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"There's nothing reasonable about me!" - Louie Simmons
Awesome.
Louie is a genius, yes his gym was equipped but the contributions to fitness with his patented machines are beneficial for everyone
I love the way Louie talks, there is no low volume
Great stuff. For those struggling, read more of Louie's stuff and watch more vids. Over time it starts to blend together.
For critics, yeah he's not an Oly coach. But one point that stands out is that good Oly Lifters are strong. And sometimes we get caught up just focusing on technique. Strength can overcome bad technique, but good technique cannot overcome no strength.
Doug's facial expression when listening to Louie is just amazing, hahaha
Thats badass!!! Thank you for reading the comments and replying! Yall have helped a lot with my training. Tried to link it as well. Worth the watch if viewers are reading this.
Louie is right he's different when he's in the gym. It's so good to listen to.
Snatches and C&J are directly related to your maximal strength in squats. Louie isn't wrong. Abadjiev, Chen Wenbin, Pendlay, they'll all tell you that. Heavy high-bar back squats and front squats are premium lifts to become better at OLY.
Also, accommodating resistance and using Hooke's law to address the lifter's natural strength curve is what's missing in OLY. It's a legitimate technique in creating power in any movement. Louie can be wrong about some things, he's not wrong about that.
"The body was never meant to move slow. It was meant to move, explosively!" Thank you!
Humans were "meant" to chase down prey over long distance so explosivness has never been our trait
@@christofferwikner3672 humans are only about 40% slow twitch muscle
@@maalik310 Sure but that is a relative term. We are a super slow and weak animal compared to others whilst having extremely good endurance.
Would love to know what Louie Simmon's top 10 reads are. He is AWESOME!
Man now I gotta buy the book.
Need to see more of this
Dying to get in the gym and lift tomorrow!
these jerk and lift movements are beautiful and powerful .. celebration of the human body and its physics
natural laws
Great video! I never saw this one before. It's motivational to say the least.
Really interesting video. Thank you!
King Louie. Love this guy!
There is more knowledge in this video than 8 years of football school weightlifting.
I was guilty of talking shit about Louie coaching Olympic lifts, however upon reflection I think his conjugate method and banded work is the best programming implemented in the United States today.
Doug's face throughout the entire video is hysterical. Love that Louie Simmons is quoting Jonathan Livingston Seagull though.
I think this is 300 or so in this video I made of our team at the Arnold ... it wont let me link in comments so just search this on TH-cam... "Releasing My Confession - Faction Weightlifting at The 2013 Arnold Sports Festival" - CTP
so, did your clean and jerk increase?
The ramble is real
As for Louie and his lack of OLY champions and record holders, it's because no elite lifter from that discipline has ever come to work with him. And that's exactly what he's saying. Give him some talent and he'll make them internationally competitive. For example, let him work with Kendrick Farris from the US and see what happens.
Btw, I'm not saying that Louie is guaranteed to turn out Olympic champions, but accomodating resistance techniques work for every athlete I've ever seen use them.
This post is old as hell, but I'm going to respond and back you up anyways. Not only has he coached more world class athletes (obviously powerlifters, but also college and pro football players, soccer players, runners, combat athletes, and more) than any other single coach in the US, but the roots of his teachings go back further than most people realize, and even *started* in Oly lifting. All you'd (royal you, not you specifically) have to do is look into the training history of Vasily Alexeyev (who set 80 world records over the course of his oly lifting career) and watch how he developed his own training methods.
At different points his training involved involved hundreds of kettlebell swings in a session (what would now be called GPP, as well as a crazy degree of accessory work), and even doing his basic lifts, especially his pulls, squats, and presses (still in the Games at that time) while standing in chest high water in the pool (the original accommodating resistance). No one could doubt that man's raw strength or abilities in lifting, and he was doing all that before Louie's main inspirations were even printed. These techniques can easily work with oly lifting with some adaptation. Hell, that's where they got their start, whether it's recognized these days or not.
Some people just like to bitch. Let them stay clueless. Anyone who has been involved in strength sports longer than instagram has existed know the impact Louie's techniques and teachings have had across the board. They might not use Westside methods or even conjugate training specifically, but try to compare how many championship powerlifters, strong men, and even Highland Games athletes have used something (bands, GPP work, etc) they'd have never known about if it weren't for Louie compared to the number of champions who never touched any of it. Its not even a question.
"the only difference between geared lifters and clowns is that some people actually care about clowns"
lmaaaooo gear came before raw bruh
Coach JG homo erectus came before homo sapien. Homo sapien is better though.
@@Ainttrippin how can that even be possible. maybe in competition with a federation. But if your telling me that lifting weights with equipment came before lifting weights with nothing thats wrong
why would you be against gear?
eventually people will lift with exoskeletons and itll be fucking sick
as long as the competition is fair, run that shit
im a raw lifter btw
awesome video!!!!!!! Learned a lot
At 42:40 Louie Simmons says (direct quote so grammar and continuity are dubious)
“If I put bands on a bar - if you were in shape- I will leave money… ‘cause I bring… when I did crossfit seminars here - I don’t have time - that’s why Laura Phelps and her husband and AJ Roberts do them - I would bring cross fitters - I’d put eight crossfitters out there, they’d break their clean record that day!”
***So for the sake of Louie’s reputation***
“Did Mike break his clean record that day?”
awesome video.
great video really enjoyed it
Well i am not arguing, i am just posting data and I haven't stated anywhere that Klokov is awesome. In fact there are better lifters than him in his own weightclass. Klokov was just example as there's extensive visual documentation of his training etc. I referred to video of him competing as 14 year old boy. Intention was to show that to come close to his level you have to work that hard. No bands were used there, while he is in the country mr. Simmons refers to as the source of his knowledge.
Just found this little jem. RIP Chris hope you found your westside in the sky.
mattmax85 is Chris dead
yup
19:52 gold.
This shit is priceless. The GOAT in the wild
The Clarked rep around 10:30 with 43% of his 1RM (60kg miss from a guy who claims to clean 140kg at the beginning of the video) shows just how much that "chair drill" helped Mike's technique.
I wonder if these guys still talk about there visit to Westside Barbell
Where did Louie get such a beef with Oly coaches? I've noticed a common theme when he talks about the sport.
***** I'm just curious why he tends to give Olympic coaches a hard time.
@christopher where did you get that information ?
Just american olympic coaches because they suck. He idolizes the former soviet coaches.
Legend
gents, been making my way through the westside book of methods before these casts. it would be awesome to understand how to incorporate their training. not sure if thats easily answered though.
That quote about the rock in the parking lot is so fuckin true
i guess i have to figure out a band rig up for my platform
Psychological barriers ! Louie knows and has heard every excuse.
If you think that addresses what I stated, you're not understanding. The point remains: Could Klokov be any better with the use of some of the techniques that Louie is talking about? You don't know one way or another. Maybe Klokov would've won the gold medal in the '08 Olympics had he added some accommodating resistance work to his programming.
Your argument is, Klokov is awesome, whatever he does is optimal and he couldn't be better. Why? No proof of that.
Check out "Conjugate CrossFit" By Chris Mason on the crossfit journal.
It's my 11 week on it and loving it.
Yeah I feel like we would need to do a lot of reading the actual articles that Louie has posted on his website to understand 100% of this.
Mike's a beast
shoulda snagged Briggs for a pod, too!
74 dislikes were from the bands being stretched.
"children have no heros in American weightlifting because their spines were crushed from a missed banded jerk at Westside"
Wher can I get list of these exercises that loui is talking about??
I searched web didn't find any
Would love to hear the opinion of the guys on how they actually think this training would benefit (if at all) Olympic weightlifting. And id they will be implementing this sort of work into their program's. Surely the bands effect bar path, timing etc?!?
RIP to the gainz father
Well I mean, you can't argue with the results Louie's athletes have had
Lou was on coaching fire during this. Great coaching.
Yes, that's Louie Simmons
where can I get such bands.. been looking all over plz somebody lol
Rogue fitness, elite fts, westside barbell
Thanks
did I see sam briggs ?? between 4:30-5 min either way, this is an interesting training Idea. I have trouble listening to Louie ramble.
mind blown
I've watched training sessions where Xiaojun does pure hypertrophy training with isolation movements. Would you mock that as not OLY? I've seen him do high rep lateral raises, overhead cable tricep extensions, etc. How many western OLY coaches would think that's nonsense? Most coaches don't study the history and evidence from the past like Louie has. Instead of standing on the shoulders of giants, modern coaches are trying to reinvent the wheel even though they've been handed Pirelli F1 tires.
god dam louie has some huge forearms for his age!!!
To support my point on band use i'll cite from the record of mr. Klokov. You can easily find his direct competitors of those events.
Olympic Games:
2008 Klokov Silver
Worlds:
2005 Klokov Gold
2006 Klokov Bronze
2007 Klokov Bronze
2010 Klokov Silver
2011 Klokov Silver
Europeans:
2010 Klokov Silver
Above is factual data of the latest generation of lifters. Does mr. Simmons have any proof on the use of bands? Which one of the Russian scientists says anything about bands?
This was some good shit. Thank you.
Doug's face @ 5:40 lmaaooo
is this the guy from the documentary Bigger faster stronger?
Mike your the fucking man. to get in there and get it done and not give a shit.
Louie tosses out percentages and numbers like Rainman, and I can't keep up. For example, he says 65% of your training should be special exercises. Is that 65% of your actual movement selection or 65% of your volume? My brain is melting.
Louie with the Overeem shirt ;)
Louie needs to get his lifters to compete in the Olympic lifting competitions.
Louie discusses a book "why i failed Olympic weightlifting" at 1:10, I cannot find this book, any suggestions?
How did the universe not collapse in on itself when Sam Briggs brushed Louie?
This is a fuckin awesome video CTP keep it up
Like everything except the bands on the jerk. Use the bands on another lift to build that progression. That's just me
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Is that sam Briggs??
totally looks lik eher
Thanks guys this is fucking gold
Well that looks like a good way to injure someone.
Has Mike actually used this again? Or found it to be helpful?
Was that Samantha Briggs @ 4:26?
I think he meant Simmons?
So where could we find these 64 exercises?....
Did he break his clean PR?
This is how champions are made: search for "Klokov Dmitry - weightlifting beginning 1996 - PART 1"
No single band was used.
If you don't know who mr Klokov is, then you have to learn something.
Is mike prior navy?
damn louies amazing
This is some good shit
Louie probably had the best lifting form in prison
Unfortunately, you don't have the counterfactual to prove the point. Meaning, would Klokov been even better had he used some of Louie's techniques along the way? Technically, they're not Louie's techniques, but Medvedyev, Verkhoshansky, Baroga, Prilepin, et al.
7:47 you can see the band ripping, an accident ready to happen
ive done this with chains.
8:51 absolutely not.
f-ing bad ASS!
I want to see him clean 300
I think the video should've just been about eccentrics for weightlifting, that's a much more reasonable topic
bands anyone? must find
+Rene Villarreal rouge fitness, elitefts
"if you were in shape"
Mike was not in shape this day. Hamstring injury.
I am not mocking mr. Simmons for his lack of OLY champions, that wouldn't be fair. However he is mocking the rest of the US WL coaches while they can say the same thing. That they don't have enough talent. It doesn't work like this, "give him some talent". Does he have a WL gym? Does he market the sport to pull some talent to him? Most of the US WL coaches do this for free, in their garage and in free time because there wouldn't be much of WL in USA. That's what i see/read from abroad.
love this shit ;)
Does Louie like Spider Webs ???
that looks painful. i hate to think louie is trolling
The fact I use OLY should tell you how long I've been doing it. The fact you don't know that shows you're too inexperienced to critique anything I write.
1402
"You watch Chinese tapes, you know what they're doing? They're doing Westside training! Except I'm doing Russian training. And so are they."
Errr...
Soviet training halls invented concurrent programming, where there is no periodization, hypertrophy and strength are developed in conjunction. Chinese weightlifters train in a very similar manner as the Russians and Bulgarians of yester year.
Louis Simply found a way to make this style more generally applicable for athletes.
Louie forgot an important step, give Bledsoe steroids