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just subscribed! Question...would you still buy the Type R knowing what you know now? I think the grinding issue from 1-2 and the lockout from 5-4 would drive me insane. Thanks!
@@harvardh Man, that is too good of a question. Honestly, I think I had to buy one, since I've wanted a Type R ever since the Civic Type R came out in Japan. I wish Honda would have made it just slightly better, but that's ok, I've taken it apart and improved a lot of it recently. My next car will be VERY different to this, and thankfully, it'll be here soon!
@@FlyinGato , thanks for the reply and keep up the great content :)
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I love my type R and have no regrets for this demon, no car is perfect I’m happy with what I have bought 😆
They did a great job on the Type R. The Civic was never the same after 2011.
Wheel problems ???
I haven't really had any transmission issues in my 2019, only time I get a grind is when I did not have the clutch in enough. I noticed 1st to 2nd doesn't like to be rushed when cold, need to let the gearbox get warm before you drive on it hard.
ALWAYS get it warm before driving hard in any car.
I find it mostly to be driver error.
Definitely true and usually driver error. When it happened to me it was either cold or I was too quick on the clutch and it wasn't completely down. 1st and 2nd I agree do not respond like the rest of the gears when you don't press the clutch all the way in.
I also agree with this comment. Cold morning this morning and I heard my 1st to 2nd gear when cold, but no grind from my 2019.
it's like this in my manual civic ex, so its a overall civic issue (sort of)
2019 Type R here and pretty much the only thing i have is the brake squeak, which i've learned to live with because thats just the nature of the car and its a track built car. No transmission, rattles or paint quality issues.
2017 here . Guess im lucky too
2019 here, agreed. Only problem I have found is brake squeal.
Sleeping problems only
Owned the 2021 Type R,
Can confirm the quality of paint, brake squeal and right passenger side rattle on low gears. Sold it and got more than what I paid for 😬😬
I blown my rubberband tires 3 days having the car...downsized to 18s rides phenomenal!
Yup me too
I have had my TYPE R 2016 black Edition for nearly 4 years just sold it after 43.000 miles i have never tracked it and have had no problems what so ever best car I've had i would highley recommend one treat them right and they will not let you down
Can confirm; 1st to 2nd gear grind not often but has happened about a handful of time, considering I daily drive mine and have about 50K miles on it . I bent wheel within a month of purchasing it so had to buy another one, and it does have some rattles inside mainly coming from the front dashboard.
We still here bro💪🏽
Awesome video man, initially subscribed for the Prelude content, but dig all of the content
I have a 2019 (bought 8/2019) and thought it was me at first with the shifting (coming from an 06 WRX) and had to learn to granny shift 1st to 2nd. Annoying! Immediately got 18” 57DRs which are fantastic, would cringe every time I hit a pothole with the stock 20s. I’ve had a few rocks in the rotor guards, one time it was really bad I had to pull over at work and thought I was dragging something. Installed rally armor flaps after watching your vid, that’s helped my front door paint. Immediately wrapped the front end of the ride and ceramic coated to protect the cheap paint. Tons of rattles, but it’s a $37k race car, what do you expect??? Wouldn’t trade it for the world though, finally installed the PRL HVI and sounds fantastic, just got Hondata and getting ready to install that tomorrow, many more mods to come!
Interesting video. I was impressed when I picked up my new 2018 Sonic Grey FK8 (RHD) at how solid the dash was but now there's a rattle/squeak from the dash just right of the binnacle that I am having difficulty locating. Might have a look at the pillar trim, now you have mentioned it. Never had any brake issues, but now and again a stone gets trapped against the metal shield behind the wheel/Brembo and boy does it make a noise, especially in reverse. Paint seems good and is now under TW Ceramic Spray coating. 20' wheels do look good but 30 profile rubber and pot holes, of which there are many in Scotland's back roads d are a big worry. Gearbox is a bit stiff/sluggish in 1 & 2 with cold oil but does ease off with temperature. My biggest gripe is the Infotainment screen. Give a rake of push buttons any day.
Have you tried the Acquity and Hybrid Racing short shifters? Which do you think is better?
that second gear grind is just you not clutching at the right time, it’s a very touchy gear for the type r, i noticed once i bought my new clutch it never occurs anymore. hope this helped.
This.
I grew up driving manuals in the uk and I’ve never had the gear grind - he’s just using the clutch slightly wrong.
All my cars have been manual. When I first bought my Type R I thought the second gear grind was a transmission problem, cause I was changing gears the same way I did it with my previous cars. but 2 years later owning the Type R I do understand that the grind appears when I am not clutching at the right time or I want to slam the second gear trying a super fast shift. First to second gear has to be a slower calculated shift.
Yeah, 1st to 2nd doesn't like to be rushed on the Type R.
What clutch you end up getting mason or you the oem one again?
Having owned my '18 FK8 for almost two years, I can vouch for the thin paint. Looks good- but chips easily. Brakes? No issues. Gear grind? Not really. Maybe 2 or 3 times tops, since I bought it.
Wheels and tires? Have replaced all four tires at least once, and repaired one wheel. But still prefer the feel and look of the stock setup. Rattles? Not that I have noticed. Nor were there any on my '17 SI even after 52,000 miles. The Type R has about 30k on it.
The thing to watch out for that should be included is the turning circle - large at 39.5 feet- which can result in curbing the wheels if you are not careful on a right turn. And make it harder to park or pull out of a space.
But once you adjust to that no biggie.
Would I recommend this car? Oh yeah.
Great videos dude and greeting from the UK! Looking at getting a Type R myself in the near future and each piece of content I want to see on the Type R it seems you have made a vid on, good stuff!!! 👍
Glad I've been able to help!
I seem to keep losing air in my tyres in my stock wheels/tyres and the tyre deflation light comes on daily is this a low profile tyre thing?
Hello friend, I am from Spain, the second gear has started to scratch me when I change quickly. What do you recommend to correct it? thanks greetings.
In the UK my March 2019 registered FK8 at one year old & 7000 miles does not suffer from gear grind, has no rattles, the brakes occasionally squeal in cold weather when feather light braking to a stop & the Polished Metal metallic paint, which had Autoglym Lifeshine paint protection applied when new, does not show any scratches whatsoever. To drive round any brake squeal I mark a spot to stop & do not feather the brakes, so just stop a bit more abruptly. No problems with the wheels so far. I did catch a rear wheel on a concrete kerb turning sharp right at 30mph but dealer checked wheel & it is true. I have had the spare wheel fitted which still leaves a good amount of space in the trunk/boot. I much prefer driving both previously owned FK2 & current FK8 more than any of the three S2000s' previously owned (two 09 reg & one 03 reg) & rate the gear change with rev matching always on, when warmed up, in the FK8 better than S2000. I find seats in FK2/FK8 are more comfortable than 09 reg S2000s' & same as 03 reg S2000, which had more comfortable seats than the 09 reg S2000s'. I did not find any problems with the paint on the S2000s', the 03 & one 09 one were six years old when moved on. The roads where I live, except for few places, are in generally good condition . If the road conditions are generally poor & have potholes then the FK2/FK8 are not suitable even in comfort mode. Both FK2/FK8, as reported, & from experience the S2000 are no good in the snow. Fortunately it does not often snow around Cambridge but if it does then I'd use my wife's CRV.
You’re probably using the clutch right that’s why, for all his positives Gato really abuses the clutch.
When you use it properly you get no issues
Nice video bro ty for info k series and trans...is it the same 6 speed as like a si? Got one coming soon and I skipped the k kinda b-j wife had a ep3 but manifold and header all backwards got me kinda confused.. is the head the only thing diff from a normal K when it comes to engine??
I have a 2021 LE and I have no rattles and no grinding noises whatsoever… And my paint is still perfect! I will report back in another six months to update this post!
We are here, my guy!
Gato, you are the man! Awesome vid. Helps alot.
great vid , nice to let others know of problems before they buy the car . i was put off the merc A45 because of serious gearbox issues , i hope this is not as bad . the merc gearbox is 11k to replace .
Has the airbag deployed looks like it on the steering wheel?
Is there a AC delete available for the FK8
Thanks Elias for another great review! I've ran into the paint issue on my 2006 Honda Odyssey so you can imagine how far this issue goes back. Problem started on the roof and made it's way to the sunroof and then down the side and hood. Does it matter what color the paint problem will show up on the worse? Our can is midnight blue pearl Metallic. Went to Maaco for an affordable repaint and it looks better than factory. Not bad for something that cost me just over 2K (other places here wanted 9K).
I hve the Midnight Blue Pearl On My 06 TL. Clear Coat On The Trunk Has Faded.
I've considered buying this car for a while (still am). Still struggle everyday usability, seats being one. Thanks for the long term recap. Own a '05 WRX and a '91 NSX (#85) neither have break squeal, rattles or gear grinding. Certainly there is a difference in build quality with the NSX but the car is 30 years old too . Good review
I’m looking to get one too but the gear grind issue is the one thing keeping me from confidently buying one
Did you get one?
@@zenshakujo8070 No, I was curious about the GR Corolla. I would probably buy the '23 CTR if there wasn't going to be a 8-10K mark up. Going to buy something this year to replace my aging WRX. It won't be the new one, too much plastic. With the Hyundai N cars at least we have choices
what is that thing on ur fog lights looks sick i kinda want it on my si
I just got my type r & i love it. But i definitely have rattle in the cabin. Trying to locate all of them little by little to fix it
I have 2016 accord, no rust issues and I live in northeast U.S. you have to wash under your car to get rid of the salt. During the winter I will go to a drive thru car wash just for this reason
Nice video! Why does your grill look different ?
I'm still here bro. No grinding issues from my 2017. But quite a few rattles coming my B pillar seat belt area, windows, seat belt fastener near the seat. Annoying!
The only big problems I’ve hade with my 2019 Honda civic type r is the brake noise but I get rocks suck between the rotor and dust shield and when I put it in reverse it’s some times hard. But at the end of the day I love this car more then any other sports car I’ve owned
The first to second grind is prevalent on the 9th gen si as well but only 1 to 2 when slamming it.
Had the 4th gear locking out on mine, so unfortunately I rejected the car back to the dealer as no fix was offered by Honda.
My fk8 lost power after overrev the engine went to safe mode, dealer says everything is fine it just need Ms to be retuned. Don’t know how true is that 😔
And know that Jake is around corner in his Scoobydo STI waiting for you
Love ur videos
Do you drive with the Auto Rev Match on or off? I feel with it on the car acts a little weird I turned it off and haven't had any transmission problems since would like to hear your input on that? Thanks #Gatosquad
I always have it off, I think the main thing that helps is slowing down your shifts from 1 to 2
@@FlyinGato I do not believe rev matching operates when going from 2nd to 1st ?
No, and also doesn't work in low RPM shifts, or low speed shifts
I kinda thought that the Honda and Acura would have paint issues. My Acura RSX has paint chipped off.
I have the same problem on my 2021 civic type r with the 2d gear motor maunt problem radio problem and mano factory paint 🤕
My type r only gets the gear grind if I'm launching from a dig which I never really do because it's a fwd hot hatch meant for the corners it's not a dodge challenger.
Snatching in second or "that grind" as you called it has been a common issue for Honda's since I was a teenager. You would think Honda would have figured that out by now. Just guessing here but those that have that issue have been hard on the gear box quite a few times at least that's my own personal experiences in my old 91 si prelude a 91 crx a 99 si civic and my current 07 si civic
Ehrling-great choice of background music.
Also, your discussion about the paint...that explains the tiny rust I got on my 2017 hatchback sport on the edge of my fuel cap, which seemed so random. I was wondering how in the hell I got rust ANYWHERE on the car so quickly.
does the wheel offset matter when choosing aftermarket wheels?
Yes it would matter because of the Brembo caliper up front. You would meet at least a +35mm off set and at least a 18" wheel to clear.
I was a bit surprised by the problems i've had. My FK8 air conditioning failed twice, the second time it failed 5 days after they fixed it. I basically had 5 days of aircon the entire summer. In Romania Honda is not very popular and people are on vacation in the summer so it took 2 weeks just to schedule a check plus another 3-4 for the parts each time. Then a metal collar opened up and broke that attached a turbo to intercooler hose. I lost all power getting off from the motorway, good thing i was only 20 km from home. It's surprising considering everything i've heard about how reliable Honda is.
In Germany we call this a "monday car", got one too (but a BMW 3er) - sometimes its just a big amount of bad luck 🥴🙄😄
Good video. Disagree with the transmission point, seems like it's a US thing. We don't really get that in the UK. Wheels absolutely agree, literally just collected mine from a refurb, near impossible to do and expensive. It's very rattly, if you're coming from a VW or German car you'll notice it even more. I just installed a loud exhaust to combat them :) paint is also very easy to chip. Oh the breaks too but the heatshield behind the the disc traps loose gravel and can sound like a transformer, you'll crap yourself when thay happens, thought the wheel was falling off.
i think the trans issue is more of a driver error thing, the type r has the same trans sold in all markets...
Developed paint for Honda
They spray just like any other manufacturer, but they use a different clear coat from the industry standard
Why is the badge a regular Honda emblem? Not the red one?!
I’ve been getting a massive amount of times we’re my breaks keep Grinding, particularly my front right break areas… any clue if you’ve had this issue and how to get rid of it once it happenes… pretty pebble is stuck
Yea small rocks get in it, drive in reverse a little to see if it goes away
@@FlyinGato do I apply breaks brother or just reverse. Thanks for getting back to me
Old fan still here😉
Yes im here🤩
The wheels are perfect for my taste, this car is perfect for some one that is never going to extensively modify it.
Nice wheels bro what kind are they and specs did u notice better grip on launch with those tiree
Konig Ampliforms 18x9.5 +35mm with 265 35 18 RE71R tires - very good setup for grip
@@FlyinGato you lowered on anything car looks great
No, stock height, for now
I’m thinking to sell my Audi Q7 and get this civic :)
Also I have exactly same radar detector😂 great sign to purchase Honda
The CMC mod is the worst thing you can do. The problem is the clutch rod adjustment. I had 1/4" of freeplay and would get occasional 2nd grind on my new 2019. I reduced the free play to 1/16". Transmission is butter. Also if the dealer finds the CMC mod. They will void the transmission warranty.
what shift knob are you running in this video?
Acuity
Next year I'll be looking for 2019 Type-R which I'm looking forward to.
Might as well get a 2020.
@@didafm I’m getting a 2021
I was Honda makes the best manual gearboxes does mass production cause quality issues?
I was told....
They have the best shift feel ever, but gear material quality isn't very good
They have been building them way before we got them....why would they have so many problems? Do the ones that had them before us have theses problems?
LIKE THE WHEELS
Thanks for the video. Much appreciated. It looks like it is time for a ceramic coating.
I will love if you can buy a Subaru WRX STI, that will be awesome!!! Or a comparison
do u have a problem too when its hot the ac cant deliver
I haven’t had that issue but a lot of people are starting to get that problem
Still here my bro from Dominican republic
thats if you track your TR.
cus we like to DD it like typical STI/EVO owner.
Have a 2020 type r. Only issue is the paint. I have paint chipped off on the BACK of the car. What the heck?
Honda paint has been a mess on every civic I own
Got my Civic almost an Year now. Never had any of these issues....
🙏🙏🙏
Haha nice I have same duo. White 08 s2k and white 21 CTR
You didn't mention overheat issue. How to improve it?
Cooling mods are a must, 2020 models fixed the cooling issues
Still Here. More on s2k videos lol
Gues you should work at honda in engineering i haven't had no problems with my transmission knore have any rattling
its depend on the driver he probably drive like a fool
Transmission problem on all type R 's 🤔🧐. Not mine and no one I know with fk8s have factory faulty transmissions.
Hispanish mechanic said is de calibration on the shifter need to calibrate
You just need to use the transmission properly; have had absolutely no issues in mine - you’re just slamming the gear in too roughly and not pressing the clutch far enough.
There’s absolutely nothing wrong with the transmission, abuse any gearbox and it will have issues. The sound in your example was you not pressing the clutch enough and the car was fighting you going into gear - happens in every car, learn to handle a manual😁
Never had a rattle🤔
I think people don’t do the right break in procedure which is why they are going through this problem.
Gabe Itches
Tbf Honda day they don’t need broken in; the engines get broken in before they’re put into cars I heard 😁
They know who’s buying them so they treat that way before they’re sold
Nice. My 17 # is 311.
I would like to see how you clutch engaged 1st to 2nd for the trans issue.
My trunk raddles like crazy in every bump....😔...need help
Put a camera back there to see where it’s coming from, or start tapping around to see if you can find it
Honda prelude didnt have this grind issue back in 99...I bought that new and it was a beast of a car, but it had issue with handbrake dissengaging on an up hill while parked and check engine light would light up here and there...
It rolled downhill from my garage and hit my neighbors wall...Honda couldn't recreate or fix the problem..The engine light was never fix as well...Ask for a lemon law, but Honda refused...I sold the car after the body repairs and sold that Prelude and never again bought a Honda...
Never had problems with Nissan, bought new vehicles from them 2x, 2010 Juke, 2017 Juke, no problems at all...Bought new vehicle from Mitsubishi 2017 Montero and no problems...
Now that I saw type R, I was willing to buy a new Honda, but I see alot of problems, reminded me of my stress from Honda, I back off, thanks for the info...
But good luck with those crappy Nissan JATCO transmissions or are you going manual with those too.
Saw you cruising through WB there. Hello neighbor :)
Hello there! Where is WB?
@@FlyinGato Hi!, Wilkes-Barre. You were on wyoming ave coming in from Larksville in the vid. I saw it in the video and was like, no way lol
Oh Yea I'm by there a lot, say hi if you see me!
@@FlyinGato Will do, stay safe
I ready have the rock on my disc make 3 diferent noise I take to dealership the the fix
Bro, you are right, I have a 2018 type r and all the problems you mentioned are standard on mini too Lol
I have my 2021. Got it used at msrp lol can you believe it. Mark up in these cars it’s stupid. Anyways I think they already work out all of those problems cuz I haven’t had no issues on my fk8.
Same
remember honda in the 90's? what if they did that again
Right ! Now a days the cars keep getting fatter and fatter :/
Dint the civic type r had bigger wheels for more grip in cornorse
reduces torque steer
Never wan to review my 8 gen 4dr
Why rattle? Because Race Car bro ... My 17 si is pretty quiet inside no rattles at all , but then again its a daily and doesnt get raced or abused....I got a bucket mr2 and crx for that, those have plenty of rattling lol
CRX ! Owned a '85 si , fun car
ja , ich bin mit meinem Type r nach zwei Monaten durch die Salzwüste von Palm Springs gefahren . der rostete danach auch wie blöde
I also bought the first generation in winter 2017. I had owned a 2011 Subaru STI sedan. About a month ago i made a deal with genesis, ditched the type r and got a g70 3.3t AWD. I'm so happy I did it. the type-r is good if you're going to the track a lot it's not a good daily driver. The seats are uncomfortable unless you're 120 lb. If you go over a pothole feels like the whole cars going to explode. And it sucks in the snow if you happen to live in a snowy place. I also think it's overpriced and I overpaid for it and I blame myself for that.
I think the Type R seats are the most comfortable seats ive ever experienced in a car, better than WRX STI seats and i'm about 190 pounds, the Type R seat fits me like a glove.
One of the biggest is it’s not RWD and can’t get sideways
The only thing I have heard is the brake squeal. None of the other issues. If I can give one point of advice while tracking the car.... scoot your seat up, you should never be straight armed midway through the corner.
Ja sie fahren ja auch wie ein Knüppel . 4:40 dann tät ich mir auch paar Extraräder zu legen . aber nur deshalb , weil die Originalfelgen aufgrund der Serienbereifung sehr empfindlich sind und ein jeder noch so niedrige Bordstein seine Spuren hinterlässt . die Serienbereifung klebt fantastisch auf die Straße . Das darf man dann auch mal laut und deutlich betonen .
Still here, R18420 :)
ive subscribed
Thanks!
Does 2020 type r have transmission issues?
Sounds like the dude just beats the shit out of his transmission when shifting.
@@websurf90 ah okay. I ended up buying the 2020 type r
Some of them do still.have issues, use GM synchromesh FM
@@mybloodtype_r how has it been so far?
@@bobbybooshay5854 so far so great actually (: no issues! Just been making simple cosmetic upgrades to the R
They are nice car but not worth paying over msrp cause once the hype is over you'll lost a shit load of money
Agree, I never pay over MSRP, terrible idea
So to sum there isn’t any real problems, still yet to find any single reason why this car is not the best hot hatch available, style is subjective......
That transmission issue just makes me scared. Same problems in the Si. If you aren't a grandma you will break it
Honda needs to beef up their transmissions
It’s the drilled rotors that’s making the squealing so bad. I think Honda replaced it with a 2 piece non drilled/slotted rotors for 2020 and 2021 for the general public to minimize the squealing issue.
True
That 2nd gear grind is driver error bro. I'm 50,000 miles in and never grinded a gear.
Send video shifting 1st to second at wot redline please ❤