What is Consciousness? - Carlo Rovelli Debates Buddhist Monk Geshe Namdak
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- In this engaging dialogue, Buddhist scholar Geshe Tenzin Namdak enters into a profound conversation with Prof. Carlo Rovelli a renowned Quantum physicist, about consciousness's enigmatic nature. This discussion traverses the intriguing intersections of quantum physics, Buddhist philosophy, and the mind's immaterial essence, challenging our conventional understanding of reality.
Carlo Rovelli and Geshe Namdak explore whether consciousness can be broken down into quanta and discuss the implications of viewing the mind and matter from both scientific and philosophical perspectives. They delve into the concept of consciousness as a process rather than a static entity, drawing parallels with the nature of life itself as understood through modern science and deep philosophical inquiry.
This dialogue invites us to reconsider the fundamental questions about the mind, brain, and their interconnectedness with the universe, suggesting that a comprehensive understanding of consciousness may require synthesising scientific insight and contemplative wisdom.
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I see mind and consciousness as non-local infinite quantum field in the formless dimension and brain in finite localized space-time form or material dimension; but brain is immersed in the infinite field and can receive and transmit information in different vibrations from and to the field of unbounded mind consciousness ~
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Susmita!
Makes sense, if QT is actually fundamental.
Finally some Nagarjuna-love.
I think we can tackle the mind-brain issue from two different levels. On a substance dualism level, which we find in Hinayana philosophy and much of modern thinkers, it is really mysterious and will require a lot of research (which might be inconclusive afterall). But, as Carlo pointed out, the Buddha and Nagarjuna demonstrated how both matter and mind are, on the ultimate level, insubstantial. So on this level, there’s no fundamental distinction between mind and brain because neither is ultimately findable. Therefore, we can’t say they’re different and obviously we can’t say they’re the same. I think its a matter of level of analysis.
Rovelli probably unintentionally but put forward a Samkya vs Vedanta vs Buddhism analysis.
The brain 🧠 and body is what consciousness looks like from a certain perspective. The universe ✨ as a whole is what consciousness looks like from a certain perspective.
I suggest everyone interested in “consciousness matter” to listen the point of view of another Italian physicist (known better in Silicon Valley how one of the inventors of the Microprocessor and Touch Screen technology), his name is Federico Faggin.
He is currently funding scientists in Europe and USA who are interested in this matter.
He has a good point in believing that consciousness is not an epiphenomenon of the brain’s activity but a phenomenon itself ( irreducible) which is being detected by our brains.
May I suggest that Space/Time and Consciousness are equivalent. The matter of our brain being equivalent to the matter of the universe.
"As above, so below; as below, so above. As within, so without; as without, so within." and "The all is mind". What you're saying is pretty much the first and second principle of hermetism ;)
We have to assume that consciousness is a fundamental quantity, like mass, length, time etc. It can be detected. It can possibly be measured. But, it cannot be explained in terms of anything else simpler.
Why would you assume that it's fundamental?
Consciousness can be experienced "In-Itself" in the state of Samadhi (Satori). No problem, access the foremost Shiva mantra from the Rig Veda: "Mahamritunjaya mantra - Sacred Sounds Choir" Listen to it for 5 min per day for at least two weeks. In due time you will and tap into and merge with the non-dual Reality, what Spinoza called Substance, also called by Aristotle "Being-In-Itself", the One of Plotinus, the Tao, etc.
The brain is not the mind we know this through Bardo experience when brain is dead life continues,,he has to make clearer stand on this point..cause then he also says that the mind can be more real than the brain..which is contradiction not a paradox
@@jasoncullen8430 incorrect there are literally tens of thousands direct experience of ppl who have come back to life explaining Bardo there are also astral traveling ppl who leave body while still alive and proven reincarnation experience look up unmistaken child documentary
NonDual . . . MindMatter 🙏
WHY is it so hard?
ParaDox 🙏😹