhered to the serrated surface perfectly. I then practiced to make small perfect circles with just the flat white modeler's paint and I centered the dot below the square sight cutout (again 2 coats). It made a bright exclamation sight easily picked by the eye, and worked wonderfully for stock 1911 sights! You could put flat clear coat over your work but it slightly dulled the vibrant colors so I usually didn't. There used to be a lot of issue 1911's and 1911A1's out there so modified...
Fine objective testing format. I own Colts, Springfield's , Wilson, Ed Brown & Les Baer and enjoy them all!! The Tisa's I have recently acquired are simply a tremendous overall value and not just in a financial sense. They are excellent quality and perform just as well. Give them a try. Again this was a fine test video & if someone is new to the 1911 game, this is a fine reference video!
Great video as always I've been watching your videos for several years now and remember the one on the American Classic 1911 that you had bought at Tom's Gun room in Wooster Ohio also a great video, I recently learned that Tom had passed away and so did his daughter Tammy that did the paperwork there, keep making the great videos 👍👍
I probably won't ever need to buy another 1911 but it's good to know that affordable versions exist. I would be curious how the "Officer" size models run.
I recently shot my Dan Wesson Valor 5" 45acp and my Rock Island CS 3.5" 45acp. The Valor was close to a $2000 gun and the Rock Island $500+ I shoot the Rock Island more accurately, but no one can give me a good reason why.
@@hrfunk , shot it for 1st time at match(all I did was clean). Came in 11th out of 24 and shot great with several “X.” With more practice should be a great shooter and can’t beat the price for an Identical Replica of 1911 USGI
The Tisas for CQB will work. I started shooting Colt G.I. in the late 60's. THEN I could hit 25 yds. no problem. Today, with 70 year old eyes I need the fiber optic or a good white dot. Best to ya',,,,!
I'm looking forward to the video comparing the higher Tisas to the Colt. It seem like the big difference between the two guns in this test was more configuration vs quality. while watching, I was searching to see if Tisas made a higher spec gun (specifically with better sights), which, as you said at the end of the video, they do. The other option would be to borrow a GI spec colt (which you could likely do without having actually buy another gun), and test that against the GI spec Tisas.
The fact that the tisas was preforming on par with the colt as the standard GI configuration is true testament to how well that gun is made. I think a better comparison would be one tisas more modern style offerings. But still great content as always.
Howard, there is something I think you might like to look into. I have no personal interest in this product, other than I think it is a good one and deserves to succeed. Recently I bought some newer variations on revolver speedloaders, to see if anything better has come along. I like full moon clips, but not all revolvers are cut for them and getting cylinders cut can be expensive. I have always used the standard HKs, but have tried others when they crop up. The Safariland loaders are nice but far too bulky for every day or even field carry, and especially not concealed carry. Rubber strips are handy, but slow. A few months ago I bought a couple of Zeta6, six shot loaders, played with them a few minutes, then put them in a drawer. Pulled them out again a few days ago and looked at them more in-depth. They are basically a rubber strip... in a circle. You really should try these. They are quite fast to figure out and, in my mind, far more dependable. Right now, they are only available for 38/357. I started a conversation with them a couple days ago about a 44sp/44mag version, which would be right up "our" alley. Anyway, they have been sending samples to the also-rans on youtube and had no positive results, because of that poor choice. I suggested they contact you. I suggested they just send you some gratis samples, but you may prefer something different.
@@hrfunk Sorry, I neglected to include a link. Didn't mean to send you on a treasure hunt. Here it is: zetasix.com/product/k-clip/ If worse comes to worse, I can just send you a couple of mine. I have more on the way.
davidkachel, I bought some Zeta6 speed loaders as well as a few of their 6-round strips, which are curved and allow three rounds to be loaded at a time. Both are improvements on traditional competitors and are now my go-to choices for my carry revolvers. I don't know why they aren't more popular than they are. In addition to being reliable and easy to use, they don't "drag" in my pocket because they are so light.
I bought the TISA because I wanted a GI model like I carried in the Army. I can tell you that the pistol has a much better trigger than the old GI models and so far, has been very forgiving on ammo, but not magazines. I would think that the better sights alone would give you a significant advantage at the longer ranges. Still, I managed to qualify expert every time on the Army Qualification course and I would have every confidence that I could do it with this one too.
I just received a Tisas as you used here. From 25 yards you certainly did well with Government sights on the Tisas in my opinion. Shooting my old Ruger 9mm with my Brother-in-law many years ago, he smoked me good. But then again, he had the advantage of U. S. Marine training while serving in Vietnam. Thank you for a well explained concise video.
Your Tisas performs much like mine, capable of 1 inch groups at 7 yards shooting freehand, with my glasses on LOL. POI was better with the Tisas. A dash of orange paint on the front sight would help the Tisas, but that would ruin the nostalgic appearance of the pistol. I do appreciate the beaver tail grip safeties and better sights on modern 1911s.
The Army Military Police had us shooting the 45 out to 50 yards . Mud and water flying everywhere and once in a while you’d actually hit the full silhouette 🫣. Yea it would serve to keep an attacker off you but that’s about it in combat, besides you had an M16 for that type of thing. I never wanted one of these for work as they were just too darned heavy . Even the 686 Smith they issued us left a blue bruise on your hip after a long day. You do get a real appreciation for these things especially these days when agencies demand you carry more crap on your belt than Batman. Great gun for it’s day but not so well suited for modern times. I just bought a Tisas and haven’t even shot it yet as I’m waiting for my ( reasonably priced) batch of empty brass to come in. Nice gun in fit and form. It’s far nicer than what I was issued back when. Colt sure never sent them with a Stainless barrel .
The ATF has determined "bump fire fingers" must be registered as machine guns, HA. Suffice to say that there is not $800 worth of difference in accuracy and performance between the two. Some will mention future "resale value" but I don't "re-sell" so that's not an issue for me. If it were, I would compare the % ROI ( or "loss on investment") and I bet they would be pretty equal there, also. I think you also show the value of the sights for "combat" drills. Tisas makes models with better sights also. I've heard the proper pronunciation is "Titsass" but I haven't confirmed the source.
@@Beuwen_The_Dragon True. Yet I own 3 Colts and 2 Kimbers, so I have no personal desire to own the Tisas 1911, BUT I do own a Tisas Regent BR9 High Power clone and it is a great value. I think it comes down to what you want to spend your money on and I am pretty satisfied Tisas is a good value. How will they last over the next 100 years? Who knows? But, as you say, you can buy 2 spares for the same price.
I love this sick '80s intro Hahahahahah I also love that when you show up the Colt you completely cover it with your hand instead of just like I don't know gripping it differently and then wiping it down after you've touched the frame for 2 seconds
It looks to me the Tisas appeared to be the more accurate pistol to me in the pure accuracy test. My question would be is the sights worth $800. Thanks for the video.
If anything the Tisas did appear to be a bit more mechanically accurate. Still, as I said, the sites and the trigger made a big difference when the clock was running.
I wish more guns were hand fitted. I just checked out two new Colt competitions, one was tight, no rattle besides the beaver tail safety. The other had alot of frame to slide play.
Good morning HR. One other advantage of the Colt is that it will hold it's value better. Over the years the only Colt I've had a problem with was a little Officers model. It would sometimes stop just short of lockup. And now for something completely different. Do you know of anywhere to get Masada magazines? Everyone seems to be out of the 17 round mags, even IWI.
Small sights? Orange and white nail polish is your friend. A base coat of white, let dry, then follow up with a coat of orange. Works wonders for my 70 year old eyes.
I love my Tisas 1911 A1. It looks great and works very well. My problem is that I can't leave well enough alone and just have to tinker and try to improve it. The sights are the only feature that drove me crazy because I like to shoot small groups and it isn't easy with the Tisas with my 65 year old eyes. If I was to buy another Tisas 1911 I would choose one of the slightly pricier models with the larger sights. Thank you for another great video. I have been looking forward to this one.
Great video! Man, I'm glad the Tisas 1911s are getting some well deserved attention. I picked up a Tisas 1911 stainless Duty model, came with a hard case, cleaning tool, bushing tool, and 2 magazines for just over $500, amazing deal. Hasn't had one failure yet, definitely one of my favorite handguns now.
Is a Colt worth the extra money? Only if you want the name Colt on the pistol. If you want performance and don't want to spend a lot of money on a forged steel frame 1911, I think Tisas is the best deal going. Mind you, I see little wrong with Girsan, Taurus, Springfield, Remington, Ruger, and the plethora of Filipino imports. My personal favorites right now are a Magnum Research (great trigger out of the box) and Dan Wesson (solid feel and smooth operation).
@@hrfunk I know, that's why I mentioned the Tisas specifically and separated it from the other manufacturers/importers (most of which use cast frames). I see how my comment could be misconstrued.
I've had a bump fire with both my Walther PPK/S and Beretta Bobcat. Those triggers in single action mode are so light. Obviously my fault and a grip issue and not a problem with the guns.
Happy to see more Tisas comparison videos popping up out there. It’s a serious contender in the 1911 world but people are still resistant to the idea that it can possibly be any good for that price. I’d definitely like to see a more direct comparison between a Tisas B45 or another model with upgrades sights, and the Colt. And ultimately, I’d like to see Tisas vs Rock Island, which is Tisas’ nearest competitor, and the one that everyone refers to as THE budget 1911. With Tisas around I don’t think that’s true, but I’ve yet to see a direct comparison.
I found an upgraded Tisas for about $100. More than the GI. It’s got fiber optic front sights and adjustable rear. Skeletonized trigger and hammer and a few more improvements. Now that would be a equal tests even though the GI madel did good ! Great Video !
BTW I did the tune up & was not real happy at the time it needed one NIB , I now know how to do one & work on a 1911 , I had no clue before that . The builder could have done the same work in about 5 Min .
I think the concept of hand finishing a firearm has faded into history. Nowdays, however a part comes out of the CNC machine is considered good enough.
@@chrispetersen113 I learned from U tube vids , done by top builders ... look around & see if you can get some tune up tips . The same idea will work for any gun . If I only had 1 carry gun , I would go over it & look for areas I could clean up . It will make a difference . Don't over do it , you can always go back & hit it again if needed .
@@hrfunk Except for Nighthawk Custom. "One Gun, One Gunsmith," is their motto. They even hand fit the guide rod onto the barrel. Of course, they're hideously expensive, and you can still end up with a lemon.
The Colt seems to consistently shoot low at all ranges and both loads. I suspect that this is due to a straight mainspring housing. I have found that the arched mainspring brings the bore straighter in line and shoots close to point of aim.
I was wondering about a few videos i`ve seen where they were talking about the basic type of sight design used witch is target or combat both of witch have different zero points. Am I not correct on that note ?
Back in the 70's, when shooting a Army version 1911 (or 03, Garand or Carbine), Wite-out was your friend. Quick and easy to apply to front sight and almost as easy to remove. Nowadays I use Glow-on paint with a clear nail polish seal, green on blued and bubblegum (orange) on stainless.
Howard, really interesting results between the Tisas vs Colt. I think that someone on a budget who wants a 1911, can't go wrong with the Tisas based on your results. Maybe put upgraded sights and have a good shooting 1911 at the end of the day. I carry one of two full size 1911's in 45 acp as my primary EDC and home defense. One a Kimber and the other a Springfield. Both around $1,000 retail. My concern has always been that should I ever have to use my 1911 in a defensive shooting, it will end up in a police evidence locker for some unknown period of time. The question being whether I would get it back if ever. Maybe switching to a Tisas as an EDC instead should that end up in a police locker, it would be less painful from a financial perspective. But I suppose I'm putting money on my life and the life of my family. My life and the life of my wife are far more valuable than $1,000. So I guess I answered my own question. Thank you as always for insightful video content.
Own a Wilson Combat 1911 in 45 acp and 9mm. Both shoot 25 yd bullseye better than me. I've got a few others for just plinking, but the WC 1911s are worth the money (and easily configured). Good video informative as always.
Very informative. For my purposes, for concealed carry, either one is fine, at real world gunfight distances. (3 to 5 yard average range) The Tisas performance was amazingly good. Thanks HR.
I bought my Tisas 1911 in OD Green two years ago for $386 new, put 3,500 rds through it now and it is still performing with the original parts. I've shot steel case, brass case all 230gr ball ammo with not one single malfunction. I bought an Auto Ordnance Stainless by Khar Industries for $1,100 and it performs well with better sights yadda yadda yadda but that's a given ... they both perform well and I shoot both.
Hello. Been watching your videos for awhile. Was wondering if you could share your experience and training with how your departments had made their plans on dealing with active shooter(s)? Generally and specifically in schools. How about your time in the military as well with dealing with those types of incidents.
That would take a long response and probably get into some areas better not put out in the public domain. The short version is I was a US Marine MP from 1985-1989. After leaving the Corps, I became a civilian law enforcment officer. That career lasted until this past year. I'm currently employed by a private security firm. During my life, I've had extensve training in the handling/use of firearms; and I try to pass on much of what I've learned in my videos.
If you don't mind me chiming in, 33 years a police officer, 8 years active duty, 12 reserve, with extensive active shooter training. Every LE agency in my area, had the same exact training. You respond and first two to five Officers, to get there, with patrol rifles, and rifle grade helmet and vests, form up, and run to the sound of the gunfight, without any delay, and take out the shooter(s) immediately. . That was my training in central Texas, not long after Columbine, and 9/11. That is the way it is to be carried out. When gunfire is ongoing, there should NEVER. NEVER be any delay, as you know every shot fired by the active shooter, means a life is being taken.
@@LoneStarLawman In more recent years, the doctrine has changed to what's called SORAT, or Single Officer Response to an Active Threat. Essentially, what's been discovered is that waiting for a group of 3 or 4 officers to arrive requires too much time. So now, the first officer on scene is tasked with making an entry and attempting to stop the threat.
I own a colt combat commander satin finish from 1970's, .45 70 series and just purchased a new colt combat commander.80 series, .both are excellent. My rock island fs ultra is a full size and is also an excellent firearm..very accurate and fit and finish superb quality.
how did the barrel look after sending those all-lead semi wads? I've put all lead through my 45 cal revolver before but not my automatic 45. it seemed tricky not to push the lead too hard and end up with a leaded barrel. last time I loaded bullets I was unable to get fmj conveniently. the semi wads performed awesome though...i used 200gr bullets.
Many of the semi-wadcutters were keyholing out of both pistols indicating they were undersized for the barrel to properly stabilize them. Great job on an excellent and fair evaluation of practical accuracy for both.
I would rather have 3 Tisas 1911A1s than 1 colt. Accuracy and reliability are equal. You can always upgrade the sights for a nominal price. I see a lot of shooters who employ the thumbs forward grip activate the slide stop. If you grip the gun the way the Marine Corp taught you that would not happen. Basically the Israeli grip or what we might call the low thumb grip. By the way, I love my Tisas 1911A1. Puts them all in one hole at 7 yards and never a malfunction.
I know, I know. The problem is trying to come up with one grip that works with all handguns. I might just go back to the Marine Corps grip because it also works equally well with revolvers.
Great video! I ordered the Tisas pistol yesterday from Rural King for an incredible Black Friday price of $299.00. Bought mine more for nostalgia than anything, as I spent 31 years in the US Army (1978-2009).
This is the model 1911 that I qualified with as a Midshipman on summer cruise in 1972. Only this one is tight and hasn't been subjected to 30 years of abuse. I'm not a 1911 guy. My "go to war" pistol is a Glock 21, .45 with an integrated laser in the guide rod. It is sinfully accurate and a delight to shoot, but not as much fun as the Tisas. I point-shoot with the Tiasus to 15 yards. After that, it's iron sights and my eyes ain't what they used to be. A special forces buddy asked me what ammo I shot. Round nose 230 grain. It's like hurling bowling balls! It will merrily plow its way through denim, tissue, bone, and barrier. Hallowm points are no sweat for the Tisas, I just prefer round nose.
A 1911 comparison? That’s like comparing a Nash and a Rambler. An Edsel and a Model A. Interesting but, what is the point? Both outdated and obsoleted! Now that I fired up about 20 people, those diehard 1911 fans, let me say this: Glock……just buy a Glock!😜😂😜🤪🤪🤪🤪😜
Just like the Military did? Oh wait they bought a SIG. Well like Border Patrol, Arizona DPS, did? Oh wait they bought HK. I bought one BLOCK 19.and don't particularly like it.
Age catches up to us all HR, shooting is a depreciating skill with age. I use to be a Master class shooter, now I am just clinging on to expert. But I still love shooting!!!
Finally a practical test comparison!!! You have opened my mind to why i should spend more money for better gun. If your going to carry and want all the odds possible in your favor, the Colt should be your answer
Love my Tisas! I have the commander size carry model with Novak sights, bump on the safety, skeletonize trigger and hammer. I paid $375 new. Will Be buying a full-size soon.
Just bought my Tisas for $389 and it’s outstanding. My first 1911 so no other experience but I do own multiple other firearms and I would recommend it to all who want a reliable and affordable 1911. I’ll pile on here as well, needs upgraded sights.
All: As a sign of respect to the victims of the tragedy in Uvalde, Texas, I have canceled the video premiere previously scheduled for 0800 this morning. The video has been rescheduled to Premier at the same time this coming Saturday morning.
May God be with those lost in Uvalde and their families.
Good goin HR, although if we had more lunatic control we would need far less gun control.
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@@ryw5862 True, you can blame the Thurgood Marshall led Supreme Court of the time for why those crazies are able to roam the streets. They had to release so many crazies after the Supreme Court ruled in favor of the ACLU that Reagan had to shut down most of the institutions for lack of use.
The great thing about the 1911 is that the basic design works great. Even a basic, no frills one is an outstanding pistol so if that's what you can afford, you are good to go. Let's face it, the reputation of this pistol was based on the GI model, not on the tuned one. Join the club, get one and enjoy!
As long as you don't stay away from Taurus 😅
@@simonwelser6973 I have 2 PT1911s. 😁
@@dangerman007 do they shoot well? I’ve just once tried it at a shooting range and they were terrible. Since then, I stay away from Taurus 😬
@@simonwelser6973 Let me put it this way: First shot out of the box was a dead-on bullseye @ 7 yards.
@@simonwelser6973 Let me put it this way: First shot out of the box was a dead-on bullseye @ 7 yards.
Gotta go with Tisas model. Appears more accurate in hitting center of target. Colt may be better in some areas like smoother action and more modern sights plus hold its value better. Seen a few other Tisas videos and all have performed exceptionally well for a low end 1911. With more use the Tisas may become smoother as it breaks in. Have a Blessed Day
Michael, these are not target pistols.
When you consider that this weapon is a simple as a rock to manufacture and has been done for over 100 years now. Anything added to improve performance is a micro upgrade to performance. Definitely not worth the price for the Colt.
@@yeetusmcjesus1596at present it seems you are mainly paying for the name Colt more than the actual firearm
yeah he did sound pretty biased to the colt, at this point anyone that buys a colt for anything other than appeal is a fool, that 400 dollar gun can go toe toe with ANY 1911 on the market as far as I'm concerned.
@@arielvera6169 i agree. the tisas duty models are ~$550 with better sights than the good ol GI. pretty cool guns either way
I bought the Tisas 1911B45 duty pistol. It was the same price as the 1911A1, $339 and has several upgrades. Novak sights, enhanced beavertail, enhanced trigger, skeletonized trigger and hammer, beveled mag well, beveled ejection port. Im in love with a Turkish girl😘
I have 3 Colts (Combat Elite .45 ACP, Delta Elite 10mm and Defender 9mm and a rock island armory GI 45 ACP. The rock shoots as well as the Colts and I like the basic, series 70 style trigger vs series 80 as the pull is better. These budget 1911s are an awesome value
I agree with you for the price, the slide to frame fit and the barrel they put in the tisas is a ridiculous bargain. It feels tighter and shoots more accurately than all the other Colts I have some of which were around $1800.
This guy must not drink coffee or whiskey. His hand is too steady.
@@mrfarts5176 Lol this comment actually made me chuckle
The Tisas is a better gun than the Colt. I have several of both and I’m not afraid to say that. This guy forgives all the Colt groups as “flyers “ but not the Tisas. Biased
A little white or orange paint on the front sight of the Tisas would go a long way in aquiring the sights and narrow the accuracy gap at the longer ranges.
I think your issues with the Tisas sights pretty much applies to any GI model with military sights. The biggest advantage of upgraded sights is being able to rapidly acquire the sight picture.
@Josh Smith I installed Trijicon tritium sights on mine, much much better now.
@Josh Smith Rock Island Govt model in 38 Super. You have to buy the versions with a tang front sight and have it installed by someone with a peening tool. The rear sight is a standard dovetail.
@Josh Smith You can find them at Optics Planet along with other sites.
@Josh Smith Only the government model, and EAA/Tangfolio makes a Witness in 38 Super. A full power 38 Super tops any 9MM by a considerable margin and is still a bit faster than any responsibly loaded +P or +P+ (though no standard for +P+). Hodgdon's loading data has some safe loads for 38 Super, 115gr XTP right at 1400 fps (still within SAAMI specs). My handholds loads show that is safe and attainable. By any measure, a 38 Super is a screamer, and any 9mm loaded to those speeds is a compressed load well beyond any manufacturer approved pressure limits.
You were comparing different sighting systems as opposed to different pistols. An appropriate comparison would be between pistols with similar sights.
I really like the classic look of the Tisas. It looks like what they were using during WWI, WWII, and Korea. Beautiful pistol. Great video as always.
Thank you!
Yup, Tisas did a GREAT job of recreating the 1911A-1...right down to the convex screws for the grips.
JMB designed the 1911 for battlefield conditions, so the rim of a .45ACP cartridge could be used as a field expediant screwdriver to replace a broken grip panel.
In fact, in an emergency a fired .45ACP cartridge could be used as a recoil spring plug.
@@jefflockaby702Also, the Turkish 🇹🇷 special forces use the 1911.
And Vietnam... and Grenada... and Panama....and Desert Storm
@@jefflockaby702I didn't know about the field expedient recoil spring plug. I'll keep it in mind if I should launch the plug across the desert 🏜.
Just wanted to update on my 1911A1 TISAS which I purchased earlier in year. I shot it as did my son at CMP Talladega “D-Day” Match this week. (We also shot G19 Gen 5 for Military & Police Match). We both concur that The TISAS is very good and hit “X” at 25 yards numerous times. Ran flawlessly for 1st time at Range for my son and me. We shot (45)rounds each through the match which is timed and no issues. This was a “as issued 1911”match so no match barrels allowed nor adjustable sights. Great 191A1 for the money. Have not tried HP as we only shot FMJ 230gr (Creedmore manufactured) ammo. FYI- I also have two other 1911s Colt Officer’s Mark IV Series 80 (3.5 inch Barrel) and a Springfield “Loaded” (an upgraded Range Officer) so I can candidly compare the TISAS to other “high end” 1911s
The Tisas was impressive overall and surely is combat capable reminds me of my WW2 Remington Rand. Packing my Guardian Dan Wesson LW Commander but in .38 Super today.
I sure wish I lived near. I bought some 38 Super a few years ago. I can't remember what I was thinking but I think I had 38 +p in my head. Anyway, I have 300 rounds of 38 Super that is gathering dust with no plans to buy such a pistol.
Hey Rick! Can you email me about that ammo hrfunk@zoominternet.net
I am a Colt fan. The Tisas shoots about the same as my series 70 1911 that I built from a spare slide and a Colt frame. Fitted the slide to frame , trigger to 4 lbs, left GI sights, added ambi safety. Tisas has to be considered a Best Buy. Could see getting one and leaving a Colt 22 conversion on it. Looks like your GI roots have set your eyes for dead on with the old sights. For those Cabo want a GI replica or a low cost home defense 1911 , should take a look at thecTISAS. For $1200, I would go for the Series 70 Colt Gold Cup just for the sights
I have the Tisas 4.25” Carry model. It has Novak style sights and a large ambidextrous safety. You should fire that Colt against either the Carry or the 5” Duty model. More “Apples to apples “ than with the Army version.
Regarding the "bump fire" issue that you had with the Colt. I don't think that was really a bump fire. An actual bump fire would have gone off sounding as if it came from a machine gun. Your second shot happened 1 to 1-1/2 seconds after the first shot. You actually pulled that trigger unintentionally.
I've seen this before with shooters who have been shooting precision rifles a lot. It usually comes down to trigger technique. This happens if, as soon as you detect the first shot has gone off, you "arrest" the trigger pull instead of following-through on the trigger. Your finger is still holding the trigger right at the point in the press where the trigger fired the shot, so when the gun came down off of recoil the trigger finger was holding the trigger right at the point where the shot breaks - and it did.
On any auto-loading firearm, when the shot goes off, pull the trigger all of the way through, and hold it back against the stop all the way through recoil. Then, when the sights come back on target, relax the hold on the trigger until you feel the trigger reset. You will never get that unintentional "bump fire" that way.
What was very impressive was the day my son, who had been shooting a lot of bolt action rifles previously, took his new Armalite AR10 with a light two-stage competition trigger, to the range for the first time. He ripped off a three or four round burst of 7.62 NATO. Made the other shooters look, too! I asked him to describe his trigger pull, and he was shooting it like a bolt gun, stopping his trigger pull right at the break.
Actually, 1911s have such a good light trigger pull with such a short reset (compared to all of those Glocks and Glock-shaped objects that are so popular these days) that a 1911 is probably one of the few handguns that you actually CAN bump fire. But that trigger, with that short reset, can do a double-tap to be proud of.
Trigger control and trigger reset is everything. What you master that see how your accuracy will improve. The key is drying firing every day.
This was awesome. It would be great to see more of these with budget revolvers vs smiths and rugers.
Thanks for another great video.
I purchased the same Tisas some months back. I only had mediocre expectations. Boy was I surprised!
Fitted very well, tight no rattles anywhere. Clean machining. 100% reliable with everything tried includding my Lswc reloads. Shoots better than I can. Pretty close to a WW11 era 1911A1. So I can't knock the sights, but better sight would be a big improvement.
I love to bird hunt with a 1911.
Whenever you think about it. The 1911 has been around for 100+ years has had probably millions produced by several different countries and manufacturers. The materials are simple. It’s a basic pistol. Easy and cheap to make. The only reason I can think of when it comes to why 1911’s are so expensive is due to the fact that it has a massive cult following of very very zealous people who would do anything to dick measure their 1911’s.
@mrfarts5176 - Yeah I get you. Tired of taking ostrich and emu but can't seem to find a decent group to join for hunting terrordactyl
@@grayrider1865 ...and it's not a Colt 45 unless it's 8% alcohol
I seem to recall manufacturers other than Colt stamped on the frames of our issued 1911s when I was in the Marine Corps.
About three-and-a-half years ago, I purchased the stainless version of the Tisas (all the bells and whistles incl rail) from CDNN and found it to operate just like the USA-made versions. With the exception of a slightly heavier trigger, which would probably improve with usage. Unfortunately, it never got that breaking in before I let it go a few months ago. But I still believe it was an incredible bargain at $450.
The one I recently bought cost a little over $600 including tax, shipping and FFL fee of 25 bucks.
I just bought one today with G10 grips & fiber optic front sight for $450 out the door & I can’t find anything to complain about.
@@Go2Sleep87where did you buy yours?
This perfectly reflects my experience. Had a Rock Island Armory GI. But as my eyes aged I couldn’t shoot it very well. Gave it to my son and bought a Kimber with sights I can see. I enjoy shooting 1911 again.
I have the Tisas Duty model with all the bells and whistles, minus the rail. I put a set of Hogue thin rubber grips on it for my stubby fingers and the only complaint after 2 years is its dislike of the cheapest magazines available, which I don't think is any different from more expensive 1911s. So really no complaints at all. I actually prefer it over the Springfield Range Officer I had.
Thanks Mr. Funk! Great comparison! I personally own a Tisas carry model and the value can't be beat!
Well done! I think this is a win win situation. Individual budgets and vision may vary, but if one is interested in a 1911, there's definitely an argument to be made for either of these options.
After watching the video carefully, I concluded that the Tisas actually did better than the Colt. Heresy? Maybe, but IMO the Tisas grouped better in spite of less than ideal sights and heavier trigger pull. A lighter trigger pull is easily achieved and the cost of better sights not that expensive keeping the total cost still well under that of the Colt. Unless one is hung up over brand names, I'd choose the Tisas. Actually, I already did and couldn't be more pleased.
I had a Colt 1991, back in the 90's, but ended up selling it. Always have been a 1911 kinda guy, though I hadn't owned a 1911 style pistol since. (Also a six shooter, hog leg kinda guy, and that's what I owned, lol.) So, fast forward to 2019, and being on a bit of a tight budget at the time, I picked up a Tisas (SDS Imports) 1911 Tanker (4 1/2" bbl). I was planning on moving up-budget (maybe even another Colt), but I have been so pleased with my Tisas, that it has become my primary EDC. Only things I've done to it is; put a new set of grips on (simulated stag), keep the front sight dotted with white paint (my eyes ain't getting younger, either), and new magazines, of course. It's accurate, and has no reliability problems, which is why I trust my life to it. I've got a more robust budget now, so I'm back in the market for a 1911, and I'm thinking about just getting another Tisas. Will leave the one I have as is, and tinkering around with the new one. Heck, for the price, one can afford to tinker with a Tisas.
A great video. A fair comparison for the two guns.
I have had all kinds of 1911 Colt AMT Kimber Springfield S&W Sig. From a practical accuracy that Tisas is shooter even with the true 1911 sights vs colt off the bench. Of course sights can be replaced...but that adds cost to the gun...Especially finding a smith that does a good stake job in front sights. I like guns that chew out the center of a target!
This is a great video! The comparison is extremely indicative of both the pistol and shooter and shows the pluses of the more expensive, but also shows that the inexpensive pistol is just as effective. For me, I'll go with the Tisas. I just think it outshot ythe Colt in the first few tests you did.
Thank you Steve!
Minus the fiber sight...
The colt, is less accurate.
Getting beaten, by $350 Turkish made piece.
I'll get the tisas and put the extra bucks into ammo and range trips 👍
Cheap or expensive, gotta love a 1911, they are so tunable. Clean the trigger components up, adjust the trigger pull weight to 4lbs, and put a fiber optic sight on that cheap gun, and I bet it would be about as good as the Colt for much less money. Sure, the internal parts on the Colt are probably made from better materials, and it will wear better over time, but it's cool that one can get into a decent 1911 on the cheap... It's such a great design, good video.
Regarding wearing better over time, these days who can afford to spend enough on ammo to wear the Tisas out. Totally agree with the trigger job + fiber optic on front sight. Add accurizing/centering the barrel and you’ve got a great gun. I’ve done this with a $400 1911 and it shoots just as accurately as my STI Trojan and Colt. More credible ( I’m just a avid plinker not highly skilled) is that two friends of mine that are top IDPA shooters have tried it and confirm my results.
I have always loved the look and feel of the 1911. But it seemed also in this video he had some rounds jam or stove pipe. That was a common problem with my Colt.
p.s. In late May, 2022, SDS IMPORTS, 1911 Duty B45R, 45ACP, Full Size, Cerakote Rail.
Kentucky Gun Co.'s retail price: $482.03.
I personally like the half moon front sight more for precise shooting and the larger, high visibility sights for quick aiming. I have the half moon and like it for small targets farther away and my buddies 1911 has a large squared off front sight and I like that for the dueling tree and things like that. I really like the original 1911A1 look over any newer design.
Great video, thank you.
You're welcome Justin. Thanks for watching!
That Tisas kicked that Expensive Colts Ass.
It certainly did perform well.
Like you, when I was 19 in combat in Vietnam in the Special Operations. I was in several gun fights where I had to use my 1911 A1 45 ACP. I didn't have any trouble winning those gun fights. I was issued a new Colt 1911 A1 45 ACP and was told to take it to the range and shoot 250 rounds to break it in. Like the Tisas my 1911 A1 45 ACP was very accrete. Growing up on a ranch, I did a lot of shooting, and some of that was with a Colt peacemaker 45 LC with a 6" barrel. My Father was a gifted shooter, he never had to use the sights no even at long-distance rifle shoots. I was not that gifted, but I could hit a deer in the eye at night at 50 yards. I can still maintain a 1.5" group at 7 Yards just pointing and shooting. I can do this with my 1911 Kimber 45 ACP and any of my 9MM x19MM hand guns. This said, your video prompted me to buy a Tisas 1911 A1, I got mind on sale for $299.00 + tax + FFL $25= $335.12. Out of the box, it shot just like you did, except for the offhand speed drills. Thank you for your good video. And thank you for your service. GOD bless
My pleasure, Sir. Thank YOU for your service to our country.
I bought the girsan Mc 1911 S in .45acp it’s more reliable than the Kimber Lc .45acp that I also own. Turkey makes some very good guns that don’t break the bank. Thank You for the comparison!
I just picked up a Tisas U.S. Army 1911A1 Thursday for a Vietnam Veterans show down in Paltaka Fl, it looks great, haven't fired it yet though.
If your experience mirrors mine, I think you’re going to be quite happy. Thanks for watching!
@@hrfunk SEMPER FI MARINE
@@anraegodley-cooper6321 Semper Fi!
Great vid Chief!!! Love my Tisas and RI 1911s
Any thoughts on comparing Tisas vs. RI? I have a Tisas 1911A1 in .45 Auto and love it but am thinking of trying Rock Island (or just staying with Tisas) for a 9mm/38 Super 1911.
I’ve got an RIA 1911, so maybe I’ll compare it to the Tisas in a future video.
Buddy, this is absolutely the best review I've found on these Tisas pistols! Now I'm sure I want to get one. Thank you for your diligence and time in testing. Imagine the Tisas with upgraded sights and a trigger job! At that price you could certainly afford to put some extras on it.
Just as an FYI, I have several more recent reviews on their pistols. If you search my channel, you'll find them. Thanks for watching!
With the Tisas, you now have an affordable introduction to the world of the 1911. The $800 difference allows you to get the accessories, better components and such and build your 1911 up to what you want it to be.
What accessories to a 1911?
When I was wounded in the Marines, Special Services would bring plastic model kits for us to make during our recovery (often there would be a note from a church saying 'this model kit was donated by Lisa or George' and you could send a thank you note to that person.) It was really appreciated! The best part was the flat modelers paint we used to make the kits. So back in 1969 I would use a Testors flat white on the M1911 & M 1911A1 front sight as a base coat (2 coats) and follow that up with flat bright Yellow coats (2 coats.) (If you had a little bleed onto the side it could be wiped off easily with a paper towel, if dry with a paper towel and Testors paint thinner.) When the paint dried it adhered to the serrated surface perfectly. I then practiced to make small perfect circles with just the flat white modeler's paint and I centered the dot below the square sight cutout (again 2 coats). It made a bright exclamation sight easily picked by the eye, and worked wonderfully for stock 1911 sights! You could put flat clear coat over your work but it slightly dulled the vibrant colors so I usually didn't. There used to be a lot of issue 1911's and 1911A1's out there so modified...
Thanks for a great post and Semper Fi!
Fine objective testing format. I own Colts, Springfield's , Wilson, Ed Brown & Les Baer and enjoy them all!! The Tisa's I have recently acquired are simply a tremendous overall value and not just in a financial sense. They are excellent quality and perform just as well. Give them a try. Again this was a fine test video & if someone is new to the 1911 game, this is a fine reference video!
Thanks James!
Great video as always I've been watching your videos for several years now and remember the one on the American Classic 1911 that you had bought at Tom's Gun room in Wooster Ohio also a great video, I recently learned that Tom had passed away and so did his daughter Tammy that did the paperwork there, keep making the great videos 👍👍
I probably won't ever need to buy another 1911 but it's good to know that affordable versions exist. I would be curious how the "Officer" size models run.
As long as they keep making them, I'll feel the need to buy them! ;-)
I have the "tanker" tisas and it runs without issue. Good precision. Rear sight is a hair right which I need to drift but other than that, it's good.
I recently shot my Dan Wesson Valor 5" 45acp and my Rock Island CS 3.5" 45acp. The Valor was close to a $2000 gun and the Rock Island $500+ I shoot the Rock Island more accurately, but no one can give me a good reason why.
@@johnstanton2853 why is a $20k Honda more reliable than a 90k BMW.
@@FoulPet Excuse me? Did you miss the topic of the video?
I just picked up one of these Colt's, very well made! I appreciate the video sir, looking forward to more videos including the pony!
Plan on using my TISAS 1911A1 USGI at upcoming “D-Day Match” for 1911 “as issued” match (25 yards) at CMP Talladega Marksmanship Park.
Good luck in the match!
@@hrfunk , shot it for 1st time at match(all I did was clean). Came in 11th out of 24 and shot great with several “X.” With more practice should be a great shooter and can’t beat the price for an Identical Replica of 1911 USGI
@@herman66mi83 Good shooting!
The Tisas for CQB will work. I started shooting Colt G.I. in the late 60's. THEN I could hit 25 yds. no problem. Today, with 70 year old eyes I need the fiber optic or a good white dot.
Best to ya',,,,!
I'm looking forward to the video comparing the higher Tisas to the Colt. It seem like the big difference between the two guns in this test was more configuration vs quality. while watching, I was searching to see if Tisas made a higher spec gun (specifically with better sights), which, as you said at the end of the video, they do. The other option would be to borrow a GI spec colt (which you could likely do without having actually buy another gun), and test that against the GI spec Tisas.
Stay tuned. I’m looking for a higher end Tisas now.
The fact that the tisas was preforming on par with the colt as the standard GI configuration is true testament to how well that gun is made. I think a better comparison would be one tisas more modern style offerings. But still great content as always.
Howard, there is something I think you might like to look into. I have no personal interest in this product, other than I think it is a good one and deserves to succeed.
Recently I bought some newer variations on revolver speedloaders, to see if anything better has come along. I like full moon clips, but not all revolvers are cut for them and getting cylinders cut can be expensive. I have always used the standard HKs, but have tried others when they crop up. The Safariland loaders are nice but far too bulky for every day or even field carry, and especially not concealed carry. Rubber strips are handy, but slow. A few months ago I bought a couple of Zeta6, six shot loaders, played with them a few minutes, then put them in a drawer. Pulled them out again a few days ago and looked at them more in-depth. They are basically a rubber strip... in a circle.
You really should try these. They are quite fast to figure out and, in my mind, far more dependable. Right now, they are only available for 38/357. I started a conversation with them a couple days ago about a 44sp/44mag version, which would be right up "our" alley. Anyway, they have been sending samples to the also-rans on youtube and had no positive results, because of that poor choice. I suggested they contact you. I suggested they just send you some gratis samples, but you may prefer something different.
Thanks David. I believe I’ve heard of them but I’ve not used one. I’ll take a look on line and see if I can find any info.
@@hrfunk Sorry, I neglected to include a link. Didn't mean to send you on a treasure hunt. Here it is:
zetasix.com/product/k-clip/
If worse comes to worse, I can just send you a couple of mine. I have more on the way.
Thanks. I found it with a google search.
davidkachel, I bought some Zeta6 speed loaders as well as a few of their 6-round strips, which are curved and allow three rounds to be loaded at a time. Both are improvements on traditional competitors and are now my go-to choices for my carry revolvers. I don't know why they aren't more popular than they are. In addition to being reliable and easy to use, they don't "drag" in my pocket because they are so light.
This was very informative. Thank you for the time, effort and ammo invested.
You’re welcome. Thanks for watching!
I bought the TISA because I wanted a GI model like I carried in the Army. I can tell you that the pistol has a much better trigger than the old GI models and so far, has been very forgiving on ammo, but not magazines. I would think that the better sights alone would give you a significant advantage at the longer ranges. Still, I managed to qualify expert every time on the Army Qualification course and I would have every confidence that I could do it with this one too.
So did I with 20 year old eyes🙂.
I just received a Tisas as you used here. From 25 yards you certainly did well with Government sights on the Tisas in my opinion. Shooting my old Ruger 9mm with my Brother-in-law many years ago, he smoked me good. But then again, he had the advantage of U. S. Marine training while serving in Vietnam. Thank you for a well explained concise video.
You’re welcome Karl. Thanks for watching!
Your Tisas performs much like mine, capable of 1 inch groups at 7 yards shooting freehand, with my glasses on LOL. POI was better with the Tisas. A dash of orange paint on the front sight would help the Tisas, but that would ruin the nostalgic appearance of the pistol. I do appreciate the beaver tail grip safeties and better sights on modern 1911s.
The Army Military Police had us shooting the 45 out to 50 yards . Mud and water flying everywhere and once in a while you’d actually hit the full silhouette 🫣. Yea it would serve to keep an attacker off you but that’s about it in combat, besides you had an M16 for that type of thing. I never wanted one of these for work as they were just too darned heavy . Even the 686 Smith they issued us left a blue bruise on your hip after a long day. You do get a real appreciation for these things especially these days when agencies demand you carry more crap on your belt than Batman. Great gun for it’s day but not so well suited for modern times.
I just bought a Tisas and haven’t even shot it yet as I’m waiting for my ( reasonably priced) batch of empty brass to come in. Nice gun in fit and form. It’s far nicer than what I was issued back when. Colt sure never sent them with a Stainless barrel .
The ATF has determined "bump fire fingers" must be registered as machine guns, HA.
Suffice to say that there is not $800 worth of difference in accuracy and performance between the two. Some will mention future "resale value" but I don't "re-sell" so that's not an issue for me. If it were, I would compare the % ROI ( or "loss on investment") and I bet they would be pretty equal there, also.
I think you also show the value of the sights for "combat" drills. Tisas makes models with better sights also. I've heard the proper pronunciation is "Titsass" but I haven't confirmed the source.
Plus, for the price of one Colt, you can arm up yourself and two of your mates with Tisas 1911s.
Aww, Maaannn. Now I’ve got to register my finger.
@@Beuwen_The_Dragon True. Yet I own 3 Colts and 2 Kimbers, so I have no personal desire to own the Tisas 1911, BUT I do own a Tisas Regent BR9 High Power clone and it is a great value. I think it comes down to what you want to spend your money on and I am pretty satisfied Tisas is a good value. How will they last over the next 100 years? Who knows? But, as you say, you can buy 2 spares for the same price.
I love this sick '80s intro
Hahahahahah I also love that when you show up the Colt you completely cover it with your hand instead of just like I don't know gripping it differently and then wiping it down after you've touched the frame for 2 seconds
The Ed Brown I ordered last summer came in yesterday. I sure hope that Tisas doesn't make me cry.
The Only Crying you’ll be doing are tears of Joy! 😄
I really enjoyed this video. Very informative. Thanks for the great info.
You’re welcome Bill. Thanks for watching!
It looks to me the Tisas appeared to be the more accurate pistol to me in the pure accuracy test. My question would be is the sights worth $800. Thanks for the video.
If anything the Tisas did appear to be a bit more mechanically accurate. Still, as I said, the sites and the trigger made a big difference when the clock was running.
Great video showing you don’t need a 1K plus setup to be accurate or have fun. A battle of the budget 1911 A1s would be a nice comparison as well.
I wish more guns were hand fitted. I just checked out two new Colt competitions, one was tight, no rattle besides the beaver tail safety. The other had alot of frame to slide play.
The more hand fitting they have, the more they cost. There are some out there, and they are quite pricey.
@@hrfunk Have you ever tried the Bul Armory Isreal made 1911s? The hype on them is crazy but I'm yet to see any of my LGS selling them.
@@dlife7427 No, I haven't. Maybe someday.
Good morning HR. One other advantage of the Colt is that it will hold it's value better.
Over the years the only Colt I've had a problem with was a little Officers model. It would sometimes stop just short of lockup.
And now for something completely different. Do you know of anywhere to get Masada magazines? Everyone seems to be out of the 17 round mags, even IWI.
I ordered one from IWI about a year ago. I don't know if they're in stock now.
@@hrfunk Thanks for the reply. Their website shows out of stock. I've signed up for a notification when available, but not holding my breath.
Small sights? Orange and white nail polish is your friend. A base coat of white, let dry, then follow up with a coat of orange. Works wonders for my 70 year old eyes.
I love my Tisas 1911 A1. It looks great and works very well. My problem is that I can't leave well enough alone and just have to tinker and try to improve it. The sights are the only feature that drove me crazy because I like to shoot small groups and it isn't easy with the Tisas with my 65 year old eyes. If I was to buy another Tisas 1911 I would choose one of the slightly pricier models with the larger sights. Thank you for another great video. I have been looking forward to this one.
You're welcome Miguel! Thanks for watching.
A dot of orange or white nail polish on that front blade does wonders just fyi (proud owner of tisas 1911 a1)
Great video! Man, I'm glad the Tisas 1911s are getting some well deserved attention. I picked up a Tisas 1911 stainless Duty model, came with a hard case, cleaning tool, bushing tool, and 2 magazines for just over $500, amazing deal. Hasn't had one failure yet, definitely one of my favorite handguns now.
I keep wanting to try a Duty model, but I haven’t come across one yet.
Just got one with a case and cleaning tools for 320 bucks or so. It was a steal.
Is a Colt worth the extra money? Only if you want the name Colt on the pistol. If you want performance and don't want to spend a lot of money on a forged steel frame 1911, I think Tisas is the best deal going. Mind you, I see little wrong with Girsan, Taurus, Springfield, Remington, Ruger, and the plethora of Filipino imports. My personal favorites right now are a Magnum Research (great trigger out of the box) and Dan Wesson (solid feel and smooth operation).
Just an FYI Colonel, the Tisas does have a forged steel frame.
@@hrfunk I know, that's why I mentioned the Tisas specifically and separated it from the other manufacturers/importers (most of which use cast frames). I see how my comment could be misconstrued.
Good Analysis, and plenty of food for thought. Thank you for sharing
You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
I've had a bump fire with both my Walther PPK/S and Beretta Bobcat.
Those triggers in single action mode are so light.
Obviously my fault and a grip issue and not a problem with the guns.
Yep. I've only ever experienced that issue while appying very slow steay pressure to the trigger for a a precise shot.
I bought a Tisas 1911 carry love the gun. I have had 3 different 1911s full size. I like the shorter version the best. Great video thanks
Happy to see more Tisas comparison videos popping up out there. It’s a serious contender in the 1911 world but people are still resistant to the idea that it can possibly be any good for that price.
I’d definitely like to see a more direct comparison between a Tisas B45 or another model with upgrades sights, and the Colt.
And ultimately, I’d like to see Tisas vs Rock Island, which is Tisas’ nearest competitor, and the one that everyone refers to as THE budget 1911. With Tisas around I don’t think that’s true, but I’ve yet to see a direct comparison.
Stay tuned. If I get my hands on either one of those you will see that comparison.
I found an upgraded Tisas for about $100. More than the GI. It’s got fiber optic front sights and adjustable rear. Skeletonized trigger and hammer and a few more improvements. Now that would be a equal tests even though the GI madel did good !
Great Video !
Thank you. I've seen that model on line, but never in person.
Oh, It’s got an upgraded trigger too and Visim grips.
Not a big Colt fan , I think they are over priced , I do like to buy American when I can . I have a Kimber , after a tune up it works Great .
BTW I did the tune up & was not real happy at the time it needed one NIB , I now know how to do one & work on a 1911 , I had no clue before that . The builder could have done the same work in about 5 Min .
@@danoneill2846 > My third 1911 is alongside me as I type, they have all been a bit finicky...
I think the concept of hand finishing a firearm has faded into history. Nowdays, however a part comes out of the CNC machine is considered good enough.
@@chrispetersen113 I learned from U tube vids , done by top builders ... look around & see if you can get some tune up tips . The same idea will work for any gun . If I only had 1 carry gun , I would go over it & look for areas I could clean up . It will make a difference . Don't over do it , you can always go back & hit it again if needed .
@@hrfunk Except for Nighthawk Custom. "One Gun, One Gunsmith," is their motto. They even hand fit the guide rod onto the barrel. Of course, they're hideously expensive, and you can still end up with a lemon.
Thank You Sir fer sharing a GREAT video !!!
The Colt seems to consistently shoot low at all ranges and both loads. I suspect that this is due to a straight mainspring housing. I have found that the arched mainspring brings the bore straighter in line and shoots close to point of aim.
I think the sights for the Colt are regulated for 25 yards. That’s why it’s hitting low at closer distances.
I usually like hanguns to hit point of aim at 7 -10 yards which is most practical defense range. Seems like 25 is a little far for average use
I was wondering about a few videos i`ve seen where they were talking about the basic type of sight design used witch is target or combat both of witch have different zero points. Am I not correct on that note ?
I am thinking about the Tisas as another 45, looking like a 1911A1 and as a platform for a Colt 22 Conversion unit
Back in the 70's, when shooting a Army version 1911 (or 03, Garand or Carbine), Wite-out was your friend. Quick and easy to apply to front sight and almost as easy to remove. Nowadays I use Glow-on paint with a clear nail polish seal, green on blued and bubblegum (orange) on stainless.
Howard, really interesting results between the Tisas vs Colt. I think that someone on a budget who wants a 1911, can't go wrong with the Tisas based on your results. Maybe put upgraded sights and have a good shooting 1911 at the end of the day. I carry one of two full size 1911's in 45 acp as my primary EDC and home defense. One a Kimber and the other a Springfield. Both around $1,000 retail. My concern has always been that should I ever have to use my 1911 in a defensive shooting, it will end up in a police evidence locker for some unknown period of time. The question being whether I would get it back if ever. Maybe switching to a Tisas as an EDC instead should that end up in a police locker, it would be less painful from a financial perspective. But I suppose I'm putting money on my life and the life of my family. My life and the life of my wife are far more valuable than $1,000. So I guess I answered my own question. Thank you as always for insightful video content.
You are most welcome Steve. Thanks for watching!
Relocate to a safer community?
Own a Wilson Combat 1911 in 45 acp and 9mm. Both shoot 25 yd bullseye better than me. I've got a few others for just plinking, but the WC 1911s are worth the money (and easily configured). Good video informative as always.
Very informative. For my purposes, for concealed carry, either one is fine, at real world gunfight distances. (3 to 5 yard average range) The Tisas performance was amazingly good. Thanks HR.
Again as always on these type of comparisons does the cheaper model have the quality to keep up with the other in the long run ?
I’ll let you know in about 10,000 rounds.
I too purchased two new 1911’s within the past six months. The Tisas GI model, and a Magnum Research, MR1911G.
How do you like them?
Both are great! I chose the MR over a SA Garrison because of a much better trigger and the slide to frame fit is much smoother!
I do have a serious comment, question rather: How many folks actually own a COLT 1911? Vote by liking this comment.
I own a Springfield, a Ruger, and a Tisas...
I own two purchased in the late 90's early 2000. That said they are very basic models
I do, I do!
I have three can I vote 3 times 🙂
@@hrfunk I rem. Rand .
I bought my Tisas 1911 in OD Green two years ago for $386 new, put 3,500 rds through it now and it is still performing with the original parts. I've shot steel case, brass case all 230gr ball ammo with not one single malfunction.
I bought an Auto Ordnance Stainless by Khar Industries for $1,100 and it performs well with better sights yadda yadda yadda but that's a given ... they both perform well and I shoot both.
Hello. Been watching your videos for awhile. Was wondering if you could share your experience and training with how your departments had made their plans on dealing with active shooter(s)? Generally and specifically in schools. How about your time in the military as well with dealing with those types of incidents.
That would take a long response and probably get into some areas better not put out in the public domain. The short version is I was a US Marine MP from 1985-1989. After leaving the Corps, I became a civilian law enforcment officer. That career lasted until this past year. I'm currently employed by a private security firm. During my life, I've had extensve training in the handling/use of firearms; and I try to pass on much of what I've learned in my videos.
If you don't mind me chiming in, 33 years a police officer, 8 years active duty, 12 reserve, with extensive active shooter training. Every LE agency in my area, had the same exact training. You respond and first two to five Officers, to get there, with patrol rifles, and rifle grade helmet and vests, form up, and run to the sound of the gunfight, without any delay, and take out the shooter(s) immediately. . That was my training in central Texas, not long after Columbine, and 9/11. That is the way it is to be carried out. When gunfire is ongoing, there should NEVER. NEVER be any delay, as you know every shot fired by the active shooter, means a life is being taken.
@@LoneStarLawman In more recent years, the doctrine has changed to what's called SORAT, or Single Officer Response to an Active Threat. Essentially, what's been discovered is that waiting for a group of 3 or 4 officers to arrive requires too much time. So now, the first officer on scene is tasked with making an entry and attempting to stop the threat.
Thanks HR. Makes a lot of sense.
Thank you guys for your replies
I own a colt combat commander satin finish from 1970's, .45 70 series and just purchased a new colt combat commander.80 series, .both are excellent. My rock island fs ultra is a full size and is also an excellent firearm..very accurate and fit and finish superb quality.
What is the best full size .45 ACP 1911 pistol to own?
All things considered, I woiuld have to say it's my Colt.
@@hrfunk Is that a Colt 1991 A1 or a newer/older model?
The one that you like the best...
@@LeonWick526 It's a Colt Competition Series 1911.
A police trick we used was to put white paint on the site tips, allows quick aquisition on target.
how did the barrel look after sending those all-lead semi wads? I've put all lead through my 45 cal revolver before but not my automatic 45. it seemed tricky not to push the lead too hard and end up with a leaded barrel. last time I loaded bullets I was unable to get fmj conveniently. the semi wads performed awesome though...i used 200gr bullets.
I had a little leading. It wasn't bad and I scrubbed it out.
Many of the semi-wadcutters were keyholing out of both pistols indicating they were undersized for the barrel to properly stabilize them. Great job on an excellent and fair evaluation of practical accuracy for both.
Nice guns
I would rather have 3 Tisas 1911A1s than 1 colt. Accuracy and reliability are equal. You can always upgrade the sights for a nominal price. I see a lot of shooters who employ the thumbs forward grip activate the slide stop. If you grip the gun the way the Marine Corp taught you that would not happen. Basically the Israeli grip or what we might call the low thumb grip. By the way, I love my Tisas 1911A1. Puts them all in one hole at 7 yards and never a malfunction.
I wouldn't. Because if you want to sell one or two and get your money back out of them, you'll find you get what you pay for.
I know, I know. The problem is trying to come up with one grip that works with all handguns. I might just go back to the Marine Corps grip because it also works equally well with revolvers.
I own a Tisas and a Competition…the Colt is a dream to shoot over the Tisas.
Great video! I ordered the Tisas pistol yesterday from Rural King for an incredible Black Friday price of $299.00. Bought mine more for nostalgia than anything, as I spent 31 years in the US Army (1978-2009).
Congratulations! I think you’re really going to like it!
Love The Tisas But I’m Rooting For The Original Often Imitated But Never Duplicated Colt 1911 Pistol 💨🔥🔫😊
This is the model 1911 that I qualified with as a Midshipman on summer cruise in 1972. Only this one is tight and hasn't been subjected to 30 years of abuse. I'm not a 1911 guy. My "go to war" pistol is a Glock 21, .45 with an integrated laser in the guide rod. It is sinfully accurate and a delight to shoot, but not as much fun as the Tisas. I point-shoot with the Tiasus to 15 yards. After that, it's iron sights and my eyes ain't what they used to be. A special forces buddy asked me what ammo I shot. Round nose 230 grain. It's like hurling bowling balls! It will merrily plow its way through denim, tissue, bone, and barrier. Hallowm points are no sweat for the Tisas, I just prefer round nose.
Another plus for 1911's, your dog can't eat it.🤔
My dog: “hold my beer.”
You obviously need a bigger dog
John Browning what a great genius.
A 1911 comparison? That’s like comparing a Nash and a Rambler. An Edsel and a Model A. Interesting but, what is the point? Both outdated and obsoleted!
Now that I fired up about 20 people, those diehard 1911 fans, let me say this: Glock……just buy a Glock!😜😂😜🤪🤪🤪🤪😜
The point is, it was fun!
But I don't like Glocks. Don't make me get one. Or two or three
Just like the Military did? Oh wait they bought a SIG. Well like Border Patrol, Arizona DPS, did? Oh wait they bought HK.
I bought one BLOCK 19.and don't particularly like it.
@@ftdefiance1 Well, we can’t all be cool!
@@skipboyer1889 like 80 million other Glock Fanboys?
If Tisas is smart, for another few dollars should offer a pre series 70 Gold Cup tuned National Match.
Age catches up to us all HR, shooting is a depreciating skill with age. I use to be a Master class shooter, now I am just clinging on to expert. But I still love shooting!!!
Finally a practical test comparison!!! You have opened my mind to why i should spend more money for better gun. If your going to carry and want all the odds possible in your favor, the Colt should be your answer
Awesome video HR. I've got a Springfield 1911 that likes the occasional bump shot as well. :)
Love my Tisas! I have the commander size carry model with Novak sights, bump on the safety, skeletonize trigger and hammer. I paid $375 new. Will
Be buying a full-size soon.
I keep thinking about getting a Commander.
I’m catching up on your videos. This is an excellent demonstration. Thanks.
You’re welcome. Thanks for watching!
Just bought my Tisas for $389 and it’s outstanding. My first 1911 so no other experience but I do own multiple other firearms and I would recommend it to all who want a reliable and affordable 1911. I’ll pile on here as well, needs upgraded sights.
Great idea doing another video with the updated Tisas.
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