@7:03 the reason why you have a bounty is fairly obvious, you haven't died before this point. The way new bounties work is essentially this: compare your gold income minus the gold you've give away for dying (eg 300 for a solo kill and 450 if you got ganked) compared to the average of income in the game. THIS INCLUDES ENEMY PLAYERS. so while your team is losing, you yourself have given 0 gold away to the enemy team, and at the time of dying have claimed 700gp from enemy champions and at the same time you are 20 CS up on the next highest players in the game. (running the numbers saying at 14 minutes in game time 1 cs is about 20.3 gold) meaning you have an extra 407 gold value over baseline (likely more since baseline is not measured off of 2nd place but the average player.) The shutdown you gave was 226 gold. so according to the calculation you had a a bounty gold value of 226*4+400=1304 gold value ahead of the curve in this game. (you are allowed to be up to 400 gold ahead before a bounty is placed, and every 4 gold from kills and assists and every 20 gold from CS translates into 1 bounty gold thereafter.) We can know exactly when you crossed the 400gp threshold since you picked up first blood at the start of the game. This cause every action you take past then to start putting gold into your bounty. as we saw 1 CS at the time was equal to ~20.3 gold so having 150 cs is 20.3*150/20 = 152.25 gp bounty and then you got a solo kill (300/4=75) bounty gold for a total of exactly 227.25 gold bounty. meaning somewhere i made an assumption (definitely my assumption of CS gold value) that introduced an error of almost exactly 1%. The new bounty system has been one of my favorite things added to the game and running the numbers on it fascinates me, and hopefully this deep dive on the math involved was interesting and informative!
I should also note that in my second paragraph I made a statement that is not entirely true, that Alois was about 1304 gold above the average curve in this game, this is technically a number much too low as I made an assumption that all his extra gold was from champion takedowns, when in reality gold earned from CS is weighted much lower in the formula for shut downs, and so finding the exactly correct number for gold above the game average is typically very hard, since unlike in game 1 where we can know exactly when Alois started accruing a shut down value most of the time it's hard to say when exactly you start breaking even without manually checking your exact shutdown amount on the scoreboard. in summary these mathematical formulas will always tell you your exact shut down value with some caveats: Takedown gold/4 + CS gold/20 - gold given by deaths - 100 = shut down value 1. the minimum shut down value is obviously 0 if this number puts out a negative number then your shut down value is instead 0 IF INSTEAD you are in the "negative state" (IE you have given away too much gold by dying) to borrow language from riot your "negative bounty" (IE the amount of gold subtracted from the normal 30 for killing you) can be found this way: 300 - gold given to enemies/4 + gold from CS/10 + gold gained from champion takedowns/4 + gold collected from shutdowns/4 + 50 = your current kill value the value of an assist on killing you is 50% of this, split to all the assisting allies. 2. This value cannot be a number more than 300 obviously, and I assume if it would create a number more than this you are instead worth 300 gold
@@chrischavez6780 school is a terrible learning environment for most kids but it's just good enough to be acceptable. If 90% of teachers were half as passionate as the lord piggy about teaching then schools would be awesome and yes I finished school and got a degree so I'm not a dropout. So yeah he does learn alot from Alois not just about LoL but life too.
I think some Riven watched your video because she did this exact thing to me lvl 3 at top , basically kicked butt of my jungler , the thing is the overstay in my junglers jungle and he eventually killed her , she lost like 3-4 waves , no tp to go back top , she end up 0/5 because me as Chogath was 2lvl above her and I just keep eating her.
Honestly I may be a PIG and still can't play league after watching your vids but I find watching you play riven very entertaining. When you play other champs it just ain't the same content wise, tho very educational.
Bro i hate gragas, i met a REALLY good one a couple of weeks ago where i was just a sitting duck unable to do anything in his presence and due to that guy i been banning gragas every game since then lol
great video as usual Mr Piggy, appreciate the daily content. Just a quick question though, can tar drop the list of background tracks he's using for videos? They're really well chosen tbbh so I wanna know where he's getting them from. Much love and fundamentals above all hahahaha
How did you manage to watch the entire 40 min. video in only 2 minutes? You placed this comment 15 minutes ago even though the video was released only 17 minutes ago.
@@thevoltexz Yeah, it was good content. I just found it weird you would judge an entire video based on having only watched 5%. But in the end, you were right I guess :)
you did s cancel with that bugged q. you were close enaugh to him to be a close q also with s or maybe it triggered without s maybe cause of cc and many clicks, it happens sometimes if you w + q3 like when you just jump up like a T pose animation
Ay boss, i think its so funny that i started watching you at the beginning of the last year... ...AND YOU'VE BEEN BANNING RENEKTON EVERY GAME LMFAO Love you bro
the double q thing is a random bug that I theorize to be an issue with the new tickrate (afaik they pushed that change not so long ago to live?) the worst fucking thing that you can cast third q and it automatically starts the new one and then you are clueless as to why your Q is on cd shortly after.
One of the things that stuck out to me was Briar simply being a massive Riven counter in every way imaginable. Let's list the factors. 1: Extremely high durability for a Diver, with a better Nasus passive to compensate her being the only champion with no innate health regen. Payphone Jungler had the exact same items, but despite being 2 levels behind, Alois was unable to deal him damage because Bri just resists damage apparently. Also she gets a better Gragas W in the form of her E which is also unstoppable. 2: Briar is different from other Divers, and that is the fact she is a strange hybrid of Diver, Juggernaut (she's tankier than the average Diver for my experience) and Skirmisher (insane mobility and sustained damage), meaning she can crush a Riven E in one basic attack lategame, which just means Riven cannot 1v1 Bri unless the latter is severely behind. 3: Queen of Movement Speed through W just makes it impossible for Riven to play the game when trying to run away from a Briar. I don't know why Bri just jumps over walls by pressing W, I mean her ult already does that, so does her Pantheon stun, and if Ambessa passive is restricted from jumping over walls, why not for Briar W, especially when it doesn't make much sense for a 0 skill champion such as Briar?
Briar W can go over walls because it's not nearly as effective at escaping as Ambessa passive with the frenzy afterwards, and Ambessa passive is much more spammable
Emperor Piggatron my lord, i am here to ask you to do something for me, and every other little piggy. Would you be willing to do a climb from the lowest low of unranked, to the prestige full rank of masters, on Ambessa? It would be heartwarming for us to see you spend even more if your time on us❤
So, the Gragas matchup reminded me of something I really want to know... Since I'm early for once, I'll take the chance We all know Renekton shits on Riven. I've played Renekton against Riven myself and I completely demolished my lane opponent. The thing is, why is that the case? xD Please explain for a lowly silver scrub like myself :p
renekton W with fury bonus completely destroys shields on the first hit, making her e shield worthless, can stick on her relatively easily with funny e e combo, and has healing build into his kit with q. Basically the only way for riven to ever win is if renekton is bad at managing his abilities/fury and she able to play around his cooldowns.
@7:03 the reason why you have a bounty is fairly obvious, you haven't died before this point. The way new bounties work is essentially this: compare your gold income minus the gold you've give away for dying (eg 300 for a solo kill and 450 if you got ganked) compared to the average of income in the game. THIS INCLUDES ENEMY PLAYERS. so while your team is losing, you yourself have given 0 gold away to the enemy team, and at the time of dying have claimed 700gp from enemy champions and at the same time you are 20 CS up on the next highest players in the game. (running the numbers saying at 14 minutes in game time 1 cs is about 20.3 gold) meaning you have an extra 407 gold value over baseline (likely more since baseline is not measured off of 2nd place but the average player.)
The shutdown you gave was 226 gold. so according to the calculation you had a a bounty gold value of 226*4+400=1304 gold value ahead of the curve in this game. (you are allowed to be up to 400 gold ahead before a bounty is placed, and every 4 gold from kills and assists and every 20 gold from CS translates into 1 bounty gold thereafter.)
We can know exactly when you crossed the 400gp threshold since you picked up first blood at the start of the game. This cause every action you take past then to start putting gold into your bounty. as we saw 1 CS at the time was equal to ~20.3 gold so having 150 cs is 20.3*150/20 = 152.25 gp bounty and then you got a solo kill (300/4=75) bounty gold for a total of exactly 227.25 gold bounty. meaning somewhere i made an assumption (definitely my assumption of CS gold value) that introduced an error of almost exactly 1%.
The new bounty system has been one of my favorite things added to the game and running the numbers on it fascinates me, and hopefully this deep dive on the math involved was interesting and informative!
GOAT comment, never understood this
this comment should get pinned :D
Fr best comment
I should also note that in my second paragraph I made a statement that is not entirely true, that Alois was about 1304 gold above the average curve in this game, this is technically a number much too low as I made an assumption that all his extra gold was from champion takedowns, when in reality gold earned from CS is weighted much lower in the formula for shut downs, and so finding the exactly correct number for gold above the game average is typically very hard, since unlike in game 1 where we can know exactly when Alois started accruing a shut down value most of the time it's hard to say when exactly you start breaking even without manually checking your exact shutdown amount on the scoreboard.
in summary these mathematical formulas will always tell you your exact shut down value with some caveats:
Takedown gold/4 + CS gold/20 - gold given by deaths - 100 = shut down value
1. the minimum shut down value is obviously 0 if this number puts out a negative number then your shut down value is instead 0
IF INSTEAD you are in the "negative state" (IE you have given away too much gold by dying) to borrow language from riot your "negative bounty" (IE the amount of gold subtracted from the normal 30 for killing you) can be found this way:
300 - gold given to enemies/4 + gold from CS/10 + gold gained from champion takedowns/4 + gold collected from shutdowns/4 + 50 = your current kill value
the value of an assist on killing you is 50% of this, split to all the assisting allies.
2. This value cannot be a number more than 300 obviously, and I assume if it would create a number more than this you are instead worth 300 gold
"Fairly obvious" followed by 4 paragraphs of explanations.. my goat..
Me and my son watch the fundamentals every morning before school. Learns more from you than any of his teachers 😂
Sadly I believe this
❤
I love this
Nothing really to be proud about unless he's the next faker😂😂😂
@@chrischavez6780 school is a terrible learning environment for most kids but it's just good enough to be acceptable. If 90% of teachers were half as passionate as the lord piggy about teaching then schools would be awesome and yes I finished school and got a degree so I'm not a dropout. So yeah he does learn alot from Alois not just about LoL but life too.
6:10 that made me laugh pretty hard, good stuff and Editor
Commander piggytron's a yapper today huh
As a plat player i played mundo and my enemy top said gj alois i never felt more proud of myself
27:00 Man i feel like Alois was in physical pain after that game. Those screams come from the soul.
Tbf the instant mikaels is pretty easy when ashe screams "ENGAGE" as she shoots the arrow xd
NGL I don't even play league I just watch these while I eat. I've got bacon egg and cheese croissants today.
10/10 would recommend. Simple and tasty. Though I put ghost pepper ketchup on mine because I'm a pig.
@@Luunyby terrifying combo but that sounds tasty
that sounds awesome. thanks for sharing! :)
I think some Riven watched your video because she did this exact thing to me lvl 3 at top , basically kicked butt of my jungler , the thing is the overstay in my junglers jungle and he eventually killed her , she lost like 3-4 waves , no tp to go back top , she end up 0/5 because me as Chogath was 2lvl above her and I just keep eating her.
some tips for illaoi:
-hit e
-hit e
-hit e
-hit e
youre welcome
you forgot do not miss e
Ah shi you can't forget, hit e, important to win
Some tips playing against Illaoi:
-Dodge e
-Remember to dodge e
-Move away from e
-Don't get hit by e
-Kill the scary tentacle lady
:D
-hit e
-hit ult
-heal half hp and get a triple
Honestly I may be a PIG and still can't play league after watching your vids but I find watching you play riven very entertaining. When you play other champs it just ain't the same content wise, tho very educational.
I always jam so hard when i hear the inazuma eleven instrumental 🤣🤣🤣
Good times thanks Tar
Is that Crash Bash music at 5:40?
Yes hahah
ur gameplay is so clean espc. the olaf game
Bro i hate gragas, i met a REALLY good one a couple of weeks ago where i was just a sitting duck unable to do anything in his presence and due to that guy i been banning gragas every game since then lol
great video as usual Mr Piggy, appreciate the daily content. Just a quick question though, can tar drop the list of background tracks he's using for videos? They're really well chosen tbbh so I wanna know where he's getting them from. Much love and fundamentals above all hahahaha
Good content as always, thanks for the continuous support on us rookies!
How did you manage to watch the entire 40 min. video in only 2 minutes? You placed this comment 15 minutes ago even though the video was released only 17 minutes ago.
@glp.1337 I actually did as soon as I clicked the video lol. I do mean my words tho
@@thevoltexz Yeah, it was good content. I just found it weird you would judge an entire video based on having only watched 5%. But in the end, you were right I guess :)
4:06 Ratatouille reading meme looking fight
4:06 the top lane experience
Zamn most early I've ever been, and I don't regret it. Keep up the good work, bro
how do you tip the thumbnail editor
editor knows us too much with that cannon zoom in
You should try boots of swiftness in this matchup
The Crash Bash music!? Fireee
Good to know that even high elo players are forgetting they have zhonyas until after fight is ended.
you did s cancel with that bugged q. you were close enaugh to him to be a close q also with s or maybe it triggered without s maybe cause of cc and many clicks, it happens sometimes if you w + q3 like when you just jump up like a T pose animation
Going to review if you were on a ward and then not saying a word. I respect it
what is that music at 5:20
i could swear its from crash bandicoot but i cant find it anywhere :(
It is
i remember u saying "I will only go flash ignite into this champ" with frustration a while ago. to win lane instead of playing safe a
Ay boss, i think its so funny that i started watching you at the beginning of the last year...
...AND YOU'VE BEEN BANNING RENEKTON EVERY GAME LMFAO
Love you bro
4:10 average top lane experience👹
the vision bug at 36:45 that shows you Cait doing red before the kill is so disgusting. Small indie company things only
They have vision on Caitlyn, look at the mini map
Ah in that case… ad carry role
6:11 you got me. WP STREAMER
36:00 song?
Blood Drain again (Eltnum theme)
on spotify. Is from a fighting game called Under night in-birth
@@siepvanzutphen2743 thank you my handsome prince
the double q thing is a random bug that I theorize to be an issue with the new tickrate (afaik they pushed that change not so long ago to live?) the worst fucking thing that you can cast third q and it automatically starts the new one and then you are clueless as to why your Q is on cd shortly after.
I always lock in k’sante into riven match ups cause I know when riven q1 they always like to w q2 e out. All I need to do is press one button 😊
I dont play lol pc but i play lol wildrift but your mentos are applicable too damn, and when you really use blackC its tho
Very excited for Illaoi
also excited for you to play her :^)
would love illaoi to master !!!! :)
@2:38 you just pressed s while using riven q on enemy champion. This makes her have no animation. S cancels...
that thumbnail is so cursed
Pantheon content when?
he's playing Dawnbringer again ^_^
Ww top, ls says is lowkey broken
31:58 pigamentos
The thumbnail is cursed
Wtf is that 8 ping are u living next to the servers bro😭
since i got the course i swear i'm missing more cannons
did i get scammed guys?
Focusing on the fundamentals instead od cannons, play more and it'll comeback
are you a world of warcraft raid boss?
where adc unranked to masters
MOOOORRRRRRRRREEEEE RIIIIVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN
ww to masters when?
How does bro have 8ms of ping 😭😭
One of the things that stuck out to me was Briar simply being a massive Riven counter in every way imaginable. Let's list the factors.
1: Extremely high durability for a Diver, with a better Nasus passive to compensate her being the only champion with no innate health regen. Payphone Jungler had the exact same items, but despite being 2 levels behind, Alois was unable to deal him damage because Bri just resists damage apparently. Also she gets a better Gragas W in the form of her E which is also unstoppable.
2: Briar is different from other Divers, and that is the fact she is a strange hybrid of Diver, Juggernaut (she's tankier than the average Diver for my experience) and Skirmisher (insane mobility and sustained damage), meaning she can crush a Riven E in one basic attack lategame, which just means Riven cannot 1v1 Bri unless the latter is severely behind.
3: Queen of Movement Speed through W just makes it impossible for Riven to play the game when trying to run away from a Briar. I don't know why Bri just jumps over walls by pressing W, I mean her ult already does that, so does her Pantheon stun, and if Ambessa passive is restricted from jumping over walls, why not for Briar W, especially when it doesn't make much sense for a 0 skill champion such as Briar?
Briar W can go over walls because it's not nearly as effective at escaping as Ambessa passive with the frenzy afterwards, and Ambessa passive is much more spammable
nice bro
Emperor Piggatron my lord, i am here to ask you to do something for me, and every other little piggy. Would you be willing to do a climb from the lowest low of unranked, to the prestige full rank of masters, on Ambessa? It would be heartwarming for us to see you spend even more if your time on us❤
So, the Gragas matchup reminded me of something I really want to know... Since I'm early for once, I'll take the chance
We all know Renekton shits on Riven. I've played Renekton against Riven myself and I completely demolished my lane opponent. The thing is, why is that the case? xD Please explain for a lowly silver scrub like myself :p
renekton W with fury bonus completely destroys shields on the first hit, making her e shield worthless, can stick on her relatively easily with funny e e combo, and has healing build into his kit with q. Basically the only way for riven to ever win is if renekton is bad at managing his abilities/fury and she able to play around his cooldowns.
where is the ADC CLIMB PIGGY!!!!!????
oink oink
RIVEN IS PROBLEMATIC. Fixed the title for you Mr. Fanta.
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i am the fourth
please turn down champion moaning its so loud compared to the rest of the audio its legit unwatchable, and i love your content
Illaoi?! Unsubbed. People who play this champ must have had some disturbing childhood