This really helped. Same performance, FPS as before with my 2080ti but now completely stutter free! Love your channel and am so happy you're doing this! ❤️
Thank you for these tips Q8Pilot! I just set these settings and loaded up the sim and OMG!! What a huge difference. I was having pretty significant trouble with stutter and just wrote it off as MSFS short falls but now I have almost zero stutters.
you have no idea how much this has helped me. to the point I'd almost stopped using the sim due to 3 simultaneous pauses throughout flying, Especially takeoff and landing to the point where I was about to give up because tips from forums and the like although very much appreciated had no answer for me. This has fixed all my issues and I thank you greatly. If ever you decide to visit Australia I'd love to shout you a beer! Thanks again so much Daz
well i could not clean all files inside the 2 folders i get a message " the files could not be deleted because they are open on explorer". I m with w11
Tried this on my old PC and it worked great. I'm getting 20-25 FPS stutter free with an I7-4790K processor with a GTX950 GPU. Flew from JFK to Newark Liberty smoothly, very happy I came across your Video. I was about to give up trying to fix the frame stutter. Thanks.
my sim is now a lot smoother with those new settings, even at very high taxing airports, I am now excited to go to way more airports without worrying about shuttering. Thank you!
If you find that some cache files are not deletable, disable shader cache in the Nvidia control panel, restart, and they will become deletable. Then set the shader cache to unlimited, and restart.
Hi Q8. A remark about the anistropic filter setting - you set it 16x in the NCP, and then mention you could/should turn that setting to OFF in the in-game graphics options. But then when you show some demo performance footage, you also show us your ingame settings, and I couldn't help but notice you still had yours set to 16x. I'm assuming that's a mistake/omission?
I'm not Q8, but the answer is clearly "no." There are several other TH-cam videos, and all point out that anisotropic filtering is much more efficient when done by the GPU driver than when performed in the sim. Therefore, in order to take advantage of setting it in the nVidia Control Panel, you must turn it OFF in Flight Simulator. If you leave it on in the sim, especially if set to 16X, you've gained nothing in performance.
Those settings are great. Same fps, but my sim runs way smoother now!I also had the glass cockpit refresh rate set to high, which caused a lot of stutters on my system. Setting it to medium improved it a lot.
I have an ATI card. Yet, some of the tips in this video was very helpful. So, thumbs up for that. Because I don't care what GPU you have, this game has been the most challenging with graphics I've ever experienced! I build my own pc's and thought I was fine. I've NEVER had to buy a GPU that was close to a 1k. This game basically requires a car note payment on a graphics card or something to run it smoothly. Heh And I've been gaming since the Atari days! Still, a video like this can alleviate a lot of issues with just simple setup. And I knew this but just couldn't find the right combo. I've never had to go a file to delete things to get the graphics to perform better. I mean, lot of crazy stuff just to play a sim! Regardless, yours has been the best I've seen (and I've watched a LOT) that gets rid of the jitters! THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!
The ALT F3 key was great my monitor was impossible to set the brightness even when i went into the Nivida settings. For some reason this worked very well.
I tried for years any settings and tutorials that was out there on internet and with no success, I own 3090 and was furious how I can’t fly it smoothly but after this I can confirm this one is the one, thank you very much
You said you use this with your M1 iPad Pro, I have the 12.9 M1 and want to pair this with that so I can cast the iPad onto a 77 inch TV using game pass Microsoft flight simulator …is that possible?
Hi, I watch a lot of your videos and this latest one has really sorted things out for me. I do not use the nvidia filters but everything else has really improved things for me. I never really got bad performance but there was always something niggling in the background as I always fly in VR, in particular when turning the nosewheel the scenery always had that slight lag. These fixes have cured them so I would really like to thank you for posting this latest one up...Thanks Q8 pilot
Thanks for sharing this Q8 and I'm also seeing the same performance increase on my own RTX3070 rig. After following your guide. I also recently found out MSFS2020 was running beyond my PC 16Gb ram, and now I upgraded to a 32GB ram. Plus, I ws running MSFS2020 on a partiitioned 2TB HDD. Now in Jan 23 , you can now get av1TB NVME and SATA SSD for less that £80, I about a SSD and moved MSFS2020 on to it, to also give me a increase in performance and no more micro-stutters. Again, I suggest installing 32GB DDR memory or more to your rig. As well as moving or reinstalling MSFS 2020 on to a SSD, also helps a lot.
i was skeptical because ive never had much luck with improving stutters, but hopeful since it was q8 supplying the knowledge. it really did help quite a bit. i'm running a 3090 and 10850k (my bottleneck) and my stutters have seriously drastically reduced. i can enoy the a310 stutter free finally!
@Q8Pilot right so wouldn't it be beneficial to turn off the cache so you don't build up or create more corrupt cache files? I'm not arguing I'm just logically thinking about this sorry if I come across poorly.
This definitely worked for me! I had to remove SimFX for extra frames but deleting the cache itself gave me at least 15 frames plus reduced stutters at landing. Thanks for the tutorial! Note : I have a Ryzen 7 5800X, RTX 3070, and a 32GB RAM. Had 25fps with massive stutters in PMDG 737 before but now I have 40fps with little stutters.
Wow! I tried this for X-plane 12 and did it improve my frame rate? No. Did it reduce my stutters? Not half!!!!! What a fantastic improvement. Thank you Q8Pilot for a brilliant bit of advice. Love your channel. Please never stop :-)
As mentioned in the video, these tips will not work for everyone. They have worked for many including myself. If it didn't work for you that's fine, but at least I have made an attempt to better your experience. Thanks for watching.
@Q8Pilot the reduction in stutters is great! "Not half" is an expression in English (possibly just in the UK - so a poor choice of words by myself) to say basically a "huge amount". It would seem that these settings don't alter frame rates themselves in x-plane 12 (at least in my case) but instead makes the fluctuation of them far less of an issue making the experience much better. Thanks again!
Love it. Another video claiming to get rid of stutters with very clear and obvious micro stutters and uneven frame timing all over the place. Its baked into msfs, folks. Sure you can get rid of hideous pauses and bad stuttering and poor fps using expensive hardware and some good settings. But the micro stutters when loading in scenery arent going anywhere. In VR they are VERY noticable, and to a trained eye they are all over this 2d video too.
Great video thank you Q8Pilot :) Recent changes to the NVidia installs have changed the location of the shader cache files which your channel viewers might like to know about.
Excellent video - thanks. Every time I apply the game filter, it resets when the sim is re started. Does anyone know how to make the game filter settings persist?
These tips definitely helped me, thanks Q8Pilot! My system 4k, I9 cpu, 64g ram and RTX 4090..all running on SSD's Smooth as butter on ultra with your settings..cheers again.
Q8 Pilot, First and foremost, thank you for helping us with your advice. Results) To answer your most basic question, yes I think the stuttering improved and was almost fluid-though not quite as fluid as yours-to start off at KLAX with the A310. As I landed at Palm Springs Intl., I saw a few more stutters, maybe some artifacts in my medium-grade computer, picked up along the way. However, with issue to other things like lighting, color, etc. the image seemed less sharp & defined, and the color more washed out. While I was trying to follow your instructions as you gave them, I’ll note a few issues I came across, and number them down below: 1) I noticed my FPS at LAX was in the high-20’s, whereas I believe beforehand I was hovering in the high-30’s to low-40’s. 2) DISREGARD... other people asked about files being left over, so I don't need to ask it again. 3) Game Filter Settings (Alt +F3) won’t work. It says “A Supported Game is Required to Use This Feature”. I don’t know. I thought you said that the game had to be turned off before following your steps-which is what I did. I wonder if it wanted me to open the game? Well, either way, I couldn’t do anything you said to do in this section because of this. Again, why do you think it was displaying this message? 4) My NVIDIA “dashboard” (I don’t know what else to call the control panel), only recognizes my MSFS “game”, as “Game of the Year”. It doesn’t say it’s the “40th Anniversary Edition”. Why and is this a problem? It almost seems as though NVIDIA doesn’t recognize the latest version of the game, and I find that to be troublesome. And I say this because I don’t know if it’s actually making the necessary adjustments, if it doesn’t even know if it’s the right game. What are your thoughts on this? 5) My Graphics Settings in the Simulator doesn’t show the line, “NVIDIA DLSS Frame Generation”, like yours did in your tutorial. I run an NVIDIA card, why do you think it won’t display this line on my Graphics Menu? 6) A lot of what you set to ULTRA in your GRAPHICS menu, I set to MEDIUM, only because I don’t think my 2019 mid-grade computer, is as good as yours. Even still though, some of my results were a little on the lack-luster side for me. In conclusion, I appreciate the hard work you did to help the community. I’m just possibly in that small percentage of people, who your suggestions didn’t quite help the way I was hoping they would. But it did help the stuttering for a little bit-at least leaving KLAX. However, as I said earlier, on the Palm Springs arrival, they seemed to increase, and the FPS was actually lower upon completion of your steps. Maybe I’ll reset the GRAPHICS values back to the way I had them and that may help. Thank you again. 😇
@@OCX600RR GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 (3GB) CPU: Intel Core i7-8700 @3.2GHz 6-core Hope this helps explain some things. This was probably medium grade by 2019 standards, and now I'm guessing quite a bit of things surpass it.
Hi Q8 Piltot!! One of the best piece of advice ever! It really changed how my sim performs…. Just a question regarding cache … both Nvidia shade cache and MSFS Rolling cache… which is your recommendation for deleting them? Every once in a while?? After every sim session? Thank you so much!!!
Glad this was helpful. I recommend deleting them every time you experience stuttering. Also good idea to perform this after either an Nvidia driver update or sim update. Happy flying!
My MSFS is installed via Steam. In the NVIDIA Control Panel "Program Settings" I have no listing for Microsoft Flight Simulator unless I uncheck the "Show only programs found on this computer" checkbox then there are a few listed. Do I need to add it or is it using the "Steam" settings?
I tried this out tonight with my RTX2060 Super and used all your settings. I was amazed. All my settings are now on Ultra and the only setting I had to change was Texture Level of Detail from 400 to 300. Frame rate is 30 fps but no stutters. I have just completed an approach and landing in the Citation CJ4 with no slow down or memory issues and using Direct X 12.
May I ask why you are using 300 with a 2060super. Even my 4070 can't handle 300. 200 creates stutter in some places. Worse case scenario you'll max out your vram.
Some files in the DXCache may not be possible to delete because some apps are using them, although I don’t have any game running. FancyZones, Windows Explorer or other apps may use them.
my fps is usually more than fine when looking forward but it regularly drops by 50-60% when panning camera. i’ll try those suggestions. i’m desperately hoping they help!
Thank you for the tips. What software do you use to show the frames per second in the top left corner of the screen? Do you think that the Nvidia 4090 is a huge improvement over its predecessor? Best regards Medaht
It means precompiled shaders from games will never be automatically deleted, if you play many games it will eat up storage over time. It only prevents stutters that happen the first time a game needs to use a shader after loading. Don't set it to unlimited that's very wasteful if you're worried about it increase to 5GB or 10GB.
The thing is, when you went to external view and panned the camera it went much lower FPS, so this isn’t smooth, if you didn’t have such high FPS due to hardware you would notice those as big stutters. So I don’t think those settings have increased smoothness. The FPS drops are still there, but because your baseline FPS is high because of hardware, they are kind of masked.
wooow this actually worked butter smooth thanks man i appreciate it im running rtx 4080 32 gb ram 4000hz ryzen 95900x samsung odyssey 49 inch 4k ultrawide and it actually made my game so smooth thanks !!!!
Hi Q8Pilot. 2 months ago my MSFS was running like butter after I applied and followed your recommendations on the video. After the latest MSFS update my system became all jittery and stuttery again. I rewatched the video and flushed the NVIDIA cache, all the other settings are still active as per your recommendation. Do you have any additional tips that may be necessary to implement to get that buttery flight sim experience once again?
Also many thanks for this video. I think that these settings mainly refer to the GPU performance, right? I am massively "limited by main thread" although I have upgraded to a 7800X3D and a RTX 4080. Even in 1440p I am experiencing these very low FPS and frame times between 20 and 30 ms for my CPU.
Thanks for the tips. Hope you can also explain what each setting does as well as the pros and cons of changing those settings. Nevertheless, great tips.
Great vid, just a question: For the Nvidia Game Filter, I can't get the pourcentages precisely as you have them in the vid, for example it would go from 0% to 11% instantly without the possibility of being under 11%. Any idea for why is that ?
That 737 looks so real flying over L.A... There were some slight stutters happening up close under the left wing but the rest looked great! Someday, a few years from now, hopefully stutters will be a thing of the past and we can fly at 120 fps. We are so close! Maybe the 5 series cards and new CPUs will get there? It would be so great if Intel were to integrate the memory into their chips, like the Apple M1, M2 chips do.
In my opinion it is not that much about graphics card but it is about optimization. It is not acceptable that you develop a game where CPU and GPU are used only 30% meanwhile the RAM is exploding.
DX Cache can't be deleted completely because some files are connected to the Windows Explorer. A message appears saying that this file can therefore not be deleted.
Thank you Q8 for this one! I am in the process of doing what you say. But I'm unable to delete all the files in DXCache and GLCache? The system reports that they are opened and cannot be removed!?
Would be so kind to indicate which nvidia driver version you have installed. I have 4090 but huge problem to use dlss in any version. Pop up panel instrument dramatically affect fps in negative way and monitors start to flash. I’m becoming crazy
@Q8Pilot One other thing, when you set Anisotropic Filtering to 16X in NCP, you said to turn it off in game. However in game, your Anisotropic Filtering was set to 16X. How should it be set?
Qpilot, what zoom ( FOV) are you using? Also have you changed your Initial zoom in camera cfg. I remember the correct setting was 1.0 not the default 0.70. Have u changed any of it? Because we had to in fsx and p3d.
top video , i just make your 5 suggestion and will try tomorrow Which performance software do you utilize inside the video , i dislike those of FS2020 developper, is it settable (can select control check) says thank again to you for your shared out job to simmers community
Why setting Shader Cache in GLOBAL instead under MSFS profile in nVidia Control Panel? Also, do we need to delete the cache every day or only after driver updates?
I have a few things to say 1. Do not use dx12 if you need fps. its experimental and can really impact your fps 2. I wish the title of this video specified for Nvidia drivers only considering i have AMD drivers.
Is it necessary to periodically go back and delete those NVIDIA caches again? Thanks for the video. I have an older machine with a 1080 card but it still helped.
Thank you so much my screen now is liquid smooth what should I do with these 2 current settings in my flight simulator NVIDIA REFLEX LOW LATENCY is on, and AMD FIDELITY FX SHARPENING IS 160 .... I have a RTX asus 3090 high end computer thank you so much again.
Great tips, please can I ask which programme are you using for the FPS counter with the CPU and GPU useage stats on show as well, I would love to have that on my PC to see where the bottlenecks are!
Ok this is the last AMD Video card. Nvidia does way more, and is more controllable. Tried this anisotropic filter. But when set in AMD control panel scenery stays blurry. However you have a mighty system, and run msfs2020 how it should be!
I would STRONGLY advise people to not have "prefer maximum performance on" (especially in global). It doesn;t make a noticable difference but it will significantly add to your electricity bills (as your GPU will be running at full clock speeds all the time).
Note: Nvidia has changed the location of the DXCache to AppData\LocalLow\NVIDIA\PerDriverVersion\DXCache.
Cheers mate, watching this today and was going crazy
bro uses a 13th gen and a 4090 and says 'its buttery smooth'. But thanks for the help anyways. It improved the visual quality for me
Do try out the settings, many have reported better experience.
Even with the highest hardware out there, these settings still help out alot
As someone who has a 4090 and 13900k, it definitely does get stuttery in New York and Tokyo because of CPU bottlenecks
@@Q8Pilot I tried it and it made the performance very much smoother!!! Thank you Captain🤝
Rtx 2070 super here. I find that running with default is the best
This really helped. Same performance, FPS as before with my 2080ti but now completely stutter free! Love your channel and am so happy you're doing this! ❤️
Glad this has worked out well for you. Thank you for sharing your experience and for watching the video.
You lying
Thank you for these tips Q8Pilot! I just set these settings and loaded up the sim and OMG!! What a huge difference. I was having pretty significant trouble with stutter and just wrote it off as MSFS short falls but now I have almost zero stutters.
Glad it helped, thanks for watching and for sharing your experience.
you have no idea how much this has helped me. to the point I'd almost stopped using the sim due to 3 simultaneous pauses throughout flying, Especially takeoff and landing
to the point where I was about to give up because tips from forums and the like although very much appreciated had no answer for me. This has fixed all my issues and I thank you greatly. If ever you decide to visit Australia I'd love to shout you a beer! Thanks again so much Daz
Glad this has helped. Happy flying friend.
Great video. But you also have a 4090 graphic card
Hey Bill, thanks for watching. Please do try this out. I have many confirming that those tips have reduced stutters on many other graphic cards.
@@Q8Pilot I will definitely try it out. I have a 3070
Cant remove all the DXCache files, tells me The actions cant be completed because the file is open in System
@@Q8Pilot true
@@DeltaTristar500 I have a 3070 TI and have an pretty good performance.
well i could not clean all files inside the 2 folders i get a message " the files could not be deleted because they are open on explorer". I m with w11
Tried this on my old PC and it worked great. I'm getting 20-25 FPS stutter free with an I7-4790K processor with a GTX950 GPU. Flew from JFK to Newark Liberty smoothly, very happy I came across your Video. I was about to give up trying to fix the frame stutter. Thanks.
Glad this has helped and thank you for sharing your experience. Happy flying!
my sim is now a lot smoother with those new settings, even at very high taxing airports, I am now excited to go to way more airports without worrying about shuttering. Thank you!
Very glad this has worked well for you. Happy flying!
If you find that some cache files are not deletable, disable shader cache in the Nvidia control panel, restart, and they will become deletable. Then set the shader cache to unlimited, and restart.
@dancingwilderness If I select to inlimited, will it slowly fill my whole C drive?
No
There are some files you cannot delete in the dx folder, what about them.
It's ok, those files are held up by open programs. Just make sure your sim isn't running.
Thanks, Q8.
Hi Q8. A remark about the anistropic filter setting - you set it 16x in the NCP, and then mention you could/should turn that setting to OFF in the in-game graphics options. But then when you show some demo performance footage, you also show us your ingame settings, and I couldn't help but notice you still had yours set to 16x. I'm assuming that's a mistake/omission?
You are correct yes, it is a mistake.
@@Q8Pilot so should you have it turned on in game as well?
I'm not Q8, but the answer is clearly "no." There are several other TH-cam videos, and all point out that anisotropic filtering is much more efficient when done by the GPU driver than when performed in the sim. Therefore, in order to take advantage of setting it in the nVidia Control Panel, you must turn it OFF in Flight Simulator. If you leave it on in the sim, especially if set to 16X, you've gained nothing in performance.
Those settings are great. Same fps, but my sim runs way smoother now!I also had the glass cockpit refresh rate set to high, which caused a lot of stutters on my system. Setting it to medium improved it a lot.
Glad this worked out well for you. Happy flying my friend! And thank you for your support!
I have an ATI card. Yet, some of the tips in this video was very helpful. So, thumbs up for that. Because I don't care what GPU you have, this game has been the most challenging with graphics I've ever experienced! I build my own pc's and thought I was fine. I've NEVER had to buy a GPU that was close to a 1k. This game basically requires a car note payment on a graphics card or something to run it smoothly. Heh And I've been gaming since the Atari days!
Still, a video like this can alleviate a lot of issues with just simple setup. And I knew this but just couldn't find the right combo. I've never had to go a file to delete things to get the graphics to perform better. I mean, lot of crazy stuff just to play a sim! Regardless, yours has been the best I've seen (and I've watched a LOT) that gets rid of the jitters!
THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!
Thank you for sharing your experience. I am glad this has worked out well for you. Happy flying!
The ALT F3 key was great my monitor was impossible to set the brightness even when i went into the Nivida settings. For some reason this worked very well.
Glad this was helpful.
Thank you! With same FPS as before, now no stutters with my 2080ti!
Thanks for the video. You turned on anisotropic filtering in the Nvidia control panel, and kept it on in fs too?
I tried for years any settings and tutorials that was out there on internet and with no success, I own 3090 and was furious how I can’t fly it smoothly but after this I can confirm this one is the one, thank you very much
Glad this worked out for you. Thanks for sharing your experience and for watching the video.
You said you use this with your M1 iPad Pro, I have the 12.9 M1 and want to pair this with that so I can cast the iPad onto a 77 inch TV using game pass Microsoft flight simulator …is that possible?
This was extremely helpful! What a huge difference these settings made. Thank you!
Would be very interesting to see, how many FPS you get with the Fenix, FSLTL and without frame generation in the exact same situation.
yes Fenix is the worst in my case
Without frame generation it is half the frames.
If you look at his setting which he shows you in the video, he is using TAA and not frme generation.
@@timrashleigh2984 If you look at his setting which he shows you in the video, he is using TAA AND frame generation.
@@timrashleigh2984 he is using TAA and frame generation, exactly the same as I use with my 4090. If I switch frame generation off, the fps halves
Im on VR with a HP G2 and these tips definitely helped. Thank you.
Hi, I watch a lot of your videos and this latest one has really sorted things out for me. I do not use the nvidia filters but everything else has really improved things for me. I never really got bad performance but there was always something niggling in the background as I always fly in VR, in particular when turning the nosewheel the scenery always had that slight lag. These fixes have cured them so I would really like to thank you for posting this latest one up...Thanks Q8 pilot
Thank you for watching and for sharing your experience.
Thanks for sharing this Q8 and I'm also seeing the same performance increase on my own RTX3070 rig. After following your guide.
I also recently found out MSFS2020 was running beyond my PC 16Gb ram, and now I upgraded to a 32GB ram. Plus, I ws running MSFS2020 on a partiitioned 2TB HDD. Now in Jan 23 , you can now get av1TB NVME and SATA SSD for less that £80, I about a SSD and moved MSFS2020 on to it, to also give me a increase in performance and no more micro-stutters. Again, I suggest installing 32GB DDR memory or more to your rig. As well as moving or reinstalling MSFS 2020 on to a SSD, also helps a lot.
i was skeptical because ive never had much luck with improving stutters, but hopeful since it was q8 supplying the knowledge. it really did help quite a bit. i'm running a 3090 and 10850k (my bottleneck) and my stutters have seriously drastically reduced. i can enoy the a310 stutter free finally!
That intro is on another level!! Love it
Thanks, I am glad you liked it.
1 question why not turn off the shader cache after you delete it? Why would you set to unlimited if the shader is what is causing stutters?
It is not the shader files that cause stutters, sometime corrupt shaders can cause stutters.
@Q8Pilot right so wouldn't it be beneficial to turn off the cache so you don't build up or create more corrupt cache files? I'm not arguing I'm just logically thinking about this sorry if I come across poorly.
@@ClinchRiverHomestead This will mean longer wait times as shader will be recreated every time you load your sim.
nvidia dlss frame gen crashes when i turn on nvidia filters, may i ask what nvidia driver you use?
This is a known issue in recent drivers. Hopefully will be addressed is future driver updates.
@@Q8Pilot thanks for the reply but what driver version are you using?
Thank you so much for these tips, I fly in VR and these tips have certainly improved my fps and smoothness in VR.
Glad this has helped. Happy flying!
This definitely worked for me!
I had to remove SimFX for extra frames but deleting the cache itself gave me at least 15 frames plus reduced stutters at landing.
Thanks for the tutorial!
Note : I have a Ryzen 7 5800X, RTX 3070, and a 32GB RAM. Had 25fps with massive stutters in PMDG 737 before but now I have 40fps with little stutters.
Enjoy!
Can you explain why forcing anisotropic filtering in the control panel is better than just switching it on in MSFS?
It provides much sharper ground textures. Try it out.
In the video u sed to set filtering to 16x in the nvidia settings and to set it off in msfs but u have it set to 16x in the sim.
Thanks for the help man! This worked for me! I have a slower cpu in comparison to other cpus (xeon e5-2660 v4) and your tips worked !!
Setting "unlimited"....not sure, but will the drive (c) then fill up very quickly? Is 10gb not enogh? =)
I always find Sharpen+ to be a better filter. Regular Sharpen looks to be an old method of sharpening.
Thanks for sharing this information
Wow! I tried this for X-plane 12 and did it improve my frame rate? No. Did it reduce my stutters? Not half!!!!! What a fantastic improvement. Thank you Q8Pilot for a brilliant bit of advice. Love your channel. Please never stop :-)
As mentioned in the video, these tips will not work for everyone. They have worked for many including myself. If it didn't work for you that's fine, but at least I have made an attempt to better your experience. Thanks for watching.
@Q8Pilot the reduction in stutters is great! "Not half" is an expression in English (possibly just in the UK - so a poor choice of words by myself) to say basically a "huge amount". It would seem that these settings don't alter frame rates themselves in x-plane 12 (at least in my case) but instead makes the fluctuation of them far less of an issue making the experience much better. Thanks again!
Love it. Another video claiming to get rid of stutters with very clear and obvious micro stutters and uneven frame timing all over the place. Its baked into msfs, folks. Sure you can get rid of hideous pauses and bad stuttering and poor fps using expensive hardware and some good settings. But the micro stutters when loading in scenery arent going anywhere. In VR they are VERY noticable, and to a trained eye they are all over this 2d video too.
Great video thank you Q8Pilot :) Recent changes to the NVidia installs have changed the location of the shader cache files which your channel viewers might like to know about.
Thanks a million. Yes I need to pin a comment and update the video. Thanks for the heads-up.
Hi Guys, please can someone confirm where the shader cache files have changed too?? Many thanks 😉
Excellent video - thanks. Every time I apply the game filter, it resets when the sim is re started. Does anyone know how to make the game filter settings persist?
Funny!! Im always late to the party on these fixes. Then when i do stumble on them, im not home to try out!! 😂
What software are you using for measuring the FPS in MSFS?
What software are you using for measuring the FPS in MSFS?
These tips definitely helped me, thanks Q8Pilot! My system 4k, I9 cpu, 64g ram and RTX 4090..all running on SSD's Smooth as butter on ultra with your settings..cheers again.
Glad it worked out well for you. Happy flying my friend!
I wish i saw this video months ago!!! Thank you so much!!
Q8 Pilot,
First and foremost, thank you for helping us with your advice.
Results) To answer your most basic question, yes I think the stuttering improved and was almost fluid-though not quite as fluid as yours-to start off at KLAX with the A310. As I landed at Palm Springs Intl., I saw a few more stutters, maybe some artifacts in my medium-grade computer, picked up along the way.
However, with issue to other things like lighting, color, etc. the image seemed less sharp & defined, and the color more washed out. While I was trying to follow your instructions as you gave them, I’ll note a few issues I came across, and number them down below:
1) I noticed my FPS at LAX was in the high-20’s, whereas I believe beforehand I was hovering in the high-30’s to low-40’s.
2) DISREGARD... other people asked about files being left over, so I don't need to ask it again.
3) Game Filter Settings (Alt +F3) won’t work. It says “A Supported Game is Required to Use This Feature”. I don’t know. I thought you said that the game had to be turned off before following your steps-which is what I did. I wonder if it wanted me to open the game? Well, either way, I couldn’t do anything you said to do in this section because of this. Again, why do you think it was displaying this message?
4) My NVIDIA “dashboard” (I don’t know what else to call the control panel), only recognizes my MSFS “game”, as “Game of the Year”. It doesn’t say it’s the “40th Anniversary Edition”. Why and is this a problem? It almost seems as though NVIDIA doesn’t recognize the latest version of the game, and I find that to be troublesome. And I say this because I don’t know if it’s actually making the necessary adjustments, if it doesn’t even know if it’s the right game. What are your thoughts on this?
5) My Graphics Settings in the Simulator doesn’t show the line, “NVIDIA DLSS Frame Generation”, like yours did in your tutorial. I run an NVIDIA card, why do you think it won’t display this line on my Graphics Menu?
6) A lot of what you set to ULTRA in your GRAPHICS menu, I set to MEDIUM, only because I don’t think my 2019 mid-grade computer, is as good as yours. Even still though, some of my results were a little on the lack-luster side for me.
In conclusion, I appreciate the hard work you did to help the community. I’m just possibly in that small percentage of people, who your suggestions didn’t quite help the way I was hoping they would. But it did help the stuttering for a little bit-at least leaving KLAX. However, as I said earlier, on the Palm Springs arrival, they seemed to increase, and the FPS was actually lower upon completion of your steps.
Maybe I’ll reset the GRAPHICS values back to the way I had them and that may help.
Thank you again. 😇
What GPU are you using?
@@OCX600RR GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 (3GB)
CPU: Intel Core i7-8700 @3.2GHz 6-core
Hope this helps explain some things. This was probably medium grade by 2019 standards, and now I'm guessing quite a bit of things surpass it.
@@B3burner 1060 doesn't support DLSS unfortunately. And frame generation only works with the newest RTX 4xxx cards.
@@OCX600RR Thank you for answering my question #5. At least that explains it. Maybe time for an upgrade. :/
came from @twotonemurphy's stream! tips helped with the stutters for sure! Thanks much!!
Hi Q8 Piltot!! One of the best piece of advice ever! It really changed how my sim performs…. Just a question regarding cache … both Nvidia shade cache and MSFS Rolling cache… which is your recommendation for deleting them? Every once in a while?? After every sim session? Thank you so much!!!
Glad this was helpful. I recommend deleting them every time you experience stuttering. Also good idea to perform this after either an Nvidia driver update or sim update. Happy flying!
@@Q8Pilot Perfectly noted! Have a nice week!!
Thanks bud, this has made a massive difference on my 3080/G2 Ryzen cpu in VR, instant subscription!
Welcome to the channel. Glad this helped. Thank you for sharing your experience.
My MSFS is installed via Steam. In the NVIDIA Control Panel "Program Settings" I have no listing for Microsoft Flight Simulator unless I uncheck the "Show only programs found on this computer" checkbox then there are a few listed. Do I need to add it or is it using the "Steam" settings?
I tried this out tonight with my RTX2060 Super and used all your settings. I was amazed. All my settings are now on Ultra and the only setting I had to change was Texture Level of Detail from 400 to 300. Frame rate is 30 fps but no stutters. I have just completed an approach and landing in the Citation CJ4 with no slow down or memory issues and using Direct X 12.
May I ask why you are using 300 with a 2060super. Even my 4070 can't handle 300. 200 creates stutter in some places. Worse case scenario you'll max out your vram.
Some files in the DXCache may not be possible to delete because some apps are using them, although I don’t have any game running. FancyZones, Windows Explorer or other apps may use them.
That's ok as long as MSFS is not running.
my fps is usually more than fine when looking forward but it regularly drops by 50-60% when panning camera. i’ll try those suggestions. i’m desperately hoping they help!
Works 200%!!! Congratulations afor another great tip!! Smooth as never been before! Thanks!!
Glad this worked out well for you. Happy flying my friend!
I would appreciate if you could share a similar video for x plane 12 please? Or are the settings you described ideal for this usage scenario also?
Yes, you can use this exactly for X-Plane 12.
Thank you for the tips. What software do you use to show the frames per second in the top left corner of the screen?
Do you think that the Nvidia 4090 is a huge improvement over its predecessor?
Best regards
Medaht
FPSMonitor for FPS. 4090 is the best card in market today.
Hi Q8! Question though, what does selecting the "shader cache size" to unlimited do to the system? Will it eat up a lot of storage over time?
It means precompiled shaders from games will never be automatically deleted, if you play many games it will eat up storage over time. It only prevents stutters that happen the first time a game needs to use a shader after loading. Don't set it to unlimited that's very wasteful if you're worried about it increase to 5GB or 10GB.
@@c0dexus Thanks Marc! Really glad you answered the question. Thanks again!
You can disable shader cache from that tab.
Thank you Q8! I also set MFS to "priority" via Task menu and that helps as well.
Thanks for watching, yes, this can help on lower to mid range machines.
+ msi utility and give gpu HIGH priorization.
What are your cockpit camera settings ? (zoom/horizontal/height)
The thing is, when you went to external view and panned the camera it went much lower FPS, so this isn’t smooth, if you didn’t have such high FPS due to hardware you would notice those as big stutters. So I don’t think those settings have increased smoothness. The FPS drops are still there, but because your baseline FPS is high because of hardware, they are kind of masked.
Try the settings then comment. Or read what others have reported.
wooow this actually worked butter smooth thanks man i appreciate it im running rtx 4080 32 gb ram 4000hz ryzen 95900x samsung odyssey 49 inch 4k ultrawide and it actually made my game so smooth thanks !!!!
Glad this helped. Enjoy!
Great video mate. Whats the app you are using to monitor temps, fps etc??
FPSMonitor
Hi Q8Pilot. 2 months ago my MSFS was running like butter after I applied and followed your recommendations on the video. After the latest MSFS update my system became all jittery and stuttery again. I rewatched the video and flushed the NVIDIA cache, all the other settings are still active as per your recommendation. Do you have any additional tips that may be necessary to implement to get that buttery flight sim experience once again?
@Q8Pilot you say to enable anisotropic filtering in the NVCP and turn it off in sim. Why are you still using 16x in sim then?
This was left over from a previous test. You can turn it off in the sim.
@@Q8Pilot thank you
Wow, it worked wonderfully. Thanks, subbed!
Also many thanks for this video. I think that these settings mainly refer to the GPU performance, right? I am massively "limited by main thread" although I have upgraded to a 7800X3D and a RTX 4080. Even in 1440p I am experiencing these very low FPS and frame times between 20 and 30 ms for my CPU.
But playing with the settings I am starting to realize that 7800X3D and RTX 4080 is not meant for 4k Ultra but 4k High End :)
Thanks for the tips. Hope you can also explain what each setting does as well as the pros and cons of changing those settings. Nevertheless, great tips.
Great vid, just a question: For the Nvidia Game Filter, I can't get the pourcentages precisely as you have them in the vid, for example it would go from 0% to 11% instantly without the possibility of being under 11%. Any idea for why is that ?
That's ok, it depends on mouse sensitivity I suppose.
That 737 looks so real flying over L.A...
There were some slight stutters happening up close under the left wing but the rest looked great! Someday, a few years from now, hopefully stutters will be a thing of the past and we can fly at 120 fps. We are so close! Maybe the 5 series cards and new CPUs will get there? It would be so great if Intel were to integrate the memory into their chips, like the Apple M1, M2 chips do.
Dang you have good eyes! 😄
In my opinion it is not that much about graphics card but it is about optimization. It is not acceptable that you develop a game where CPU and GPU are used only 30% meanwhile the RAM is exploding.
2:42 Iget a message that some of the files are used in other programs.
That's ok.
DX Cache can't be deleted completely because some files are connected to the Windows Explorer. A message appears saying that this file can therefore not be deleted.
It's ok
Can someone tell me the overlay in the left corner showing stats?
FPSMonitor
@@Q8Pilot Thanks!
What hardware and frame-rate monitor are you using? I like it better than all the others I've seen.
I am using FPSMonitor.
Thank you Q8 for this one! I am in the process of doing what you say. But I'm unable to delete all the files in DXCache and GLCache? The system reports that they are opened and cannot be removed!?
That's ok as long as MSFS is not running, you are good to go.
Thank you Q8! Just improved my msfs2020 performance, much thanks!
Glad this helped! Thanks for sharing and watching the video.
Hi in your intro did you say MSFS Sim SHOULD NOT BE RUNNING when you make the changes you describe. Any help appreciated
I am also not clear on this. Should the sim be running or not?
Hey mate.. Do you recommend the ones with a 4000 series card to use DX12 TAA and Frame generation on? or stick to DX11 and TAA?
I highly recommend DX12 TAA and Frame generation on.
@@Q8Pilot Do you recommend capping the FPS on the NVCP or leave it off? I have a 4070ti Ryzen 7 5800x 32GB Ram etc.. Thanks once again
@GingerNinja I think it is best you test this out. Some folks really benefit from capping FPS, some don't.
Would be so kind to indicate which nvidia driver version you have installed. I have 4090 but huge problem to use dlss in any version. Pop up panel instrument dramatically affect fps in negative way and monitors start to flash. I’m becoming crazy
I have and always have the latest nvidia drivers.
Great instructions! Thank you very much.
What settings do you use on your monitor? What are your G-Sync settings in Nvidia Control Panel?
Enable gsync for windowed and non windowed screen.
@Q8Pilot One other thing, when you set Anisotropic Filtering to 16X in NCP, you said to turn it off in game. However in game, your Anisotropic Filtering was set to 16X. How should it be set?
Might Be getting a little more fps, like 5 maybe but im still getting stutters will moving the camera!
Thanks for all your helpful videos.
Are thgese Performance Tips still relevant for the latest MSFS updates ? (18th Aug 23)..
Yes still very relevant.
Thanks for the response... appreciated
Maybe it could be interesting to do a script on the desktop who will automate the deletion process.
So i did this, and I started getting much more stutters and lag than usual...
Qpilot, what zoom ( FOV) are you using? Also have you changed your Initial zoom in camera cfg. I remember the correct setting was 1.0 not the default 0.70. Have u changed any of it? Because we had to in fsx and p3d.
can't delete the dxcache files because pc says that this files are open ion nviadia share and if i close it, it reopen automatically
My Nividia folder is empty? any clues?
Do these settings apply for both DX11 and DX12 options in FS2020? And must you use the DLSS option too for this?
Great show but I don't see rhe DXCahe folder,I only the GLCache folder and the NvBackend folder , do I delete anything in the NvBackend folder
nVidia has moved the DXCache folder here \AppData\LocalLow\NVIDIA\PerDriverVersion
top video , i just make your 5 suggestion and will try tomorrow
Which performance software do you utilize inside the video , i dislike those of FS2020 developper, is it settable (can select control check)
says thank again to you for your shared out job to simmers community
It works very fine ! also in an old and low performing pc it delete completely every stutters.... Many many thanks Sir ;)
Glad this worked out well for you. Happy flying and thanks for watching!
Worked wonders for me mate. Thank you!
Most welcome glad it helped.
Why setting Shader Cache in GLOBAL instead under MSFS profile in nVidia Control Panel? Also, do we need to delete the cache every day or only after driver updates?
This option is only available globally. You need to delete only after driver updates or sim update.
Hi, mine won‘t let me delete the cache content completely, as it states the files are in use?!? (WIN 11), do you have any workaround at hand? please
@@clipper747pa2 same here.
@@Q8Pilot Problem is this file might get huge!
I have a few things to say
1. Do not use dx12 if you need fps. its experimental and can really impact your fps
2. I wish the title of this video specified for Nvidia drivers only considering i have AMD drivers.
Without DX12 you can't have frame generation.
dx11 really helps my pc run msfs better@@Q8Pilot
The first and only real Game Changer tweak that really works for both MSFS and X-Plane 11/12
Thank you for sharing your experience. Happy flying!
To Hags or NOT to Hags with at 3060Ti? (seems to give me stutters, which also reflex does).
Is it necessary to periodically go back and delete those NVIDIA caches again? Thanks for the video. I have an older machine with a 1080 card but it still helped.
I am glad this has helped. You only need to delete with a driver or sim update.
Yep, it worked! Even on my (almost) potato pc. Thanks mate!
Thank you so much my screen now is liquid smooth what should I do with these 2 current settings in my flight simulator NVIDIA REFLEX LOW LATENCY is on, and AMD FIDELITY FX SHARPENING IS 160 .... I have a RTX asus 3090 high end computer thank you so much again.
Great tips, please can I ask which programme are you using for the FPS counter with the CPU and GPU useage stats on show as well, I would love to have that on my PC to see where the bottlenecks are!
Thanks for watching! I use FPSMonitor.
Ok this is the last AMD Video card. Nvidia does way more, and is more controllable. Tried this anisotropic filter. But when set in AMD control panel scenery stays blurry. However you have a mighty system, and run msfs2020 how it should be!
I would STRONGLY advise people to not have "prefer maximum performance on" (especially in global). It doesn;t make a noticable difference but it will significantly add to your electricity bills (as your GPU will be running at full clock speeds all the time).