Fun fact: the sound effect used to represent bald eagles in movies is usually taken from the red-tailed hawk, because the cry of the bald eagle sounds really wimpy in comparison.
I once played the call of a red tail hawk from my phone at a real red tail hawk. He answered! Then I played it again and he half answered, then I played it again and he wouldn't respond anymore. It was very cool anyway
Hi Mat, I'm from Spain and my dad did the obligatory military service back then and that was the gun our military used to have before the G36. When my dad served they used the previous CETME generation that had wooden stock and was chambered in 7,62. He said firing those things were like a hammer hiting your shoulder 😂
"He said firing those things were like a hammer hiting your shoulder ". ¿En qué unidad estuvo y qué es lo que hacía? Yo también usé el CETME-C, estaba en la patrulla de tiro de mi compañía y había mañanas que gastábamos 1 caja de 1000 cartuchos del 7,62 en el campo de tiro, y no es para tanto.
@@clastos todo el que ha disparado dice que es muy fuerte el retroceso pero no nada que no se pueda tolerar. Yo creo que lo del martillo es una forma de hablar, no literal
@@miguelfc3917 Pues esos que dicen que es muy fuerte el retroceso, con el cierre de semirrígido de rodillos como usaba el CETME-C, que precisamente utiliza la fuerza del retroceso para abrirse, me gustaría verlos disparando alguuno de los Mauser 7,92 x 57 de cerrojo de los que teníamos en la armería de la compañía, que eran como los que usaban en la Wehrmacht. O sin ir más lejos, un rifle de cerrojo del 7 mm Remington Magnum, del 300 Winchester Magnum o del 338 Winchester Magnum, como los que yo he tenido todos Sako 75, y que no tienen cierre semirrígido para absorber parte del retroceso sino que ahí sí que va todo el retroceso al hombro.
The CETME L is famous for the unreliability. At first it was amazing, even considered the best most precise 5,56 rifle in NATO when it went out of the factory, but it was expensive, so CETME (the company that manifactured it) decided to make it dirt cheap, and screw it big time.
the most common issue with the CETME L is that they have way to weak of springs. you will want to find aftermarket more powerful springs or find a way to get the recoil spring to have more tention behind it. my budy literally stuck a shell casing behind the spring and that fixed it for him.
As a Brazilian citizen I can confirm that we all use soccer clothing and carry a soccer ball with us at all times. No exception. Funny fact, Taurus used to be known for a failure in their guns where the gun would shoot by itself just by shaking it.
A lot of the roller delay rifles have a 250 to 500 round break in. Also if you’re using ammo that’s under powered to what that gun was made to use it’ll do that a lot.
I was "lucky" to have one in the army, in the range, mine jams every single bullet making it a "bolt assault riffle". Dunno how nobody wants this piece of garbage on his collection ahhahahah (The C versión was the good, g3-like)
Serpi, eres tu? Jajajaja vaya grande, mi abuelo también habla maravillas del modelo c, heredero directo del stg 44, de hecho justo acababa de comentarlo. No esperaba verte por aquí jajaja. Un saludo maquina, a ver cuando más series de dayz estilo 14 dias
Would be nice to have one right by your door when you come home, just a quick touch and you're instantly wearing something more comfy after a long day at work!
Well hate to say they maybe putting a ban on all gunz canada just froze all pistols from being bought sold & owned true story & Biden, democrats & liberalz r pushing this here it really might happen
If its not registered & u want to keep it just dont tell anyone u own it if they do ban assault weapons yet they cant define what one is they say ar15's but nothing about ak's so funny.. & mass shootings cant happen with a 22 + bananna clip or even 9mm + few clips there so stupid
That would've been absolutely hilarious if when Matt said, "The Garand, what could that even do?" and after picking it up, he turned into Garand Thumb for a split second. xD
@@jimbothegymbro7086 Yeah but you'll have problems when you're trying to shoot the entire boolit. You know, 40% more boolit per boolit. Betcha didn't think of that, sunshine...
Carcano rifle has an "ejecting" clip. Not spring loaded like the Garand but when you rack the final round, the clip falls out the bottom of the magazine.
W ouldnt just bending the ejection port "block" backwards a bit fix this particular issue? It looks like the brass got flipped back inside the gun after hitting that.
CETME-L manual states you must do TWO things- first, you must clean the chamber before first use- this is the case with all roller rifles. Second- it is specifically designed for milspec 5.56, some civilian round have brass that is too soft. All roller delayed guns tend to have have similar problems- CETME, G3, MP5, HK55
I have not encountered any problems with my Century arms ( I know ) Aluminum receiver rebuild of a G3. It is violent when it extracts brass and it always does as it should. Yes its heavy, but accurate and brings a smile to anyones face who shoots it.
I have a CETME L, never had a malfunction with it. I have noticed by watching the ejection of the cases on mine that it prefers hotter loads. Aside from that never had a problem
It's right there in the manual "You may notice that lower power ammunition will tend to make spent cartridges eject in wider patterns, and closer to the shooter, than hotter makes of ammunition, which will tend to be ejected much farther and in a more consistent pattern."
Yeah it's a pretty unfair comparison as the gun he is shooting is supposedly new. My CETME 308 build took a little bit of running right after I got it finished, but now it eats anything. A CETME L is going to be a build. Wouldn't be real happy if I was the shop that built it and my product was being given this bad publicity.
@@bacon1564 It's even the same with the PTR, I had to run 100 rounds of 7.62x51 LR and 100 rounds of steel 7.62x51 through it before it would truly shoot anything.
@@alexcarbery8189 Not all of them. Some where FN (Fuerzas Navales - Naval Forces) that we Spanish Marines used at that time (mid 90'). Not as sturdy as the C version for sure, but built with better materials that the ones for the ET (Ejército de Tierra - Spanish Army, different branch for the Spanish Navy the Marines beloged to). I had one from the first series built specially for us and never ever had a malfunction as long as I used american M16/NATO magazines, never the spanish ones. My company got a bunch of them brand new from the US Marines in a joint exercise, exchanged for a huge paella xD
Matt. I think you should do a video like this with ballistic gel behind the glass. Not only to see the bullets hit on the gel but to see how badly the gel is effected by the glass that gets blown out the other side. Food for thought.
I bought a CETME-C, original early import build using Spanish parts back in the day by Century. It had a horrible condition of light primer strikes and stovepipes. Essentially the kits were completely worn out. I purchased an HK G3 extractor and spring, and had the headspace/ rollers maintained by a competent gunsmith. Never had an issue again. The issue likely with yours is that the kit they used to build it is simply tired. Have it serviced and you won’t regret it.
I remember dozens of those for less than 900 dollars at cabelas around 2013. Should have jumped on them, I always wanted a 308 semiautomatic and that was the cheapest option hands down. About half the price of an AR-10 clone at the time.
@@worldcure7883 I made a trade for this one at roughly $700, and regretted it for about a year until I had all of the maintenance done. These things are like BMW’s when it comes to maintenance but if you keep them up, they’re pretty sweet shooting guns!
@@worldcure7883 I got a Century C308 in 2016 for $750. I love it but everyone else who shoots it complains about its weight. It's one of my favorite in my collection.
@@GeorgePerakis that was before my time unfortunately. This was a trade roughly 5 years ago. Mine was assembled by Century right when they started doing C308’s.
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Your CETME is more similar to an HK G3 rather than an AR-15, they are both roller-delayed and the G3 was actually derived from the CETMEs. The CETME rifle itself was derived from the StG-45, which is also roller-delayed, and was developed in part by German engineers who moved to Spain from there after the war.
Yeah I was wondering if 5.56 has issues cycling all the moving parts in a roller-delayed gun. I also wonder if Spain used a modified 5.56 similar to the French with the FAMAS.
To be fair, Marcolmar says to run 100+ rounds of 62 grain though their CETME L to break it in before you use 55 grain. Mine is flawless after following their manual. You have to remember these guns were tuned for M855. They put a lot of effort into making these guns run nicely, which they will.
Yep same here. My Marcolmar CETME-L has 100% reliable as I shot a 100 rounds of 62gr m855 at first just as the manual states. It is very common for roller-delayed blowback to have a break-in period to seat the rollers even for h&k's.
Exactly. I tried running X-tac .223 through mine at first and it was a jam-o-matic. Did what the instructions said with the 62gr 5.56mm. I ran 150 rounds and now it eats everything reliably. Good to post this info MrLimey.
I own a Marcolmar and it was doing the same thing. I replaced the bolt from another gun and it fixed all the issues. The original bolt was just too tight and would probably wear in with time, but a new used bolt fixed 100% Give it another chance. You said so yourself the recoil impulse is awesome.
I did the same thing. Got a full auto bolt carrier and swapped it out for the original and it runs 100% now, 55grain, 62 grain, 77 grain, etc. I compared the two bolt carriers and the original has a fatter rear while the surplus full auto carrier is smaller in diameter. Weird. I fixed it but can't explain why this worked.
A as Spaniard that had his military service on 1993 with the older CETME C (7.62 version) I can tell you that the only interruptions that I had were due to very old ammo, or to dust after several hundred rounds... CETME was an acronym of “Cada Esquina Tiene Mierda Escondida “ (every corner has hidden dust) the colleagues that were using the L version said it was way worse and that the only advantage was that it was lighter…
Creo que los prototipos del L eran mucho mejores que la versión definitiva. No tengo confirmado si la chapuza con el modelo fue por culpa de querer aligerarlo excesivamente o sencillamente por abaratar su fabricación. Me inclino por lo segundo. Si lo hubiesen hecho bien junto con la Ameli hubiera hecho una buena pareja. La idea era buena pero el resultado final fue inaceptable.
@@jcarlosglera3647 el CETME L 5.56 hicieron una primera partida , que tiene el guardamanos cuadrado y hoy en día los conservan el los cuarteles de guardia civil. Luego los construidos en masa del modelo L eran basura , encasquillaban , partían las culatas en el cuerpo a tierra , y todo por abaratar costes como tú dices . Tuve la gran suerte de realizar el servicio militar con el modelo C de 7.62 excelente , dura fiable y pesada . Difícil de dominar en modo ráfaga
To be fair there are some interesting modern 45 ACP rounds like Ranger-T 45 which expands to 25mm! Most 45 ammo is comparable to 9mm performance though, so why lose any capacity.
@Mike 1979 no the gun itself. You can get a 45 1911 for a couple hundred bucks anywhere but not a 9mm 1911. As for the ammo its hit and miss everywhere. It's about 35 a 50box for 9 here in pa
i have used the CETME L several times, and i can say that is kind of awful when it has malfunctions, the first model was really good, but the government decided to produced it cheaper, and it was really bad at the end, but its pretty fun when it works properly.
I've owned 3 variations of this platform. The only issue I had was 1 tall mag flaps keeping the bolt from going 'home' after each round. Other than that, the guns have cycled flawlessly. Def my go to after my AK.
The original CETME is extremely reliable and even loves steel cased ammunition. I never got the L but I did always hear they can have issues, while others work ok. You could probably do a bit of work on it and get it to cycle reliably. I still think they look fantastic though, im an iron sights guy and the sights on those fit me really well.
I guarantee his whole issue is the kit they used to assemble it has a worn out extractor and ejector spring. Probably could use properly spaced + bolt rollers and headspace checked. My early C308 needed all of the above.
Chances are the Angry Beavers at Century probably built the CETME. They are notorious for assembling the worst out of box experience in military firearms. I've owned CETME's, FAL's G36's and a few other surplus builds, and they all ran after spending 3-4 hours correcting the assembly errors.
I think is issue is he's running a regular ar15 magazine, contrary to popular belief those model L rifles don't use a standard ar15 mag, they use an ar15 mag with the front feed lips bent open because the guns design has the mag sitting to low in the gun, causing bullets to have to make a angled vertical leap when getting shoved into the barrel, those cetme L also tear up some brass, not just from the fluted chamber but that violent chambering angle causes it to scrape the hell out your brass
@@Devin_Stromgren that's exactly it, Marcolmar includes a brightly colored note with their rifles specifically telling you to run M855 or other heavy loads for the first several hundred rounds to break them in, I guess someone didn't read...
Hey Matt, as a Spaniard I have to tell you that the Cetme is and was one of the worst rifles for an european army, thats why since the 2000s Spanish forces use Ar based and German g36s. I think the cetme is only use in training and to cheaply equip reserve units.
@@peterblyth112 it's flaws are not in design, they're in the quality of the materials used to build it. For it to work correctly you need a powerful round like what you'd use on a FAMAS, the problem the spanish army had with it is that they wanted 500€ rifles, so if u used the actual ammo it needed to work properly, it quite literally broke the gun
Bro this one of the craziest intros so far, I’m absolutely here for this. I remember when you first explained the shotgun shells animation and I remember the custom 12 gauge episodes. Good times.
See, this gun has a problem, it needs really really powerful rounds to work well (more high quality ig?) Now, this normally wouldn't be a problem, except for the fact that the spanish army decided to cheap out on the materials and thus the rounds needed to make the gun work, well, broke the gun. There's replicas and licensed stuff that's actually well built that demonstrates that it's actually a pretty reliable gun. Forgotten weapons has a pretty good video on both the CETME L and the LV. (Either way if you want a good cetme, get the model C)
It is roller delayed blowback system as in French Famas, such systems can work with M193 but have problems with M855. Before using you must know whitch type of ammo it will eat
A lot of reports said that the initial issues with the M16 in Vietnam were due to underpowered ammo, or bad powder or something. I can't remember exactly what it was, but yeah some rifles need military grade hotter ammo to run more efficiently. Most blow back guns run well with hotter ammo, like the CETME-C/G3
@@antiquatedideas1107 M16 in Vietnam have problem with overpowered ammo. It generates more pressure and cause more stress on all parts, bolt extract case from chamber at higher velocity and case is under more pressure when extracting. Plus not issued cleaning kits dont help either.
@@Swindle1984 Also, the Austrian M1885 Mannlicher rifle ejected it's clip out the top also. It's the original en-bloc clip feed rifle. It was simplified in 1886 to just drop out the bottom in the familiar Mannlicher fashion.
@@IrishThunder2020 Close. The Steyr-Mannlicher rifle ejected the clip out the bottom when the fifth and final round was chambered, but you could eject the current clip at any time by pulling back the bolt and hitting the button to eject the clip out the top of the rifle at any time to insert a fresh 5-round clip.
@@Swindle1984 yes, from the M1886 onwards it did, but the originally adopted M1885 actually ejected the empty clip out the top once the magazine was empty. (very unique among the Mannlicher designs and quite rare these days) The Austro-Hungarian government thought that this was too complicated and expensive and they asked for a simpler design. Thus the M1886 and all of the later Mannlicher designs ejected the clip out the bottom upon chambering the last round.
The first gen Cetme rifles were beautiful..The one Matt has is a Cetme L which can not be saved , they are absolute junk not even worth the materials they are made of. Cause you know the Spanish military make the Chinese look like big spenders. But that's Spain for you. Cheap knockoffs...of even their own weapons.
No matter what anyone say Demolition Ranch was the first of its kind in the gun industry with his funny and cool skits and crazy videos. He changed the TH-cam pov on firearms
The CETME-L gets a bad rep, some of which is handsomely earned, some of which is not. I would point out that a quality CETME-L is one of the few guns to survive the InRange mud test with only minor problems.
An AK47 would survive that In Range mud test and ask for the sand and gravel test AND still fire without an issue. Way better than " only minor problems" . If my life depended upon it, I'd rather depend upon a dirty AK47 than a SETME L with minor issues.
Matt at 8:20 you can see some rounds bounce back into the bolt off the receiver after ejection, that's why I assume the snagged shells look how they do
I wouldn't really think of it as being their AR equivalent. It's more of a parallel to the HK33/G41. The original 7.62x51 CETME has shared lineage with the G3.
The cetme was the result of german weapon engineers moving to Spain after being banned from doing weapon work after ww2. The G3 was what they made after the cetme when they were finally allowed to continue their work in Germany
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The Marcolmar CETME L needs 62 grain or heavier to be broke in. And yes, it does have a brake in period. Marcolmar has also fixed all the issues that Spain had with this rifle. You really should give it another chance. My L and LC are some of my favorite rifles to shoot.
How do you like the ergonomics? The bolt catch location and the mag release being too far forward seem awful. My MP5 clone has the same problem with the mag release button but it also has a paddle, which works great.
My problem with the idea of a wall being bulletproof is that people only ever test them with one shot. In reality if someone is trying to get through they are going to empty at least a mag into it so for me the ability to stay in one piece through a full mag would be bulletproof for that level. They will either shoot it once and run off or they will mag dump into it with everything they have.
I think Matt is building a "just in case" wall from which behind to shoot at sketchy stuff. Instead of having to hold up that square piece of metal or his behind his truck.
This video doesn´t tell the whole story: Marcolmar builds are quality, and they have put great attention to detail giving new life to what was a shitty rifle. ALSO, hot 5.56 has to be used with CETME L to work properly, since they were designed to work with the SUPAH HOT Santa Bárbara 5.56 ammo from back in the day. Last, but not least, the manual states that there is a break-in period where jams can happen, typical with some stamped guns. Give it some love for a couple hundred rounds and it will be very reliable.
Roller lock guns tend to throw brass into the next zip code. Watching that example of it barely clearing the port means the rollers might be too tight. Easy fix but annoying. Can verify a set of shims behind the bold face and bolt
it just needs to be broken in, Marcolmar recommends that the first couple hundred rounds through the rifle should be heavy full power ammo like M855, they even write it on a brightly colored note in the box with the rifle, it's fairly hard to miss.
Love the mag eject sound of the m1 garand. By the way the little video montage was great lol. But man that’s some pretty tough bullet proof glass! Another great video!!
the CETME L were infamus for having way to weak of springs. you will want to find aftermarket more powerful springs or find a way to get the recoil spring to have more tention behind it. my budy literally stuck a shell casing behind the spring and that fixed it for him.
If it jams once after a few hundred rounds, eh, okay. Keep an eye on it. If it jams multiple times within a few hundred rounds, I don't wanna EDC it. That's why I'm on my second 9mm shield. It's not the highest capacity pistol, it's not easiest to modify, it's a little jumpy... But damned if it hasn't had a single malfunction in over 5,000 rounds spread over both guns. Even my glocks have an occasional stove pipe. But the little Shield 9 that I can go buy for like 350 bucks out the door hasn't jammed or had any sort of malfunction once. That's shooting steel ammo, all sorts of hollow point, shooting with a 12 dollar promag magazine, and even with a RDS it's not really designed to have. It'd be nice to have 15 rounds but then again the shield is so small it really is incredibly easy to IWB carry and barely notice it which is nice. And way more important... It shoots. Every time. I know when I pull my gun out and squeeze the trigger that 124 grains of Federal HST will exit that barrel at around 1,000 FPS. And you know what? For a 300 dollar gun, it's actually pretty damned accurate. I can reliably pull off head shots in roughly the center of the head at 10, 15, even 20 yards. I wouldn't care to start trying to get crazy at over 50 yards, but I have full confidence that if I needed to I could get hits on a man sized target at anything less.
@@riptaway Some guns need a bit of breaking in though. It could jam a few times within a few hundreds rounds, and then run smoothly for the rest of it's lifetime.
@@riptaway guns are machines made by man, almost every gun I have ever had at least shoots a little better after a few hundred rounds. Some went from unreliable to stone cold killer and and some went from bad to holy crap I can't believe Remington ever let it out of the factory. Friends don't let friends buy a 522 Viper.
Camshafts aren't boots either, but if you don't break them in, you're in for a bad time. And for the same reason, too. Either application involves metal to metal contact in a situation involving high speed, high pressure, high temperatures, and the potential for excessive friction if machined surfaces are not properly bedded together.
Would love to see how Gorilla Glass from Corning Inc. would hold up. They are pretty proud of it’s toughness, see if they’ll set you up with some large enough to test.
I used to work in a glass laminating factory, it is the layers and thickness of the vinyl, that give most of the capture of the round. The glass is mostly tempered glass. That is why it turns to a cube or sand type of debris. And we were always told, it's not bulletproof. It's bullet resistant. Also the tempered glass used in most storefronts, will be strong enough to Ricochet 12 gage XX shotgun pellets back in your face. Always shoot it in the corner of the frame , to run the cracks and weaken. Great site. 👍
Why would you have this knowledge let alone spread it to million of people you don't know of the internet? That doesn't seem wise. "Attention all armed robbers, it IS possible"
@@joeh858 Right because people nowadays rent a book from the library in order to learn something. Not like there's the internet. That's besides the point though as I'm talking about the THOUGHT to begin with. Who wakes up and says to themself "Damn I wonder if I could get past bulletproof glass... let's find out!" lol
@@joeh858 Also your comment is flawed because the last place any armed robber is going to go is a library. If they had knowledge then they wouldn't be robbing stores to begin with. They would know how to manage money better.
Gun vids ..gun vids...gun vids.. Until you you just did that intro ! Brilliant . No monotone discussion . Just brilliant . I'm still smiling while replaying that .Good content as well.
The CETME/HK-91 pattern guns do require a bit of break-in. Mine (a PTR-91) actually did need some manufacturer reworking to replace the ejection lever and springs in order to get it to run more cleanly, as it also frequently had failures to eject. She runs fine now, but it's still a bit of a mule. I really need a welded rail and Spuhr stock.
8:43 it seems like the springs just aren’t allowing enough rearward travel, and the ejector doesn’t have enough dwell time to kick the round clear of the chamber. @DemolitionRanch
Another strange thing about his Cetme is that it's only ejecting brass about 2 feet from the chamber. CETME-L's are famous for violently ejecting brass 20-30 feet. I have one and it kicks the brass like a mule. Not sure if what you're describing is causing his weak ejection or if it's just undergassed so the bolt carrier is not moving fast enough rearward.
@@cedagcedag I’m just basing it off of the mangled brass. I’ve heard that it’s relatively common for those parts kit guns to be oversprung. But I’m also pretty sure that the Cetme uses a roller delayed blow-back, like the G3/MP5, so I don’t think gas is a problem, but I could be wrong
Using a laser pointer diffracting in the glass panels might help you more easily see the layer boundaries and reveal small fractures in a "deepest" layer you normally might consider undamaged.
Interesting... although the CETME L isn't known for reliability, this appeared to be a reproduction, considering that imports of entire guns are low since they are originally machine guns. Since it's a reproduction, the unreliability may be a bit of an unfair judgement?
Also most guns have hiccups in the first few hundred. Guns always run better when broken in. He said these were literally the first shits but I think if the ejection port was slightly bigger it would work better lol
Cetme is known for its reliability. Pretty cool gun, developed in late 40s and based off of the STG 45. Cetme and HK worked together and the germans ended with the G3. It's a shame that Spain's economical crisis in the 90s made them adopt the G36.
Spaniard here. The CETME L is garbage, not because it is a bad gun, but because it was built cutting as many corners as possible. Pretty much everyone I know that served while the CETME L was in service tell me the same, that it jammed from time to time, curiously, the ones used by the Guardia Civil (spanish gendarmerie) were ordered to be built using higher standards than the ones from the army, so they were really good guns. The same happened with the AMELI, the UK was interested on it, but they rejected it after they saw how cheaply made (and because of this, unreliable) they were. On the other hand, the CETME C, the original one which the German G3 is based on, is known to be a great gun, sturdy and reliable.
@@TheLadderman the bolt is returning before the shell can clear the ejection port, maybe a slightly heavier buffer would make the difference in bolt delay enough to allow the shells to eject freely. Edit: nevermind cuz these guns don't have a buffer lol. It would need the roller delay surfaces adjusted or something.
I have a cetme l from marcolmar (same as in the video). They come with a big yellow paper in the box that says to run 150 rounds of 62gr milspec ball ammo to break it in. Sure enough the first 150 rounds I ran through mine had ftf and fte issues. After 150 rounds it was like magic, haven't had an issue since. Matt should really learn to read lol
No disrespect of course, but I’ve seen a lot of Cetme-L’s that function perfect. I’ve fired one myself without fail. Seems like the problems you were encountering are more at fault from whoever you bought this from. Heck, even Administrative Results’ CETME functioned just fine. Maybe they sold you a lemon or a cheap copy.
It’s a lot build copy out of I think Ohio? I have the same gun. The copy isn’t cheap by any means. But it is ammo particular, like the original at first. Matt likely is just mismatching all of his various 5.56, and the stuff with lower pressures won’t work well in the cetme. It only like the nato spec kinda stuff.
The CETME-L was the worst Assault Rifle ever adopted in Europe and the build quality for many was about as bad IO Inc. Imagine everything that went wrong with the L85, but imagine worse.
@@Seth9809 nah I wouldn’t say it’s worse than the l85. The l85/sa80 project was a disaster before production started, and the gun had design flaws along with bad manufacturing quality. The cetme l has an ok design, it’s the bad manufacturing that gave it it’s bad rep.
There was several rifles that used En-bloc clips. But they didn't launch out of the top of the weapon once empty. They fell out of the bottom of the rifle. The Mauser Gewehr 1888 and Bertier Mle 1890 are two of the more famous ones. Many of the rifles used in World war I started with this system, but all were eventually modified into the stripper clips we're more familiar with today, since I think we all know what having a small opening in the bottom of your gun that can't be effectively closed up or covered will do the action, internal magazine and chamber of the weapon when you're just carrying it out around in the field, much less once you actually get into combat, and worse, if you're unlucky enough be fighting in one of the locales that people most think of with mud, muck and trenches in France.
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So besides 70% of service rifles from the late 1800's, the Garand is the only rifle to use an en-bloc clip that ejects automatically, though most do so as they load the last round. But semi-automatic rifles that use en-bloc clips are few. I can only think of the RSC and Pedersen rifle, and the RSC needed you to manually eject it.
There’s only 2 or 3 of those guns in existence and they sell for like $40-80k because if this. Also they don’t make the ammo for it anymore. It was expensive back when they made it, I remember buying a live brass monolithic round as a collectible for like $40 bucks. Ridiculous. Anyways check out Forgotten Weapons like the other guy said. That’s as close as you’ll get.
@@xthee_0nly_1x11 that's why I said or something because I realize that round would be hard to aquire but perhaps he could even do a collab with that TH-camr or something to get some massive rifle on the channel even if only for an episode. I have a feeling it would get tons of views too so even if he did pay a bunch for one he'd probably profit overall
@@xthee_0nly_1x11 The cartridges that gun fires are made by trimming and resizing 20mm Hispano cannon brass, and it was always intended for use with hard-cast lead bullets. In the admittedly unlikely chance he ever got somebody to lend him one, ammunition certainly could be made, and I can all but guarantee whoever owns them also owns the brass, bullet molds, and loading dies.
I'm impressed with that glass, I've seen WW2 surplus black tip 30-06 go through a nearly inch thick steel I beam that came from a railroad bridge. Tough stuff!
well you also gotta think thats not a full power 3006 as the m1 garand cant take the pressure of modern rounds so if you get that back tip and put it in a new case and reload it to now days pressure for 3006 is about 65,782psi for modern day and max of 55k for m1 you can get about 568 fps more or about 890 ftlbs more energy
@@jacobstallcup8648 Nothing you said is relevant to what NOLA_Ken said. He specifically referenced military issued WWII black tip ammo, which was commonly and safely shot in M1 Garands, doing specific damage to something. Snipers using M1-D configurations commonly used black tip as their ammo of choice. Military 30-06 is “full power” by caliber and military standards, and by no means underpowered or anemic. You can always load hotter cartridges in a bolt action than you safely can in an auto-loading gun, as there is no pressure/timing used to cycle the action in a bolt gun, and no mechanisms set in motion by gas pressure. The Garand was simply designed to reliably run off of the timing and (still very high) pressure of M2 ball without damaging moving parts. There is also a difference in the burn rate and potential energy of the powder used in military 30-06 compared to modern hunting ammo, which makes a huge difference in the pressure spike exerted on the moving parts of a Garand. With minimal modifications, you can run the HOT loads you’re referring to in a Garand. However, since it’s not a hunting rifle, it’s usually not all that important to most owners. Point is, that window got hit with full-fledged 30-06. No reason to act like it was just lucky it only got shot by a Garand.
As a spanish guy following you for almost 4 years i think, i recommend you to put your hands on a Cetme C chambered in .308 (the one with wodden stock and handguard). My grandpa told me it was a great gun (he used them when he was doing the military service and when served in the Civil Guard). They were mede before Spain joins the NATO, so they could spend more per gun, not like the shit they made after. Love the videos, and the best intros in yt
The CETME is a G3/HK91 (HK-93 for 5.56). The G3 (7.62 x 51) does hammer your shoulder. Its accuracy is reliable to 300 yds or so in its vanilla form. It's a battle rifle and not a tack driver. I have a G3 but really just as a collection piece. The G3 has it's place among the AR/M16, FN FAL and AK-47 platforms as 20th Century modern battle rifles. The G-3 ejection port is fine. I've never had a stove pipe or failure to eject. I have no experience with a 5.56 version though. It seems a delayed roller is overkill for 5.56.
Hey Matt, I have been thinking of an item that would give you trouble to shoot through, and I think I have a challenge for you a Church Bell. When I was a kid, I had the job of going to the bell tower and cleaning the bell once a month. I remember how thick it was, and when the church removed the bell, it took 2 cranes to get it down safely. Just an idea. What do you think.... maybe???
literally over here dying laughing at that intro!! Your intros never fail to make me laugh or make my day so much better!! thank you Matt for everything you do!!❤
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Is your children okay
The Is garand is Canadian
If one gun can change your whole appearance, what would holding two guns do?
you would possibly wear half and half
It would cause a space time anomaly and the fabric of space time will be destroyed.
Depends on your school
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As a Brazilian I can confirm: we go to the range dressed as footballers and shoot Taurus guns until we are out of footballs.
Then you go practice some capoeira then do a BBQ right?
Id love to upvote this, but i dont want to break the 69.
Until we Are out of fotballs. Thanks for killing me
How much % of Brazil's population are off duty cops?
@@Cirvjakaac1 I think... enough for my taste and health.
Fun fact: the sound effect used to represent bald eagles in movies is usually taken from the red-tailed hawk, because the cry of the bald eagle sounds really wimpy in comparison.
I once played the call of a red tail hawk from my phone at a real red tail hawk. He answered! Then I played it again and he half answered, then I played it again and he wouldn't respond anymore. It was very cool anyway
I've just looked it up and found my life has been a lie.
I used to live in Alaska where Bald Eagles are basically pigeons. They sound and act like Seagulls.
@@thewebwingman There's a reason Benjamin Franklin wanted the turkey to be our national bird, but he got outvoted.
I have eagles in my area and they sometimes scream like a woman. Once I even thought that someone was being chased and it was just an eagle screaming.
Hi Mat, I'm from Spain and my dad did the obligatory military service back then and that was the gun our military used to have before the G36. When my dad served they used the previous CETME generation that had wooden stock and was chambered in 7,62. He said firing those things were like a hammer hiting your shoulder 😂
"He said firing those things were like a hammer hiting your shoulder ".
¿En qué unidad estuvo y qué es lo que hacía?
Yo también usé el CETME-C, estaba en la patrulla de tiro de mi compañía y había mañanas que gastábamos 1 caja de 1000 cartuchos del 7,62 en el campo de tiro, y no es para tanto.
@@clastos todo el que ha disparado dice que es muy fuerte el retroceso pero no nada que no se pueda tolerar. Yo creo que lo del martillo es una forma de hablar, no literal
@@miguelfc3917
Pues esos que dicen que es muy fuerte el retroceso, con el cierre de semirrígido de rodillos como usaba el CETME-C, que precisamente utiliza la fuerza del retroceso para abrirse, me gustaría verlos disparando alguuno de los Mauser 7,92 x 57 de cerrojo de los que teníamos en la armería de la compañía, que eran como los que usaban en la Wehrmacht.
O sin ir más lejos, un rifle de cerrojo del 7 mm Remington Magnum, del 300 Winchester Magnum o del 338 Winchester Magnum, como los que yo he tenido todos Sako 75, y que no tienen cierre semirrígido para absorber parte del retroceso sino que ahí sí que va todo el retroceso al hombro.
Bien dicho, haber si los Yankis se enteran de que el Chopo era una obra de ingeniería.
@@clastos Jó ... algunos cómo se lo pasaban, qué envidia ... Una mañanita de tiro con el Cetme-C ... 🙃😉
Laughing my ass off. When he grabbed the M1 he should have morphed into Garand thumb saying "this isn't right".
Id have held out for that gag lmao
Definitely a missed opportunity! 😆
That's exactly what I thought was going to happen.
Glad I wasn't the only one thinking that. It would have been hilarious.
I was thinking the exact same thing!! Lol would've an amazing bit! Especially if Garand Thumb wasn't in or even mentioned in the video at all!
did you actually just spell out lmao like that?
The CETME L is famous for the unreliability. At first it was amazing, even considered the best most precise 5,56 rifle in NATO when it went out of the factory, but it was expensive, so CETME (the company that manifactured it) decided to make it dirt cheap, and screw it big time.
They’d should make on for public sale that is better so that collectors can get a good rifle, but it’s more expensive.
LC is wicked fun and reliable for me...
the most common issue with the CETME L is that they have way to weak of springs. you will want to find aftermarket more powerful springs or find a way to get the recoil spring to have more tention behind it. my budy literally stuck a shell casing behind the spring and that fixed it for him.
Also use stanag mags and throw the cetme mags away
@@robertmccutcheon4103 marcolmar’s reproduction cetme l’s have all new springs
As a Brazilian citizen I can confirm that we all use soccer clothing and carry a soccer ball with us at all times. No exception.
Funny fact, Taurus used to be known for a failure in their guns where the gun would shoot by itself just by shaking it.
That sounds extremely dangerous
Kkkkkk Matt acertou em cheio, mas achei meio esteriótipo kkkkkkk
@@dizzymoosic Brazil is not for amateurs!
Que bom que um compatriota aqui também é fã do canal, sabia que eu não era o único.
@@dizzymoosic That's an understatement.
A lot of the roller delay rifles have a 250 to 500 round break in. Also if you’re using ammo that’s under powered to what that gun was made to use it’ll do that a lot.
I was "lucky" to have one in the army, in the range, mine jams every single bullet making it a "bolt assault riffle". Dunno how nobody wants this piece of garbage on his collection ahhahahah (The C versión was the good, g3-like)
Serpi, eres tu? Jajajaja vaya grande, mi abuelo también habla maravillas del modelo c, heredero directo del stg 44, de hecho justo acababa de comentarlo. No esperaba verte por aquí jajaja. Un saludo maquina, a ver cuando más series de dayz estilo 14 dias
Legal to own in Australia?
@@VerdeMorte is anything legal in Australia?
@@SgtRudySmith31bRet
That's the question...
maybe stuff the barrel with broccoli & shoot underwater...?
with a pull string, of course.
As an AK owner, I can confirm that every time I touch my AK, I'm magically wearing a red tracksuit. It's really becoming a problem.
Whenever you touch "your" AK does it suddenly become "our" AK as well?
You’re clearly lying-you don’t touch AK, AK touches you.
Would be nice to have one right by your door when you come home, just a quick touch and you're instantly wearing something more comfy after a long day at work!
Well hate to say they maybe putting a ban on all gunz canada just froze all pistols from being bought sold & owned true story & Biden, democrats & liberalz r pushing this here it really might happen
If its not registered & u want to keep it just dont tell anyone u own it if they do ban assault weapons yet they cant define what one is they say ar15's but nothing about ak's so funny.. & mass shootings cant happen with a 22 + bananna clip or even 9mm + few clips there so stupid
That would've been absolutely hilarious if when Matt said, "The Garand, what could that even do?" and after picking it up, he turned into Garand Thumb for a split second. xD
I amost expected that as well
Totally missed moment, that would have been epic!
My exact thought 😂
The was the first thing i commented before seeing yours 😂 great minds think alike lmao
I thought he turned into Brandon Herrera when picking up the AK at first
the editing and camerawork is truly something else in this one, love it!
Dr., Dr, heal thyself.
It takes next level intelligence to design a ejection port. Half the size of the cartridge its chambered for
Saves you half the ammo duh!
half the size half the chance to jam obviously, you ain't shmart is ya
@@jimbothegymbro7086 Yeah but you'll have problems when you're trying to shoot the entire boolit. You know, 40% more boolit per boolit. Betcha didn't think of that, sunshine...
the erratic ejection pattern is the main issue
In the words of that guy from Rocket Man, "We would either need a complete idiot or an absolute genius. Thankfully, we have both."
Matt: "I won't aim"
Also Matt: [Somehow curves the bullet around the glass and kills the mannequin
Them damn soccer moms-letting them balls loose...
bro forgot to turn off his aimbot
@@lil_chunker my aim-bot is currently honed for fems....
WW1 German Gotha G.IV Heavy Bomber, night camo and Lozenge camo
I know mannequin is a weird word but please spell it remotely right. I hate to be that guy, but horrible spelling and grammar is painful to read
Carcano rifle has an "ejecting" clip. Not spring loaded like the Garand but when you rack the final round, the clip falls out the bottom of the magazine.
All the rifles that have Mannlicher clips do that
@@etiennelamarche9629 That's what the M1895 is, right?
The original Gewehr 88 has similar mechanism.
W ouldnt just bending the ejection port "block" backwards a bit fix this particular issue? It looks like the brass got flipped back inside the gun after hitting that.
If it doesn't ping we dont want it lol
CETME-L manual states you must do TWO things- first, you must clean the chamber before first use- this is the case with all roller rifles. Second- it is specifically designed for milspec 5.56, some civilian round have brass that is too soft.
All roller delayed guns tend to have have similar problems- CETME, G3, MP5, HK55
I have not encountered any problems with my Century arms ( I know ) Aluminum receiver rebuild of a G3. It is violent when it extracts brass and it always does as it should. Yes its heavy, but accurate and brings a smile to anyones face who shoots it.
I have a CETME L, never had a malfunction with it. I have noticed by watching the ejection of the cases on mine that it prefers hotter loads. Aside from that never had a problem
It's right there in the manual
"You may notice that lower power ammunition will tend to make spent cartridges eject
in wider patterns, and closer to the shooter, than hotter makes of ammunition, which
will tend to be ejected much farther and in a more consistent pattern."
Yeah it's a pretty unfair comparison as the gun he is shooting is supposedly new. My CETME 308 build took a little bit of running right after I got it finished, but now it eats anything. A CETME L is going to be a build. Wouldn't be real happy if I was the shop that built it and my product was being given this bad publicity.
I think he got an original becauso of ET marking in it. The original versions were really bad guns.
@@bacon1564 It's even the same with the PTR, I had to run 100 rounds of 7.62x51 LR and 100 rounds of steel 7.62x51 through it before it would truly shoot anything.
@@alexcarbery8189 Not all of them. Some where FN (Fuerzas Navales - Naval Forces) that we Spanish Marines used at that time (mid 90'). Not as sturdy as the C version for sure, but built with better materials that the ones for the ET (Ejército de Tierra - Spanish Army, different branch for the Spanish Navy the Marines beloged to). I had one from the first series built specially for us and never ever had a malfunction as long as I used american M16/NATO magazines, never the spanish ones. My company got a bunch of them brand new from the US Marines in a joint exercise, exchanged for a huge paella xD
Matt. I think you should do a video like this with ballistic gel behind the glass. Not only to see the bullets hit on the gel but to see how badly the gel is effected by the glass that gets blown out the other side. Food for thought.
Oooh, i like!
I bought a CETME-C, original early import build using Spanish parts back in the day by Century. It had a horrible condition of light primer strikes and stovepipes. Essentially the kits were completely worn out. I purchased an HK G3 extractor and spring, and had the headspace/ rollers maintained by a competent gunsmith. Never had an issue again. The issue likely with yours is that the kit they used to build it is simply tired. Have it serviced and you won’t regret it.
I remember dozens of those for less than 900 dollars at cabelas around 2013. Should have jumped on them, I always wanted a 308 semiautomatic and that was the cheapest option hands down.
About half the price of an AR-10 clone at the time.
@@worldcure7883 I made a trade for this one at roughly $700, and regretted it for about a year until I had all of the maintenance done. These things are like BMW’s when it comes to maintenance but if you keep them up, they’re pretty sweet shooting guns!
Should've gotten a Greek-made G3 back when Springfield used to import them. H&K tooling. They kick like mules but they don't jam.
@@worldcure7883 I got a Century C308 in 2016 for $750. I love it but everyone else who shoots it complains about its weight. It's one of my favorite in my collection.
@@GeorgePerakis that was before my time unfortunately. This was a trade roughly 5 years ago. Mine was assembled by Century right when they started doing C308’s.
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Your CETME is more similar to an HK G3 rather than an AR-15, they are both roller-delayed and the G3 was actually derived from the CETMEs. The CETME rifle itself was derived from the StG-45, which is also roller-delayed, and was developed in part by German engineers who moved to Spain from there after the war.
I think he use ammo, that is not Strong enough in the load
This gun is a Spanish HK33
You refer the CETME C, but he shoots the CETME L, which has never been a good gun because of very low quality materials
Misma historia con la AMELI
Yeah I was wondering if 5.56 has issues cycling all the moving parts in a roller-delayed gun. I also wonder if Spain used a modified 5.56 similar to the French with the FAMAS.
To be fair, Marcolmar says to run 100+ rounds of 62 grain though their CETME L to break it in before you use 55 grain. Mine is flawless after following their manual. You have to remember these guns were tuned for M855. They put a lot of effort into making these guns run nicely, which they will.
Same experience I've had with my L and LC, along with everyone else I've met with one.
Facts in the end it’s just someone’s opinion.
@@deathnote9272 sure, I suppose, but it's specifically an opinion based in ignorance
Yep same here. My Marcolmar CETME-L has 100% reliable as I shot a 100 rounds of 62gr m855 at first just as the manual states. It is very common for roller-delayed blowback to have a break-in period to seat the rollers even for h&k's.
Exactly. I tried running X-tac .223 through mine at first and it was a jam-o-matic. Did what the instructions said with the 62gr 5.56mm. I ran 150 rounds and now it eats everything reliably. Good to post this info MrLimey.
I own a Marcolmar and it was doing the same thing. I replaced the bolt from another gun and it fixed all the issues. The original bolt was just too tight and would probably wear in with time, but a new used bolt fixed 100% Give it another chance. You said so yourself the recoil impulse is awesome.
I did the same thing. Got a full auto bolt carrier and swapped it out for the original and it runs 100% now, 55grain, 62 grain, 77 grain, etc. I compared the two bolt carriers and the original has a fatter rear while the surplus full auto carrier is smaller in diameter. Weird. I fixed it but can't explain why this worked.
A as Spaniard that had his military service on 1993 with the older CETME C (7.62 version) I can tell you that the only interruptions that I had were due to very old ammo, or to dust after several hundred rounds... CETME was an acronym of “Cada Esquina Tiene Mierda Escondida “ (every corner has hidden dust) the colleagues that were using the L version said it was way worse and that the only advantage was that it was lighter…
Mierda (͡o‿O͡)
Creo que los prototipos del L eran mucho mejores que la versión definitiva. No tengo confirmado si la chapuza con el modelo fue por culpa de querer aligerarlo excesivamente o sencillamente por abaratar su fabricación. Me inclino por lo segundo. Si lo hubiesen hecho bien junto con la Ameli hubiera hecho una buena pareja. La idea era buena pero el resultado final fue inaceptable.
@@jcarlosglera3647 el CETME L 5.56 hicieron una primera partida , que tiene el guardamanos cuadrado y hoy en día los conservan el los cuarteles de guardia civil. Luego los construidos en masa del modelo L eran basura , encasquillaban , partían las culatas en el cuerpo a tierra , y todo por abaratar costes como tú dices . Tuve la gran suerte de realizar el servicio militar con el modelo C de 7.62 excelente , dura fiable y pesada . Difícil de dominar en modo ráfaga
Last time I checked Mierda doesn’t literally mean dust… 😂
Thank you! I was so curious about that
Garand should've aged you a lot more and claimed that .45 ACP is the lords caliber
shoulda turned him into Hickok45
To be fair there are some interesting modern 45 ACP rounds like Ranger-T 45 which expands to 25mm! Most 45 ammo is comparable to 9mm performance though, so why lose any capacity.
@@SoccerVJ2011 cost. More 45s are cheaper than their 9mm counterparts. Its exactly why I don't have a 9mm 1911 yet lol
@@SoccerVJ2011 jokes on you I carry a 9mm with 1911 capacity 😂😂😂
@Mike 1979 no the gun itself. You can get a 45 1911 for a couple hundred bucks anywhere but not a 9mm 1911. As for the ammo its hit and miss everywhere. It's about 35 a 50box for 9 here in pa
I've been watching Demolition Ranch for many many years and this is now one my favorite intros lol. Great job Matt!
Well, while the 50 doesn't ping like garand, it sure goes "Chit-CHUNK" when you rack it. What a glorious, monstrous sound.
Yup that 50 bmg sounds awesome
i have used the CETME L several times, and i can say that is kind of awful when it has malfunctions, the first model was really good, but the government decided to produced it cheaper, and it was really bad at the end, but its pretty fun when it works properly.
I've owned 3 variations of this platform. The only issue I had was 1 tall mag flaps keeping the bolt from going 'home' after each round. Other than that, the guns have cycled flawlessly. Def my go to after my AK.
The original CETME is extremely reliable and even loves steel cased ammunition. I never got the L but I did always hear they can have issues, while others work ok. You could probably do a bit of work on it and get it to cycle reliably. I still think they look fantastic though, im an iron sights guy and the sights on those fit me really well.
I guarantee his whole issue is the kit they used to assemble it has a worn out extractor and ejector spring. Probably could use properly spaced + bolt rollers and headspace checked. My early C308 needed all of the above.
Chances are the Angry Beavers at Century probably built the CETME. They are notorious for assembling the worst out of box experience in military firearms.
I've owned CETME's, FAL's G36's and a few other surplus builds, and they all ran after spending 3-4 hours correcting the assembly errors.
I think is issue is he's running a regular ar15 magazine, contrary to popular belief those model L rifles don't use a standard ar15 mag, they use an ar15 mag with the front feed lips bent open because the guns design has the mag sitting to low in the gun, causing bullets to have to make a angled vertical leap when getting shoved into the barrel, those cetme L also tear up some brass, not just from the fluted chamber but that violent chambering angle causes it to scrape the hell out your brass
@@gungadinn These CETME-Ls are made by MalColMar.
@@abradolflincler00 MalColMar redesigned the receivers for these builds so they work with standard STANAG mags.
If Matt were to have the roller system serviced it would actually become a nice fun gun to shoot. Rollers change how well the gun cycles quite a bit.
I figured either the rollers are the wrong size or the flat was bent too tight. Either way it can be a sweet shooting gun in the right armorers hands
@@jamesgravel7755 exactly.
I second this. I’ve shot a Spanish Cetme with no issues whatsoever.
Roller delayed guns also frequently require a break in period before they're reliable.
@@Devin_Stromgren that's exactly it, Marcolmar includes a brightly colored note with their rifles specifically telling you to run M855 or other heavy loads for the first several hundred rounds to break them in, I guess someone didn't read...
I love that the camera guy just cuts in at certain points now it makes these videos even better
There's no way to dislike this channel.
Hey Matt, as a Spaniard I have to tell you that the Cetme is and was one of the worst rifles for an european army, thats why since the 2000s Spanish forces use Ar based and German g36s. I think the cetme is only use in training and to cheaply equip reserve units.
can it be worse than the L85A1? by the look of it maybe
La guardia civil usa el chopo (Cetme C) el cual es mas antiguo pero incluso así es mejor
a y otra cosa, sabes que el g3 de H&K (los mismos creadores del G36) se basaron en el chopo
lo peor es que el diseño es bueno, pero el ejercito quería rifles a 500€ y claro, pasa lo que pasa
@@peterblyth112 it's flaws are not in design, they're in the quality of the materials used to build it. For it to work correctly you need a powerful round like what you'd use on a FAMAS, the problem the spanish army had with it is that they wanted 500€ rifles, so if u used the actual ammo it needed to work properly, it quite literally broke the gun
Bro this one of the craziest intros so far, I’m absolutely here for this. I remember when you first explained the shotgun shells animation and I remember the custom 12 gauge episodes. Good times.
Can we all take some time to appreciate how long that intro probably took him to make
Probably about an hour
he has the balls to upload
Not long lol.
Time taken. Intro=Appreciated
I was thinking the same thing😂
I wouldn't want simply s*it or anyone else knowing what goes on in, or recorded in my home, but I'm hooked on your silly gun videos.
See, this gun has a problem, it needs really really powerful rounds to work well (more high quality ig?) Now, this normally wouldn't be a problem, except for the fact that the spanish army decided to cheap out on the materials and thus the rounds needed to make the gun work, well, broke the gun. There's replicas and licensed stuff that's actually well built that demonstrates that it's actually a pretty reliable gun. Forgotten weapons has a pretty good video on both the CETME L and the LV. (Either way if you want a good cetme, get the model C)
It is roller delayed blowback system as in French Famas, such systems can work with M193 but have problems with M855. Before using you must know whitch type of ammo it will eat
@@АлександрМаврин-я5х yeah, that's why it jams so much
@@АлександрМаврин-я5х the Famas is a lever delayed not roller delayed blowback
A lot of reports said that the initial issues with the M16 in Vietnam were due to underpowered ammo, or bad powder or something. I can't remember exactly what it was, but yeah some rifles need military grade hotter ammo to run more efficiently. Most blow back guns run well with hotter ammo, like the CETME-C/G3
@@antiquatedideas1107 M16 in Vietnam have problem with overpowered ammo. It generates more pressure and cause more stress on all parts, bolt extract case from chamber at higher velocity and case is under more pressure when extracting. Plus not issued cleaning kits dont help either.
The Pedersen rifle also does have a clip that ejects. In fact I think this gun was competing with Garand at some point.
You are correct, the Pederson rifle was competing against the Garand early in the American rifle trials to replace the M1903 Springfield.
@@Swindle1984 Also, the Austrian M1885 Mannlicher rifle ejected it's clip out the top also. It's the original en-bloc clip feed rifle. It was simplified in 1886 to just drop out the bottom in the familiar Mannlicher fashion.
@@IrishThunder2020 Close. The Steyr-Mannlicher rifle ejected the clip out the bottom when the fifth and final round was chambered, but you could eject the current clip at any time by pulling back the bolt and hitting the button to eject the clip out the top of the rifle at any time to insert a fresh 5-round clip.
@@Swindle1984 yes, from the M1886 onwards it did, but the originally adopted M1885 actually ejected the empty clip out the top once the magazine was empty. (very unique among the Mannlicher designs and quite rare these days) The Austro-Hungarian government thought that this was too complicated and expensive and they asked for a simpler design. Thus the
M1886 and all of the later Mannlicher designs ejected the clip out the bottom upon chambering the last round.
@@IrishThunder2020 The M95 ejects out the top if you press the button, similar to the M1 when you want to top it off without firing every round.
Definitely get the ceteme checked! It could be something as simple as the extractor spring and it'll run with smooth roller-lock goodness!
Stick a lebel case on the spring. At least that's what Karl's CETME took.
The first gen Cetme rifles were beautiful..The one Matt has is a Cetme L which can not be saved , they are absolute junk not even worth the materials they are made of.
Cause you know the Spanish military make the Chinese look like big spenders. But that's Spain for you. Cheap knockoffs...of even their own weapons.
No matter what anyone say Demolition Ranch was the first of its kind in the gun industry with his funny and cool skits and crazy videos. He changed the TH-cam pov on firearms
The CETME-L gets a bad rep, some of which is handsomely earned, some of which is not. I would point out that a quality CETME-L is one of the few guns to survive the InRange mud test with only minor problems.
An AK47 would survive that In Range mud test and ask for the sand and gravel test AND still fire without an issue. Way better than " only minor problems" . If my life depended upon it, I'd rather depend upon a dirty AK47 than a SETME L with minor issues.
@@michaeltheoret3842 Except that the AK47 failed that same test miserably. LMAO.
By jamming just as much after the mud as it did before?
@@hanselito2416 Go watch the test. It's on TH-cam. Both of the rifles, in fact.
@@hanselito2416 it's a fine rifle if you actually 1: buy a good one made by a decent company, and 2: shoot the right ammo (tuned for m855)
Matt at 8:20 you can see some rounds bounce back into the bolt off the receiver after ejection, that's why I assume the snagged shells look how they do
I wouldn't really think of it as being their AR equivalent. It's more of a parallel to the HK33/G41. The original 7.62x51 CETME has shared lineage with the G3.
Pretty sure the CETME 7.62 is literally just a G3, since CETME and HK collaborated on it.
The cetme was the result of german weapon engineers moving to Spain after being banned from doing weapon work after ww2. The G3 was what they made after the cetme when they were finally allowed to continue their work in Germany
THE CETME 51 is a G3. It's just built in Spain.
The G3 itself was a collaboration between CETME and HK.
The HK G3 is based on the 7.62 CETME, which itself is based on the WWII Mauser Gerät 06
So what’s the G3 then ?
Dude I just came across your channel by luck. Love ur style brother ! You had me rolling with ur commentary as well as some cool ass weapons ! As an old jar head I really enjoy both ! I subscribed instantly ! Keep up the fantastic work and I'll keep watching 4 sure.
Surprised Matt didn't turn into Flannel Daddy Garand Thumb, when he picked up the M1 Garand.
I’m glad I wasn’t the only one expecting him to turn into Jones
Same thought
Very disappointed the Garand was invented by a Canadian hence the French name Garand.
The Marcolmar CETME L needs 62 grain or heavier to be broke in. And yes, it does have a brake in period. Marcolmar has also fixed all the issues that Spain had with this rifle. You really should give it another chance. My L and LC are some of my favorite rifles to shoot.
Man a 223 roller delayed gun? Not hard to believe it’s one of your favourites if it works.
Can confirm. After 100 rounds and a good clean and lube, have had zero malfunctions since.
How do you like the ergonomics? The bolt catch location and the mag release being too far forward seem awful. My MP5 clone has the same problem with the mag release button but it also has a paddle, which works great.
@@WrecklessSandwich the ergonomics are nothing to write home about. But this isn’t an AR replacement. It’s just a fun shooter.
My MAD 33AR had a break in but nothing like the Cetme L.
My problem with the idea of a wall being bulletproof is that people only ever test them with one shot.
In reality if someone is trying to get through they are going to empty at least a mag into it so for me the ability to stay in one piece through a full mag would be bulletproof for that level.
They will either shoot it once and run off or they will mag dump into it with everything they have.
They always test them with mag dumps, at least the reputable ones.
One piece?
I think Matt is building a "just in case" wall from which behind to shoot at sketchy stuff. Instead of having to hold up that square piece of metal or his behind his truck.
@@naoayeo7718 as in stay intact enough to not allow any bullets to pass through.
True
Best intro's of all TH-camrs I watch.
The eagle suit was great, but I was fully expecting him to turn into garand thumb or Hickok 45 lol
Oh, that would have been good!
I genuinely expected the instrumental version of “America F- Yeah!” But that too.
Yup ..I did expect Hickok to be honest.
Definitely thought it was gonna be Garand Thumb 😂😂
This video doesn´t tell the whole story: Marcolmar builds are quality, and they have put great attention to detail giving new life to what was a shitty rifle. ALSO, hot 5.56 has to be used with CETME L to work properly, since they were designed to work with the SUPAH HOT Santa Bárbara 5.56 ammo from back in the day. Last, but not least, the manual states that there is a break-in period where jams can happen, typical with some stamped guns. Give it some love for a couple hundred rounds and it will be very reliable.
That was, without question, your best intro in years! Excellent work!
Greatest intro of all time! Love the videos.
always a great day when matt uploads
Roller lock guns tend to throw brass into the next zip code. Watching that example of it barely clearing the port means the rollers might be too tight. Easy fix but annoying. Can verify a set of shims behind the bold face and bolt
Or, more likely, using too weakly loaded ammo
@@SonsOfLorgar it's not weakly loaded ammo.
my cetme-L throws brass like 30-40 ft lmao
it just needs to be broken in, Marcolmar recommends that the first couple hundred rounds through the rifle should be heavy full power ammo like M855, they even write it on a brightly colored note in the box with the rifle, it's fairly hard to miss.
the skit honestly felt like the racist sunglasses vine from way back when, and I love it
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@flower has eaten Why the fuck are these on EVERYTHING?
@@BigJoker some new comment bot. ;(
Rudy actually did a full length video on it a few years back
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I can always assume that I'll be absolutely entertained watching your videos. Best stuff there is.
Love the mag eject sound of the m1 garand. By the way the little video montage was great lol. But man that’s some pretty tough bullet proof glass! Another great video!!
technically the m1 garand has a built in mag and what you’re ejecting is the clip
the CETME L were infamus for having way to weak of springs. you will want to find aftermarket more powerful springs or find a way to get the recoil spring to have more tention behind it. my budy literally stuck a shell casing behind the spring and that fixed it for him.
I swear Matt you and you’re introductions always have me dying of laughter and making my day 😂
7:59 LMAO!! Caught me off gaurd.
New subscriber. Got alot of catching up to do.
I find once a firearm jams once or twice, you never feel like it's reliable even if it doesn't jam for the next 100 rounds.
If it jams once after a few hundred rounds, eh, okay. Keep an eye on it. If it jams multiple times within a few hundred rounds, I don't wanna EDC it. That's why I'm on my second 9mm shield. It's not the highest capacity pistol, it's not easiest to modify, it's a little jumpy... But damned if it hasn't had a single malfunction in over 5,000 rounds spread over both guns. Even my glocks have an occasional stove pipe. But the little Shield 9 that I can go buy for like 350 bucks out the door hasn't jammed or had any sort of malfunction once. That's shooting steel ammo, all sorts of hollow point, shooting with a 12 dollar promag magazine, and even with a RDS it's not really designed to have. It'd be nice to have 15 rounds but then again the shield is so small it really is incredibly easy to IWB carry and barely notice it which is nice. And way more important... It shoots. Every time. I know when I pull my gun out and squeeze the trigger that 124 grains of Federal HST will exit that barrel at around 1,000 FPS. And you know what? For a 300 dollar gun, it's actually pretty damned accurate. I can reliably pull off head shots in roughly the center of the head at 10, 15, even 20 yards. I wouldn't care to start trying to get crazy at over 50 yards, but I have full confidence that if I needed to I could get hits on a man sized target at anything less.
@@riptaway Some guns need a bit of breaking in though. It could jam a few times within a few hundreds rounds, and then run smoothly for the rest of it's lifetime.
@@joost1120 they're not boots, guns don't need break in periods. If they have multiple malfunctions they're not reliable
@@riptaway guns are machines made by man, almost every gun I have ever had at least shoots a little better after a few hundred rounds. Some went from unreliable to stone cold killer and and some went from bad to holy crap I can't believe Remington ever let it out of the factory. Friends don't let friends buy a 522 Viper.
Camshafts aren't boots either, but if you don't break them in, you're in for a bad time.
And for the same reason, too. Either application involves metal to metal contact in a situation involving high speed, high pressure, high temperatures, and the potential for excessive friction if machined surfaces are not properly bedded together.
Would love to see how Gorilla Glass from Corning Inc. would hold up. They are pretty proud of it’s toughness, see if they’ll set you up with some large enough to test.
0:36 thanks for the Honorable Mention,
try to not shake this Taurus so much bcs it can shot without a Trigger 🇧🇷
I can't lie I thought you were going to turn into Robert Oberst! But the eagle was awesome!
Love you bro, keep it up, your content makes me happy and has helped me through so much! Love from South Africa 🇿🇦
Eyy what’s up my SA brother
Awe SA boiis let's go
@@sruplal awe bru!!
I occasionally talk to this girl from Zambia. She always talks about buying things from South Africans. I guess they own the shops in Zambia?
Genuintly every DemoRanch intro is good, but this one is just special!
This was the first one in years i actually watched all the way through. Was gold!
Diminutive school transportation Special?
I'm Brazilian and I lost it at the football guy with a revolver
I used to work in a glass laminating factory, it is the layers and thickness of the vinyl, that give most of the capture of the round. The glass is mostly tempered glass. That is why it turns to a cube or sand type of debris. And we were always told, it's not bulletproof. It's bullet resistant. Also the tempered glass used in most storefronts, will be strong enough to Ricochet 12 gage XX shotgun pellets back in your face. Always shoot it in the corner of the frame , to run the cracks and weaken. Great site. 👍
Why would you have this knowledge let alone spread it to million of people you don't know of the internet? That doesn't seem wise. "Attention all armed robbers, it IS possible"
@@josecartagena9173 U never been to a library before? There's lots of scary dangerous knowledge in those buildings !
thanks for the advice LMFAO 😂
@@joeh858 Right because people nowadays rent a book from the library in order to learn something. Not like there's the internet. That's besides the point though as I'm talking about the THOUGHT to begin with. Who wakes up and says to themself "Damn I wonder if I could get past bulletproof glass... let's find out!" lol
@@joeh858 Also your comment is flawed because the last place any armed robber is going to go is a library. If they had knowledge then they wouldn't be robbing stores to begin with. They would know how to manage money better.
Gun vids ..gun vids...gun vids.. Until you you just did that intro ! Brilliant . No monotone discussion . Just brilliant . I'm still smiling while replaying that .Good content as well.
The CETME/HK-91 pattern guns do require a bit of break-in. Mine (a PTR-91) actually did need some manufacturer reworking to replace the ejection lever and springs in order to get it to run more cleanly, as it also frequently had failures to eject. She runs fine now, but it's still a bit of a mule. I really need a welded rail and Spuhr stock.
8:43 it seems like the springs just aren’t allowing enough rearward travel, and the ejector doesn’t have enough dwell time to kick the round clear of the chamber.
@DemolitionRanch
Another strange thing about his Cetme is that it's only ejecting brass about 2 feet from the chamber. CETME-L's are famous for violently ejecting brass 20-30 feet. I have one and it kicks the brass like a mule. Not sure if what you're describing is causing his weak ejection or if it's just undergassed so the bolt carrier is not moving fast enough rearward.
Bad rollers
@@cedagcedag said weak ejection heheh heh heh hehheheh
@@cedagcedag I’m just basing it off of the mangled brass. I’ve heard that it’s relatively common for those parts kit guns to be oversprung. But I’m also pretty sure that the Cetme uses a roller delayed blow-back, like the G3/MP5, so I don’t think gas is a problem, but I could be wrong
You should totally have a Playlist of just your intros and/or skits to be able to share short videos with friends. This intro was HILARIOUS!!!
Using a laser pointer diffracting in the glass panels might help you more easily see the layer boundaries and reveal small fractures in a "deepest" layer you normally might consider undamaged.
Matt I'm having a pretty rough day. And this video has made me smile. I appreciate that
Me too. Thanks, Matt! Shoulda saved the eagle for 4th of July....unless that means hes got something even better....ooooohh....
Hoping you both have better days tomorrow. Good luck fellas
Interesting... although the CETME L isn't known for reliability, this appeared to be a reproduction, considering that imports of entire guns are low since they are originally machine guns. Since it's a reproduction, the unreliability may be a bit of an unfair judgement?
Also most guns have hiccups in the first few hundred. Guns always run better when broken in. He said these were literally the first shits but I think if the ejection port was slightly bigger it would work better lol
Cetme is known for its reliability. Pretty cool gun, developed in late 40s and based off of the STG 45. Cetme and HK worked together and the germans ended with the G3.
It's a shame that Spain's economical crisis in the 90s made them adopt the G36.
Spaniard here. The CETME L is garbage, not because it is a bad gun, but because it was built cutting as many corners as possible. Pretty much everyone I know that served while the CETME L was in service tell me the same, that it jammed from time to time, curiously, the ones used by the Guardia Civil (spanish gendarmerie) were ordered to be built using higher standards than the ones from the army, so they were really good guns.
The same happened with the AMELI, the UK was interested on it, but they rejected it after they saw how cheaply made (and because of this, unreliable) they were.
On the other hand, the CETME C, the original one which the German G3 is based on, is known to be a great gun, sturdy and reliable.
@@TheLadderman the bolt is returning before the shell can clear the ejection port, maybe a slightly heavier buffer would make the difference in bolt delay enough to allow the shells to eject freely. Edit: nevermind cuz these guns don't have a buffer lol. It would need the roller delay surfaces adjusted or something.
I have a cetme l from marcolmar (same as in the video). They come with a big yellow paper in the box that says to run 150 rounds of 62gr milspec ball ammo to break it in. Sure enough the first 150 rounds I ran through mine had ftf and fte issues. After 150 rounds it was like magic, haven't had an issue since. Matt should really learn to read lol
Im sorry to hear about your tragic boating accident where you lost all of those firearms shown in that final scene
That was quite a loss bro._
If its time to lose them its time to use them. Stop letting tbe government take over.
Great vid, the matador bits were awesome! Always like seeing black and silver tip rounds being used. The gun reminds me a bit of a galil
He’s an idiot should have read the manual talking about the break in period
No disrespect of course, but I’ve seen a lot of Cetme-L’s that function perfect. I’ve fired one myself without fail. Seems like the problems you were encountering are more at fault from whoever you bought this from. Heck, even Administrative Results’ CETME functioned just fine. Maybe they sold you a lemon or a cheap copy.
It’s a lot build copy out of I think Ohio? I have the same gun. The copy isn’t cheap by any means. But it is ammo particular, like the original at first. Matt likely is just mismatching all of his various 5.56, and the stuff with lower pressures won’t work well in the cetme. It only like the nato spec kinda stuff.
The CETME-L was the worst Assault Rifle ever adopted in Europe and the build quality for many was about as bad IO Inc.
Imagine everything that went wrong with the L85, but imagine worse.
@@Seth9809 nah I wouldn’t say it’s worse than the l85. The l85/sa80 project was a disaster before production started, and the gun had design flaws along with bad manufacturing quality. The cetme l has an ok design, it’s the bad manufacturing that gave it it’s bad rep.
@@Seth9809 the cetme is a good rifle that was poorly made cuz Spain wanted to save money. The design is totally fine.
i love how matt always put a lot of effort just to make a fun intro for us.. i love you matt.. you're the best.
The impressive thing is the time it takes to make all of the cut scenes.
I gotta say, the first 30 seconds of this video were pure gold. I see why you have so many subscribers.
Mom: It’s ok Bald Eagle Matt can’t hurt you
Bald Eagle Matt: 1:05
The intros never disappoint🤣
It's official. Matt has finally lost his mind with these intros lol luvin it
There was several rifles that used En-bloc clips. But they didn't launch out of the top of the weapon once empty. They fell out of the bottom of the rifle. The Mauser Gewehr 1888 and Bertier Mle 1890 are two of the more famous ones. Many of the rifles used in World war I started with this system, but all were eventually modified into the stripper clips we're more familiar with today, since I think we all know what having a small opening in the bottom of your gun that can't be effectively closed up or covered will do the action, internal magazine and chamber of the weapon when you're just carrying it out around in the field, much less once you actually get into combat, and worse, if you're unlucky enough be fighting in one of the locales that people most think of with mud, muck and trenches in France.
matt just makes my day better
My most favourite sketch so far :D Still since 2014 watching ur channel, and ur improvements are insane. Keep that up. Greetings from Germany :D
That was an amazing video! As a Brazilian I can confirm: we go to the range and shoot Taurus guns until we are out of footballs. I was able to explore the world and see new things thanks to Mighty 😻 Travels 👀 Premium.
stolen comment lol
Your camera guy actually did a really good job at showing the different layers of cracks.
So besides 70% of service rifles from the late 1800's, the Garand is the only rifle to use an en-bloc clip that ejects automatically, though most do so as they load the last round.
But semi-automatic rifles that use en-bloc clips are few. I can only think of the RSC and Pedersen rifle, and the RSC needed you to manually eject it.
French Canadian design. But you probably never taught that.
Italian Carcano used an enbloc clip that ejected out of the bottom of the magazine
Hey Mat! Been waiting for you to upload, been wanting to ask if it were possible for you to get and shoot a .950 JDJ or some other crazy round.
Check out Forgotten Weapons channel he's got videos shooting it and going over the rifle. Just search it
Nah that’s a Kentucky ballistics things
There’s only 2 or 3 of those guns in existence and they sell for like $40-80k because if this. Also they don’t make the ammo for it anymore. It was expensive back when they made it, I remember buying a live brass monolithic round as a collectible for like $40 bucks. Ridiculous. Anyways check out Forgotten Weapons like the other guy said. That’s as close as you’ll get.
@@xthee_0nly_1x11 that's why I said or something because I realize that round would be hard to aquire but perhaps he could even do a collab with that TH-camr or something to get some massive rifle on the channel even if only for an episode. I have a feeling it would get tons of views too so even if he did pay a bunch for one he'd probably profit overall
@@xthee_0nly_1x11 The cartridges that gun fires are made by trimming and resizing 20mm Hispano cannon brass, and it was always intended for use with hard-cast lead bullets. In the admittedly unlikely chance he ever got somebody to lend him one, ammunition certainly could be made, and I can all but guarantee whoever owns them also owns the brass, bullet molds, and loading dies.
That intro was absolute gold
Your intros are so entertaining and creative!
I'm impressed with that glass, I've seen WW2 surplus black tip 30-06 go through a nearly inch thick steel I beam that came from a railroad bridge. Tough stuff!
well you also gotta think thats not a full power 3006 as the m1 garand cant take the pressure of modern rounds so if you get that back tip and put it in a new case and reload it to now days pressure for 3006 is about 65,782psi for modern day and max of 55k for m1 you can get about 568 fps more or about 890 ftlbs more energy
@@jacobstallcup8648 Nothing you said is relevant to what NOLA_Ken said. He specifically referenced military issued WWII black tip ammo, which was commonly and safely shot in M1 Garands, doing specific damage to something. Snipers using M1-D configurations commonly used black tip as their ammo of choice. Military 30-06 is “full power” by caliber and military standards, and by no means underpowered or anemic. You can always load hotter cartridges in a bolt action than you safely can in an auto-loading gun, as there is no pressure/timing used to cycle the action in a bolt gun, and no mechanisms set in motion by gas pressure. The Garand was simply designed to reliably run off of the timing and (still very high) pressure of M2 ball without damaging moving parts. There is also a difference in the burn rate and potential energy of the powder used in military 30-06 compared to modern hunting ammo, which makes a huge difference in the pressure spike exerted on the moving parts of a Garand. With minimal modifications, you can run the HOT loads you’re referring to in a Garand. However, since it’s not a hunting rifle, it’s usually not all that important to most owners.
Point is, that window got hit with full-fledged 30-06. No reason to act like it was just lucky it only got shot by a Garand.
@@Lukronius nice
As a spanish guy following you for almost 4 years i think, i recommend you to put your hands on a Cetme C chambered in .308 (the one with wodden stock and handguard). My grandpa told me it was a great gun (he used them when he was doing the military service and when served in the Civil Guard). They were mede before Spain joins the NATO, so they could spend more per gun, not like the shit they made after. Love the videos, and the best intros in yt
I got to fire HK G3s (.308) in Germany when I was stationed there. Pretty much the same weapon, I believe. I liked them.
The CETME is a G3/HK91 (HK-93 for 5.56). The G3 (7.62 x 51) does hammer your shoulder. Its accuracy is reliable to 300 yds or so in its vanilla form. It's a battle rifle and not a tack driver. I have a G3 but really just as a collection piece. The G3 has it's place among the AR/M16, FN FAL and AK-47 platforms as 20th Century modern battle rifles. The G-3 ejection port is fine. I've never had a stove pipe or failure to eject. I have no experience with a 5.56 version though. It seems a delayed roller is overkill for 5.56.
Hey Matt, I have been thinking of an item that would give you trouble to shoot through, and I think I have a challenge for you a Church Bell. When I was a kid, I had the job of going to the bell tower and cleaning the bell once a month. I remember how thick it was, and when the church removed the bell, it took 2 cranes to get it down safely. Just an idea. What do you think.... maybe???
literally over here dying laughing at that intro!! Your intros never fail to make me laugh or make my day so much better!! thank you Matt for everything you do!!❤
Matt: He always sights in his guns and keeps them clean 😆
Like never he doesn’t know how 😁😞.
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@@gcart5619 my daughter does that to me all time 😂
Favorite Intro so far