Sempai noticed me! This is the closest I've come to a celebrity response. Anyway, your Fox looked good, especially since you'd barely used it before now. 2015 might be your time since I bet you'll keep getting better with the Fox and already took 2nd in the biggest event of all time. Shame about the Peach though, but it looked kinda hard to use against Marth and Jiggs. I heard you're a school teacher, is that true?
Even though the meta has evolved so much, and with both these players out of the game now, I have got to say, this is seriously one of the best sets to one of the hypest tournaments of all time.
Great job to PPMD for winning TWO CONSECUTIVE APEXES!! WOW! After a hiatus, too!! These guys were the most on-point I've EVER seen them: PP with that great mental game, Armada with that pure tech skill. These guys have gotten SO good SO incredibly fast it's unbelievable. It's just great, great Smash. Gratz to both players for such an amazing showing.
StarTard's YT Hub PP's Falco was on point first set for sure, and his Marth was on point in the second set as well. But GOD DAMN does Armada's fox look sloppy.
IncomingGhost Name a more memorable tournament (protip: you can't) >PPMD winning it all >salty suite >MY B >Bizzaro flame >last minute changes lead to grand finals being held at 2am but still having 100k viewers
Hello! This is one of my most favorite sets of all time; metagame did indeed make me come here again, but APEX 2015 has some other peak Melee moments such as "my B" and amazing Bizzaroflame clips. Bless this tourney.
Schéraz He is dealing physical problems. From what I understand he has low testosterone which gives him not energy and a lack of focus. So he has been taking a lot of time off trying to figure out the cause of it.
Nathan Harris Haha. I felt so depressed about PPMD's performance on Friday. He's such an amazing player. Do you think it's related to his depression and health issues and what not still?
I did hear about some health issues, such as really low energy from chemical imbalance. I heard his depression was getting better but that he's taking supplements from doctors to get his energy back. I'm not sure what the current story is. He certainly didn't seem to think he was back up to 100%. I'm just starting to wonder if he's ever going to get back to where he was.
can we talk about that amazing edgeguard sequence of armada's first stock in game four? looks like he shinestalled twice because he knew randall was coming, but pp also knew and put out a bair anyway.
I think I heard that clash tournaments was banned from Apex and since Isai is CT and didn't wanna change his team, I think that's why he didn't show. Correct me if I'm wrong!
So, when I think back on these sets and PPs play, I usually think of the Marth. But the bird definitely had some moments. Also, Armada's fox is insane.
Armada's DI on Marth's F-air was so good those games. I got so excited every time PPMD got the hit, but Armada would go so far horizontally he never got the setup for the D-air :( But PP's Marth... 19:18 that stock is just Kreygasm.
Honestly PPMD is the greatest god, he’s the only one with out a weakness. Mang0 can never beat Armada, Armada can’t beat Hbox. M2king can beat all of them (SUMMIT) but he gets shook if goes into losers. PPMD is just way too good. After watching Mang0 beat Armada, and Hbox with Falco I still think PPMDs falco from 3 years ago was better. Like honestly, PPMD is like Armada and m2k combined. Analytical, and very mild, he doesn’t let emotions beat him, he always plays the best options. I love that, I try to do the same. PPMD please comeback and beat Hbox.....
Can anyone tell me why Armada's Fox didn't get launched by Falco's shine at 15:38? Instead he went into missed tech position for some reason. Is this not as weird as I think it is? Is it a stage quirk or amazing SDI or something? PP reacted to it perfectly so maybe it's normal and I just don't know enough about melee. Or maybe PP is literally a God.
I loved this set the only complaint I'd have was that Toph and D1 seemed to lack a bit of synergy. They just don't click like Toph and Scar, or D1 and Prog. Granted Prog's retired except when he's not.
He said in his interview he wanted data on armadas fox on dreamland so that in the second set he had an edge and he knew it would be peach Falco if he stayed
How did Armada's Fox reach that level? He's only been in the lab with him for a short while and he's already imo the second best Fox after Mango (his consistent wins on Leffen puts him at second). He made Hungrybox look like he had never played a Fox before, too. O_o
ShadowshadeGaming101 Sorry to say it but Armada's Fox is clearly better. I love both players, but it's obvious Armada's tech skill is better than Leffen's. Just look at their Fox ditto set which I'm sure you have. Also, Armada's Fox beat Hungrybox's Jigglypuff, took a set off PPMD's Marth, and beat Mango's Falcon. Can't say that for Leffen. His Fox didn't just beat Leffen's Fox just because he's bad at Fox dittos, although I'm not sure that's the case since he's beaten Hax, and Chillin a lot. He just can't beat Armada's, and for a reason.
If you follow tourneys in Europe, you'll have seen that Armada has used fox before Paragon and Evo. He's been training w/ fox for at least several months.
Wiitubeaccount I played with him a lot between March/May last year, but because smash of summer I dropped him completely. So I'm not super new to the char by any means, but my experience with him is very limited to other top Foxes (or compared to my Peach)
I still don't fully understand the switch back to marth. His falco was doing so solid. I get not feeling confident at the moment, but it was clearly providing results playing as falco.
Annotations need to be on. If you're on a phone though, I'm pretty sure you can't see annotations, so maybe that's why you didn't see the annotation link for set 2 pop up.
XxBlusilencerxX And for anyone who's on mobile, set 2 is a private video so here's a link. th-cam.com/video/K6E6Zp5sYvs/w-d-xo.html&feature=iv&src_vid=DEsp996TGak&annotation_id=annotation_2604564691
+Liam Hopfensperger sorry, first of all he didn't tech right. he got shot down from the side b and then he just rolled right. he didn't tech right at all. i slowed down the video and there is no puff of smoke from wavedashing after the roll. which means he did not wavedash. to further prove he did not wavedash, by slowing the video down and pausing very frequently after he gets up from the roll, he does not do the crouching part of fox's jump animation, which means he did not jump, which means he did not wavedash. D1 says that armada held down, allowing him to grab the edge. But I tried and I can never slide off the edge.
He knew what he was doing. It was the right choice. The reason he lost was because at the starting he messed up, and lost his stock, and at 0%. Instead of Armada losing the stock, PP lost the stock at 0% which is a big game changer. He also got him to the last stock as well, despite the -1 for him, and +1 for Armada. He would've had it for sure if it wasn't for that screw up.
If you watch the interviews, PP actually assessed Marth to be a good idea for Dreamland either way. If Armada had gone Peach, it would have been a win for PP, so PP knew Armada would go Fox, and he'd get another opportunity to learn more about the Marth. He used the info he gathered in game five in the reset.
Because armada counter picked to dreamland, and peach dominates falco on dreamland. He looked at those two options (Marth vs fox which hadn't been doing well, or falco vs Peach on a very bad stage matchup wise) and made the right decision, because as he won the second set with only Marth, he was able to adapt to armadas play style.
![Paragon 2015 - Leffen (Fox) Vs. [A] Armada (Peach, Fox) SSBM Losers Quarters - Melee](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/-X5ED5dcP8s/mqdefault.jpg)
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"I knew my Fox could defeat anyone in the world...except PPMD"-Armada
It showed pretty well it could defeat him ;)
Adam Lindgren Were you expecting PP to be at this level of play? He seemed a lot weaker at Evo, which was before his hiatus.
Adam Lindgren it couldn't defeat PP's falco...
Nathan Harris
I never count my opponents out.
I knew that he had been preparing a ton for the event so I knew he would be good.
So good shit to him =)
Sempai noticed me! This is the closest I've come to a celebrity response. Anyway, your Fox looked good, especially since you'd barely used it before now. 2015 might be your time since I bet you'll keep getting better with the Fox and already took 2nd in the biggest event of all time. Shame about the Peach though, but it looked kinda hard to use against Marth and Jiggs. I heard you're a school teacher, is that true?
Even though the meta has evolved so much, and with both these players out of the game now, I have got to say, this is seriously one of the best sets to one of the hypest tournaments of all time.
It still holds up very well
2015 armada would still be top 5 today
PPMD still plays on slippi
@@EA_SP0RTCENTERdefinitely not but he’d be close with a little work
Always has been, always will be.
It's been 6 years since this... That's crazy! I still remember staying up until 4am watching this knowing i had to be at school in a few hours.
tfw you watched apex ppmd sets over 20 times because he's on hiatus FeelsBadMan
Still watching. 9:54 is so hype.
still watching 😔
@@s3mdd Check out Golden Guardians! He's on there, and they all play a lot.
PPMD's falco is fucking sick
yup
Pp is sick. Literally :(
+PsyK Films :(
Gibran Salazar cry with me ?
+PsyK Films sure bro
13:39 "These combos can combo each other."-D1
Who would have ever thought the player that won and the commentator would be working together on a podcast
9:30
PPMD: Are you ready... ?
*Armada nods*
PPMD: For this dick?
Armada: Yes.
10:14
ARMADA DOES NOT LOOK READY FOR THIS
Oh god the lips actually match up with that
Charles Washington
Charles Washington
5:55 m2k hitbox knowledge right there.
+Samuel Ward I was about t comment the same thing xD
This set was so hype live. It made my respect for PP reach new heights.
Anyone rewatching this amazing set after the smash doc?
Great job to PPMD for winning TWO CONSECUTIVE APEXES!! WOW! After a hiatus, too!!
These guys were the most on-point I've EVER seen them: PP with that great mental game, Armada with that pure tech skill. These guys have gotten SO good SO incredibly fast it's unbelievable. It's just great, great Smash. Gratz to both players for such an amazing showing.
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StarTard's YT Hub PP's Falco was on point first set for sure, and his Marth was on point in the second set as well. But GOD DAMN does Armada's fox look sloppy.
This has to be one of the best games ever. @Armada & PPMD two of the best ever to play the game. Hope Westballz can win a major with Falco.
Man, what a trip. Two of the best both now retired. I feel old.
Armada hasn't picked Peach once during the entire set....year 20XX is coming closer...
Good thing Hungrybox won't be changing to Fox.
Not with good Marth players like PPMD. Also Mango is considering switching to Falcon.
LukeMM95 Where'd you hear that?
lol m2k He posted it on Twitter.
LukeMM95 Hmm interesting, I never saw that on his Twitter. I'll be surprised if he does though
I've been watching these in 60fps with Speed at x0.5 for better analysis and the drunk commentary is real
MisterMcWilli LMAO!!!!!
This and set 2 make up my favorite Grand Finals of all time. PPMD Kreygasm
Both these guys are the most likeable gods
M2k ?
yeah and what about mang
They are all likeable.
@@dickbutt7310 mango kinda rude though
All 5 are likeable
ppmd and armada sets are probably the best, in general.
I miss these two man
Greatest smash tournament ever.
Matt Schultz what are you talking about. Mango and m2k and hbox played awful and the tournament was run like crap
IncomingGhost Name a more memorable tournament (protip: you can't)
>PPMD winning it all
>salty suite
>MY B
>Bizzaro flame
>last minute changes lead to grand finals being held at 2am but still having 100k viewers
Matt Schultz one of the most memorable. Not necessarily the greatest.
I like big house 4
don't forget about the power going out and the community pulling through and relocating THE WHOLE VENUE
IncomingGhost Comment deleted
This is still one of the best sets at one of the best if not the best tournaments of all time
This years apex lol
I didn't even know it happened
I cri evrytiem
Dan salvato got I think 9th AT APEX PogChamp Kappa LINK VIABLE BOYS?
0:04 “Alright, Armada vs PeePee”
Underrated Grand Finals
Falco is so much more hype than Fox...
I miss PPMD, the best Falco and best secondary Marth main :(
i remember when the entire chat got mad at PP for choosing marth XD
Also would be sweet to see PPMD and Armada make a return to the game / play PM.
Pm sucks
I miss PPMD in tournament so much
Probably the best Melee tournament to date
Is PPMD Doctor PP?
Yes
Hello people who come here after watching Metagame!
Hello! This is one of my most favorite sets of all time; metagame did indeed make me come here again, but APEX 2015 has some other peak Melee moments such as "my B" and amazing Bizzaroflame clips. Bless this tourney.
Bless everything about this tourney
This is definitively the most iconic melee set of all time.
I miss PPMD :'(
Any true fan of melee does. I think the same thing watching these older videos.
Wait what happened to him???
Schéraz He is dealing physical problems. From what I understand he has low testosterone which gives him not energy and a lack of focus. So he has been taking a lot of time off trying to figure out the cause of it.
Psychological problems
He hath returned
Dang, I miss this PP. I hope he gets back to this level.
+Nathan Harris Seriously, me too. Did you watch Battle Of The Five Gods?
As much as I could stomach.
Nathan Harris Haha. I felt so depressed about PPMD's performance on Friday. He's such an amazing player. Do you think it's related to his depression and health issues and what not still?
I did hear about some health issues, such as really low energy from chemical imbalance. I heard his depression was getting better but that he's taking supplements from doctors to get his energy back. I'm not sure what the current story is. He certainly didn't seem to think he was back up to 100%. I'm just starting to wonder if he's ever going to get back to where he was.
Nathan Harris Ah yeah for sure. I wonder too. I'd like to believe so haha. Let us have hope! Everyone send PPMD your life energy! =p
GRSmash releases a PPMD Falco combo vid and I immediately come here to enjoy PPMD in all his glory again.
Come back Kevin. Smash needs you.
i really like armada's double shines near the ledge, it seems really smart and i havent seen anybody else do that
This is probably the greatest set of all time for me
4:11 Turn up your volume and listen to the background
cant understand it
Someone in the audience said "Quit playing this shitty unviable character"
LOL
Daniel Mendoza Lmao I was looking for that one comment pointing it out
armadas reaction to pp's sakurai combo is pretty wholesome 11:40
PPMD and Armada both retired now, this is all we got now 😭
4:08 can anyone tell what that person in the crowd was saying
Not sure but I think I faintly heard someone dissing PPMD
something something, "and your shitty marth" or something..
Chevrium Sounded to me like "Quit playing this shitty something"
It was "quit playing your shitty marth!"
Chevrium he might've said something like "quit playing this shitty unviable character"
This is the defining point of high competitive Melee.
That Down-B to Up-B KO on Armada was orgasmic
here in 2017. Still one of the best sets of all time
can we talk about that amazing edgeguard sequence of armada's first stock in game four? looks like he shinestalled twice because he knew randall was coming, but pp also knew and put out a bair anyway.
this is the peak of melee
best smash tournament ever
Why can't I be this good at smash? (Immediatley plays Brawl) Oh right...
Are yall gonna post some N64 Matches from Apex 2015? I'd love to watch them. (too bad isai couldnt make it to the event)
He did play at the last apex 2014, but I think it was due to financial constraints or time issues he wasnt able to go.
Hey, just so you know, Team Spooky streamed Smash 64 finals, not VGBootcamp, so 64 will prooobably be uploaded there. Not sure, though.
64 is on TeamSpooky now
***** I was wondering why he wasn't in grand finals lol
I think I heard that clash tournaments was banned from Apex and since Isai is CT and didn't wanna change his team, I think that's why he didn't show. Correct me if I'm wrong!
If only PP was like this now
dude...that deep in thought look on 8:55 lol
This was the greatest tournament.
This is the best set of all time.
I don't know what they were saying ,but I do know that after game 2 they were cheering Falco for PPMD.
So, when I think back on these sets and PPs play, I usually think of the Marth. But the bird definitely had some moments.
Also, Armada's fox is insane.
Armada's DI on Marth's F-air was so good those games. I got so excited every time PPMD got the hit, but Armada would go so far horizontally he never got the setup for the D-air :( But PP's Marth... 19:18 that stock is just Kreygasm.
Honestly PPMD is the greatest god, he’s the only one with out a weakness. Mang0 can never beat Armada, Armada can’t beat Hbox. M2king can beat all of them (SUMMIT) but he gets shook if goes into losers. PPMD is just way too good. After watching Mang0 beat Armada, and Hbox with Falco I still think PPMDs falco from 3 years ago was better. Like honestly, PPMD is like Armada and m2k combined. Analytical, and very mild, he doesn’t let emotions beat him, he always plays the best options. I love that, I try to do the same. PPMD please comeback and beat Hbox.....
BriLife PP was a shooting star. If he ever comes back, it would be improbable that he's as good as he used to.
Armada went 5-1 with Hbox in 2018...
Can anyone tell me why Armada's Fox didn't get launched by Falco's shine at 15:38? Instead he went into missed tech position for some reason. Is this not as weird as I think it is? Is it a stage quirk or amazing SDI or something? PP reacted to it perfectly so maybe it's normal and I just don't know enough about melee. Or maybe PP is literally a God.
Could have been the invisible ceiling glitch, SDI, or stage shenanigans.
this was Grand FInals for me. These are definitely the top 2 players in the world in my opinion along with Leffen.
PPMD is this generation's Isai
Damn, PP and Armada showing off their edgeguard skills in game 2.
I loved this set the only complaint I'd have was that Toph and D1 seemed to lack a bit of synergy. They just don't click like Toph and Scar, or D1 and Prog. Granted Prog's retired except when he's not.
I still don't get going back to Marth, but minus that shine spike he would have taken it.
+Roronoa D Vegeta Armada counterpicked to dreamland and ppmd probably didn't want him to switch to peach
He said in his interview he wanted data on armadas fox on dreamland so that in the second set he had an edge and he knew it would be peach Falco if he stayed
@@electromagneticlemon damn, thats next level
who came here after genesis 4 gf? haha
Those PPMD faces though :P
Ive been playing SSB4 for months now which has made me forget how freaking fast melee is
this set still the goat
How did Armada's Fox reach that level? He's only been in the lab with him for a short while and he's already imo the second best Fox after Mango (his consistent wins on Leffen puts him at second). He made Hungrybox look like he had never played a Fox before, too. O_o
leffen is a better fox(in general) but leffen is complete ass at fox dittos which is why its hard for him to win majors but armada has an amazing fox
ShadowshadeGaming101 Sorry to say it but Armada's Fox is clearly better. I love both players, but it's obvious Armada's tech skill is better than Leffen's. Just look at their Fox ditto set which I'm sure you have. Also, Armada's Fox beat Hungrybox's Jigglypuff, took a set off PPMD's Marth, and beat Mango's Falcon. Can't say that for Leffen. His Fox didn't just beat Leffen's Fox just because he's bad at Fox dittos, although I'm not sure that's the case since he's beaten Hax, and Chillin a lot. He just can't beat Armada's, and for a reason.
If you follow tourneys in Europe, you'll have seen that Armada has used fox before Paragon and Evo. He's been training w/ fox for at least several months.
Wiitubeaccount The thing is that several months of practice is not very much in melee...
Wiitubeaccount
I played with him a lot between March/May last year, but because smash of summer I dropped him completely.
So I'm not super new to the char by any means, but my experience with him is very limited to other top Foxes (or compared to my Peach)
Fox vs Marth is the greatest Melee matchup ever.
what did that guy say int he crowd?
Also wondering this lol
4:08 'QUIT PLAYING THIS SHITTY UNVIABLE CHARACTER.'
xD
GOAT SET
Damn D1 looking fly on that suit
That Falco is on steroids
Time for the Doctor to defend this title now
Did you forget to upload the second grand finals set??
The sun shined a lot that day
I still don't fully understand the switch back to marth. His falco was doing so solid. I get not feeling confident at the moment, but it was clearly providing results playing as falco.
What's that marth tech at PPMD used on pokemon stadium?
Return of the king and PPMD returned at set II
What did the guy scream at 4:15
Solace Snipe Quit playing this shitty unviable character
Elie4Elite Thanks! i hear it now
Lol what a fool. Zain just took down Hbox
Jack Pakela - Trumpet marth is unviable but zain is viable
14:10
I don't think he was trying to reflect the lasers back. I think he was air stalling himself to get onto Randall. I wish it worked out.
Wheres set 2??
Annotations need to be on. If you're on a phone though, I'm pretty sure you can't see annotations, so maybe that's why you didn't see the annotation link for set 2 pop up.
thanks!
XxBlusilencerxX And for anyone who's on mobile, set 2 is a private video so here's a link. th-cam.com/video/K6E6Zp5sYvs/w-d-xo.html&feature=iv&src_vid=DEsp996TGak&annotation_id=annotation_2604564691
This was just awesome!
If you think I'm crazy for cheering for Sweden, I like to see Armada win because I love his play style.
Amazing first set, came down to the wire!
At 16:35 , How did Armada roll and then grab the edge there?
+Liam Hopfensperger sorry, first of all he didn't tech right. he got shot down from the side b and then he just rolled right. he didn't tech right at all. i slowed down the video and there is no puff of smoke from wavedashing after the roll. which means he did not wavedash. to further prove he did not wavedash, by slowing the video down and pausing very frequently after he gets up from the roll, he does not do the crouching part of fox's jump animation, which means he did not jump, which means he did not wavedash.
D1 says that armada held down, allowing him to grab the edge. But I tried and I can never slide off the edge.
+Liam Hopfensperger lol, he just held down the stick when he rolled....
What the hell? Where's the second set?
PPMD is my hero.
I can't believe they still play this game competitively
11:15 PPMD's face lol.
the peak of melee
*Marth edgeguard*
2015: WOW COVERED ALL 4 RECOVERY OPTIONS
2020: nooooooooooooooo
2020: every nobody on Slippi perfect executing all coverages
Whyd he lose twice with marth win twice with falco then go back to marth
He knew what he was doing. It was the right choice. The reason he lost was because at the starting he messed up, and lost his stock, and at 0%. Instead of Armada losing the stock, PP lost the stock at 0% which is a big game changer. He also got him to the last stock as well, despite the -1 for him, and +1 for Armada. He would've had it for sure if it wasn't for that screw up.
Jesse Lol no, its because he had to go to dreamland and knew armada would counterpick peach
If you watch the interviews, PP actually assessed Marth to be a good idea for Dreamland either way. If Armada had gone Peach, it would have been a win for PP, so PP knew Armada would go Fox, and he'd get another opportunity to learn more about the Marth. He used the info he gathered in game five in the reset.
Because armada counter picked to dreamland, and peach dominates falco on dreamland. He looked at those two options (Marth vs fox which hadn't been doing well, or falco vs Peach on a very bad stage matchup wise) and made the right decision, because as he won the second set with only Marth, he was able to adapt to armadas play style.
Except PP came back to win three games straight in the match-up. It was a calculated loss on his part.
PP missing lots of easy punishes on Armada's center-stage illusion...He could've just turned around and grab fox...
PPMD my favorite Smasher. Set 2 know off Armada. :)
God man I wish I were here
wait a minute...where have I seen this before?