Jinjer is their own genre. They are one of the most technically sound band that mixes the amazing vocals from Tatiana which is why everyone loves them. Eugene Roman and Vlad are an amazing triplet
Agreed. Nice breakdown. It's definitely a grower & it can take a while to get in to the groove of Jinjer as they have such unusual timing patterns & offbeats etc. They seem to be getting progressively more..... progressive.
Jinjer is Jazz meets metal. The picking bass and complex rhythmic patterns remind me of improvised Jazz. The drumming style is Jazz, with the complex stick work, so is Tatiana's voice. This ban is unique and so accomplished. The best music takes a few listen's to get into it.
To help with finding that rhythm to headbang along to, you have to find the pattern underneath the literal notes being played. Thats the time signature of the song or part of the song, that way you're not trying to headbang to every drum note or guitar/bass note, but instead are grooving along to the steady pattern underneath those notes. Think of it like walking a straight line, but sometimes you walk out to the right and then back to center line, then out left, then back to center, amd so on. Thats what bands like this are doing, you headbang and follow the straight center line, but then fill in the sounds and make them more interesting by adding those notes played around that center line. Also a lot of the time you can find the rhythm to headbang along by following the lead hand pattern the drummer plays. In a right handed player that would be whatever patyern their right hand is playing (generally thats a steady cymbal pattern of some kind). Listen for that, amd it'll be easier to find what to headbang to and what feel of the song is in general. The more complex the music, the more difficult this becomes though, and eventually its a matter of appreciation for the skill rather than moving your body along to it.
Great reaction to the new JINJER song and video for On The Top and wow does Tatiana look stunning in the video great singing from her and the guys killed the instruments.
Ever since my earliest music classes in elementary(primary) school I've always counted beats in my head. Be it 4/4, 3/4, 9/8... whatever. I find that and keep with it in my head. This makes headbanging quite easy, even if the melody is playing off beat. Headbang with the time signature, and strengthen those neck muscles!
Dude same feelings here, My comment copied from another reaction video “I don’t know how to word this, but it’s most level riff, non bi-polar song I’ve heard from jinjer.. meaning it sounds like jinjer but there’s no soft to brutal tones, it’s a level metal song. I like it because it’s not normal (for jinjer). As you guys proved theres no serious tempo time signature changes and can head bang the whole way 🤘”
Yeah, Jinjer always use time signatures that are not from rock/blues, but rather eastern European folk music, jazz, reggae etc. So naturally it becomes a bit difficult for those that are only used to the straight 2/4 and 4/4 . Also, like most prog, they tend to switch time signatures a few times for each song.
Jinjer is a very unique band, might be the reason I love them so much. As for this song, loved it since the first listen. Judgment and Punishment took me a few listens, but just like all Jinjer it grew on me.
I just usually vibe to something especially if I can identify something to it whether a certain beat or whatever, To me I dont have any issues headbanging to something certain like a nice riff or drum beat or all of the instruments getting together as one. Real interested into the new album when it comes out. Alas, keep up the great work as usual Drew!
With Jinjer, it's not a straight on back and forth headbang. Integrate some lateral movement in there as you feel the groove and it will feel much less awkward. They're absolutely brilliant.
I’m with you there man, it always takes a couple listens of a Jinjer song for me to really get into it (except for Pisces and Teacher, Teacher). Once I’m there though I just get lost in the songs lol. Oh and little side note, I found myself grooving (again after like 2 listens) with the end part, the beat you had compared with falling down the stairs because of its sporadic pattern. Anyways I was grooving along just fine and I went back to check out why and what was making it so easy, it was the cymbals on the drums funny enough. I hadn’t even noticed that’s what I was following but I guess I just picked up on it without thinking after a couple of listens.
The exact same happened to me. The last section was quite hard to follow at the first listen, but at the third listen and now I just naturally know what is happening, and I think it is the best section from the whole song!
I loved parts of this song immediately but didn't get the structure. I had the same disconnect with "Ape" which I now love. Tatiana's clean vocals are so good in this, so much control, emotion and depth. I feel that she's put everything into this one. After four listens, it's really getting into my head. That's about standard for the more progressive tracks Jinjer have produced this year. After another few listens and a good think about the lyrics I will know where it sits in the pantheon; I suspect it may be one of the very best.
Hey Drew, there is nothing more subjective that reacting to music. Every new song has to nestle itself into/between everything that has built up your 'feeling' for music, so thanks for always being curious... but why would you 'honestly not think' that Tati is 32: godesses don't care about such puny human things like age and time ;)
John Osenbaugh Jinjer is my favorite band now cause of the whole concept of their music and live performances, then they took this place from Nightwish that is an amazing band as well, I love Tati and I love Floor, both are amazingly talented vocalist in their own genres of music. But then Floor is just the best singer no matter the genre.. just my opinion.. horns up!
Mayhaps you are processing what I enjoy and catches me the most...the different rhythms keep you off balance and add to the roller coaster of each song...especially when the more atmospheric, jazz gets drop in your ear mid-song...
It’s funny you use the term “heavy groove”, because they’ve been classified as “groove metal”. It’s a thing. This song took me about 3 or four listens to really get, but once I did, the criticisms you offered became the exact reason I love it so much. As for a suggestion, “Swamped” by Lacuna Coil. Maybe “House of Shame”, also by Lacuna Coil.
the time was being kept by the cymbals, while the bass drum and snare are following the bass guitar(which is common in djent style metal), the headbanging should follow the timing of the cymbal
Great observation about the sound, I kind feel the same about bass and drums, cool I not alone in that, and hear the song more, to apreciate it more. Cool Drew
Don't sweat it too much. I've been a metal head for 30 years and I can tell you, a lot of metal heads head bang to the wrong rhythm. For the more basic metal, you can just follow the snare. However, Jinjer's not a basic band, so you have to find the rhythm, which means sometimes you have to listen to it a couple of times. You are doing fine. Keep it up! Cheers from Kentucky, USA!
The Meshuggah vibe in this song is so obvious to me. I also would love them doing that Meshuggah outros with crazy djenty riffs. They did a little in Ape but I want it to be longer, lol.
You should react to Spiritbox. They're another female fronted band but IMO musically more interesting and with a more emotionally powerful delivery. Mara effect pt 1 would be a good song to start.
That's how I felt with Ape and it's my absolute favorite song by them and sits in my top 8 on Spotify, so I would compare this song to Ape in a similar fashion
That is the "norm" for Jinjer - almost everything they do is hard to swallow at first, but dare listen to it again and you'll never stop!! This is the trademark of a true progressive band; they take risks nobody else will, and are talented and clever enough to pull it off. Jinjer has a VERY RARE magic indeed!! The four of them are giants walking the Earth, heart breakers and name takers!!!
The verse and chorus really clicked with me from the start. But the end part I needed to listen to a couple of times before I startet liking it alot more. But the first part is amazing
I think once you get past the odd time signatures and tempo changes you'll enjoy the music more. It usually takes me several listens to Jinger tunes before "I get it". Also I find theatrical videos distracting while performance videos make the listening insightful as to how the instruments are played.
I personally like it only cause of the chorus. I don't headbang to the verses. Too slow for me. I can still appreciate the technicality though. There's a reason Captain Clock is my favourite. If you haven't reacted to it, then please react to the lyric video of the song. It's one of those songs that are great cause of both lyrics and instrumentals and you notice both on the first listen, and the live version is shit anyway. Sounds too muffly.
I headbang to the overall sound of the song and not one particular thing. Usually the lyrics are the tone setter for the tempo of the banging. Try to headbang to the lyrics tempo, see if that feels better for you.
Yeeeee mate this is kinda djent and prog with time signature changes. It's very hard to get into rythm on the first listen. This ones deffinetly for hardcore Jinjer fans.
@@karljonson3287 It's really hard to jam to as a metal song cause the drums are so slow throughout. Their older stuff had parts with faster drums making it easier to jam to. I do admit though: I'll most likely feel differently about this song after the album is out cause then I'll see how it all fits in, kinda like what Drew said, unless the whole album is slow and all prog.
Please don't use the word "spastic". I and many Disabled people of my generation (grew up in the 1970s) had to endure that word being thrown at us regularly by ignorant idiots as children. I didn't expect you to come out with that kind of stuff. It's akin to using the N-word to a black person. That aside, I enjoy your reactions.
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offbeats and transition changes to be exact.
Jinjer is their own genre. They are one of the most technically sound band that mixes the amazing vocals from Tatiana which is why everyone loves them.
Eugene Roman and Vlad are an amazing triplet
Appreciate the UNPREDICTABILITY that is Jinjer.
Agreed. Nice breakdown. It's definitely a grower & it can take a while to get in to the groove of Jinjer as they have such unusual timing patterns & offbeats etc. They seem to be getting progressively more..... progressive.
I hope they do more like Judgement & Punishment. My neck was so sore by the Monday after they released that.
@@j.f.fisher5318 Strangely enough I find this song more a headbanger one than P(&J) - it has that infectious groove from start till end notes.
Jinjer is Jazz meets metal. The picking bass and complex rhythmic patterns remind me of improvised Jazz. The drumming style is Jazz, with the complex stick work, so is Tatiana's voice. This ban is unique and so accomplished. The best music takes a few listen's to get into it.
The challenge is part of the journey. Jinjer is so loved in part because they are challenging without ever sacrificing the style of their music.
Agreed. Some Jinjer songs just grow on you with every listen and you appreciate it more and more.
Jinjer's real strength is their spot on transitions.. Phenomenal talented metal band. Tatiana is a microphone beast.
To help with finding that rhythm to headbang along to, you have to find the pattern underneath the literal notes being played. Thats the time signature of the song or part of the song, that way you're not trying to headbang to every drum note or guitar/bass note, but instead are grooving along to the steady pattern underneath those notes. Think of it like walking a straight line, but sometimes you walk out to the right and then back to center line, then out left, then back to center, amd so on. Thats what bands like this are doing, you headbang and follow the straight center line, but then fill in the sounds and make them more interesting by adding those notes played around that center line.
Also a lot of the time you can find the rhythm to headbang along by following the lead hand pattern the drummer plays. In a right handed player that would be whatever patyern their right hand is playing (generally thats a steady cymbal pattern of some kind). Listen for that, amd it'll be easier to find what to headbang to and what feel of the song is in general. The more complex the music, the more difficult this becomes though, and eventually its a matter of appreciation for the skill rather than moving your body along to it.
Great reaction to the new JINJER song and video for On The Top and wow does Tatiana look stunning in the video great singing from her and the guys killed the instruments.
Ever since my earliest music classes in elementary(primary) school I've always counted beats in my head. Be it 4/4, 3/4, 9/8... whatever. I find that and keep with it in my head. This makes headbanging quite easy, even if the melody is playing off beat. Headbang with the time signature, and strengthen those neck muscles!
Exactly. It's like Bruce Lee said... "Be the hi-hat, my friend. Be the hi-hat." Or somebody said it. Probably. Maybe. :)
Odd (and rotation of) time signatures is a Jinjer staple. Head banging is optional - and not required. 😈
Dude same feelings here, My comment copied from another reaction video “I don’t know how to word this, but it’s most level riff, non bi-polar song I’ve heard from jinjer.. meaning it sounds like jinjer but there’s no soft to brutal tones, it’s a level metal song. I like it because it’s not normal (for jinjer). As you guys proved theres no serious tempo time signature changes and can head bang the whole way 🤘”
Yeah, Jinjer always use time signatures that are not from rock/blues, but rather eastern European folk music, jazz, reggae etc. So naturally it becomes a bit difficult for those that are only used to the straight 2/4 and 4/4 . Also, like most prog, they tend to switch time signatures a few times for each song.
Jinjer is a very unique band, might be the reason I love them so much. As for this song, loved it since the first listen. Judgment and Punishment took me a few listens, but just like all Jinjer it grew on me.
I just usually vibe to something especially if I can identify something to it whether a certain beat or whatever, To me I dont have any issues headbanging to something certain like a nice riff or drum beat or all of the instruments getting together as one. Real interested into the new album when it comes out. Alas, keep up the great work as usual Drew!
I dont find it hard at all to headbang to any Jinjer song :P
Fun reaction - thanks!
Jinjer is unpredictable
I love jinger songs at first listen
With Jinjer, it's not a straight on back and forth headbang. Integrate some lateral movement in there as you feel the groove and it will feel much less awkward. They're absolutely brilliant.
Hallo my friend thanks for the reaction to JinJer!!!!
What can i say for this band i love them@@@@
No more Jinjer?? Its been 5 months but please react to Jinjer's latest and greatest video release "Retrospection".
I’m with you there man, it always takes a couple listens of a Jinjer song for me to really get into it (except for Pisces and Teacher, Teacher). Once I’m there though I just get lost in the songs lol.
Oh and little side note, I found myself grooving (again after like 2 listens) with the end part, the beat you had compared with falling down the stairs because of its sporadic pattern. Anyways I was grooving along just fine and I went back to check out why and what was making it so easy, it was the cymbals on the drums funny enough. I hadn’t even noticed that’s what I was following but I guess I just picked up on it without thinking after a couple of listens.
The exact same happened to me. The last section was quite hard to follow at the first listen, but at the third listen and now I just naturally know what is happening, and I think it is the best section from the whole song!
renatoszfr yeah I definitely look forward to that part of the song on every listen
I loved parts of this song immediately but didn't get the structure. I had the same disconnect with "Ape" which I now love.
Tatiana's clean vocals are so good in this, so much control, emotion and depth. I feel that she's put everything into this one.
After four listens, it's really getting into my head. That's about standard for the more progressive tracks Jinjer have produced this year.
After another few listens and a good think about the lyrics I will know where it sits in the pantheon; I suspect it may be one of the very best.
Hey Drew, there is nothing more subjective that reacting to music. Every new song has to nestle itself into/between everything that has built up your 'feeling' for music, so thanks for always being curious... but why would you 'honestly not think' that Tati is 32: godesses don't care about such puny human things like age and time ;)
Tat is a very close 2nd to Floor when it comes to my favorite vocalist
John Osenbaugh Jinjer is my favorite band now cause of the whole concept of their music and live performances, then they took this place from Nightwish that is an amazing band as well, I love Tati and I love Floor, both are amazingly talented vocalist in their own genres of music. But then Floor is just the best singer no matter the genre.. just my opinion.. horns up!
Mayhaps you are processing what I enjoy and catches me the most...the different rhythms keep you off balance and add to the roller coaster of each song...especially when the more atmospheric, jazz gets drop in your ear mid-song...
Damn, this is funky. I like it!
One does not simply headbang to Jinjer!
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It’s funny you use the term “heavy groove”, because they’ve been classified as “groove metal”. It’s a thing. This song took me about 3 or four listens to really get, but once I did, the criticisms you offered became the exact reason I love it so much. As for a suggestion, “Swamped” by Lacuna Coil. Maybe “House of Shame”, also by Lacuna Coil.
the time was being kept by the cymbals, while the bass drum and snare are following the bass guitar(which is common in djent style metal), the headbanging should follow the timing of the cymbal
Great observation about the sound, I kind feel the same about bass and drums, cool I not alone in that, and hear the song more, to apreciate it more. Cool Drew
the particular mood you were talking about .. is called getting up....
Don't sweat it too much. I've been a metal head for 30 years and I can tell you, a lot of metal heads head bang to the wrong rhythm. For the more basic metal, you can just follow the snare. However, Jinjer's not a basic band, so you have to find the rhythm, which means sometimes you have to listen to it a couple of times. You are doing fine. Keep it up! Cheers from Kentucky, USA!
That "Rythim" you are talkin about would be a form of Djent. And the fathers of Djent are Meshuggah an incredible Swedish metal band
The Meshuggah vibe in this song is so obvious to me. I also would love them doing that Meshuggah outros with crazy djenty riffs. They did a little in Ape but I want it to be longer, lol.
Eugene has said they'd do some nods to bands that influenced them in this album.
Check out the new "infected raid" tune it's called "black gold". It's 🔥 🔥
I liked this song on the first listen but I didn't love it till the 7th so ur good man just listen a few more times
You should react to Spiritbox. They're another female fronted band but IMO musically more interesting and with a more emotionally powerful delivery. Mara effect pt 1 would be a good song to start.
Sometimes following the cymbal keeps that count easier to move to
Thanks for the smart reaction. Now let me react. You living in Ireland look very much like my friend living in Ukraine. All the best to you!
Ye, this one didn't really click for me until like the third listen. I feel like that may become the norm for them as they get more experimental.
That's how I felt with Ape and it's my absolute favorite song by them and sits in my top 8 on Spotify, so I would compare this song to Ape in a similar fashion
That is the "norm" for Jinjer - almost everything they do is hard to swallow at first, but dare listen to it again and you'll never stop!! This is the trademark of a true progressive band; they take risks nobody else will, and are talented and clever enough to pull it off. Jinjer has a VERY RARE magic indeed!! The four of them are giants walking the Earth, heart breakers and name takers!!!
The verse and chorus really clicked with me from the start. But the end part I needed to listen to a couple of times before I startet liking it alot more.
But the first part is amazing
I think once you get past the odd time signatures and tempo changes you'll enjoy the music more. It usually takes me several listens to Jinger tunes before "I get it". Also I find theatrical videos distracting while performance videos make the listening insightful as to how the instruments are played.
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Lol that’s the whole point.
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I personally like it only cause of the chorus. I don't headbang to the verses. Too slow for me. I can still appreciate the technicality though. There's a reason Captain Clock is my favourite. If you haven't reacted to it, then please react to the lyric video of the song. It's one of those songs that are great cause of both lyrics and instrumentals and you notice both on the first listen, and the live version is shit anyway. Sounds too muffly.
The chorus was stuck in my head all day yesterday
Impeding doom =murderer.
I headbang to the overall sound of the song and not one particular thing. Usually the lyrics are the tone setter for the tempo of the banging. Try to headbang to the lyrics tempo, see if that feels better for you.
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The main dude, looks kindda like you Drew, have a good day, saludos desde México!
You have to be in the mood to listen to jinjer? 🤨
Yeeeee mate this is kinda djent and prog with time signature changes. It's very hard to get into rythm on the first listen. This ones deffinetly for hardcore Jinjer fans.
I feel it's the opposite. Much harder for hardcore fans to get into, for me at least.
@@aamiw99 How so? I don't think this song is that different from their earlier stuff, just an upgrade.
@@karljonson3287 It's really hard to jam to as a metal song cause the drums are so slow throughout. Their older stuff had parts with faster drums making it easier to jam to. I do admit though: I'll most likely feel differently about this song after the album is out cause then I'll see how it all fits in, kinda like what Drew said, unless the whole album is slow and all prog.
@@aamiw99 This one seems like they're going full on experimental.
@@karljonson3287 I kinda got an industrial vibe, but that could just be my rivethead side.
For some reason snare sounds a little bit off to me. Stands out too much compared to other instruments.
The dancer was a weird touch.
they had to of been laughing their asses off while making that tho
he can't follow the odd notes, "the triplets" i mean
Please don't use the word "spastic". I and many Disabled people of my generation (grew up in the 1970s) had to endure that word being thrown at us regularly by ignorant idiots as children. I didn't expect you to come out with that kind of stuff. It's akin to using the N-word to a black person. That aside, I enjoy your reactions.
that dude is thirsty as f..