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I agree with you about the slipper clutch holding the power fine. I have set mine up with CBR cams, airbox mods and a tune, and after 12,000km even with rally racing abuse at 9,000-10,000 revs all day... it still works fine.
Jake, the 300 uses a 38mm throttle body, a crf250rx uses a 44mm. The new KTM 125 2 stroke has a bigger throttle body than the crf300l. At some point your gonna have to address the choke point.
Should’ve looked into the swapped grom community, people will throw cbr 300 motors into groms and the craziest ones have even developed kits that bump it up to a 349cc pushing 40+ hp
Excited for this series. Maybe this is a niche you could master. Boring bikes made much faster. Love you jake, i have been around since the video when you first got a fan 😂 Drz build next 😎
I been building race engines for dirtbikes since 2000. I've rebuilt engines after every race, so you can't tell me that big bore kits and mods don't take life off the engine. It will run hotter
Am looking forward on the coming up videos for the new mods, I also have the black widow exhaust on my 300l and yes it was kind a loud, my first and least expensive solution was to put a silent kit from the wings exhaust that they make for the KTM 690 Enduro and that made it quieter so for now am happy with it.
Interesting about the piston bore. The klx has had big bore kits going all the way to 351 for years that have a good reliability record if I'm not mistaken. I'm guessing maybe the piston is somewhat taller? That would make it harder for the piston slap to occur.
Watching this one closely. How cool would a mini rally tower look on that bike? Adv Men Cave has a cool setup that a buncha Euro guys install on the 300L. Keep it up, dude.
People always bring up reliability. Compared to the 70’s, reliability is not much of an issue. Electronics, building tolerances, limp modes, over rev protection, etc., make all vehicles reliable
Horsepower from the factory obviously more reliable. If it was designed from the factory with turbos is one thing vs you bolting on a turbo and doubling the horsepower.
Oversquare vs undersquare balance. Rpm x torque = horsepower although there is a number above to compensate /constant. More internal internal inertia. Once reason Ferrari/Lambo like multi small piston/small liter engines, ie V12’s.
Nikasil bore that will keep the reliability up. If you change the factory Nikasil bore to a steel sleeve/liner then you will most definitely lower the reliability. Another plus is Nikasil bores have very low friction compared to a steel sleeve. You can also get a steel sleeve bore nikasil lined. Love the build and where it going! EDIT: NO WAY I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT HAS A FACTORY STEEL BORE!?!?!? Hey if you plate the steel bore then you would increase reliability over stock.
I've seen three race seasons and 10,000+ street miles with no issues on the stock steel bore and my 78mm piston. Nikasil is nice, but not necessary. Kinda like getting your trans IMP treated...
Newer more complex bikes as well as cars VVT which offers mult cam profiles but adds more complexity. Because of emissions bikes following cars with VVT and maybe more forced induction in the future. Also the 2030-35 ban on new petrol vehicles will come into play. Love your videos with great explanations.
I just repainted my frames of my motocross bikes every year. Powder coating is a hassle for me and not much a benefit in my opinion. Spray can paints are just fine for a frame especially a dirt bike. I live in Hawaii. The salt loves powder coating just as much as not powder coating. Ships just repaint as needed
Can't wait to see how this experiment plays out. Will it fix the power issue? Will it effect the performance or will it create other unforeseen problems? Tune in and find out to these and the other unknown questions. With Jake The GardenSnake. Just kidding sir. This was another great video.
What’s the compression ratio of the new piston? I’m asking because you may actually notice a small decrease in power throughput some Of the rev range. The forged piston usually weighs a few ounces more than the cast piston. Which take much more umph to spool up too high rpm, however your also INCREASING reliability. Higher compression will Not effect reliability nor will your valves being open longer duration from new cams either. You may want to check your valve lash every 30hrs for the first 60hrs but after that you can go back to regular maintenance as usual
What rattle can paint do u use to touch up the frame. I have a few spots worn to bare metal myself. What ever paint is on the frame there clearly wasn’t enough
Would balancing and blueprinting a single cylinder motor do anything? I'll have to research that. Turns out you can't "balance" a single cylinder motor, it needs at least 2 cylinders. Blueprinting is just making sure the specs are as dead on as possible.
Engines dont blow up, look at the components which will be exposed to the greater force produced. Connecting rods big ends take alot of the force, try to find a forged piston. New rod bearings, can you find a forged crank? Don't rev it until the engine has warmed up to prevent piston slap.
Japanese engines are overbuilt with longevity in mind. That is why their car engines car make ridiculous horsepower and still Stay together. Some manufacturers build obsolescence into their products. If you make your products too dependable no repeat customers and bankruptcy.
This bike went from a "Cheap do it all bike" to an "extremely overpriced drz400." I truly believe, if you have to do this many mods to a bike, you should start off with a better bike lol.
it's possible people are having slipping issues because they treat their clutch like crap and burn up the plates. but you can't go accusing people of that regardless of whether it's true because then they're not a man any more and you're an arshole for even suggesting it. but i guarantee you, most people are never taught how to use them without abusing them.
At this point I really don't see a reason anymore why you don't use a 450 RL haha. At this point it would be cheaper, easier and better, while being about as reliable. People discredit the reliability of the 450 RL, but it is actually extremely reliable. It's detuned to 43 hp and has a three-ring-piston in a motor that was designed for about 150% of that power. It's basically indistructible. On top of that, the 450 has waaaaay better suspension AND is lighter. I still enjoy your projects, and you also do it for the learning, but I think it is a bit of wasted energy.
@@TheGardenSnake I haven't watched that video before, but I just did right now. Here is the thing: You're comparing the 450 RL to EXCs and Betas, but fact is, it is not comparable to those bikes. Those are hard enduro bikes with two-ring-pistons and almost 50% more power than the Honda. And even those bikes have oil change intervalls of 30 hours. If you ride them on the street, that would equate to about 1000 miles. And even with those bikes you can massively extend the oil changes. I regularily do 60 hours on my Beta. I have a friend that does oil changes about every 150 hours on his EXC and it just keeps going. He is way past 2000 hours and only just now needs a rebuild. As a matter of fact, manufacturers put conservative numbers into the manual because they don't want to be responsible if anything happens. And I'm not pulling that out my ass. My university professor is the guy that designed the Aprilia RSV Mille engine in his time at Rotax. And I regularily talk to him about motorcycle engines. (Great example of conservative numbers is Honda specifying to change the chain every 15 hours in race settings, that's about the time I ride between adjusting my chain tension... in race settings lol). There are many people that have done way over 20.000 miles on the RL without even adjusting the valves, because they are still in spec, yet Honda says that you need a full top end rebuild after 20.000 miles, complete with new valves and everything. Honda also says to replace the fuel filter every 1800 miles... I think I know nobody who has ever replaced their fuel filter... ever, and yet their bikes keep running. I understand that you like modifying your bike and like you said in your other video, you would have likely spent the same amount of money on the RL if you had one. But you wouldn't need to do the complicated power mods. Like I said before: I still enjoy your projects, I like what you're doing, I too am learning some new stuff through them. This is all just my opinion... meaning: I would have done it differently for the reasons stated above. I even considered riding around the world on a RL once, but they are hard to get here in europe these days, so I'm looking for something different.
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Can't wait to see them power gains 👌
I agree with you about the slipper clutch holding the power fine. I have set mine up with CBR cams, airbox mods and a tune, and after 12,000km even with rally racing abuse at 9,000-10,000 revs all day... it still works fine.
I have same as Shonkey minus cams and zero clutch issues
Jake, the 300 uses a 38mm throttle body, a crf250rx uses a 44mm. The new KTM 125 2 stroke has a bigger throttle body than the crf300l. At some point your gonna have to address the choke point.
The 450x has a 46mm
Every time you start a new build/rebuild/project I get all sorts of stoked. Looking forward to this series!
I enjoy all of your videos, thank you for taking the time to make them!
Should’ve looked into the swapped grom community, people will throw cbr 300 motors into groms and the craziest ones have even developed kits that bump it up to a 349cc pushing 40+ hp
Usually i hate whem youtubers do sponsors during their videos but you deserve the money because i know it will go towards more vids
Excited for this series. Maybe this is a niche you could master. Boring bikes made much faster. Love you jake, i have been around since the video when you first got a fan 😂 Drz build next 😎
I been building race engines for dirtbikes since 2000. I've rebuilt engines after every race, so you can't tell me that big bore kits and mods don't take life off the engine. It will run hotter
Am looking forward on the coming up videos for the new mods, I also have the black widow exhaust on my 300l and yes it was kind a loud, my first and least expensive solution was to put a silent kit from the wings exhaust that they make for the KTM 690 Enduro and that made it quieter so for now am happy with it.
That Yoshi header is way bigger. It would be awesome to see all three headers side by side. Stock, Black widow, Yoshi
I was just talking to somebody if they were going to make a big bore kit for this for this bike literally minutes ago
I learnef a bit about the slipper clutch today. Thank you.
Love the Yoshimura sound. Probably my favorite bike exhausts for single cylinders at least.
The look pretty good too IMO.
I’m gonna wait a year for all the Guinea pigs to verify it’s reliable and refined. Nice video tho very informative.
Interesting about the piston bore. The klx has had big bore kits going all the way to 351 for years that have a good reliability record if I'm not mistaken. I'm guessing maybe the piston is somewhat taller? That would make it harder for the piston slap to occur.
OHHH I CALLED IT!!! I knew a big bore kit was coming!!
Just wait, their might even be a really small spinnyboi in the future
Watching this one closely. How cool would a mini rally tower look on that bike? Adv Men Cave has a cool setup that a buncha Euro guys install on the 300L. Keep it up, dude.
Jake, what's the total cost of all your engine mods versus doing a CBR500 engine swap as some have done over on advrider?
I was going to get a rally and do a big bore kit...I am liking the 301 kit. .piston should be close in weight to the stock one to minimize vibration.
Been loving thie series mate, finally got myself another drz, this time an E model, just need to rebuild the carb... wish me luck
Wasn’t expecting Ari Henning, what a surprise!
People always bring up reliability. Compared to the 70’s, reliability is not much of an issue. Electronics, building tolerances, limp modes, over rev protection, etc., make all vehicles reliable
Horsepower from the factory obviously more reliable. If it was designed from the factory with turbos is one thing vs you bolting on a turbo and doubling the horsepower.
I wished you put the Bill blue 305 kit on it, that would be even more power 😉
Oversquare vs undersquare balance. Rpm x torque = horsepower although there is a number above to compensate /constant. More internal internal inertia. Once reason Ferrari/Lambo like multi small piston/small liter engines, ie V12’s.
Nikasil bore that will keep the reliability up. If you change the factory Nikasil bore to a steel sleeve/liner then you will most definitely lower the reliability. Another plus is Nikasil bores have very low friction compared to a steel sleeve. You can also get a steel sleeve bore nikasil lined. Love the build and where it going!
EDIT: NO WAY I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT HAS A FACTORY STEEL BORE!?!?!? Hey if you plate the steel bore then you would increase reliability over stock.
I've seen three race seasons and 10,000+ street miles with no issues on the stock steel bore and my 78mm piston. Nikasil is nice, but not necessary. Kinda like getting your trans IMP treated...
who makes the piston? and where can I get the piston and big bore head gasket? @@AriH211
Maybe 550 Performance would work with you on the programming?
Wow, the first time in a long time I've received a new video notification from you despite having the bell icon clicked. TH-cam no like garden Snek
Newer more complex bikes as well as cars VVT which offers mult cam profiles but adds more complexity. Because of emissions bikes following cars with VVT and maybe more forced induction in the future. Also the 2030-35 ban on new petrol vehicles will come into play. Love your videos with great explanations.
The added compression is gonna change the sound wayyy more than changing exhausts
im going to take my airbox out and just run a pod filter 🤗
"YEEH"... Bring it ooooooon baby 👌
Love it! Great video as usual! Great music!
I'd be curious to see how a 250L or Rally would respond to these mods and how far off it could come power wise.
Love it! Great video as usual!
I just repainted my frames of my motocross bikes every year. Powder coating is a hassle for me and not much a benefit in my opinion. Spray can paints are just fine for a frame especially a dirt bike. I live in Hawaii. The salt loves powder coating just as much as not powder coating. Ships just repaint as needed
Josh coming in clutch with the discord ad. 😂
nice work dude!
Likin this! I do like a build series!!
Mo powah baby!
So, it is a really expensive DRZ400 now?!?
Can't wait to see how this experiment plays out. Will it fix the power issue? Will it effect the performance or will it create other unforeseen problems? Tune in and find out to these and the other unknown questions. With Jake The GardenSnake.
Just kidding sir. This was another great video.
What’s the compression ratio of the new piston? I’m asking because you may actually notice a small decrease in power throughput some
Of the rev range. The forged piston usually weighs a few ounces more than the cast piston. Which take much more umph to spool up too high rpm, however your also INCREASING reliability. Higher compression will
Not effect reliability nor will your valves being open longer duration from new cams either. You may want to check your valve lash every 30hrs for the first 60hrs but after that you can go back to regular maintenance as usual
What rattle can paint do u use to touch up the frame. I have a few spots worn to bare metal myself. What ever paint is on the frame there clearly wasn’t enough
If you put the head on backwards and add the '23 graphics you'd have a Bajaj Rally Raid ...
Ari Henning has spoken. It'll be fine haha!
I love Jake
Did that dyno sheet really say 24hp? 😳 That can't be right. My big bore CRF230f put down 27.5 on the dyno.
16:59 same Jake same
😆
I bet that if you put some of those face creams in the engine oil, you'll gain 5hp more... easily.
for engagement 👍
have the guys from vegas remote tune it online
love the .............. o a 125cc or 300
The garden worm at it again...
Following!!!!👊🏾😎
They probably run the worn oil in it an made the clutch slip
Would balancing and blueprinting a single cylinder motor do anything? I'll have to research that. Turns out you can't "balance" a single cylinder motor, it needs at least 2 cylinders. Blueprinting is just making sure the specs are as dead on as possible.
15 more cc's OK
Does this make a difference? Since 250 and 300 has the same bore
I got your TH-cam recommendations!!!!!
Just buy the bigger bore 450 in the first place.
sounded like a drz went by lol
So I’m thinking about big boring my 450x to a 480 a lot of people tell me it will blow up
Engines dont blow up, look at the components which will be exposed to the greater force produced. Connecting rods big ends take alot of the force, try to find a forged piston. New rod bearings, can you find a forged crank? Don't rev it until the engine has warmed up to prevent piston slap.
What’s your opinion on the 550 performance big bore kit?
Looks like the same thing I’m doing. Not sure if they just copied Ari or are working with him. They reference him and the kits development.
Was literally talking about boring mine out to my buddy 2 days ago
Its going to actually be a 300 now! I'm looking forward to seeing how this goes! Its got a steel sleeve? Not Nicasil? Go home honda, you're drunk!
On a budget bike that easily lasts 100,000km+ without any kind of maintenance aside from oil and filters. Not needed.
Buy a Stark Varg 80 horsepower 200 pound electric dirt bike
Imagine
Moar boar?
Japanese engines are overbuilt with longevity in mind. That is why their car engines car make ridiculous horsepower and still
Stay together. Some manufacturers build obsolescence into their products. If you make your products too dependable no repeat customers and bankruptcy.
What’s all this going to cost me?
WHY!?
Fun?¡
@@TheGardenSnake I guess if you have a ton of money to waste, and a lot of spare time. Why not just buy the 450?
Yeah let's just bore it out to 1000cc
how about some time stamps so i can skip the ads my guy. im here for a bike not a skin care routine lolol
please turbocharge this
We’ll I big bored my 22450x stage 2 cam ported head full fmf now that’s a big to waste money on not this
… yes… yes 🫤
@@TheGardenSnake how much hp did it make
This bike went from a "Cheap do it all bike" to an "extremely overpriced drz400." I truly believe, if you have to do this many mods to a bike, you should start off with a better bike lol.
Want to sell me your CBR camshafts ?
it's possible people are having slipping issues because they treat their clutch like crap and burn up the plates.
but you can't go accusing people of that regardless of whether it's true because then they're not a man any more and you're an arshole for even suggesting it.
but i guarantee you, most people are never taught how to use them without abusing them.
At this point I really don't see a reason anymore why you don't use a 450 RL haha. At this point it would be cheaper, easier and better, while being about as reliable. People discredit the reliability of the 450 RL, but it is actually extremely reliable. It's detuned to 43 hp and has a three-ring-piston in a motor that was designed for about 150% of that power. It's basically indistructible. On top of that, the 450 has waaaaay better suspension AND is lighter.
I still enjoy your projects, and you also do it for the learning, but I think it is a bit of wasted energy.
"cheaper, easier and better, while being about as reliable" not really. Did you watch my video about the mods I recently did?
The 450 has a 16k mile rebuild interval or something close. Way more than I thought
@@TheGardenSnake I haven't watched that video before, but I just did right now. Here is the thing: You're comparing the 450 RL to EXCs and Betas, but fact is, it is not comparable to those bikes. Those are hard enduro bikes with two-ring-pistons and almost 50% more power than the Honda. And even those bikes have oil change intervalls of 30 hours. If you ride them on the street, that would equate to about 1000 miles. And even with those bikes you can massively extend the oil changes. I regularily do 60 hours on my Beta. I have a friend that does oil changes about every 150 hours on his EXC and it just keeps going. He is way past 2000 hours and only just now needs a rebuild. As a matter of fact, manufacturers put conservative numbers into the manual because they don't want to be responsible if anything happens. And I'm not pulling that out my ass. My university professor is the guy that designed the Aprilia RSV Mille engine in his time at Rotax. And I regularily talk to him about motorcycle engines. (Great example of conservative numbers is Honda specifying to change the chain every 15 hours in race settings, that's about the time I ride between adjusting my chain tension... in race settings lol). There are many people that have done way over 20.000 miles on the RL without even adjusting the valves, because they are still in spec, yet Honda says that you need a full top end rebuild after 20.000 miles, complete with new valves and everything. Honda also says to replace the fuel filter every 1800 miles... I think I know nobody who has ever replaced their fuel filter... ever, and yet their bikes keep running.
I understand that you like modifying your bike and like you said in your other video, you would have likely spent the same amount of money on the RL if you had one. But you wouldn't need to do the complicated power mods.
Like I said before: I still enjoy your projects, I like what you're doing, I too am learning some new stuff through them. This is all just my opinion... meaning: I would have done it differently for the reasons stated above. I even considered riding around the world on a RL once, but they are hard to get here in europe these days, so I'm looking for something different.
@@Blockbuster2033 theres a reason every mx bike comes with a 15 hour recommended piston change. Does anyone do it? Hell no lol
Please no close ups of your face, creams still trying to do their job, ha ha.
Its done a fine job! He doesn't look a day over 50!
All dat$ shuda just bought the 450rl