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I think it helps that Team Fortress 2 isn't really a "competitive" game in the traditional sense. It can be played competitively but it's not designed from the ground up for that. It's designed to be fun first, competitive second.
Using what TF2 was "designed from the ground up for" isn't really applicable to it's current state. Release TF2 doesn't compare to modern TF2, because they didn't really know what made TF2 tick yet. they just knew how to make good foundations. You can see this in the older maps - dustbowl, goldrush, twofort - none of those are "good" in the sense that they work well. they're basically inherent stalemates (which is also why a lot of effort went into designing stuff to BEAK stalemates, uber, banners, sniper, spy, respawn waves, etc pretty much all exist to break them - a lot's been added to help with that) - but they don't *need* to work well. Base TF2 as a foundation is fun *despite* old maps being stalemate purgatory all the time. It makes me excited to see what Valve could do with a TF3 that learned from TF2's mistakes as opposed to another Cs2 situation, but I don't think that'd ever happen unless Rob Walker decided to push really hard for it, which is a shame. a TF3 could easily make TF2 look like TF:Classic in terms of gameplay and pacing improvements, but we'll probably only ever get a source two port around the 25th anniversary (at best).
I prefer playing with groups who aren't toxic assholes, but I have to admit that it is incredibly entertaining when two people are going at it in CSGO/CS2 casual lobby voice chat haha. Some of the best time I've had in that game is on the casual servers listening to people on voice chat.
Power Jake here. last night was great. It really does only take 10 minutes for everyone to be a friend. There's no other game where bajillion hour gamers and fresh installs can cohabitate so peacefully. I play trolldier to maximize the challenge and, lets be honest, to flex my skill, without sacrificing the freedom to just jump around and peacefully exchange taunts and voice lines with the other team whenever I feel like it. Often I'm goofing off with the very players I was deathmatching only seconds earlier. This doesn't exist in any other shooter to my knowledge. TF2 is a wonderful game.
There are always jerks out there, and there will always be people who will financially support exploitative business practices. I don't know any of these people personally, and I never intend to surround myself with these people. I don't care for some gamers, but there are lots of great gamers too.
The third place comment was weird because I feel like mostly younger people want those. It's not like having physical vs digital even conflicts with each other, but rather it'd be pretty awesome if we didn't exclusively have digital only because capitalism has removed that choice for us.
Oh yeah for sure - physical is important but I disagree that it's weird as where do people of different backgrounds mix? It's not the movie theaters...
Personally, I think the frustrations with modern gaming, boil down to the fact that 90% of current gamers, grew up in an era where there HAD to be good games, if games weren't good a company could easily go bankrupt. You had fresh, new, innovative titles from the big dogs every year because of this. But as gaming has evolved, now the culture is "rush a buggy mess out the door and patch it later", which is frustrating. Now i'm not going to blame random things, but I do find myself being less enamored with gaming then I used to be, especially when every game is either a remake of a classic, or a buggy mess that was rushed out the door for profit. So of course you get people thinking X, Y, or Z are the reasons to blame, when in reality they're just frustrated that gaming nowadays kinda sucks...
Gaming nowadays does not suck, this is a myopic view perpetuated people who are constantly consuming games from the current era while telling us it's all bad. Indie games are huge. AA and AAA games are huge, even if a lot of the biggest players are more risk-averse than they've ever been - more sequels, so what, if those games don't interest you it's time to branch out.
@@0x20pirate I think it's moreso an issue with the longer dev cycles due to higher fidelity "requirements" (not to mention scope creep from open world) to get mass market appeal. This directly leads to stuff like save the justice league, because suits chase trends that were starting to be out of date when they started, let alone 5+ years later - and monetize the life out of them. Ae: the hoarde of battle royales since PUBG/Fortnite. In ~5 years you'll probably see a lot of hell divers clones, we're already starting to see a bunch of soulslikes based on the success of 3, which is only going to be more notable in a few years based on the success of elden ring.
I think it helps that Team Fortress 2 isn't really a "competitive" game in the traditional sense. It can be played competitively but it's not designed from the ground up for that. It's designed to be fun first, competitive second.
Using what TF2 was "designed from the ground up for" isn't really applicable to it's current state. Release TF2 doesn't compare to modern TF2, because they didn't really know what made TF2 tick yet. they just knew how to make good foundations.
You can see this in the older maps - dustbowl, goldrush, twofort - none of those are "good" in the sense that they work well. they're basically inherent stalemates (which is also why a lot of effort went into designing stuff to BEAK stalemates, uber, banners, sniper, spy, respawn waves, etc pretty much all exist to break them - a lot's been added to help with that) - but they don't *need* to work well. Base TF2 as a foundation is fun *despite* old maps being stalemate purgatory all the time.
It makes me excited to see what Valve could do with a TF3 that learned from TF2's mistakes as opposed to another Cs2 situation, but I don't think that'd ever happen unless Rob Walker decided to push really hard for it, which is a shame. a TF3 could easily make TF2 look like TF:Classic in terms of gameplay and pacing improvements, but we'll probably only ever get a source two port around the 25th anniversary (at best).
Not sure what any of what you said has to do with anything lol.
"This isn't an ad for the discord I'm using it as an example"
Good thing you mentioned it :)
he just really needed to hammer home that the discord was used as an example.
Not to be too parasocial, but you seem like such a lovely fellow. Blessed to have a channel and a fellow like you on this platform, Discord included.
The bad actors can be very very loud. It can be difficult to hear through them at times.
Ey, Happy 4th of July Chet. Hope it's treating you well!
(Thanks for being a huge inspiration)
twice baked almond croissants?!? that sounds amazing
I prefer playing with groups who aren't toxic assholes, but I have to admit that it is incredibly entertaining when two people are going at it in CSGO/CS2 casual lobby voice chat haha. Some of the best time I've had in that game is on the casual servers listening to people on voice chat.
Power Jake here. last night was great. It really does only take 10 minutes for everyone to be a friend. There's no other game where bajillion hour gamers and fresh installs can cohabitate so peacefully. I play trolldier to maximize the challenge and, lets be honest, to flex my skill, without sacrificing the freedom to just jump around and peacefully exchange taunts and voice lines with the other team whenever I feel like it. Often I'm goofing off with the very players I was deathmatching only seconds earlier. This doesn't exist in any other shooter to my knowledge. TF2 is a wonderful game.
There are always jerks out there, and there will always be people who will financially support exploitative business practices. I don't know any of these people personally, and I never intend to surround myself with these people.
I don't care for some gamers, but there are lots of great gamers too.
The third place comment was weird because I feel like mostly younger people want those. It's not like having physical vs digital even conflicts with each other, but rather it'd be pretty awesome if we didn't exclusively have digital only because capitalism has removed that choice for us.
Oh yeah for sure - physical is important but I disagree that it's weird as where do people of different backgrounds mix? It's not the movie theaters...
I really REALLY wanna play tf2 with you guys but I'm from germany and it was 5 am and i had to go to work when you were playing. Sucks but oh well
So tired of grinding and earning and leveling up and stats
Personally, I think the frustrations with modern gaming, boil down to the fact that 90% of current gamers, grew up in an era where there HAD to be good games, if games weren't good a company could easily go bankrupt. You had fresh, new, innovative titles from the big dogs every year because of this.
But as gaming has evolved, now the culture is "rush a buggy mess out the door and patch it later", which is frustrating.
Now i'm not going to blame random things, but I do find myself being less enamored with gaming then I used to be, especially when every game is either a remake of a classic, or a buggy mess that was rushed out the door for profit.
So of course you get people thinking X, Y, or Z are the reasons to blame, when in reality they're just frustrated that gaming nowadays kinda sucks...
Gaming nowadays does not suck, this is a myopic view perpetuated people who are constantly consuming games from the current era while telling us it's all bad. Indie games are huge. AA and AAA games are huge, even if a lot of the biggest players are more risk-averse than they've ever been - more sequels, so what, if those games don't interest you it's time to branch out.
@@0x20pirate I think it's moreso an issue with the longer dev cycles due to higher fidelity "requirements" (not to mention scope creep from open world) to get mass market appeal. This directly leads to stuff like save the justice league, because suits chase trends that were starting to be out of date when they started, let alone 5+ years later - and monetize the life out of them. Ae: the hoarde of battle royales since PUBG/Fortnite.
In ~5 years you'll probably see a lot of hell divers clones, we're already starting to see a bunch of soulslikes based on the success of 3, which is only going to be more notable in a few years based on the success of elden ring.